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23 Oct 2016 18:31:58
Chi: LMA
Tor: Mirotic
Spurs: T Ross/ T Gibson+ Portis+ 1rnd pick Sac+ 1rnd pick Chi.

23 Oct 2016 19:31:28
Not enough for the spurs, Chicago gets too much.

20 Oct 2016 22:35:50
Bulls trades Taj Gibson, MCW and the SAC pick

SAC trades Cauley-Stein, Bellineli, and Casspi


Cauley-Stein (ease into starting big position)

The Bulls will have:

*Added shooters (Bellineli, Casspi)
*Improved shot blocking (WCS)
* Adds speed and length in frontcourt
*No bad contract taken back
*No loss of picks (SAC's own pick)
*Keeps youth

20 Oct 2016 23:32:34
Bellenelli on char.

21 Oct 2016 21:21:01
Sac says no with or without Belinelli being on the team.

19 Oct 2016 03:05:28

BOS get Jimmy Butler

CHI get LaMarcus Aldridge and Jae Crowder

SAS get Amir Johnson, Nikola Mirotic and BKN 1st 2017.

19 Oct 2016 03:39:21
To much for Aldrich imo.

19 Oct 2016 05:51:22
Chicago doesn't give up enough. Gets crowder and lamarcus Aldridge for butler and mirotic? Be real.

19 Oct 2016 08:21:52
I like this trade

Butler is a good fit in Boston

Crowder is a chepa replacement for Butler and LMA would be great in Chicago.

And the spurs can rebuilt. Not the ideal scenario for Ginobili and P Gasol, but Mirotic is a descent replacement for a one year rental.
They could sign B Griffin and Noel next year and draft J Jackson or D Smith

C:P Gasol/ Noel
PF:B Griffin/ D Lee
Sf: K Leonard/ K Anderson
SG: J Jackson/ D Green
PG: T Parker/ Mills/ Murray.

19 Oct 2016 10:07:43
Hold up kg91
If chicago doesn't give up enough, who cares
As long as everyone gets good returns then all is well.

19 Oct 2016 13:56:16
SAS care. They get a better offer if they do a solo trade with boston. that's how it works, if one team gives up too little, logic dictates one team receives too little.

19 Oct 2016 15:05:45
Spurs are not going to sell short on LMA just because he feels like he should play a bigger role in the offense, nor are they going to rebuild this year with Gasol and Manu on board.

19 Oct 2016 19:24:25
Oh and this is a genius trade. The only rhing that is potentially stopping it is San Antonio as they would stuggle to transition into a rebuilding team. They could do something like this

Pau Gasol and 2017 1st round for Bradley Beal
because john wall and bradley beal have chemistry issues
Danny Green and 2019 1st round for Nikola Vucevic
because of orlando's loaded front court
Trade Mirotic and Johnson who will be free agents for a young power forward like Sabonis (depending on how he performs)
Flip Tony Parker and as many picks as needed (excluding brooklyn pick) to get another high draft pick.
In the draft, take a point guard like dennis smith or markelle fultz to replace parker with the brooklyn pick (assuming it will be very high) . With the pick from the tony parker trade try and take another young power forward like ivan rabb (assuming the pick will be about there) to build depth at that position

San Antonio 2017-18 projected roster
PG Dennis Smith/ Patty Mills (try and resign, if not sign other mid level exception point guard) / Dejounte Murray
SG Bradley Beal/ Manu Ginobili (may be retired) / Jonothan Simmons*
SF Kawhi Leonard/ Kyle Anderson/ Davis Bertans*
PF Domantas Sabonis/ Ivan Rabb/ David Lee*
C Nikola Vucevic/ Dewayne Dedmon*/ Joel Anthony*
*will most likely be replaced with other minimum wage player.

18 Oct 2016 23:54:34
BOS get: Aldridge, Barton

Thomas/ rozier
Bradley/ smart
Barton/ Brown
Aldridge/ jerebko/ Mickey
Horford/ olynyk/ zeller

Denver get: Mills, Gerald Green,2nd round Boston

Bulls get:Danny Green, Crowrder, Brooklyn pick 2017,Spurs 1st 2017

Rondo/ MCW
Wade/ D. Green
Crowder/ McDermott
Gibson/ mirotic/ little
Lopez/ felicio

Spurs get: Butler, Amir johnson

Parker/ Murray
Butler/ Ginobili
Leonard/ simmons/ anderson
Amir Johnson/ Lee
Gasol/ Dedmond.

18 Oct 2016 11:15:49
Bulls trade jimmy butler and taj gibson jerian ggrant for ryan anderson trevor ariza and eric gordon.

