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19 Mar 2018 01:32:00
If Lebron leaves and Cavs go in tank mode

Cavs trade pick 2 to Boston for pick 27,2018 2nd,2019 Kings pick,2019 Memphis pick,2021 celtics 1st,Georshon yabusuyle,Adel Nader

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19 Mar 2018 00:19:12
spurs fan here all we want is good for our team

if leonard don't extend his contract and go any where trade him this draft night or trade him in next season trade deadline

because on 2019 free agency lakers clippers 76ers and celtics is 4 teams likely to pursue leonard

i have list of trade package for lakers clippers 76ers and celtics

leonard to lakers
lakers receive kawhi leonard and derrick white
spurs receive brandon ingram, loul deng, josh hart and two future 1st round draft pick lottery protected maybe (2019,2020).

leonard to clippers
clippers receive kawhi leonard and pau gasol
spurs receive tobias harris sam dekker and deandre jordan and 2018 detroit pistons 1st round draft pick top 14 lottery protected.

leonard to 76ers
76ers receive kawhi leonard and derrick white
spurs receive markelle fultz, dario saric, tj mcconnel, jerryd bayless justin anderson and 2018 los angeles lakers 1st round draft pick lottery protected

leonard to celtics
trade proposal #1
celtics receive kawhi leonard
spurs receive gordon hayward

trade proposal #2
celtics receive kawhi leonard and derrick white
spurs receive jaylen brown or jayson tatum or maybe both brown and tayum

*if both add Guerschon Yabusele and semi ojeyele and 2019 sacramento kings 1st round draft pick lottery protected and 2019 memphis grizzlies 1st round draft pick lottery protected
*if brown or tatum add add Guerschon Yabusele and marcus morris and 2018 boston celtics 1st round pick
2019 sacramento kings 1st round draft pick lottery protected and 2019 memphis grizzlies 1st round draft pick lottery protected

spurs roster 2018- 2019 after leonard trade

leonard to lakers
spurs LU
pg murray, mills, parker
sg green, hart, ginobili, forbes
sf ingram, anderson, paul
pf aldrigde, gay
c gasol, bertans, lauvergne

resign parker forbes anderson and bertans
waive or buyoff deng contract

leonard to clippers
spurs LU
pg murrray, mills, parker
sg green, walker, ginobili, forbes
sf harris, anderson, paul
pf aldrigde, gay, dekker
c jordan, bertans, lauvergne

resign all spurs FA
draft lonnie walker(via piston pick)

leonard to 76ers
spurs LU
pg murray, mills , parker, mcconnel
sg green, fultz , ginobili, forbes
sf anderson, knox , paul
pf aldrigde, saric, gay
c gasol, bertans. lauvergne

resign all spurs FA
waive justin anderson and jerryd bayless
draft kevin knox (via lakers 1st pick)

leonard to celtics
spurs LU #1
pg murray, mills, parker, white
sg green, ginobili, forbes, paul
sf hayward, anderson
pf aldrigde gay
c gasol bertans lauvergne

spurs LU #2
pg murray, mills, parker
sg brown, green, ginobili, forbes
sf anderson, gay, paul
pf aldrigde, morris, yabusele
c gasol, bertans, lauvergne, mccoy

pg murray, mills, parker
sg green, ginobili, forbes, paul
sf tatum, anderson, gay
pf aldrigde, morris, yabusele
c gasol, bertans, lauvergne, mccoy

both tatum and brown
pg murray, mills, parker
sg brown, green, ginobili, forbes
sf tatum, anderson, paul, ojeyele
pf aldrigde, gay, yabusele
c gasol bertans lauvergne

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19 Mar 2018 10:24:36
I like Leonard going to the Celtics for the Package Brown+Tatum+ Morris. But Ainge wouldn't give that package for P George, so he propably wouldn't do this for Leonard either.

