19 Jan 2017 22:32:27
Using cases and Needs:
- Evans, Cunningham, Barea
> Towns, Belijca/ Dieng, Wiggins, Evans/ LaVine, Dunn/ Barea
- Aldrich, Powell, Curry, 2 x 1st 2017 (Mavs, Pelicans)
> Reed, Powell, Winslow, Waiters, Curry + 2 top 20 rookies
- Whitesite, Jones, Babbit, Richardson, Holiday
> Whiteside, Nowitzki/ Jones, Barnes, Wes, Holiday/ DWil
- Bogut, Muhammed, Anderson, Rubio
> Bogut, Davis, Hill, Hield, Rubio
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19 Jan 2017 22:32:27
19 Jan 2017 20:28:31
PHI: J Clarkson and 1-3 protection removed from '17 Laker's pick
LAL: E Illyasova, N Noel, R Covington
PHI gets a young very good combo guard locked up for a decent price for 4 years. He can be effective off the ball when Simmons runs point. They clear their big man log jam and get out of having to offer/ match a large offer for Noel next offseason. They also guarantee the Laker's pick conveys this year in a very solid and deep draft.
PG: Clarkson/ Bayless
SG: Stauskus/ Henderson
SF: Simmons/ Jackson or Tatum ('17 lakers pick)
PF: Saric/ Holmes
C: Embiid/ Okafor
LAL: Get two young defensive players to help improve their team defense and can still grow with their young core (Illyasova is expiring and there to match salaries) . They have to get rid of one of their better players to do so, but they take another step forward
PG: Russell/ Williams/ Huertas
SG: Ingram/ Young
SF: Deng/ Covington
PF: Randle/ Nance Jr/ Black
C: Noel/ Mozgov/ Zubac
19 Jan 2017 21:25:10
Awful for Lakers. Don't think they'd do just Clarkson for it let alone completely relinquish the laker pick. Noel has very little value and Lakers have less cap space than 76ers and less likely to be willing to pay Noel. For something like this to work I think 76ers would have to be willing to take Deng or Mozgov's contract. In theory he could be a good (and very expensive) mentor to Simmons.
19 Jan 2017 23:18:52
The Laker's pick as of right now is likely out of the top 3 so they wouldn't get the pick anyway. Even if they get a top 3 pick, all the best prospects are PGs or SFs. Are we committed to Russel and Ingram at those positions for the future or are we going to constantly draft a new prospect and never finish developing them before we get a replacement rookie that needs 5 years to develop?
Noel has value as a starting center. He's athletic and can anchor a defense. He can crash the boards and set screens trying to get Randle, Ingram, or Russell open for shots. He's young and can grow and develop with the others in this young core. He's an upgrade from Mozgov right now and will likely get better with the coaching staff there and more playing time.
19 Jan 2017 20:21:52
BOS / ATL / NYK
BOS gets Millsap
ATL gets Johnson, Jerebko, 2019 LAC pick, and 2019 MEM pick
19 Jan 2017 21:37:19
I think Boston need to make a move and Millsap is an all-star caliber player so it wouldn't be a bad one but I think Hawks would want more. Maybe 2018 Boston Pick instead of others ones since its a bit closer and I believe both Memphis and LA picks are lottery protected so not only are they a while off but have little upside.
19 Jan 2017 23:06:02
I don't see this trade happening for a couple of reasons.
1. C's want to use Horford at the 4 position and if they have Millsap they would have to use Al at center because they just traded Johnson.
2. That's way to much for a rental because Millsap has an opt out after this year which I'm sure he'll take for a much bigger payday.
19 Jan 2017 19:51:14
Philly / NO / ATL
Philly gets Holiday and Prince
NO gets Howard, Rodriguez, and Philly 2017 2nd
ATL gets Okafor, Evans, Moore and Philly 2017 1st
Philly gets more balanced by clearing the log jam of centers and gets the combo guard they need to continue a playoff push, especially with Simmons coming back post all-star break (fingers crossed)
NO gets an elite center to protect the fragile Davis and gets value for two guards they would have lost to free agency anyways
ATL would be least reluctant to do this, but if they begin to realize this is not a championship roster then they may sell off Howard, Millsap, and Dunleavy to build around schroder
19 Jan 2017 21:49:06
Why in the world would Philly give up their 2017 1st for Holiday who is an unrestricted FA this summer (they have plenty of cap space to get him there if he wanted to return) and Prince who hasn't shown much thus far and is older rookie that is already 22.
I guess you didn't mean to write philly 1st since although Howard has been playing well I'm sure the Hawks would move him for a top 5 pick, Okafor and not taking back much salary. They have been complementing hitting reset and I think this offer would make them do it (They could deal Millsap too) .