18 Oct 2016 12:24:06
Are you reallya Bulls fan?

18 Oct 2016 14:19:45
Well instead of jimmy trade dwade.

18 Oct 2016 07:18:01

CHI get Gordon Hayward and BKN 1st 2017

BOS get Jimmy Butler

UTA get Jae Crowder, Jordan Mickey and BOS 1st 2018

who says no?

Bulls get a very good fit alongside Wade and Rondo and a pick from BKN which would be very good. BOS get another star while UTA get a good return in case Hayward leaves. Maybe more going to CHI from BOS

Pg Rondo/ MCW
Sg Wade/ Valentine
Sf Hayward/ McDermott
Pf Mirotic/ Gibson
Ce Lopez/ Portis

Pg Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Green
Sf Butler/ Brown
Pf Horford/ Olynyk
Ce Johnson/ Zeller

Pg Hill/ Exum
Sg Hood/ Burks
Sf Crowder/ Johnson
Pf Favors/ Lyles/ Mickey
Ce Gobert/ Diaw.

18 Oct 2016 08:55:38

18 Oct 2016 08:55:38

18 Oct 2016 09:03:38
Utah says no. The celtics would do it and I think the bulls would although it's not great for them. They would have two veteran starting guards in the 30s and now a young small forward and future pick. If you want to win championships you have to commit to rebuilding or pushing for a finals spot.

18 Oct 2016 12:00:54
I like this for all teams

Hayward is a downgrade over Butler, but he's a better fit and the Brooklyn pick makes it a good trade for them
Utah receive a cheaper player and a future draft pick. This is a great return if Hayward wants out.
And Boston recieve the star they need.

18 Oct 2016 05:35:08
Boston sends - Jae Crowder, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, Jaylen Brown, Kelly Olynyk, James Young
Boston receives - Demarcus Cousins, Gordon Hayward
Sacramento sends - Demarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay, 2017 worst pick out of Philly/ Sac protected if Sacramento have to convey their pick to Chicago (if it is outside top 10). In that case Sacramento convey their 2020 1st round pick Utah.
Sacramento receives - Jae Crowder, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, Jaylen Brown, 2017 Brooklyn 1st pick swap, 2018 Brooklyn 1st
Utah sends - Gordon Hayward
Utah receives - Rudy Gay, Kelly Olynyk, 2017 worst pick out of Philly/ Sac protected if Sacramento have to convey their pick to Chicago (if it is outside top 10). In that case Sacramento convey their 2020 1st round pick Utah.
Denver sends - Will Barton
Denver receives - James Young, 2019 Los Angeles C 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st

This trade focuses on Boston getting better so I'm only going to do Boston's depth for now. Checked on NBA Trade Machine.
Boston -
PG Isaiah Thomas, Terry Rozier, Demetrius Jackson
SG Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, Gerald Green, RJ Hunter
SF Gordon Hayward, Will Barton, Abdel Nader
PF Al Horford, Jordan Mickey, Ben Bentil
C Demarcus Cousins, Tyler Zeller

Boston have a couple more 1st round picks and lots of seconds if anybody thinks one team is getting a rip off that they could easily add.

18 Oct 2016 15:53:29
Yeah there is no way that the Celtics are trading 5 rotation players as well as 4 1st round picks for those three players.

Hayward is an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season and plenty of teams will be on his pursuit.

Barton is nothing special at all and only looked special because Denver had no one to score for them.

Cousins, while he is the best center in the game he is still a head case and could potential destroy the team and what we have built.

19 Oct 2016 09:59:18
well i suppose boston could do this on the basis an extension is signed prior.

14 Oct 2016 21:26:03
Bulls/ Spurs

To CHI - Danny Green

To SAS - Taj Gibson

This one's simple, Bulls need shooting, Spurs are thin at the 4/ 5. Salaries work as well.

15 Oct 2016 13:49:50
That's a great trade for Chicago
But i think the spurs could find a defensive player in Europe and keep Green.

14 Oct 2016 03:54:15
Chicago-LA Clippers blockbuster

Bulls acquire Chris Paul and Blake Griffin

C. Paul
D. Wade
D. McDermott
B. Griffin
R. Lopez

Clippers acquire Jimmy Butler, Rajon Rondo and Nikola Mirotic

R. Rondo
J. Reddick
J. Butler
N. Mirotic
D. Jordan

* trade for better fit.

14 Oct 2016 09:11:39
Chicago should also give first rounder.

14 Oct 2016 09:37:12
Bulls say no because Paul will leave in free agency if because he wants to contend for a championship, and the bulls are in a worse situation than the clippers. And if paul is leaving where does griffin's future lie? He'll probably go home to the Thunder or somewhere else like the Celtics. Why would he return to Chicago to a team without a decent point guard, a Dwayne Wade who is declining at a fast rate and nobody else.

