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22 Jun 2017 07:24:47
Twolves-Bulls-Knicks

Twolves get Jimmy Butler, #38 pick (via CHI), Mindaugas Kuzminskas, Kyle O'Quinn, and #58 pick (via NYK)

Bulls get Carmelo Anthony, #7 and #8 picks

Knicks get Andrew Wiggins, Ricky Rubio, and #16 pick.

22 Jun 2017 07:46:08
I don't think Twolves should give up that much for Butler. I'm not that keen about them giving up Wiggins in general but Wiggins, #7 AND Rubio doesn't make sense for them. I'm not even sure I'd do LaVine, #7 and Rubio.

Bulls return isn't great especially since they are giving up their #16 pick. Its nothing compared to what Celtics would likely offer.

Knicks are getting back too much in this trade. Yes they are giving up #8 but Wiggins is more valuable than that and I'm not convinced most teams would even give up #16 pick for Melo at this stage of his career. He certainly doesn't make sense for Bulls without Butler who could just trade directly with Twolves and get a better return in this scenario.

22 Jun 2017 06:00:05
Mega Deal
Bos-Nyk-Min-Chi

Celtics
Trades: #3, La/Sac pick, Bos 2018 pick, Crowder
Receives: Porzingis
Sign Hayward

Knicks
Trades: Porzingis, Melo
Receives: #3, La/Sac pick, Lavine, Rondo

Two great picks and young star in Lavine

Timberwolves
Trades: #7, Lavine
Receives: Butler

Get superstar to pair with Wiggins/Townes

Bulls
Trades: Butler, Rondo
Receives: #7, Bos 2018, Melo, Crowder

Get great pick and Melo and Crowder to start with Wade. Try to sign Chris Paul or Paul Millsap

22 Jun 2017 07:36:16
Boston is trading too much, the Bulls aren't giving enough, Knicks are getting too much, and the Wolves aren't giving enough. Plus these kinds of trades don't happen.

22 Jun 2017 05:11:56
Bulls trade: Butler Portis valentine
Bulls receive: porzingus dunn noah

Knicks trade: porzingus melo
Knicks receive: Wiggins Portis Rubio #7 pick Aldrich hill

Twolves trade Wiggins Rubio Dunn #7 pick Aldrich hill
Twolves receive butler melo valentine

22 Jun 2017 05:59:05
no way any team will accept wrapping C. Anthony in a Porzingis trade.

22 Jun 2017 02:45:20
Celtics - Jimmy Butler

Kings - #3 pick, Bobby Portis, Terry Rozier

Bulls - Picks #5 and #10, Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder.

22 Jun 2017 00:47:27
Twolves-Bulls-Knicks

Twolves get Jimmy Butler

Bulls get Carmelo Anthony, #7 and #8 picks

Knicks get Ricky Rubio, Andrew Wiggins, and #16 pick (via CHI)

22 Jun 2017 06:33:41
Twolves say no.

21 Jun 2017 17:48:09
The Lakers get Wade and Butler

The Bulls get Deng, Clarkson, Randle, the 2, 27, and 28

21 Jun 2017 18:45:15
I wouldn't want to take on Wade unless he would be willing to take a big discount next year to make space for LBJ.

21 Jun 2017 18:52:46
TriangleO, the idea was to have a recruiter for Lebron. It's not a forgone conclusion that Lebron is going to LA. No matter the chatter until LA shows they can put together a championship caliber team, I highly doubt Lebron seriously considers going their. Wade could help and at worse he's an expiring.

21 Jun 2017 21:18:37
Rkenne, I'm not saying I truly believe LBJ is going to the Lakers next offseason, I'm just saying that it's pointless to bring Wade over if he expects a salary above an exception level next year. They would not be able to keep him anyways if LBJ does in fact want to come, and Wade won't take a minimum. e.

21 Jun 2017 21:29:53
why would the lakers trade the 2 pick. there going to take lonzo or fox. if they trade it there was no point of trading diangelo russell.

21 Jun 2017 21:41:54
That's a lot of picks for Butler and wades contract.

21 Jun 2017 07:49:24
Clippers are looking to deal Jordan. Not sure what Clippers are looking for in return (I guess depends on how their offseason goes) but don't see them getting anything too great since most good teams don't have a need for a center, he'll be 29 in a month and he only has 1 year guaranteed left (player option for 18-19 which he'll probably opt out of to get one last big contract) .

Bucks get: Deandre Jordan
Clippers get: #17, Vaughn, Henson, Teletovic

Could swap Henson and Teletovic for Monroe if he opts in. This return would be decent if Clippers were aiming to rebuild.

