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27 Jul 2016 17:26:13

CHA out Zeller, Hawes and TPE
CHI out Taj Gibson
Toronto out TRoss
76ers out Okafor and Hollis Thompson

Cha in Okafor, Ross and Thompson
Chi in Zeller
Toronto in Hawes
6ers in Taj Gibson.

27 Jul 2016 17:39:32
Makes no sense for Raptors and it's horrible for 76ers.

27 Jul 2016 19:22:33
I actually think this may go down as the worst trade posted on here. We get it, you are a North Carolina fan, but my gosh, this is just absurd. I can't tell what's the worst part.

but think of it this way.

The bulls get zeller for gibson.

The sixers then get gibson for Okafor and Thompson. But, you put gibson and zeller about the same value.

So essentially, you are saying Zeller for Okafor AND Thompson. Zeller, a career 7/ 5 center, who plays 21 minutes a game. nets you okafor AND thompson.

Oh, and hawes has no value, let alone snagging ross.

Thanks, this was a waste.

27 Jul 2016 19:43:42
Zeller is still young though and has improved every year but he isn't worth Okafor.

27 Jul 2016 20:30:05
No. Sixer say absolutely not.

27 Jul 2016 21:02:58
Zeller is entering his fourth year in the NBA. He increased his put production from 7 to 8 last year. and his rebounding improved by less than half a rebound. While is assists were 50% higher the year prior.

Zeller at best will be a back up center in the league. Most likely though, out in a few years.

I have to assume this whole post was a joke, because really, zeller at BEST could get a very very late 1st round pick and hawes isn't worth nothing at this point, he's worth less.

27 Jul 2016 21:34:08
Hamburger you always got to disagree with what people say don't you?

27 Jul 2016 21:59:03
I actually agree almost always with winston. Often times with theking and sometimes with jvoug.

Merely pointing out facts.

If you want to build off of a center with below average production and claim it's fine because he has increased his scoring by less than a point, so be it.

Just is what it is, Zeller is a significant bust, especially when compared to others that could have been had, like McCollum, Anteokounmpo, Noel, KCP, Adams, schroeder, gobert. list goes on.

Sorry if disagreement with your posts so bitterly offends you. Perhaps public message boards isn't the best place.

27 Jul 2016 22:14:38
I certainly don't always agree with hamburger, although his comments are usually entertaining. But he's 100% correct. Your trade is horrendous for the sixers, and makes no sense for Toronto. It ranks up there with the all time worst.

27 Jul 2016 22:33:13
Thanx! Oh and uh terrible trade. Just terrible. Not the worst ever, but its got a spot in the all time round of 64, and not as a play in. More like a 4 seed. This trade is the Gonzaga of terrible trade idea's. Not elite, but in a head to head it could do some damage and maybe make an elite eight run. Adding Hollis Thompson was a stroke of terrible take genius. I mean think about. Oak wasn't enough for Taj Gibson, it'd take oak and Hollis Thompson to pry Gibson from the bulls. Strong, my friend, very strong.

28 Jul 2016 00:27:19

My apologies. Not your trade, mrtarheels ridiculous trade.

28 Jul 2016 01:23:47
Lol jvoug its okay
And hamburger I never said I wanted to build off of Zeller. He still has the potential to be a quality starting center in the NBA, but never an all star.

28 Jul 2016 01:35:19
while we are on topic i never agree with Tre, Hamburger, or any Lakers fans (lol) Darkwing, Usa, and Jvoug share similar opinions with me.

28 Jul 2016 03:18:22
So someone made an imposter Winston the wolf account?

28 Jul 2016 03:20:00
Hate to break it to you ThunderFan02 but USA is a Lakers fan.

28 Jul 2016 04:44:50
No, I have a phone that keeps turning on in my pocket, logging me out, then hitting the I forgot my password button, which then makes it impossible to login unless you get an email from the sight, which is what happened last time and I never got said email. Its like the worst buttdialing phone in existance. So rather than wait for something that's never going to come, I just set up another account, this time in light of mikerockwell continually calling me Winston, because I think its fun to keep switching, and in honor of having recently been kicked off RealGm for swearing at the moderator under the DW moniker, I went back. Its me unfortunately and to prove it ill continue to: change my avatar every week or so, get into a Ricky Rubio argument at least once a month: walk the fine line between great basketball mind and gin soaked troll: and never ever ever ever ever forget that the going rate for Jahlil Oakafor was, is, and always will be the Boston Celtics #3 pick in the 2016 draft. Sorry if this causes confusion. Wait no I'm not.