14 Oct 2016 13:32:06
I know this is far fetched, but would Paul leave, or would he stay and the Bulls become the team that forms the Super Friends?

If it goes real bad in NY this year, which it very well could, would the Knicks be willing to reset and move Melo to Chicago for rebuilding assets. After that, while I see the biggest obstacle being James agreeing to follow in MJ's footsteps, 3/ 4 of the team is already there.

11 Oct 2016 20:12:14
Taj Gibson and a future 2nd rd swap


Kyler Korver



2nd Unit


Shooting lineup


11 Oct 2016 20:54:27
Bulls could definitely use a shooter. Gibson however is a solid veteran big so don't really love the value but the fit makes sense. Don't think Bulls need to give up a 2nd.

13 Oct 2016 21:57:02
Its a pick swap

11 Oct 2016 20:12:14
Taj Gibson and a future 2nd rd swap


Kyler Korver



2nd Unit


Shooting lineup


11 Oct 2016 14:44:27

Boston: D Cousins+ J Butler

Philly: I Thomas

Sac: J Brown+ Smart+ a Johnson+ 1rnd pick LA+ return swap 17+ return 1rnd pick 19

Chi: R Gay+ 1rnd pick Nets 17 (swap) + 1rnd pick Nets 18

C: D Cousins/ Olynyk
PF:Horford/ Olynyk
SF: Crowder/ Green
SG: J Butler/ Hunter
PG: Bradley/ Rozier.

11 Oct 2016 16:12:34
Cmon dude. Sac and chi pass big time.

11 Oct 2016 16:29:13
This is more of a personal preference. I

think philly passes. It's too much to give up for Thomas.

We're talking maybe three high firsts for a guy who is under 5'10 and is ball dominate. We have Ben Simmons and he once healthy will be the ball dominate player on this team. So I'd rather have the firsts and use them to draft a sg and sf who can shoot to go with Embiid and Simmons.

11 Oct 2016 23:22:11
Philly is the only team that could pass
But it isn't that much, they give up

The LA pick could go top three this year, so they can only receive it in 2018. LA has a good young core, they can draft another great prospect and they can hit the free agent market next year, so that pick, could become a late lottery pick, or a late first rounder.
Philly could get a higher pick than sacramento, so they wouldn't swap next years pick.
In that case, they could receive an All star for a late first rounder and a late lottery pick. that's a gamble they could take.

Chicago receive two top picks and Gay is a cheap rental, they receive capspace next year.

Sacramento can rebuilt and has a future again.

12 Oct 2016 06:20:58
Why would bulls sign wade and rondo and then trade butler so they can rebuild?

10 Oct 2016 18:36:05
Jazz - Bledsoe, Butler.

Bulls - Favors, Hood.

Suns - Exum, Jazz 17 1st, Noel.

Sixers - Knight.

10 Oct 2016 19:37:36
Suns don't even laugh.

11 Oct 2016 02:24:19
No from the Bulls.

11 Oct 2016 06:10:19
As much as I like Jimmy Butler, I actually think that Chicago should take that trade.

11 Oct 2016 11:44:11
this would be a smart trade for Chicago, but i think they say no.

09 Oct 2016 21:52:40
I really think that this trade should happen

Bucks, Pelicans, Bulls

Bucks get Jimmy Butler and Omer Asik

Pelicans get Greg Monroe and MCW

Bulls get Tyreke Evans and Jabari Parker.

10 Oct 2016 00:14:09
As a bucks fan i don't like it. it doesn't fix our problem of a lack of outside shooting. although it does improve our overall defense, there are better trades out there that we can trade parker for.

10 Oct 2016 02:01:45
I love it for the Bucks and Pelicans but don't think that is enough for Bulls. I think all along Bulls should've dealt Butler for younger assets but after Rondo and Wade signings I'm not sure how willing they are to do so this season.

09 Oct 2016 12:47:51

Philly: Knight
Charl: Noel+ Chriss+ T chandler
Chi: Batum+ 1rnd pick Miami 18
Phoe: J Butler+ M Williams.

09 Oct 2016 14:24:21
Bulls say not a chance.

09 Oct 2016 20:20:24
Why on earth would Chicago do that deal?

10 Oct 2016 00:12:55
I think everyone says no to that.

10 Oct 2016 13:16:48

Sixers say yes. Phoenix absolutely says yes.

Charlotte no way and Chicago no way.