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19 Mar 2018 13:06:55
but leonard is much better to paul george he is Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA 1st, 2x DPOY, 3x All-NBA Defensive 1st, 2x All-Star how about george All-NBA Defensive 1st, MIP, 5x All-Star
leonard is 6 years in nba and george is 7 years in nba leonard more accomplish than george.

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19 Mar 2018 13:11:05
A healthy Leonard is a lot better than George and younger.

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18 Mar 2018 18:55:19
Bulls draft picks Mikal Bridges and Daniel grafford center pels pick we trade Robin Lopez and Justin holiday Grant plus 2020 1st for kris Middleton then in free agency we sign Fred van leet Mario from magic sign Gerald green sign Zach Lavine 4 years 75m.

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18 Mar 2018 19:51:18
I'd say make that a NOP pick for Middleton, and it's a far reaching possibility. The 2020 is just too many years away to be of significant value for the Bucks who are seriously competing now. Lopez is just a salary filler with not much value. Holiday is the best piece in that proposal. Depends on how much Bucks value salary relief.

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18 Mar 2018 21:47:31
Sentences are your friend.

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18 Mar 2018 22:52:35
Pels pick won’t find you a sf like Khris.

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19 Mar 2018 07:01:03
No way bucks do this that's a lot of junk.

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19 Mar 2018 13:12:18
I can't see Middleton being traded unless it's in a package for a star. He's probably their 2nd best player.

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18 Mar 2018 15:45:31
If Atlanta, Orlando, Sacramento or Cleveland (assuming Lebron walks) lands the 1st overall.

The Celtics trade the Boston 2018 pick, the Sacramento pick, the Memphis pick, and the Clippers pick for the 1st overall and draft Ayton

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18 Mar 2018 20:11:26
Ainge might do that. The MEM, LAC picks have a window of conveying, so this might be a good idea. I like the spacing for adding talent the SAC pick gives BOS though by being next season. How much of a gambler is Ainge, and how much does he like the crop of draftee's this season. There's good talent on the cheap at 27-or better this season.

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18 Mar 2018 20:16:33
I was mistaken, The MEM conveys eventually no matter what, so 3 first's guaranteed for 1, #1 overall? Nah. Ainge wouldn't do that probably.

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18 Mar 2018 21:04:16
The only pick that's guaranteed to be in the lottery is the Sacramento pick. The Clippers pick at best is in the late lottery and at worst would be in the mid 20s. The same could be said for Memphis and Boston's pick will be late. Ayton could be the final piece they need to truly compete for a title. Plus, there is little doubt that Ayton can do it on the offensive end. His defense needs to improve and Stevens is a coach that can help him do that and the Celtics' defensive culture should do a lot towards him buying in.

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19 Mar 2018 00:10:24
I bet BOS would take Bagley over Ayton. It doesn't matter, Ainge isn't falling for his own 1 pick for 2 trick anyway. Let alone 3, possibly 4 for 1. Seems unlikely anyway.

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19 Mar 2018 03:18:58
Lottery-shmottery. 3-1sts, and 1 maybe 1st, for 1, #1 overall is a ridiculous price to pay. Ainge pulls that trick on others, not on himself. Draft Bamba, or Bagley, or Carter jr. If defense, and PF/ C is the need of BOS, why a project? I think Ayton is a good player/ young prospect, but maybe a bit hyped kinda like T. Young. Ayton is definitely not Embid-like. #1 also comes with a 10 mil/ per price tag. BOS would likely have to let go of Smart, or others. The timing of next seasons SAC pick gives them another full season, and this year's playoffs to analyze talent, and formulate a hypothesis on who to keep, let go, and draft. This years pick is just bonus. Who knows LAC could make playoffs, and they get another @ #15.

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19 Mar 2018 04:05:51
Jorga, the only pick that Boston will have is their own this year unless they get extremely lucky in the lottery. I just think it would take that kind of haul for a team to move the first and not end up still being in the top 5.

