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26 May 2016 02:30:31
76ers: Okafor, 24, 26,
Bulls: Jimmy Butler.

26 May 2016 05:04:01
Not enough for Butler.

25 May 2016 01:03:11
76ers / Wizards

I saw this idea on a Wizards site:

1. Wizards sign and trade Beal to sixers for Noel.

Now I'll be the first to admit, value wise, Beal is more valuable then Noel. However, with the sign and trade, Washington gets a good player in return instead of losing Beal and getting nothing. Plus, don't know how Wall will take being the second highest paid guard on his team. And grunfield is high on oubre being his 6'7" shooting guard of the future. Also, Noel may be a piece KD would like in Washington.

2. Sixers / Bulls

Sixers get: Rose
Bulls get: #26 pick

Bulls dump Roses contact and move on. I think a late first is the most they will get for rose at this point.

3. Sixers draft Simmons #1, Malik Beasley #24

Pg: Rose, Ish, McConnell
Sg: Beal, Stauskas, Beasley
Sf: Simmons, Covington, Grant
Pf : Okafor, Saric, Landry
C: Embiid, Okafor, Holmes.

25 May 2016 08:06:41
1- Salaries don't match. Noel is on a rookie deal and Beal will get something around 20 mil/ per year.

Moreover Simmons may play sf yet probably he would be a better pf and at the same time Okafor will be a bad D when played against stretch pf.

25 May 2016 13:53:18
Salaries don't matter since Sixers are wat under cap.

25 May 2016 13:54:06
I like your idea. Wizards could use Noel and freeing up some money would be nice too.

I agree. Bulls can't get more then a late first for rose now.

25 May 2016 14:30:22
Sixers have 40mil in cap think they could take it.

25 May 2016 14:34:59
I like these moves for all parties.

25 May 2016 16:16:26
Just want to point out that it really doesn't matter about what Durant wants cause each night shows that he isn't leaving OKC this year once they make the finals. And I think it might be harder next offseason to get him.

24 May 2016 18:15:26

Chi: Bradley+3# Bender+ 1rnd pick Nets17
Indy: Crowder+ I Thomas+T Gibson+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19
Boston: J Butler+ PGeorge

Sign Horford
C: Olynyk
SF: P George
SG: Butler

C: M Turner
PF:T Gibson
SG: M Ellis
PG: I Thomas

C: Portis/ Bender
PF: Bender/ Mirotic
SF:McDermott/ T Snell
SG:M Beasly/ T Snell
PG:D Rose+Bradley
Draft D Smith and J Jackson in 17.

24 May 2016 19:16:59
I think that these would need to be separate deals. But then I also think that neither of them is enough to get Butler or George.

24 May 2016 19:57:44
So was the garnet and allen trade. I'm an Indy fan and I hate losing George. But I like this Package.

24 May 2016 20:30:59
Yeah but Garnett and Allen were both on the ends of their primes. George and Butler are right in the middle of theirs.

24 May 2016 21:00:52
Boston says NO NO NO!

25 May 2016 00:33:19
comme on, Boston receive two superstars and becomes a contender.

24 May 2016 15:37:30

Bulls get #1pick and okafor and ish smith
Philly get jimmy butler and snell


Bulls get #2pick and Clarkson
Lakers get okafor and dunlevey.

24 May 2016 16:33:34
Lakers say hell no.

24 May 2016 17:14:54
Lakers pass.

24 May 2016 17:47:37
1 and Okafor is too much for butler.

25 May 2016 02:01:31
Butler is a top5 two way player he's worth it. And lakers say yes if we take dunlevy and clarkson deal off but still got to throw it out there.

24 May 2016 13:21:08
Timberwolves plan

Trade: Pick #5, Shabazz Muhammed, Nemanja Bjelica, Gorgui Dieng, Nikola Pekovic and a future first rounder to the Bulls for Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson and Nikola Miritic.