28 Jul 2016 08:07:07
TheKING thanks for telling him.

26 Jul 2016 08:05:33

UTA get Jimmy Butler and Taj Gibson

Hill/ Neto/ Mack
Butler/ Johnson
Hayward/ Hood
Gibson/ Lyles/ Ingles
Gobert/ Diaw/ Whitey

CHI get Cousins and Gay

Rondo/ Grant/ Canaan
Wade/ Valentine
Gay/ Mcdermott
Cousins/ Mirotic
Lopez/ Portis

SAC get Favors, Exum, Burks, 1st from CHI and 1st from UTA

Exum/ Collison
Afflalo/ Burks
Barnes/ Mclemore
Favors/ Casspi/ Skal
Wcs/ Koufos.

26 Jul 2016 09:49:02
Not sure Cousins is a great fit for Chicago, but so is wade.
Love this trade for Utah. That team could challenge GS, propably not win, but love to see those games.
Those players are a great replacement for cousins, so Sacramento should do this.

26 Jul 2016 00:47:03

But they are trading Noel.

76ers / Bulls

Sixers get: Denzel Valentine,2017 Bulls 1st (1-10 protected) .
Bulls get: Nerlens Noel

Bulls have Butler, Wade, and Mirotic to score. Also counting on Portis to supply some offense raise year. Rondo to distribute and Jermyn Grant to back him up. What's missing? Rim protecting stud in the middle who can start the fast breaks with the steal or blocked shot. Nerlens is a perfect fit. Sixers get Valentine who could help there backcourt and be developed into a solid offensive role player in the backcourt. Also a mid first rounders next year (likely between 15-23).

26 Jul 2016 01:38:45
Bulls already have a solid starting center in Robin Lopez but this price isn't terrible for Noel.

26 Jul 2016 02:21:38
I'm not sure the Bulls do this, I mean they do have a rim protector that's still pretty good in robin Lopez.

26 Jul 2016 03:12:07
Bulls not doing that.

26 Jul 2016 13:24:52
Who would say no to this? Noel is better the anyone the bulls would draft next year by a large margin and Valentine is a role player. As a rookie, would he even play over Snell?

On the other hand this is prolly best case scenario for the Sixers value wise.

26 Jul 2016 13:59:08
As a Sixer fan, I would want Sac 2017 1st (1-10 protected) included. Which would be a second if it doesn't convey. I might be over valuing Noel, but I don't want him traded to begin with. Noel and Okafor must stay.

26 Jul 2016 14:32:22
Your capitalized rant - do you have an in with the front office? If not, stop. Okafor is just as likely to be traded as Noel. It's that simple.

That said, this deal isn't so bad.

26 Jul 2016 14:52:36
It wasn't a rant. It was one sentence. But still true. You have no inside knowledge which makes you attempting to yell for us to stop a valid statement.


27 Jul 2016 13:16:49
I'd pass. Valentine was a mid first and the top ten protected is a mid first. Why trade Noel a proven Nba player for mid round picks? I'd rather have him as a back up.

25 Jul 2016 22:14:05

Cha out Zeller and 1st
Chi out Gibson, Snell
76ers out Okafor

Cha in Okafor and Snell
Chi in Zeller
76ers in Gibson and protected 1st from Cha.

26 Jul 2016 01:40:15
Don't think Okafor's value is that low. Don't understand why 76ers would want to be bothered with Gibson (that is an expensive price to pay for veteran leadership)

27 Jul 2016 13:17:30
Not trading Okafor unless blown away. That package is not going to get it done.

25 Jul 2016 18:28:22
Spin off trade I saw earlier


Celtics receive Butler, Gibson,17 2nd Sixers
Sixers receive Smart, Johnson (salary reasons), 2017 Brooklyn pick
Bulls receive Okafor, Brown, Korkmaz, 2018 Brooklyn pick, 2018 2nd Sixers

This trade works out on ESPN trade machine.
Sixers get rid of a big and get Smart and Brooklyns pick, which means they likely have 3 top 10 picks if not top 5 next draft
Celtics get a star player to compete now
Bulls get younger and get good value for Butler who would have hard time playing with wade and rondo.