I just don't see Bagley being the guy they take. They need a bigger center that could be a good defender and rim protector in the NBA. I'm just not sure Bagley has the tools to really be that in the NBA. I also think Ayton's upside is just so much higher than Bagley's. Bagley has the smoother game right now, but Ayton is the better athlete and has much better size.

Also, the Celtics have 7 or 8 players on their roster that are under 25 plus they have Horford, Gordon, and Irving that are all part of their long term plans. Will they even have space or minutes to develop 5 draft picks in the next 2 year? Especially, their own picks that will be late in the first and if the Clippers or Memphis picks land later in the draft. I think at some point they're going to have to package some of them to move up in the draft or in a trade for a super star. Their roster just doesn't have much room.

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19 Mar 2018 10:48:51
I like Ayton going to the Celtics for that package, but i agree with Jorga that Ainge wouldn't do that.

If he trade those picks, it's for a star.

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17 Mar 2018 17:07:34
If Lebron James stays and keep brk pick

Cavs receive -Kemba Walker,micheal Kidd Gilchrist

Hornets receive- George hill,Ante Zizic,2021 cavs 1st,2022 cavs 2nd,2019 Portland 2nd,draft rights to Milan Macvan

Cavs get a guy to try a fill kyries shoes hornets get picks and a young center

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17 Mar 2018 17:24:14
Hornets can attract a better package I think. That pick being so far into the future robs value from the trade too. I feel like the Hornets have the assets in Kaminski, Howard, Graham, Lamb, Monk, and this year's pick to undo some roster/ salary issues without having to lose Walker. If Walker goes, Zeller, or Batum need to go too before MKG, and Williams.

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18 Mar 2018 00:14:19
Unless the Cavs end up in the top 2 and trade down, I don't see how they could get a high pick and an allstar. If they could land the 1st and pull off something like Boston did that would be perfect. That's obviously a huge if, but if people want to buy into a rigged lottery, the Cavs adding a top pick and an allstar would be ideal for the league if Lebron is staying.

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17 Mar 2018 01:40:39
Cavs trade down if cavs pick land 1and brk pick land 4-6

Cavs get pick 4,pick 16,2019 2nd,2021 Miami 1st

Phoenix receives Tristan Thompson,pick 1

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17 Mar 2018 13:37:17
Thompson does not get you that kind of haul.

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17 Mar 2018 14:20:11
I'm not sure they get the 3rd 1st, but the number 1 can absolutely bet you that kind of haul. Boston just ended with the the 3rd pick and a pick structured in a way that it was almost guaranteed to be top 5. Ayton or Doncic both seem like they could be perfect fits for the 2 biggest holes in Phoenix's team. Doncic could be a point forward/ pg/ combo guard and be the facilitator for them. Obviously, Ayton brings them the center they need. Is that worth their 2nd 1st this year and 2 years of Thompson's deal? I would say it is.

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17 Mar 2018 14:39:33
Dacman the hual is not for Tristan Thompson it’s for that number 1 pick that could turn into a superstar Tristan is just a throw in.

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17 Mar 2018 16:47:09
Noah for Thompson they have the same value lol.

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17 Mar 2018 17:21:31
Shizzee, one guy is a 26 year old role player on a playoff team making 16 million a year and the other is a 34 year old that's not allowed in the one of the worst teams in the league's practice facility making 18 million a year, but whatever makes you sleep at night.

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17 Mar 2018 18:07:48
LarryLegend33 posted a lecture on moral turpitude directed at me for less rkenne_16, you best be careful daddy's watching!

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17 Mar 2018 18:35:04
Moral turpitude! reminds me of the 1st Porkys movie. And i mis-read the proposal. I didn't see the "if Cavs land 1st overall". My bad. With that in mind it is more than fair IMO.

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17 Mar 2018 19:28:59
I haven't seen the porky's flick, I stole it from Mark Twain.