- Joakim Noah: 3 Years, $25 Million
- Luol Deng: 3 Years, $29 Million
- Norris Cole: 2 Years, $9 Million
- Steve Novak: 1 Year, $950k
- Jimmer Fredette: 1 Year, $750k

PG: Ricky Rubio, Norris Cole, Tyus Jones
SG: Jimmy Butler, Zach Lavine, Jimmer Fredette
SF: Andrew Wiggins, Luol Deng, Steve Novak
PF: Karl-Anthony Towns, Nikola Miritic, Adrien Payne
C: Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson, Kevin Garnett.

24 May 2016 14:08:29
Not getting butler for that. Let alone Butler, Gibson and mirotic. Wolves should just sign Noah, draft Murray/ Dunn and call it a day.
PS. Just read an excerpt from a David Khan interview circa 2014. Said he passed on Curry because, and I quote, "I didn't think he'd be ble to get his shot off in the NBA". Can't make it up.
God I hate that guy.

24 May 2016 14:34:41
Winston, Curry also refused to work out for Minnesota.

24 May 2016 14:34:42
You wouldn't get Butler without Wiggins being part of the deal, period.

24 May 2016 15:23:35
@ Carl. Oh yeah, I remember that.

24 May 2016 16:49:59
Triangle, if Bulls want Wiggins as part of a trade, that is all they would get and nothing else.

Personally, I would rather the Wolves keep their young guys and see how Thibs can develop them.

24 May 2016 20:16:14
As a Bulls, fan i'd give you our first rounder along with Butler for Wiggins.

24 May 2016 21:49:57
@DaBulls, yeah but coupled with our pick right?
Butler .
Wouldn't do it. But I'm a no move is better than a bad move kind of guy.

24 May 2016 22:19:33
@Winston, No I would do Butler and #14 for Wiggins straight up if the wolves wanted. Not kidding. Butler is a 1.B player at best. I think Wiggins has potential to be a real 1A in this league.

Maybe some people will criticize me for that but if the bulls make that move tomorrow, i'm more excited for 2016-17 basketball than I was yesterday.

24 May 2016 22:23:40
#5 4 #14, was supposed to be in there.

24 May 2016 01:10:24
Sixers-Wolves-Bulls Draft Trades and Draft:

Sixers trade #1 to Bulls
Bulls trade #14, Butler, Snell to Sixers

Sixers trade Noel, Nik, and #14 to Wolves
Wolves trade #5 to Sixers

With 1st pick Bulls draft Simmons
With 5th pick Sixers draft Henry Ellenson
With 14th pick Wolves draft Wade Baldwin IV

Each team fills positional needs, get young talented players who can shoot, and each acquisition makes each team immediate playoff contenders.

Sixers also trade one of their late picks and Covington to Detroit for Reggie Bullock and Spencer Dinwiddle.

24 May 2016 04:41:26
Bulls say no.

24 May 2016 14:02:30
i think Sixers keep their first. Butler is great though. That kind of package would probably convince them to trade the pick.

23 May 2016 19:58:31
Jazz Get: Jimmy Butler

Bulls Get: Alec Burks, Trey Burke, Trey Lyles, #12, 2018 Unprotected 1st.

23 May 2016 21:55:15
Hood, Exum, Lyles and the picks.

23 May 2016 22:08:51
Good Deal.

23 May 2016 22:29:44
Don't think you get butler without gobert favors or hayward.

23 May 2016 22:30:52
I don't see this being nearly enough to get Butler especially when the Bulls see guys like Exum and Hood on the Jazz roster in addition to their core frontcourt. I think Jazz would have to include at least one of their top assets in order to begin any type of negotiations.

23 May 2016 10:09:28

Chi: Pekovic+ Garnett+ A Wiggins
Minny: J Butler+ T Gibson

C: Portis/ Pekovic
SF: Wiggins
PG: D Rose

draft: Hield
S&T: Rubio for Conley 5Y/ 125m
sign: Whiteside 4Y/ 90m
C:Whiteside/ Dieng
PF: Towns
SF:J Butler
SG: Z LaVine/ Hield
PG: Conley.