19 Jan 2017 18:53:11
Pelicans get: CJ McCollum, Meyers Leonard
Nuggets get: Tyreke Evans, Alexis Ajinca
Trailblazers get: Jrue Holiday, Terrence JOnes, Cheick Diallo, Nuggets 2nd Round pick
--Pelicans may have to throw in a pick to the trailblazers. However, Jrue Holiday solves the Blazers backcourt defense. McCollum is way ebtter when he is the star guard. Has some James Harden in him?
19 Jan 2017 19:07:09
Contract situation alone makes Portland never consider this. I'm not trading an undersized guard averaging 22 ppg and shooting 43% from 3 that's locked in for 5 years for an undersized guard averaging 14 ppg and 37% from deep that's an expiring deal.
Jrue is an ok defender, but probably falls off a cliff if you move him to SG.
19 Jan 2017 19:14:42
McCollum is way more valuable than that. Pelicans would have to include their first unprotected to start the convo but I'm not sure that is enough especially with Holiday about to be a FA.
19 Jan 2017 18:37:52
NYK - CLE - DAL
NYK get: Andrew Bogut (exp), Iman Shumpert, and DAL 1st DP 2017
CLE get: Carmelo Anthony and Deron Williams
pg. Irving/ Williams
sg. Korver/ Smith
DAL get: Tristan Thompson and Richard Jefferson
19 Jan 2017 18:51:37
Dallas won't trade 2017 1st for that which is likely going to be top 5
19 Jan 2017 19:15:59
Ya Dallas is too bad to be dealing their first for that nor will Melo get them a pick close to that value.
19 Jan 2017 19:50:40
Terrible. Dallas gives up their first for thristan Thompson. Ha!
19 Jan 2017 22:31:16
Why does every Melo to Cavs deal see Thompson going out the door and no center coming back in.
Unless the Cavs can get a center as part of a Melo trade, they are not going to move the only one they have. Melo at the four and Love at the five would be just brutal.
19 Jan 2017 16:17:40
Knicks trade Melo, OQuinn and Justin Holliday
Clippers trade Deandre Jordan and either Jamal Crawford or JJ Reddick
19 Jan 2017 18:09:14
How does melo help the Clippers more then deandre Jordan?
19 Jan 2017 18:21:03
Clippers aren't giving up DJ, CP3, or Blake to get Melo. It would be Austin Rivers & Jamal Crawford + filler.
19 Jan 2017 15:54:22
Thunder get Jeff Green
Magic get 2017 okc 1st and Kyle Singlers bad contract
U might say that green isn't worth a 1st but he is when the absorb Singlers contract too
19 Jan 2017 16:40:05
Salary doesn't work and AGAIN, OKC can't TRADE THEIR 2017 1st UNLESS ITS ON DRAFT DAY
19 Jan 2017 17:53:57
Rudy Gay's injury is bad news for the Thunder. I think they could still use an upgrade at sf. I'd like to see them go after Chandler or even Gallinari on the Nuggets first (Although with Nuggets in playoff contention not sure how available they are now) . I'd probably have a few others higher on the list of sf to get than Jeff Green. However, I don't think he is the worst guy to get I think they should get a second or something back cause he is an expiring contract too.
19 Jan 2017 15:12:46
ORL- Rudy Gay
SAC- Gordon Dragic, Derrick Williams
MIA- Elfrid Peyton, Ben Mclamore, Jeff Green, 2018 ORL 1st (top 10 protected), 2018 SAC 1st (top 5 protected)
19 Jan 2017 15:39:56
Dragic is not worth 2 firsts, and you can't trade away back to back 1st round picks (PHI owns SAC 2019 1st) .
19 Jan 2017 16:03:45
Gay is hurt, he's not going anywhere.
19 Jan 2017 15:12:38
Cle: C Anthony+ O'Quin+ swap option 2017 pick
NY: K Love
19 Jan 2017 15:22:51
I don't think cavs get rid of love for melo. Maybe before the season but not now. And the pick is useless for the win now cavs. Sorry. Hate this deal for the cavs.
19 Jan 2017 16:28:54
@TheGrib, but you hate Melo
He's still a good player.
He woul make that team better. O'quin is better than C Anderson, so he's a good replacement for him. And that draft pick gives them a future asset
19 Jan 2017 17:06:53
Sorry, but the only way Anthony makes a team better is by him leaving it.
19 Jan 2017 18:21:50
I do hate Melos game. But I don't consider him a bad player. I see him as an okay player who ball hogs and has a bad contract and a body that's only getting older. I told everyone you should of traded him the offseason. tanked a year and got a star to go with prozingus. Now you stuck in mediocrity and Melos value has dropped signifgantly again after the hopes of a playoff birth slowly fade away again for another team MELO is on. HIS REPUATION HAS RECIEVED A BLOW AGAIN. I don't see him adding any value to the cavs that Kevin love doesn't already add in a much more complacent role.
Only way I add melo if I'm the Cavs is if I don't give away kyrie lebron or love.
That leave shumpert and jr smith and Tristan Thompson as the cav best assets. That's the max I'd go for melo.
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