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26 Mar 2017 23:40:03
Lakers offseason if their pick falls to #3 and want a quick fix.

Lakers get: Paul George
Pacers get: Jordan Clarkson, Corey Brewer, #3 Pick.

Lakers do it because Fultz and Ball are off the board, and the other players left won't appeal to them at that pick. Clarkson doesn't look like he'll get too much better. Pacers do it because Tatum and Jackson will still be left at the #3 pick as a replacement to George. With that, they also get capable players in JC and Brewer.

Draft Jawun Evans at the 28.

Let Black, MWP and Ennis walk. Resign T-Rob to a veteran's minimum.

Sign Mills at 10 mil a season, Roberson for 5 million a season.

That has the lineup looking like

PG: Russell/Mills/Evans
SG: George/Roberson/Nwaba
SF: Ingram/Young/Deng
PF: Randle/Nance/T-Rob
C: Zubac/Mozgov

Then at some point during season, if Phil Jackson is still desperate to get rid of Carmelo, LA could try to make a move. It is a gamble worth taking because there's only one guaranteed year left on his contract. If it doesn't work both move on the following summer.

Lakers get: Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get: Julius Randle, Luol Deng, 2018 2nd round pick

PG: Russell/Mills/Evans
SG: George/Roberson/Nwaba
SF: Ingram/Young
PF: Melo/Nance/T-Rob
C: Zubac/Mozgov

The Lakers would be a little shallow at SF, but PG13, Melo, and Roberson could play some minutes there. With that roster, the Lakers are pretty much guaranteed the Playoffs that season, and if the Melo deal doesn't work out for the best, he can be let walk, and you'll have the finances to push for another star at the 4 or 5 the next offseason.

Thoughts?

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26 Mar 2017 17:56:59
Okc gets Dwyane Wade

Bulls get Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler, and both of OKC 2017 2nd rd picks

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26 Mar 2017 21:15:21
If I'm the Bulls I rather just have Wade for another season then be done with his contract (hopefully he just declines his player option) . Kanter isn't enough help to dramatically change Bulls outlook so I'd rather have the cap space to go after someone better.

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26 Mar 2017 17:45:46
Thunder get Otto Porter s&t and Jason Smith

Wizards get Steven Adams and Andre Roberson

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26 Mar 2017 21:18:03
Don't think it makes much sense for either side. Wizards have Gortat and Mahinmi already and Thunder are thin behind Adams at center (I'd also argue Adams is better due to his longer track record of being a good performer especially in the playoffs) .

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26 Mar 2017 14:48:46
Thunder get Paul George

Pacers get Steven Adams, Domatas Sabonis, Andre Roberson, and 2017 1st

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26 Mar 2017 17:14:29
Okc cannot trade their 2017 #1 because they alteady traded their 2018 #1 to utah, cannot trade consecutive #1 picks. Plus a don't think Pacers would want to take on Adams huge contract in a rebuild mode.

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26 Mar 2017 17:41:27
It would be a draft day trade after they had selected for Indiana. Duh.

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26 Mar 2017 17:58:03
I still think we can get a better deal for PG13
And i'm not sure PG would stay in OKC.

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26 Mar 2017 20:46:05
Tell that to the Nets.

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26 Mar 2017 22:39:34
It's still a terrible offer. That's about what got you Ibaka. Duh.

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26 Mar 2017 06:27:45
Detroit get: BKN 2018 pick, MEM pick, Jaylen Brown and a 2020 second

Celtcs get: Andre Drummond and 2018 2nd rounder

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26 Mar 2017 06:51:39
BOS would never do this.

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26 Mar 2017 16:23:04
Boston would be tempted, but don't think they would include Brown, maybe Rozier. They have to do something because their bigs will be let go this summer.

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26 Mar 2017 00:29:41
76ers offseason

1. 76ers/Pacers
IF the Laker pick conveys this year at #4.....
Sixers get: Paul George

Pacers get: 2017 Laker pick #4, sixers 2018 unprotected #1, Kings 2019 unprotected #1, Covington.

Pacers get #4 pick in this years loaded draft and 2 more unprotected #1 picks in next two drafts. Plus a very good wing defender in Covington.