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17 Mar 2018 01:37:51
Suns -pick 27

Celtics-Tyson chandler

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17 Mar 2018 04:05:15
Chandlers 13 mil, and the looming re-signing of Smart. Theiss, Horford, Baines, Monroe playing well makes this seem kind of expensive, and not Ainge-like, or good for BOS.

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16 Mar 2018 23:55:08
Knicks 2018 summer is busy with defensive moves.

Clippers get Hardaway Mudiay
Knicks get Beverly Ross Thornwell
Magic get Rivers

Pacers get C.Zeller Noah 2019 top 20 protected
Hornets get Kanter Young
Knicks get Howard Jefferson 53

Faried for Thomas Baker

Ntilikina to Suns for R.Williams-16th Joel Berry-58


NoKnicks add better defenders for next yr and the future. Plenty of cap space and plenty young talent to draw Irving and 2nd superstar in 2019

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18 Mar 2018 12:41:10
I still don't understand why the Knicks trade Ntilikina? You stated this summer is for defensive purposes yet you trade their best defender for 2 unproven prospects.

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16 Mar 2018 23:54:02
LAL/ORL Trade this off-season

LA needs to clear cap to make a run at 2 FA all stars, maybe LBJ and PG13

LA trades: Zubac, Deng, 2018 1st (CLE), & earliest future unprotected 1st (2020/2021)

ORL trades: Mario Hezonja

LA saves cap space, gets out of awful Deng contract, and let's Hezonja walk in FA

ORL stretches Deng, gets maybe a promising young player in Zubac, resigns Gordon, and gets a couple 1sts to sweeten the pot. ORL drafts Young with their own pick.

LA can then resign Randle and sign 2 FAs



Just a thought, what do you guys think?

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17 Mar 2018 01:01:53
Lakers can stretch Deng. They can keep randle plus sign George and James at 29 each.

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17 Mar 2018 20:54:40
Can’t trade MARIO he’s a free agent.

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17 Mar 2018 22:36:30
The Magic only have around 18 million in cap space and that's without Mario's contract since he's a free agent. Also, that's without Gordon or anyone else's cap hold. I can't see them relinquishing the rights to Gordon. They being in close to 20 million. Even if they could fit that money in, I think it would be easier for the Lakers to work out a sign and trade with the Cavs or Thunder.

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18 Mar 2018 04:14:51
Moat contracts expire early July, so technically Hezonja can be traded just before, during, and after the draft. I'm not reprised of Hezonja's exact expiration date. I could be wrong.

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16 Mar 2018 21:45:43
What if Lebron would opt in for a trade to the Lakers and didn't want to play with Ball, because of fit and the noise around him.

Ball and Deng for Lebron

If the Lakers accept all option that would put their cap number at 49 million and the cap should be around 100 million.

After signing George at around 35 million? I know they can't sign him for the super max so it shouldn't be to ridiculous of a number. That gives them 15 million to spend in free agency plus the the 9ish million MLE.

They could easily fit Bradley and Lopez into that and might have some cash left over.

Bradley/ Hart/ solid veteran

Add some ring chasing veterans and go after a 3 and D prospect or defensive big man with the Cavs pick.

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17 Mar 2018 01:13:54
That be good for the cavs if James wants out. Plus give the cavs Randle also. They would have ball, randle love hood and the Brook pick to build around plus Thompson is he can get it together. So love can get traded
Say George takes 30 and puts Lakers at 79 that's 22 left for DJ. Use mle on Evans
James/ evans
Noel/ zubak.

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17 Mar 2018 01:43:34
What if.

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17 Mar 2018 16:24:30
Shizzee, this whole site is what if and I've heard analysts mention that there are rumors that that may be the case. Lebron has been notably annoyed by TT bring the Kardashian stuff to the team and Ball doesn't play a style that seems like it would mesh well with Lebron. He's a solid defender, but on the offensive end, Ball needs the ball and doesn't spread the floor. I'm sure, they could make it work to a degree, but they may be better off keeping all of their other assets while getting rid of their 2 biggest contracts so that they can go out pieces that fit better than Ball.

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