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22 Jan 2018 07:06:30
Cleveland Receive: D.Howard, J. Johnson

Charlotte Receive:R Rubio, R Lopez, I. Shumpert, C.Frye , R Hood, C Osman, 2018 Utah 1st round pick, 2020 Miami 2nd rounder pick

Utah Receive: N. Mirotic, K Walker

Chicago Receive: T.Thompson, N. Batum, 2018 Cleveland 1st round pick

22 Jan 2018 07:49:46
Bulls both 2018 1st they’re giving away niko n rolo who both are doing very great so far worth it.

22 Jan 2018 06:05:40

Hornets get Ricky Rubio, Nikola Mirotic, Rodney Hood, Quincy Pondexter
Pg. Rubio, MCW, Stone
Sg. Hood, Monk, Bacon
Sf. MKG, Lamb, Graham
Pf. Mirotic, Kaminsky, Pondexter
C. Howard, Zeller, O'Bryant

Jazz get Kemba Walker, Marvin Williams, and Justin Holiday
Pg. Walker, Neto, Exum
Sg. Mitchell, Holiday, Burks
Sf. Ingles, Johnson, O'Neal
Pf. Williams, Jerebko
C. Gobert, Udoh, Bradley

Bulls get Nic Batum, Derrick Favors, Jazz 2018 1st, and a future 2nd rd pick (via Jazz)
Pg. Dunn, Grant, Payne
Sg. LaVine, Nwaba
Sf. Batum, Valentine, Zipser
Pf. Markannen, Portis,
C. Lopez, Favors, Felicio.

19 Jan 2018 16:04:33
Hornets - Knicks

Hornets gets:
2019 1st (Top 3 protected)
2018 2nd Bulls

Knicks gets:

19 Jan 2018 16:37:39
What do the Hornets need with Noah?

19 Jan 2018 17:08:18
Thought about the same trade. Knicks might have to add a second 1st because the Noah contract is really bad.

19 Jan 2018 17:38:30
Charlotte can get a better return for Walker.

19 Jan 2018 17:43:58
Unfortunately, the Knicks in order to retain draft picks, should hang on to Noah at least until summer. Maybe even through next season. Picks have Value like never before. Need those to build around Porzingis. Especially for a possible fringe playoff team.

18 Jan 2018 05:51:44

cavs trade tristan thompson & cavs 2018 first round pick

bulls trade robin lopez

they both got a bad contracts

plus bulls wanted a first round pick order to take that deal

18 Jan 2018 06:11:26
It's not a lopsided CAVS benefit trade, but I think it's an overpay for Lopez. Lopez next contract is likely a Vet. Min. Thompson is younger, and players are a lot better coming out of the draft these days, so CAVS should keep their 1st. The savings on money isn't going to matter when James leaves.

18 Jan 2018 15:01:40
This is the first overpay by the Cavs I've seen. I like Lopez a lot, but there's not really anything he does that Thompson doesn't do. You're pretty much just saving the $4 mil for a year, and the contract ends a year early. If LeBron does in fact leave this offseason, they're going to be rebuilding anyway. Love and Thompson's contracts both have two years left, so you're not going on a spending spree until those two contracts are up. Keep the pick, get young assets over the next couple of years, probably bottom-ish out for two years without LeBron, and try to bring in some vets when those contracts are up.

17 Jan 2018 17:55:11

•76ers get Justin Holiday and Cam Payne
(Improves 2nd unit wings)
Pg. Simmons, McConnell, Payne
Sg. Redick, Fultz, Korkmaz
Sf. Covington, Holiday, Luwawu
Pf. Saric, Booker
C. Embiid, Johnson, Holmes

•Bulls get Jerryd Bayless, Justin Anderson, and 2 2nd rd picks.

17 Jan 2018 18:30:47
Mirotic, Lopez, maybe Grant are available for possible deals. 2 second round picks for those guys seems unrealistic for both teams.

17 Jan 2018 21:05:11
Bulls wants 1st not 2nds.

17 Jan 2018 21:08:17
Look up Justin Holiday, he's been playing good and has been a solid 3&D wing.

16 Jan 2018 19:26:58

•Celtics get Justin Holiday (use Hayward exception)
-Improves 2nd unit and major upgrade over Abdel Nader
Pg. Irving, Rozier
Sg. Brown, Smart
Sf. Tatum, Holiday
Pf. Morris, Theis
C. Horford, Baynes

•Bulls get 2018 2nd and 2019 1st from Boston
-Get good value for Holiday and some picks for rebuild.

17 Jan 2018 00:18:52
Bulls are under the cap and there for must take matching salary back on any trade.

17 Jan 2018 05:12:16
Problem with the C's is that they either have highly paid players who are good enough to be worth the money, or they have low paid players who are either part of their long term plans (Brown, Tatum), or are not pieces who don't make enough to allow a salary match deal. They're either going to need to use their DPE with a team over the cap, or make a blockbuster that includes Horford.

18 Jan 2018 14:22:23
I don't see any kind of blockbuster happening with Boston. At this point, you'd have to give up too much for a top flight player, and it would wind up being a net negative. Davis is fantastic, but I don't think I'd move Horford, Brown, the Lakers/ Kings pick and more draft capital for him. None of those individuals are better than Davis, but combined they're worth more. We've seen him try to play with a couple of good teammates. it's not enough. Granted, Hayward Kyrie and Tatum are probably better than Holiday and Cousins, but still. Brown, Horford and whoever the pick translates to are at least two, and possibly three all stars.