25 Jul 2016 22:38:13
Sixers getting way too much. they should add at least one 1st round pick.

25 Jul 2016 22:53:50
@-----> Sheeeee

The Sixers aren`t going to give up a large amount of our assets if you trading team refuses to give us the specific player we want. REMEMBER, we have the assets that BOSTON and CHICAGO need. we can wait until this coming draft and trade deadline and move our bigs if we need too.
if we not getting I. Thomas then the trade won`t happen unless someone else involved in the trade gives us an asset we deem worthy as a replacement.

25 Jul 2016 23:57:10
Boston is not getting anything.

26 Jul 2016 01:25:21
I am also sixers fan and I would do this deal in a heartbeat. Also Shizee if you classify a star player as nothing then your right.

26 Jul 2016 01:53:06
If Celtics were willing to give up that much I think they'd already have Butler. Bulls are getting a great return with two top prospects, a promising european talent and a future likely top lotto pick (a lot better return then I think they can expect to get) . 76ers are probably getting too much given what other gms have valued Okafor at.

26 Jul 2016 14:54:57
Celtics and bulls don't "need" the assets of the worst team in the league last year. Your values are foolish.

25 Jul 2016 09:30:19


Boston gets Jimmy Butler / N. Noel / T. Luwawu

CHI gets J. Okafor / Jaylen Brown / D. Saric

Philly gets I. Thomas / D. Valentine / T. Gibson and 1st Rnd Pick from (NETS) via Boston

This gives Boston and Chicago great lineups and key reserves in case of injuries. Philly will need to jell and see what happens and then go in the draft if Embiid doesn`t pan out.

Chi Rondo / Wade / Brown / Mirotic / Okafor
Boston Smart / Bradley / Butler / Horford / Noel
Philly Thomas / Henderson / Simmons / Gibson / Embiid.

25 Jul 2016 09:50:38
Terrible trade for Boston
They lose Jaylen, Isiah, and brooklyn 1st round
They get Butler (probably worth maybe a little more than Isiah), Nerlens Noel (not worth Jaylen) and Luwawu (24th overall. Nets is going to be top 5 at least) I don't feel Boston gets any better and they don't get any younger either so why. I can tell you are a 76ers fanboy from the trade and the name.

25 Jul 2016 09:58:19
I can't see Philly giving up both Noel and okafor with embiid still not 100%.

25 Jul 2016 10:33:11

I think Boston will want our overseas stash players (Korkzum) or R. Covington or N. Stauskas.

25 Jul 2016 10:57:54
All teams are giving up a lot.

Boston should do this, if they want to win now
I'm not sure philly want to give up both Noel and Okafor, but I Thomas is a great return
Chicago should do this, this is a great return for Butler, I don't think butler an Wade fit in the same team, so trhee young talents is verry nice for them.

25 Jul 2016 11:53:28
I think we (Philly) would have to alter the trade.

Boston gets Butler / Luwawu / Gibson

CHI gets Okafor / Covington / Saric

Philly gets I. Thomas and D. Valentine and Bostons Lowest 2017 1st Rnd pick.

25 Jul 2016 12:04:39
Buller that was a terrible comment.

25 Jul 2016 13:13:50
Butler worth "maybe a little more" than Isiah Buller, Brown worth more than Noel; come on.

25 Jul 2016 13:33:55
Butler is worth Isaiah and a bkn pick atleast.

25 Jul 2016 08:17:25

SAC get Russell, Randle, 2nd from CHI and 2021 1st from LAL

LAL get Butler

CHI get Cousins and Lou Will

Only happens if Cousins is going to leave. I know Celtics or other team can offer more having fun as a LAL fan :) )

25 Jul 2016 08:48:32
How does Butler get you Cousins and Williams? And also that 2021 Lakers pick will be very awkward. It might be lottery or in the 20s depending on if the lakers can sign any free agents or if they make any good trades.

25 Jul 2016 09:10:53
Butler has a good contract whereas Cousins might just leave.

25 Jul 2016 09:28:10
Yes but Cousins hasn't hinted on leaving and Sacramento could get a better deal with Boston or another team with lots of assets. Also where does Butler fit on the Lakers? They're trying to rebuild. They lose two of their 3 top young talents and with hardly any depth will have their 2018 first round pick and then they'll end up trading Butler away for draft picks in 2019 and 2020.