Celtics get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Horford, Clippers 2019 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Boston needs a rebounder at center position and still keep cap space for Hayward and other moves. Clippers get draft picks including their own back and a versatile big that is signed a year longer than Jordan.

Bulls get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Lopez, Valentine and #16 pick

Bulls get an all-nba player to add to Butler and still have cap space to make a splash in FA. Could alternatively incorporate Wade if he opts in. Clippers get a solid pick and hometown solid starting big in Lopez and young prospect in Valentine.

Cavs get: Jordan
Clippers get: Thompson and Frye

Not sure if really makes Cavs better but Jordan is bigger force on interior and Clippers get a younger big that is signed 3 more years.

Wizards: Jordan
Clippers: Gortat and Bogdanovic (S&T)

Gortat is reportedly unhappy with Wizards so they upgrade on him while Clipper get two solid players in return.

Spurs and his hometown Rockets would also be good destinations but couldn't think of a trade that would really make sense for both sides (some of these are a stretch as is) .

21 Jun 2017 11:10:57
I think the clippers want pg. In that way they might keep cp3 and blake. Give the assets to indy.
If pg leaves in 2018 they still have cp3 and blake.
Think a firstrounder in the range 12-16 is enough because lakers can't offer much.

21 Jun 2017 13:52:19
I guess dealing Jordan would be a way for Clippers to get assets to get in the George sweepstakes. I'm just not sure Paul and Griffin would base their decision to return for multiple years or not on a guy who may only be a 1year rental. If anything its the other way around, if they are able to sign Paul and Griffin they could help Clippers to resign George if they traded Jordan for him in a 3 team trade.

21 Jun 2017 02:26:10
Knicks/ Blazers

To NYK - Turner, #26

To POR - Lee, 2nd from Bulls.

21 Jun 2017 16:30:31
That's not a bad trade, especially if you're thinking you want Monk in the draft. Turner is ideally a PG on offense, and would likely fit the triangle well. The issue comes on the defensive end. You'll need to have someone playing the "3" who's essentially a tall shooting guard. They'll be defending the 1 or 2, but they will need to be a shooter, and tall enough to not get completely eaten up by a SF on the offensive side.

21 Jun 2017 02:20:21
CLE - CHI - PHX

Cleveland wants Butler and the Suns have been rumored as a good 3rd team fit, so how about this:

Cavs get: Jimmy Butler
Cavs trade: Kevin Love, 2018 1st

Upgrade from Love to Butler, adds perimteter defense and Butler is on contract for two years (as opposed to PG13 for 1 year)

Suns get: Kevin Love
Suns trade: Brandon Knight, TJ Warren, 2018 1st (MIA)

They get some veteran leadership to help Chriss, Bender, Len, and Tatum (whom they draft since they traded Warren) while dumping Knights contract and retaining Bledsoe

Bulls get: Brandon Knight, TJ Warren, 2018 1st (MIA), 2018 1st (CLE)
Bulls trade: Jimmy Butler

This is what I'm unsure of. They get two 1st's next year plus two players under 26 that can help right away. They can draft a center at 16 and have a young core of Knight, Valentine, Warren, Portis, and 16th pick. It's not amazing, but all players that could be good starters. Plus having 3 1st's next year to add to it. But is it enough to justify giving up Butler?

21 Jun 2017 02:31:09
Cavs can't trade the 18. Their first tradable pick is 2031.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:56
Can't trade consecutive 1sts. They have already traded this year and 2019 away. Cavs can't trade a 1st until 2021.

21 Jun 2017 02:44:04
Not enough for Butler, don't think that is even enough for Love although I'm not sure Suns are right team for Love. I'd choose a young team closer to contention such as Nuggets or maybe even the Jazz who have 2 1sts and some young talent Exum and Lyles.

21 Jun 2017 03:11:36
No from Bulls.

If I'm losing a star #4 must be on the deal

TJ Warren is all right but it's a role player at his best
I'm not paying Knight salary. he is not a starter

Bulls want #4 and Chriss or Bender

If PHX gets Love there's not space for both at PF anyway.

21 Jun 2017 06:11:30
That's not enough for two years of butler! That trade would only happen if Brooklyns front office was making the decisions.

21 Jun 2017 08:21:27
Hope Phx doesn't trade for Love. They should keep the pick, they're a young team not too far away from doing something soon!