23 May 2016 11:19:45
This is terrible, all around.

23 May 2016 12:46:12
terrible for both teams. It rarely happens.

23 May 2016 01:40:06
Magic Offseason


Pacers Trade: P. George, G. Hill

Pacers Get: J. Butler, E. Payton,2018 Lakers 1st, Napier

FA-R. Anderson

Bulls Trade: J. Butler

Bulls Get: N. Vucevic, M. Hezonja, E. Ilyasova,2016 1st,2020 1st

DP- Valentine

Magic Trade: N. Vucevic, E. Payton, M. Hezonja, E. Ilyasova, S. Napier,2016 1st,2018 Lakers Pick,2020 1st

Magic Get: P. George, G. Hill

Free Agency

Save Up 1 Max Slot For Westbrook Next Year

Trade C. Watson For J. Nelson

Draft: #41 Thon Maker, #47 Marcus Paige

Sign: Dwight Howard 4 Yr 100 Mil
Sign: Elliot Williams 2 Yr 3 Mil
Sign: Derrick Williams 3 Yr 18 Mil
Sign: JJ Hickson 1 Yr Vet-Min
Sign: Joey Dorsey 1 Yr 3 Mil
Re-Sign: Evan Fournier 5 Yr 70 Mil
Re-Sign: Dwayne Dedmon 3 Yr 12 Mil
Give Oladipo 5 Year 100 Million Extension

Depth Chart

Hill/ Nelson/ Paige
Oladipo/ Fournier/ E. Williams
George/ D. Williams/ Marble
Gordon/ Maker/ Hickson
Howard/ Dedmon/ Dorsey.

22 May 2016 18:47:36
Bulls Get: Devin Booker, #4 Pick in the draft, Lou Williams

Phoenix gets: #2 pick

Lakers Get: Jimmy Butler.

22 May 2016 19:34:54
I think Bulls would rather have Ingram and Russell for Butler. Not saying that it's enough though.

22 May 2016 20:56:15
Agreed. That is a better package for sure. My thought process with this package is that it gives the bulls:

-A shot at drafting Dunn (which would give them a great back court for the future of Dunn and Booker)

-TREMENDOUS amount of cap space in a highly talented 2017 FA class.

-New players that fit the Fred Regime better.

22 May 2016 21:30:35
I think brown and booker would be worth Butler especially if you Wanna rebuild. Russell and Ingram to much. Russell and Ingram should get you George.

22 May 2016 22:35:10
Lou William and the number two pick will not get you butler. Try adding Russell and the number two and you'll get their attention.

22 May 2016 22:41:49
TreGib, While I agree with you that the laker package lacks the value that many proposed trades have had, this is not a 1 for 1 trade.

The Suns acquire the #2 pick from LA which they desire, and thus provide even more value to Chicago along with Williams.

Lou WIlliams is simply for Cap purposes rather than value.

Having said that if I could redo this trade I would probably give an LA second to Chicago or perhaps Larry Nance.

22 May 2016 14:39:53
bulls and 76ers

Jimmy butler for #1 overall pick and Okafor.

22 May 2016 15:46:56
Now that's crazy . Okafor and Simmons for J. Butler;

Even J. Butler would say that is ridiculous.

22 May 2016 15:51:55
Simmons and Noel i think is a better package for both teams.

22 May 2016 16:30:35
Okafor being from Chicago this trade makes a ton of sense. I think jimmy butler is overrated however. I love him but he's not Paul goerge he's not lebron. He's not Durant.

That being said. This is my max for butler.

I look at it like. To get Paul goerge it would take the first pick and Okafor and maybe the lakers pick. It's hard to justify that price for.

22 May 2016 13:41:28
Okafor Saric Covington Lal first and kings first (2018) for Jimmy Butler and Dunleavy

Sixers draft Simmons
Offer Max to Derozen
Find a Point Guard.