25 Jul 2016 11:11:01
This is a bad trade for LA.
They should keep rebuilding with young assets.
I like this trade for sacramento, they get young assets and they propably keep their own pick (traded to philly, but protected)
chicago should do this, cousins is a better fit wit D Wade IMO.

25 Jul 2016 13:17:08
I feel like Cousins has hinted at leaving Sac many times, albeit indirectly. take his comments on their draft as an example.

25 Jul 2016 14:01:13
Put it this way. It would be a huge upset if he didn't leave Sacramento.

25 Jul 2016 15:29:56
It would be shocking if cousins resigned with the Kings when his contract is up.

25 Jul 2016 00:02:55

Lakers recieve DeMarcus Cousins

Kings recieve D'Angelo Russell, Ivaca Zubac, Nikola Mirotic, Doug McDermott, and LAL 2018 first round pick

Bulls recieve Julius Randle

Nance Jr-Bass



25 Jul 2016 00:29:37
Future gm how old are you lol? Jw.

25 Jul 2016 02:53:42
A: The Kings don't receive enough for Cousins

B: The Lakers can't trade their 2018 pick. 2017 is owed to Philly. 2019 is owed to Orlando. They can't trade a 1st until 2021.

25 Jul 2016 04:38:42
Magic you missed one thing. If Lakers Keep there pick next year then in 2018 Philly gets LA pick unprotected and then Lakers owe Orlando two second round picks.

25 Jul 2016 04:43:20
Bulls would be insulted if you offered that.

24 Jul 2016 21:40:31
Bulls- OKC

Bulls: Kanter+ Roberson+ Singer+ Sabonis+ 1rnd pick OKC+1rnd pick OKC 19 (top 7 protected)
OKC: J Butler+ Gibson

C: Adams
PF: Ilyasova
SF: Butler
PG: Westbrook
Sixth: Gibson

C: Kanter/ Portis/ Lopez
PF: Mirotic/ Sabonis
SF: McDermott/ Singer
SG: Wade/ Roberson/ Valentine
PG: Rondo/ Grant.

24 Jul 2016 22:51:44
Love it for OKC but don't see Bulls doing it.

24 Jul 2016 18:20:15

Bucks give Monroe
Bucks get Gibson, Lou Williams
(Great value for Monroe. An old school 4 who could fit with their soft team, plus a vet shooter for the bench. )

Bulls give Gibson and McD
Bulls get Gay
(I don't like Gay, but they seem interested. What a horrible fit with Wade and Butler in what was supposed to be a pace and space coaching plan.
Gibson wants out. Maybe the Bucks throw in Vaughn or a 2nd round pick. )

Kings give Cousins and Gay
Kings get Monroe, Randle, Russell, McD, future lakers 1st
(Gay for Monroe is a wash as both have little value in the modern game.
The rest I s as good as you are going to get for Boogie. Basically 3 high 1s and a mid 1st. )

Lakers get Cousins
Lakers give Randle, Russell, future #1, Lou Will
(Sign Westbrook next offseason. Big 3 becomes Boogie, Russ and Ingram. )

24 Jul 2016 21:10:24
Not big on the trade for Bucks but like it for everyone else. Lakers trading for Cousins makes a lot of sense and will help lure Westbrook there next summer. I think it will take a different trade (not necessarily more) to entice Kings. Getting Randle and Monroe is kind of redundant and they already have a bunch of bigs and they may want a few more draft picks rather than young players so they have more flexibility going forward and can get guys that are a better fit. Maybe trade Clarkson instead of Randle.

24 Jul 2016 21:53:08
Not sure, it' complicated

I think i like this one for the Bucks
Not sure about the Bulls, but i can see them doing it
Sacramento could use Russell, but i like Jaw457 's idea more
Clarkson+ russel would be great for them.

I don't know this is a good trade for LA. I think they should rebuilt with young talents. The next two or three years GS, Spurs and Cleveland are going to win it all, so they have time to rebuimt. Cousins isn't gonne make them a contender and i think Russel is going to have a break out year.