2. 76ers/Nets

Sixers get:celtics 2017 #1 via nets(currently #25).

Nets get:Okafor, pick #36, pick #40(earliest of sixers 4 second rounders in2017 draft).
Allows the Nets to have an option at center if the deal Lopez for needed talent.

2. Sign jj redick 3yrs/60mill, 3rd year team option.

3. Draft Monk in the 5-7 range.

4. Draft Swanigan at #25.

5. Let Rodriguez and Stauskas walk.

Pg:Simmons, Bayless, McConnell
Sg:Redick, Monk, Henderson
Sf:George, Anderson, Luwawa-Cab
Pf:Saric, Swanigan, Long
C: Embiid, Holmes, Splitter

This team has its young superstar in George, 2 up and coming stars in Embiid and Simmons, a veteran sharpshooter in Redick, and a solid 4th or even 5th option in Saric. Monk is only 19, Korkmaz is 19 developing another year in europe. And George is only 26. Was rumored the sixers talked to the pacers at the deadline about a possible George trade, maybe a revisit and a better offer could get it done.

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26 Mar 2017 05:46:25
That is way too much for George, mostly because he's most likely a rental. But those are also 3 very good picks. That SAC pick might be 1st pick of the draft.

The rest of it makes sense to me.

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26 Mar 2017 05:51:14
Interesting deals for 76ers. In the first trade I'd say its interesting offer for George who I'm not sure what the market for him is like with him in the final year of his contract and him seeming likely to test FA. Although the 76ers pick wouldn't likely be that great with addition of George I think two high level draft picks would make that offer competitive. Pacers could add Smith or Tatum with Turner and tank next few years to add talent with their own picks and other picks they've obtained.

If I'm the Nets I'd be all over the second trade; I think its selling a bit short on Okafor if I'm the 76ers. With Noel gone he should be able to improve his trade value in a more consistent role.

That final team is pretty solid and projects to be better than current Pacers team with significantly more upside. As long as Lakers don't make any extreme moves or land a top FA like Cousins or Westbrook I think that 76ers team would be enough to convince George to resign.

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26 Mar 2017 17:27:09
If this seems like an overpay for George (which imo it is not), would Pacers do Okafor, Covington, Lakers #1 this year (if it lands at #4) and Sixers unprotected #1 next year? Onviously as a sixer fan i would prefer this offer, I just don't think Pacers go for it.

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26 Mar 2017 18:00:42
I like this trade for Indy, this could lead to a fast rebuilt.
I also think PG13 would resign with that sixers team.

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25 Mar 2017 21:16:47
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts/get rid of boshs contract
re-sign waiters, reed, ellington, j johnson
draft day trade
magic : dragic,babbitt, heats 1st round pick
heat: payton, green
sign rudy gay and briante weber
payton/t johnson/weber
waiters/richardson/ellington
Winslow/green/mcgruder
gay/j johnson/white
whiteside//reed/haslem

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26 Mar 2017 08:36:08
Green expires this season so you couldn't do it unless you replace him with Biyombo lol.

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25 Mar 2017 19:52:03
I think The Twolves should ponder this:

Trade
1st pick in 2017
Shabazz
2018 Second

Bulls
Jimmy Butler

Improves both teams Bulls get a quicker rebuild and Twolves get a stabilizing Vet.

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25 Mar 2017 22:11:24
I think the bulls would ponder why twolves give such a weak offwr for Bulter. Then hang up.

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26 Mar 2017 03:47:48
I don't think that's enough for Butler.
Add LaVine and Bulls throw in their 17 1st rd.

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26 Mar 2017 03:44:28
Bulls could and should do better. I don't think Twolves would hesitate a second to do this trade.

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26 Mar 2017 09:06:31
Horrible for the Bulls. Shabazz isn't nowhere near the player that JB is, and he never will be close to his caliber. The MInny pick will likely fall around 6-8; the Bulls can find a better offer.

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26 Mar 2017 22:51:46
Why would the Bulls do this?