22 May 2016 14:59:27
Worst shooting team in the league. Who could possibly be a 3pt threat?

22 May 2016 15:16:32
Overpay, the 76ers hold all the cards due to the fact butlers bulls will never win a title.

22 May 2016 21:25:23
76ers don't hold the cards, because there are 20+ teams that would love to have butler. You will have to pay to get him, and the price will be high.

22 May 2016 12:17:07

Philly: J Butler
Chi: D Cousins+ Belinelli
Sac: Okafor+ T Gibson

Philly- Atlanta
Philly: Teague+ future first round
Atlanta: Saric+ Landry

Draft: Simmons
Sign: Batum

C: Noel
SF: Batum
Sg: J Butler
PG: Teague.

22 May 2016 14:02:16
Sixers would have to add their 1st to Sacramento because it is ridiculous that they get Butler for just Okafor.

23 May 2016 01:36:16
Hard Pass Kings

More realistic same players- Kings Butler Okafor, Phi: Belinelli Gibson, Chi Cousins.

Not saying it is realistic but more realistic.

21 May 2016 23:41:49

Trade: Monroe, MCW, #10
Recieve: Rose, Korver, Splitter

Test out Rose as a pg for one year and let him go next summer if it doesn't work out or resign him if it does. Get a great shooter and veteren defensive center.

Rose/ Ennis
Middleton/ Korver
Giannis/ Vaughn
Parker/ Henson
Splitter/ Plumlee

Trade: Rose, Butler
Recieve: Schroder, Millsap, Monroe, MCW, #10

Get younger and deeper. Potentially trade 10 and 14 to move up.

#10 Poeltl
#14 Luwawu

Schroder/ MCW
Snell/ Luwawu/ Dunleavy
Mirotic/ McDermot
Millsap/ Portis
Monroe/ Poeltl

Trade:Schroder, Millsap, Splitter, Korver

Resign Horford, Bazemore, Humphries
Sign Howard, Vet PG

#21Demetrius Jackson

Teague/ FA/ Jackson
Bazemore/ Hardaway
Butler/ Sefolosha/ Patterson
Horford/ Scott/ Muscala
Howard/ Humphries/ Tavares.

22 May 2016 02:25:30
Bucks say hell no. Rose isn't worth a #10 especially when as you point out its a 1yr rental. If he plays well (when they actually would want to resign him) he can still leave them for nothing.

22 May 2016 02:50:11
Bucks getting crapped on.

21 May 2016 07:31:55

Trade Rose, Mirotic
Recieve Teague, Splitter, Hardaway, McLemore

Resign Gasol

#14 Demetrius Jackson

Teague/ Jackson
McLemore/ Hardaway/ Dunleavy
Butler/ McDermot/ Snell
Gibson/ Portis
Gasol/ Splitter

Trade Gay, McLemore
Recieve Rose, Mirotic

#8 Jaylen Brown

Rose/ Collison
Brown/ Curry
Casspi/ FA
Mirotic/ WCS
Cousins/ Koufos

Trade Teague, Splitter, Hardaway
Recieve Gay

Resign Horford, Bazemore, Humphries

#21 Malik Beasley

Schroder/ FA/ Hinrich
Bazemore/ Korver/ Beasley
Gay/ Sefolosha/ Patterson
Millsap/ Scott/ Muscala
Horford/ Humphries/ Tavares.

23 May 2016 01:46:11
Hawks don't do it.

20 May 2016 16:10:31
*Alot of crazy and thoughtless deals being tossed around here on the sight for the Celtics. I believe there will be George, Anthony, Cousins, Okafor, or Durant's etc. coming to town here in Boston.

My Ideas for Celtics Most Realistic Off-season Moves for '16-'17.

-Revisit a Trade with Chicago between Lottery Night and Draft Night.
*No J. Crowder in deal. *

Chicago Gets : -Nets 2016,2018 1st Rnd. picks
Dallas 2016 1nd. pick,2016 2nd Rnd. Miami pick
-A. Bradley, K. Olynyk, A. Johnson, J. Young

Boston Gets: -J. Butler, T. Gibson

*Draft Night Targets: Celts possibly may or may not choose to try to Draft-Up in 1st Rnd. for D. Valentine, B. Johnson, or M. Chriss.
All depends if D. A. and Co. can pull off a blockbuster trade for an All-Star.
My personal favorite Draft editions that would greatly benefit the Team are D. Valentine and A. J. Hammons

*1stRnd. (1-maybe 2 picks made)
My preferences in order if they are available.