09 Oct 2016 11:10:58

Chi: Farried+ Gallinari+ 1rnd pick Nets 17 (Boston swap)
Denver: D Cousins+ T Gibson
Bos:J Butler
Sac: Smart+ J Brown+ a Johnson+ Memphis pick 17 (from Denver)

09 Oct 2016 12:00:15
No doubt Butler is a good player I don't see C's give all that for him I think they will stay the course maybe make a run at Hayward free agency.

09 Oct 2016 12:42:46
They only give up one Nets pick and J Brown
They don't need Smart (Bradley/ I Thomas/ Rozier)
A Johnson is a good rollplayer, but expendable.

And Horford is already 30 y old. If they want to win now, they need a star.
Maybenver could also give Nurkic.

C: Nurkic/ Olynyk
PF: Horford/ Jerebko
SF: Crowder/ Green
SG: J Butler/ Bradley
PG: I Thomas/ Bradley/ Rozier
Butler: All2 def 1
Horford: All 3
I Thomas: all star
Bradley: Sixth Man.

10 Oct 2016 18:19:01
you think butler is all nba 2nd team? Remind me again which of these hell do better than:

Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Lillard, Thompson, Lowry, Harden, Irving?

He would need to be better than 5 of those. Good luck with that one.

No clue how Horford all of a sudden has the best year of his career to make his first all nba team. he's been in decline for the last 2-3 years, albeit a slight one. so now you think he is going to transform at 30 and have the best year of his career? Not likely.

07 Oct 2016 08:42:38
Indy- Bulls

Bulls: P george
Indy: J Butler+ Mcdermott+ Valentine+1rnd pick 17

Who would win this trade?

07 Oct 2016 14:09:22
I don't know that anyone "wins" it per se, I think it's a pretty even deal.

07 Oct 2016 15:48:45
Bulls win since jimmy butler plays the same spot as wade this gives their line up more balance.

But it's even value wise.

07 Oct 2016 21:13:56
I think Pacers win. Bulls aren't going anywhere even with George so giving up some young assets hurts them. Pacers add some depth and youth to an already solid team.

05 Oct 2016 03:11:50

CHI gets Stokes
DEN gets two 2nd round picks

Why CHI:
They need a backup big man and Stokes is a good young option that is blocked in Denver

Why DEN:
Stokes has no real spot in Denver as of right now so if they can get picks for him they should do it since the 2017 draft is suppose to be so deep that you can grab great talent in the 2nd round so why not try to add another oportunity to add great young talent at a little cost.

Rondo/ Grant
Wade/ Snell
Butler/ McDermott/ Valentine
Gibson/ Portis/ Mirotic
Lopez/ Stokes

What do you guys think?

05 Oct 2016 07:15:26
Stokes? You mean Jarnell? The one on MEM?

05 Oct 2016 07:15:26
Stokes? You mean Jarnell? The one on MEM?

05 Oct 2016 15:33:39
he is on the Nuggets.

03 Oct 2016 16:54:56
Sacramento-Phoe- Chi

Sac: J Butler+ B Knight

Phoe: D Cousins

Chi: R Gay+ Bender+ McLemore+ 1rnd pick Miami 18

C: WC Stein
PF: Labissiere
SF: Butler
SG: Aflallo
Pg: B Knigth

c: Cousins
PF: Chriss
SF: Warren
SG: Booker
Pg: Bledsoe

C: Lopez/ Portis
PF: Mirotic/ Bender
SF: Gay/ McDermott
SG: Wade/ Valentine/ McLemore
PG: Rondo/ Grant.

02 Oct 2016 10:23:50
Chi: A Davis
LA: J Butler
NO: Ingram+ Russell+ Calderon+ Portis+ Mirotic

C: Lopez
PF: A Davis
SF: Valentine
SG: Wade
PG: Rondo
sixth: McDermott

C: Morgov
PF: Randle
SF: Nance
SG: J Butler
PG: Clarckson
sixth: L Williams

C: Asik/ Portis
PF: Mirotic/ Cunningham
SF:L Stephenson/ Ingram/ S Hill
SG: B Hield/ T Evans
PG: Russell/ Holiday/ Calderon.

02 Oct 2016 12:19:15
LA says hell no.

02 Oct 2016 16:04:23
why are you disagreeing? two 2nd picks for Butler?

02 Oct 2016 16:42:28
Butler is a star, he's good in both ends. Great scorer and a top defender.
LA has still capspace for two big contracts (if the cap go's up again) . Butler can bring those other stars to LA.
I believe Ingram and Russell wil become all stars, but they haven't proven anything yet. LA isn't a good place for young talents, that team need stars. So they can develop quietly in NO.

02 Oct 2016 20:07:53
Butler won't lure big name free agents alone, Clarkson and Randle will be above average starters but Deng/ Mozgov will eat cap aswell. LA should stay the course.

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