21 Jun 2017 00:49:06
Trades to happen soon

Lakers-Pacers
George and Jefferson for 27,28, Randle

Ball-Ingram-George-Deng-Lopez

Celtics-Bulls
#3, whatever pick they get from Sixers, Brown for Butler
Sign Hayward
IT-Bradley-Haywayd-Butler-Horford (small ball)

Knicks-Sixers
76ers get Porzingis and Noah
Knicks get Korkmaz, Okafor, whatever pick they keep from Celtics deal, 2018 Sixers first, and 2 2nd rounders this year

Simmons-Fultz-Covington-Porzingis-Embiid

21 Jun 2017 02:49:39
The sixers could never get porzingis for that package. But Embiid, Porzingis, Simmons, Reddick, Fultz sure looks like a nice starting 5.

21 Jun 2017 03:04:48
That trade for Porzingis is a joke.

21 Jun 2017 00:34:32
3 team trade

Wolves,bulls,Knicks

Wolves get Butler

Knicks get #7 pick,bobby portis, and bulls 1rst round pick 2018

Bulls get Rubio,Wiggins and porzingis

21 Jun 2017 03:05:29
Twolves giving up too much for Butler and Knicks not getting nearly enough for Porzinigis.

21 Jun 2017 03:20:56
Wolves need something more.
maybe Valentine or #16 from Bulls.

20 Jun 2017 22:20:49
Crazy trade but let's see how it goes


Project make twolves a super team

NYK-CHI-MIN



Knicks get Rubio + Dieng + Chicago second + future twolves 1st (2019? Don't know what can be traded)

Bulls get Lavine + Wolves #7

Wolves get Porzingis + Butler


Knicks: Rubio- Lee- Carmelo- Dieng- Noah

Bulls: Rondo- Lavine- Wade- Isaac- Lopez

Wolves: Dunn- Butler- Wiggins- Porzingis- Towns



Kinda crazy but I like it

21 Jun 2017 00:00:18
Kat and 7th for Porzingis bc he just better.

21 Jun 2017 00:01:18
Terrible for the Knicks.

21 Jun 2017 01:20:03
The offer for Butler is reasonable but the offer for Porzingis is horrible value on a player that is younger, cheaper and better than both Rubio and Dieng already. If Twolves were serious about getting Porzingis after the first trade Wiggins would have to be involved.

21 Jun 2017 01:44:18
I could see the Bulls making that deal if LaVine is healthy, but Knicks will want a better package than that.

21 Jun 2017 01:53:35
No way wolves get that much talent giving up so little. Wiggins or town would have to be part of this.

21 Jun 2017 03:15:50
If Lavine was healthy I say Yes for Bulls
But nobody knows that at this point
so Wiggins istade of Lavine

it's not a big gap between both anyway IMO.

20 Jun 2017 22:07:28
4 way trade Suns Cavs Bulls Pacers

Cavs receive
George
Butler
Ellis
Dudley

Suns receive
Love
Lopez

Pacers receive
Knight
Chandler
Frye
2017 #4 pick from Suns
2021 1st round pick from Cleveland

Bulls Receive
Thompson
Al Jefferson
Shumpert
2018 first round pick (miami) from suns
2018 2nd round pick (Toronto) from Suns
2019 2nd round pick (LA of Minn, Least fav) from Cleveland
2020 2nd round pick (Portland) from Cleveland

21 Jun 2017 00:39:02
PHX Mgt hears this. laughs a lot. recovers in time to hang up. No way Suns do a deal like this. period.

21 Jun 2017 01:54:50
Irving must be in trade. Love value is declining fast.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:23
Phxfan, it's been reported that they've thought about moving the 4 for Love. It gives them a cheap star that they control for 3 years.

21 Jun 2017 08:27:30
Cheap is right, Love isn't what he used to be! Everyone talks about Bledsoe being injury prone, why not bring up the fact that Love is injury prone, Suns dnt need that and I hope they're not wanting to trade for him!

20 Jun 2017 21:19:11
Celtics-Bulls

Celtics receive Jimmy Butler
Bulls receive #3, 2018 Brooklyn first pick, and 2019 memphis pick

21 Jun 2017 01:55:51
Good trade could see this exact trade being done.

21 Jun 2017 22:37:22
If Boston rejected the Bulls offer of Bulter for the #3 pick straight up what makes you think they would then be willing to give up 2 more future 1st round picks for him? Plus as a Celtics fan I don't get why there are rumors about us going and trading for Butler or George. We have Bradly and Crowder at those positions respectively. What the Celtics really need is a proven power forward or a proven center that would allow Horford to move to the power forward. Don't get me wrong Butler and or Gorge would be nice to have but why give up assets for them when we could give up assets for a position like we actually need. I would rather trade for someone like Porzingus if possible.