24 Jul 2016 13:54:45
Boston-bucks- Chi- New Orléans

Boston: Butler
Bucks: J holiday+ Hield+Asik+ A Johnson
Chi: Middleton+ Smart
NO: Monroe+ MCW+ 1rnd pick Bos 17 (swap Nets)

Bost: Noel
Philly: Bradley

C: Noel
SF: Crowder
SG: J Butler
PG: I Thomas
Sixth: Rozier/ Olynyk/ J Brown

C: Asik/ Henson
PF: Parker
SF/ Antetopounmpo
PG: Holiday

C:R Lopez/ Portis
PF: Mirotic/ gibson
SF: Middleton
PG: Rondo/ Smart

C: Monroe
PF: Davis
SF: T Evans
SG: MC Williams
PG: Cole

Boston receive a star and a two way player
Chicago receive a guy that can shoot the three's and a young PG

The bucks dump Monroe and receive a good SG an a PG

NO : A Davis can compensate Monroe's defensive play and they receive a verry good draft pick.

24 Jul 2016 14:35:47
BOS not giving enough.

24 Jul 2016 15:26:12
I like it

24 Jul 2016 16:59:55
Bucks get ripped again.
I can see half of it makings sense (Monroe for Asik and Holliday), but probably makes more sense with Evans instead of Holliday when he is healthy.
But no way Heild and Johnson get you Middleton.

Boston offered #3 plus other assets for Middleton. And the Bucks said no.

24 Jul 2016 20:03:04
I agree, Boston has to give up more to get Butler. Offered basically that same package for Butler, Jabari, and Middleton individually and it was immediately turned down instantly all three times.

24 Jul 2016 07:44:51
Bulls trade - McDermott

Clippers trade - Pierce Stone and maybe a 2nd

Paul - Rivers
Redick - Crawford
McDermott - Johnson
Griffin - Johnson
Jordan - Speights

Rondo - Grant
Wade - Valentine
Butler - Pierce - Snell
Portis - Mirotic
Lopez - Stone.

24 Jul 2016 12:09:46
Clippers should gamble and do this trade.
The clippers are a good fit for McDermott.

24 Jul 2016 03:17:42

To MIL : D Jordan, T Snell
Sign chalmers and waiters


To CHI : K Middleton, J Henson, G Monroe, 1st round pick MIL, 2nd rd pick LAC


To LAC : J Butler, R Lopez


24 Jul 2016 07:38:23
Doubt u can get butler and Lopez for Jordan and a pointless 2nd round dp.

24 Jul 2016 12:23:16
Love this trade for the clippers, that team could challenge GS.

Chicago gives up a lot, but i see the idea, They need 3-pointshouting. I don't think Butler and Wade can play together, so replacing him by Middleton would make them a better team.

The question is how good D Jordan is going to be without CP3?

24 Jul 2016 13:38:23
Don't know why the bucks do this

24 Jul 2016 16:53:19
Bucks give up Middleton, Henson, Monroe and a 1st basically for Jordan. And it's not Michael.

Yeah that makes no sense.
Middleton is the only guy on the team who can shoot, great contract, and team guy.

24 Jul 2016 20:08:31
Yeah, Jordan is a good fit at center, but they are giving up way to much. They are giving up their only shooter, which is their biggest need, (I think the centers on the roster are good enough), a first round pick, what this young team wants and needs, and one of their promising prospect centers in Henson. Who really cares about Monroe. Think clippers would have to send the Bucks a first and Johnson as well. Or some other compensation.

23 Jul 2016 07:16:52
Hawks trade - Korver and Muscala

Bulls trade - Gibson and Snell

Rondo - Grant
Wade - Korver
Butler - McDermott
Portis - Mirotic
Lopez - Muscala

Schredor - Jack
Sefolosha - Bembry - Snell
Bazemore - Prince
Milsap - Gibson
Howard - Splitter.

23 Jul 2016 07:31:40
Makes some sense, Bulls 2nd unit is horrible at defense though.

23 Jul 2016 08:39:41
Yeah I know but hopefully the whole 2nd unit won't be on the floor at the same time something like


I also forgot to add Valentine.

23 Jul 2016 10:35:45
Love this one for the Bulls, not sure about Atlanta.

23 Jul 2016 14:05:18
Bulls would have to throw in a second rounder or two.

27 Jul 2016 06:08:23
We're not trading Korver, he's our best shooter.

21 Jul 2016 15:57:32

Sac Get Monroe

Mil get Rudy Gay

Mcw for a 2nd rd pick from Bulls
Resign Novak

Antetokounmpo, Delly, Ennis
Middleton, Brogdon
Parker, Telly, Novak
Gay, Maker
Plumlee, Henson.