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25 Mar 2017 02:32:58
New York Knicks summer

Complete rebuild

Draft night
1st round pick Dennis Smith Jr
2nd round pick Monte Morris
2nd round pick Chris Boucher

Resign
Justin Holiday
Ron Baker
Miles Plumlee

Sign
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

Trade
Knicks recieve
2018 1st round pick from Timberwolves and Cavaliers
Channing Frye
Richard Jefferson

Cavaliers recieve
Carmelo Anthony

Timberwolves recieve
Iman Shumpert

Knicks waive Richard Jefferson

Then
Knicks recieve
TJ Warren

Suns recieve
Kyle O'Quinn
Courtney Lee
Cavaliers 2018 1st round pick

Roster for 2017/18 season
Pg Smith jr/ Randle/ Morris
Sg Caldwell-Pope/ Holiday/ Baker
Sf Warren/ Thomas/ Kuzminskas
Pf Porzingis/ Frye/ Boucher
C Hernangomez/ Noah/ Plumlee

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25 Mar 2017 06:04:31
KCP is a restricted FA and isn't going anywhere. I think Knicks should move Melo and i don't think Cavs could pass that up. Don't think Twolves would give up a first for Shumpert tho, it would have to be heavily protected. Suns aren't going to give up Warren that easily either. He is a solid part of their young core.

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25 Mar 2017 13:15:18
Minnesota's 2018 1st goes to Atlanta and they probably wouldn't give it up for Shumpert even if they could.

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25 Mar 2017 13:41:50
Neither Minnesota nor Cleveland can trade their 2018 1st round pick. Trade never could happen.

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26 Mar 2017 03:57:57
Top 6 pick = Shumpert? I don't think so.

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24 Mar 2017 21:56:41
Cavs Offseason

(* If Cavs do not repeat)

Trade:
- Kevin Love for Paul George
- Iman Shumpert and Cedi Osman for Will Barton

Cut: Jefferson, James Jones

Sign:
Deron Williams - Vet Min
Kyle Korver - Vet Min
Andrew Bogut - 1yr/5M
Derrick Williams - 1yr/5M
Larry Sanders - 1yr/2.5M
Eric Moreland - 2yrs/3M

PG: Kyrie, Deron Will, Felder
SG: Paul George, JR Smith, Liggins
SF: Lebron, Will Barton, Korver
PF: Thompson, Frye, Derrick Will
C: Bogut, Sanders, Moreland

Cavs add size, play big and regain a defensive identity. Get rid of Love and Shumpert's contract to give more cap flexibility. Cavs shoot the three less but rely more on the P&R. Barton gives scoring punch off the bench and deep rotation gives Lebron rest. Also, good chance of Paul George re-signing as playing with Kyrie and Lebron will be his best chance of winning championships

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24 Mar 2017 23:17:59
You won't get George for Love.

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24 Mar 2017 23:28:58
Revised trades:

- Kevin Love to Pacers for Paul George and Pacers 2017 1st
- Shumpert and rights to Cedi Osman for Will Barton and Denvers 2018 2nd.

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24 Mar 2017 23:32:33
@Supercollider: George for Love makes sense. George doesn't want to re-sign and Pacers do not a rebuild right now. Love is an all-star averaging 20 and 10, long term contract and only 28. Don't see a better option for Indiana if they want to trade George.

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25 Mar 2017 03:24:22
There are many better options. Like keep him.

Also. I love that the comment is you don't get George for love. So you go fine. George AND their first for love. Love is a third option. Proven not to be a first option. George is worlds better.

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25 Mar 2017 06:13:31
George for Love is interesting since I doubt Pacers would be able to get a better player in return and if George is true to his word he'd be on a contender and thus would resign in Cleveland. Love is clearly not the level player George is but he is still an all-star. Pacers are in jeopardy of losing him and with him saying he'd like to play for Lakers may scare off teams or at the least influence the strength of their offers. However even with George Pacers aren't that great so they'd probably be worse with Love so they are probably just better off if they deal George to get younger assets and rebuild around their only other good player Turner who is young.

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25 Mar 2017 06:14:25
@hamburger George is probably better, but has an expiring contract and does not want to re-sign. Pacers will look for the best trade value they can get for him.

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