20 Jun 2017 13:05:35
Knicks "build" offseason

Phil is obviously trying to move Melo to get younger and play the triangle, but what if he can't find a deal him? Why not build instead:

Three team deal:

To NYK - LMA

To CHI - Courtney Lee

To SAS - Hernangomez, Valentine

Knicks move Zinger to center while adding a star player. Bulls pick up much needed outside shooting without breaking the bank. Spurs get two young promising players, and I one move clear almost enough space to sign Chris Paul.

Knicks/ Wolves

To NYK: Rubio

To MIN: Pick 8, Noah

Knicks get their point guard, and ditch Noah's contract. Wolves have the space to take on Noah's deal, and add another lottery pick to use or package for a star player.

This still leaves the Knicks with approximately $20M worth of space to fill the Shooting Guard role (Iggy, Ian Clark? ) and bench support to go with O'Quinn, Thomas and Kuz.

20 Jun 2017 14:50:37
Knicks still won't makes playoffs with this team. The only option they have is to rebuild.

20 Jun 2017 11:10:22
Now that Griffins gone I feel like Gilberts going to blow it up for whatever reason.
Gilberts Dream Scenario

4 team trade Cavs Bulls Pacers 76ers

Cavs Receive
Wade
George
Butler
Ellis
Bayless

Bulls receive
Love
Frye
Okafor
2 second rounders (NYK, ATL) this year from the 76ers
2019 first round (76ers) from the 76ers

Pacers Receive
Thompson
Shumpert
2018 first round pick(LAL) from 76ers
2019 second round (SAC) pick from 76ers
2021 first round pick from Cavs

76ers receive
Irving

20 Jun 2017 14:53:48
Rumors have Chauncy Billups as the possible GM. He has mentioned prior, that he thinks Melo would fit nicely on this team. If Billups is hired, look for a Melo deal not too far behind.

20 Jun 2017 16:20:09
Cleveland is about to become a dysfunctional team. Gilbert got his championship title, Blow it up now Dan. First move, trade the dude that has lied to you a few times and is about to do it again.

21 Jun 2017 23:24:29
Sixers are getting hosed in this one. Okafor, Bayless, 2 1's and 3 2's? That's way too much for Irving. We'll just play with what we have, thanks.

20 Jun 2017 05:14:37
Celtics-Bulls

Celtics receive Jimmy Butler

Bulls receive #3, 2018 Brooklyn pick, 2019 Memphis pick

20 Jun 2017 02:40:46
Bulls-Lakers-Suns

Bulls : Bledsoe , #4 pick & Clarkson
draft J.Tatum

Bledsoe-Mcw
Wade-Clarkson
Tatum-Valentine
Portis-Mirotic
Lopez-Felicio

Lakers : Butler & #16
draft D.Mitchell

Russell-Ennis
Butler-Young-Mitchell
Ingram-Brewer
Randle-Nance
Mozgov-Zubac

Suns : #2 , #28 & Deng
draft J.Jackson

Knight-Ulis
Booker-Dudley-Barbosa
Jackson-Deng-Warren
Chriss-Bender
Chandler-Len

20 Jun 2017 01:51:09
Celtics Trade: #3, 2018 BOS 1st, 2018 Brooklyn 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st, Crowder, Mickey

Receive: Butler, Vucevic, 2018 Orlando 1st

Chicago Trade: Butler and Mirotic

Receive: #5, 2018 BOS 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st, Mickey, & Hezonja

Sacramento Trade: #5 & #10

Receive: #3 and Mirotic

Orlando Trade: Vucevic, Hezonja, 2018 ORL 1st

Receive: #10, Crowder, & 2018 Brooklyn 1st

20 Jun 2017 02:11:50
Not enough value for the Kings or Bulls in my opinion. Orlando should just keep their first and the Brooklyn 1st should be going elsewhere.

20 Jun 2017 02:40:00
most delusion trade I've seen.

20 Jun 2017 00:23:07
76ers Off-Season after trading up for #1 pick

- trade Okafor, #36, #46 to Bulls for #16 pick
- trade away #50 for future 2nd round pick
- draft Fultz with 1st overall pick, with 16th C Allen, Adebayo or Giles, with 39th PF Lydon, Motley, Lessort or Oliver
- release Henderson & Long
- resign Splitter (1y 10m) to have veteran presence at frontcourt (or another veteran Center)


Roster 15 Player:
#1Fultz/McConnell/Stauskas/Bayless
Covington/Korkmaz/Luwawu
Simmons/Covington/Anderson
Saric/Holmes/#39
Embiid/#16/Splitter
- develop Embiid, Simmons, Fultz into future big 3 but don't sleep on Saric and Korkmaz as well because both also have All-Star potential
- also keep Covington, McConnell, Holmes around for long time who developed into important player on and off the court (maybe add here Luwawu, Anderson and Stauskas as well)

 
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