21 Jul 2016 16:21:12
But why does either team want this trade? Seems you are a Bucks fan, why would you want it?

Gay would take way too many possessions away from Parker and Giannis and is past his prime.

The Kings don't need another center, even if they trade Cousins really.

The only interest the Bucks should have in the Kings is McLemore. that is if Kidd thinks he can use his athleticism to improve McLemore's defense and use him behind Middleton. There at least he has time to grow with the rest of the Bucks young team. Gay would just hinder development.

21 Jul 2016 16:53:14
I guess I should have done this:

Delly - Brogdon
Middleton - . - Vaughn
Giannis (still really at PG) - . - Novak
Parker - Telly - Maker
Plumlee - Henson

Make shift lineup not including Monroe, MCW, Ennis, and hopefully the . 's are filled with a trade. I do agree with the others though, Monroe isn't highly valued and we may need to settle and trade him for picks/ backups.

21 Jul 2016 16:58:05
@Gerald your argument is so wrong. Players develop just from being out on the court, Gay showing up doesn't bench any of the Bucks young talent. The truth is there's s big gap in the Bucks line up, and Milwaukee's roster is so versatile that they can just afford to start the best player they find. You want real development, maybe Gay helps that team gets past the first round of the playoffs and the young guys get blooded as one of the rising powers in the East.

Having said all that, there's no way the Kings even consider that deal, it's a robbery for the Bucks. Also, Nitpicking here, if this did happen the Bucks would play Parker at the 4 and Gay at the 3.

21 Jul 2016 17:27:00
There are big gaps, Parker would be the 4, and they are versatile I agree with you there, but I don't believe your development from be just being on the court. Well sure you obviously have to be on the court and play to develop, but its not all about playing time. Gay will take many shots regularly and in crunch time from Middleton, Giannis, and Parker. There is a reason they signed both Delly and Plumlee on bigger contracts, they both are likely to mesh well with the developing guys.

You are also forgetting defense. Giannis can play the PG on offense, but a line up with Giannis, Middleton, Gay, Parker, Plumlee cannot work against any team with a decent normal PG. Therefore, Gay is taking away minutes or is on the bench.

You may see it as Gay getting along well, fine, but I just see another situation similar to Monroe, except with a guy that is on the decline.

21 Jul 2016 20:22:31
Not another big for Sacramento.

21 Jul 2016 00:18:52
Knicks 2017 Summer

Knicks get Wade
Bulls get Lee Thomas

Noah for Rockets 1st

Sign lebron and CP3 Resign Jennings

Payroll 100mil
CP3/ Jennings/ 2nd
Wade/ 1st/ 1st
Melo/ Kuzminskas/ 2nd
Lebron/ O'Quinn/ Ndour
Porzingis/ Hernangomez/ Plumlee.

21 Jul 2016 06:05:53
Yea okay lol.

21 Jul 2016 07:37:51
I did read about wade almost signing with the Knicks or would of.

21 Jul 2016 14:16:59
Clearly not happening. and that crap about the knicks almost signing wade was just anthony speculating that if they made an offer before they signed lee, he would have accepted. he's just trolling the media.

20 Jul 2016 17:39:09
4 way trade to remove logjams/ problems, fill needs

Raptors get Koufos from Kings, Mirotic/ Snell from Bulls

Celtics get Gay/ McLemore from Kings

Bulls get Bradley from Celtics, Nogueira from Raptors

Kings get Ross/ Wright/ 2017 1st from Raptors, Jerebko/ Young from Celtics

Raptors get depth at 3/ 4/ 5, gives them more options.

20 Jul 2016 18:45:00
I don't see the "remove logjams/ problems, fill needs" part for the Celtics. We are replacing Bradley with a far worse player in McLemore and then replacing Jerebko with an over priced inefficient player in Gay. Young is useless to every team so he is just a throw in.

I just don't see Gay as being able to be that number 1 scoring option on a successful team. I would rather have players that know how to play like a team with Bradley and Jerebko.