#1-D. Valentine SG/ SF
#2-B. Johnson PF-or-
#3-M. Chriss PF-or-
#4-A. J. Hammons C/ PF

*2nd. Rnd. (3-5 picks made)

#1-T. Maker PF/ C
#2-J. Blossengame SF/ SG
#3-K. Felder PG
#4-A. Zizic C -or- I. Zubac C * (Draft and Stash)
#5-J. Uthoff PF

-E. Turner -Hometown Discount 4yr/ $35M
-J. Jerebko -Guarantee His 1yr/ $5M
-A. Johnson -Guarantee His 1yr/ $12M

*Sign FA:
-H. Whiteside -4yr/ $85M

*Let Sullinger, Zeller Sign Elsewhere.
Holland and Clarke Released.


PG: I. Thomas M. Smart T. Rozier-or-
K. Felder

SG: J. Butler D. Valentine-or- R. J. Hunter-or-
E. Turner J. Blossengame

SF: J. Crowder E. Turner-or- J. Blossengame-or-
J. Blossengame J. Uthoff

PF: T. Gibson J. Jerebko J. Mickey-or-
B. Johnson-or-
M. Chriss-or-
J. Uthoff

C : H. Whiteside A. J. Hammon T. Maker-or-
A. Zizic-or-
I. Zubac (Draft n'Stash)

*Injury pending;Team should improve to a 55+ win Conference Contender and about $10M under new Salary Cap.

20 May 2016 20:15:40
Looks a successful offseason to me. Definitely a competitive squad with plenty of young players so will only improve with time.

20 May 2016 20:33:25
No way zubac and zizic last til the second both could go on the middle of the 1st.

20 May 2016 22:19:44
I would be very, very surprised if Okafor becomes a Celtic.

21 May 2016 00:56:40
phillyrich1 I agree don't think Okafor is a great fit. Rumor has it they sent some trade offers for him at the deadline so maybe there is some interest however its probably just Ainge trying to low ball the hell out of them.

20 May 2016 19:17:54
Kings-M. hezonja (kings tried to draft him last year )

Bulls - 8 pick ( rose replacement dunn)

Magic-T ariza (veteran player for a young team

Houston 14 pick and B portis.

20 May 2016 19:31:54
No way Orlando trades Hezonjia for Ariza.

20 May 2016 20:35:41
Kings not getting hezonja for that.

20 May 2016 22:17:03
Average veterans are available in free agency. No need to give up one of your best young assets for one. Makes no sense for Orlando to do this and Rockets getting way too much for Ariza. Due to Arizas contract they'd probably have to give assets up for a team to take him.

20 May 2016 22:44:39
Hezonja Is Young And Underrated, He Is Probably The Magic's Closest To Being Untouchable Other Than Gordon.

20 May 2016 22:58:23
I didn"t think that hezonja was that productive last year. Ariza is underrated obviously.

21 May 2016 00:52:20
Of course he wasn't very productive last year he was a 19 year old rookie the days of rookies coming in and making a huge impact are dying his potential it's very high that's y he's worth more than ariza.

21 May 2016 01:41:06
How is Mario and Gordon untouchable? They have done nothing. Well. At least Gordon dunked. Seriously. You are high.

23 May 2016 01:49:24
I agree Ariza for Hejonja doesn't work but Kings shouldn't give up more than 8 for him. Certainly not writing him off but he has a 9 per- untouchable? You are crazy. Orlando fans almost as delusional as LAL or NY.