20 Jul 2016 21:11:19
If you don't like the trade fair enough, didn't envision him being the number 1 option on the team though, more as wing depth/ sixth man scoring role, but either way Gay is neither overpriced or inefficient, he may have been at one time, however, he has evolved a bit as a player, he was top 10 in fg% among SF's, shot a passable .344 from 3 and avg 17+ pts/ 6+ boards, in the new NBA that's easily a 20 mil dollar player, look at what Evan Turner got from Portland for not even close to the same production, I would think Jerebko will almost certainly be buried on the bench, with Horford/ Johnson/ Zeller/ Olynyk/ Mickey/ and which ever kids they keep taking up the bulk of 4/ 5 minutes and his production would be easily replaceable, and the emergence of Smart/ Rozier along with Thomas could help negate the loss of Bradley, if you'd prefer I could see Smart instead of Bradley in the deal with a little bookkeeping magic, I was just thinking the 1 is by far their biggest position of strength and the fact that the Celtics have shown interest in Gay has been widely reported, would you not agree that scoring from the 3/ wing would be the biggest area of need on your team? You have a good coach that runs a really good defensive system that can hide a players defensive deficiencies (Sullinger had good numbers in his system) . Adding 17 pts a game plus bench depth with potential upside along with opening minutes for Smart/ Rozier would be more valuable than what you would lose IMO, but it's your team, you'd know better than me.

20 Jul 2016 21:50:18
Its just to me Thomas (who was our number 1 scorer last year) isn't a number one scoring option on a team that wants to compete. Bradley was our number 2 scoring option and I would think he would stay the number 2 with the way our system works with drive and kicks. I don't see Gay as being a good fit because I think he shoots the ball a heck of a lot and that for a player to do that he should be scoring more than 17 a game. He easily comes in here and is labeled the number 1 scoring option. And Jerekbo is probably the first or second big off the bench for us because of his stretch 4 abilities and his abilities to guard smaller guys. Its him and Olynyk as our 4 and 5 off the bench. Both of those guys were key players in our success last year and I just don't see a need to trade them for a player that no other team wants and his past teams have done better once he left.

21 Jul 2016 04:47:13
Hahaha look. One stat. Top 10 among sf. Awesome point made. He was in the top 3rd on one stat. Totally worth it.

Gay is a career loser. Fact.

19 Jul 2016 23:16:33
Bulls trade Nikola Mirotic, Taj Gibson, Tony Snell and the Kings pick back to SAC for Gay and McLemore and a second.

20 Jul 2016 02:58:42
Do the bulls need more wings? Wade butler mcdermott valentine is the rotation.

19 Jul 2016 17:07:49
76ers / Bulls

Sixers get: McBuckets, Valentine

Bulls get : Noel, Covington

Bulls have zero rim protection. Noel will solve that problem instantly. With Rondo, Wade, and Butler, they are in a win now mode. This does not mean Lopez is on the bench, but it gives the bulls a solid center rotation, with the scoring coming from Wade, Butler, and Mirotic. Portis and Gibson off the bench. Covington adds more defense and less offense then McBuckets, but only slightly less. Sixers desperately need shooters, and both Valentine and McBuckets can shoot the 3. I think it balances out both teams very nicely.

pg: Rondo, Grant
sg: Wade, Snell
sf: Butler, Covington
Pf: Mirotic, Portis, Gibson
C: Noel, Lopez

pg: Bayless, Rodriguez, Simmons
Sg: Henderson, Valentine, Luwawu, Thompson
sf: Simmons, McBuckets, Saric, Grant
pf: Okafor, Saric, Landry, Simmons
C: Embiid, Okafor, Holmes

sixers cut Marshall, Stauskas, McConnell.

19 Jul 2016 18:01:22
I'd consider sending Noel to Bulls for Bulls 2017#1 and Sac17 (1-10 protected) . Also if they include Valentine.

19 Jul 2016 20:05:53
I don't like this for the sixers. I like valentine, but not moreso then noel. Covington over mcbuckets as well.

19 Jul 2016 21:22:39
Covington and macbuckets is a wash. So Noel for Valentine is completely on sided. Sixers pass.

20 Jul 2016 05:32:32
Bulls should take this IMO but I doubt the ownership accepts, maybe if it had been pre-FA. The draft pick offer @pingisi mentioned would be shot down by the Bulls.

19 Jul 2016 08:27:21
Clarkson young 2nd round pick from Bulls and Ingram for Westbrook.

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