20 May 2016 03:17:40
Rebuilding and Retooling Process

76ers / Bulls / Suns / RFA Signings

76ers / Bulls

C: J. Okafor (PF/ C)
**: 2016 #26-OKC
**: 2017 LAL Protected #1-#3/ 2-3 years left
**: 2017 PHL Protected #1-#3/ 4-Years
SF: J. Grant (Swing 3/ 4) Love His Development


SG: J. Butler

**: P. Gasol - GONE
**: J. Noah - Resign

PF: N. Noel
SF: R. Covington


PG: E. Bledsoe or B. Knight

PG: B. Knight or E. Bledsoe; O'Connell
SG: J. Butler/ Staukus/ H. Thompson
C: J. Embid/ S. Zimmerman (UNLV) @ #24
SF: H. Barnes/ Simmons
PF: B. Simmons (LSU) @ #1/ D. Saric/ R. Holmes
*76ers: RFA Signing
SF: H. Barnes @ 4-Years $90.5M

PG: D. Rose (Resign) / Bulls 1st Rd. Pick #?
SG: T. Snell/ M. Beasley (FSU) @#26-76ers/ Gordon
C: Okafor/ J. Noah
SF: D. McDermott/ T. Gibson/ Snell
PF: Milo'/ B. Portis/ J. Grant
*Bulls: UFA Signing
SG: E. Gordon @ 4-Years (4th-Team Option) $32M

PG: B. Knight or E. Bledsoe
SG: D. Booker/ E. Turner/ J. Sampson
C: T. Chandler/ A. Len
PF: N. Noel/ Len/ H. Ellerson (Marquette) @ #13
SF: J. Brown @ #5/ R. Covington/ T. Warren
**: @ #28 International Stash or Drop to 2nd
*Suns: UFA Signing
G: Evan Turner/ Sign-UFA @ 5-Year $50-$60M

NOTE: As the Salary Cap RiSEs, Most Mid
Level Players will be OVER PAID!

If Cleveland's
Tristan Thompson can get a 4 Years
$82M Contact . Then Barnes will get
a minimum 4-Years @ $90 (Much More
Skilled/ Higher Ceiling) ; Golden State
can't pay all the top Warriors once
Steph get his $25-$30M in 2017.

20 May 2016 17:08:48
McConnell, not O'Connell.

19 May 2016 17:31:13
Bulls/ Kings

Kings trade: Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, 8th pick, 59th pick, lift the protections from next years pick

Bulls trade: Jimmy Butler and Doug McDermott

Bulls can move on from unhappy butler (if reports are true) with a good to great scorer with Rudy, some potential in McLemore, the 8th pick this year which according to lots of Mocks, Kris dunn will be there, with rose on his last year of the contract. They also shed tons of salary considering Rudy only has 2 years 24 mil left on his deal And the 2nd is a player option. Butler alone has 37 mil for two years, and will be looking for a big payday in 2 years.

Kings get rid of any future picks that they still had, in hopes of getting the playoffs in Golden 1 Center. Jimmy butler is the type of player that Demarcus needs next to him, a guy that. can slash, shoot, pass, and mostly defend the perimeter. McDermott would probably take the starting 3 spot by default unless Dave Joerger prefers Casspi (haha)!

23 May 2016 01:56:10
This could work- I think it is either 59 OR lift protection. If Kings are worse than the protection the trade was a bust.

19 May 2016 12:55:11

Minn gets Jimmy Butler

Chicago gets Ricky Rubio, Shabbaz Muhammad, and either D. Rudez or Adrain Payne.

Option #2

Chicago gets pick #5, Shabbaz Muhammad, and Pekovic.

19 May 2016 13:10:30
Neither is anywhere near enough for butler.

19 May 2016 13:18:55
Chicago's not trading Butler for Rubio, or the #5. The #5 and Rubio won't get you butler. The #5, Rubio, shabazz, Adrienne Payne and Dajmon Rudez won't get you Butler. The rubes in Chicago don't even want a Wiggins for butler trade to go down without the #5, and the rubes in Minny would revolt over a Wiggins and #5 for Butler deal. Butlers not coming here.
BTW adding the last two players off the bench of a 29 win team actually hurts any deal.

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