I do see them using the exception, but I don't see players moving in return. I think they'll target Tyreke with a 1st rounder, or they'll wait it out for the buyout market.

16 Jan 2018 10:11:15

UTA: N.Mirotic + S.Hill + 2nd round pick NOLA + 2nd from CHI
- Hill making 12million dollar is not that expensive, he can be a fine fit in Utah once he gets healthy same thing with Mirotic, Utah is not in need of Hood with the rise of D.Mitchell

PG: Rubio, Neto, Exum
SG: Mitchell, Burks
SF: Ingles, Hill
PF: Mirotic, Jerebko
CE: Gobert, Udoh

CHI: D.Favors + 1st round pick NOLA (lottery protected)
- add a 1st rd pick and continue the rebuild

PG: Dunn, Grant
SG: LaVine, Holiday
SF: Valentine, Zipser
PF: Markannen, Portis
CE: Lopez, Favors

NOLA: R.Hood
- they are in need of wings, giving up a 1st and a 2nd to bring in someone like Hood who could be a perfect fit wouldn't be a bad move

PG: Rondo, Nelson
SG: Holiday, Moore, Clark
SF: Hood, Liggins, Miller
PF: Davis, Cunningham, Diallo
CE: Cousins, Asik, Ajinca

17 Jan 2018 06:18:59
Utah should give up a first as well to chi.

16 Jan 2018 09:40:03

LAC: K.Walker + R.Lopez

PG: Walker, Rivers, Beverley
SG: Williams, Thornwell
SF: Gallinari, Dekker, Johnson
PF: Griffin, Harrell
CE: Lopez, Reed

CHA: BRK pick + M.Teodosic + I.Shumpert + C.Frye (exp)

PG: Teodosic, Carter-Williams
SG: Shumpert, Monk
SF: MKG, Lamb
PF: Williams, Kaminsky, Frye
CE: Howard, Zeller

CLE: D.Jordan + N.Batum

PG: Thomas, Wade, Rose
SG: Batum, Smith
SF: James, Green, Korver
PF: Love, Crowder
CE: Jordan, Zizic

CHI: T.Thompson + 2nd rd pick CHA

PG: Dunn, Grant
SG: LaVine, Holiday
SF: Valentine, Zipser
PF: Markannen, Mirotic
CE: Thompson, Portis

16 Jan 2018 10:32:42
It's difficult making a trade for 4 teams.
But i like this for all.

16 Jan 2018 14:44:21
Seems like Charlotte can do better.

15 Jan 2018 01:37:50
Bulls trade Jerian Grant and Nikola Mirotic to Detroit for Stanley Johnson and John Leuer and 2018 1st.

15 Jan 2018 18:37:49
Yes from a pistons fan.

14 Jan 2018 06:09:35

•Cavs get Robin Lopez, Justin Holiday, and Jerian Grant
Pg. Thomas, Grant, Calderon
Sg. Holiday, Wade, Smith
Sf. James, Korver, Osman
Pf. Crowder, Green, Frye
C. Love, Lopez, Zizic

•Bulls get Tristan Thompson, Iman Shumpert, Derrick Rose, and Cavs' 2018 1st.

14 Jan 2018 15:33:47
It seems like a lateral move at best for the Cavs with the personnel and they give up a first. You could argue that Lopez is a better center and you'd probably be right, but TT matches up better against the Warriors and the Cavs lose one of their better defenders in Shumpert.

12 Jan 2018 19:39:21
Milwaukee sends Henson/Vaughn/Teletovic/1st to Orlando

Orlando sends
Vucevic/Hezonja/Afflalo to Milwaukee

Milwaukee signs Bogut.

Milwaukee sends
Hezonja/DJ Wilson/Delly to Chicago

Chicago sends
Mirotic/2nd Round to Milwaukee

Vucevic is hurt but gives Milwaukee everything they need when comes back plus it gives him time to learn Milwaukee's system on recovery in February. Afflalo gives Milwaukee depth at SF. Bogut gives Milwaukee 15min a night. Mirotic slides in at Center until Vucevic is back. Think about the lineup and firepower in starting lineup and off bench. Remember Parker is coming back too.

12 Jan 2018 20:17:46
I don't think two guys that aren't particularly young who probably aren't worth their contracts, a late first 3 years from now and a 3rd year player who's out of the rotation gets you a starting caliber center and two good 3 point shooters.

Same for the 2nd one. Mirotic has looked good since combing back. I think you'd have to add atleast a first from the Bucks and take away that 2nd to get the Bulls to consider that.

12 Jan 2018 20:26:30
Bucks will sign Bogut most likely. Can't really see GS letting Mcgee go unless he asks for it. Bucks will make move for a permanent big man this summer.

12 Jan 2018 21:37:54
@ jorgawood. Agreed about Bogut. The Bucks currently have a 3.5 Million, and a 5 million excemption they can use for him. Or, Trade Vaughn plus a 2nd rd pick to GS for McGee. All the talk about D. Jordan would come out to a half a season rental. McGee isn't one to complain. That's been said about him, But, he also stated his wish to see more PT. Either in GS, or elsewhere?

12 Jan 2018 21:43:36
As far as Milw/ Orl trade? I agree with rkenne_16 about the 1st trade. As far as the 2nd, Mirotic wants to go to Utah. Or Detroit, or The Knicks, and has stated so. He hasn't named the Bucks at all. Plus, What if Mirotic winds up like Teletovic? A 3 point shooter, with no defense? If Mirotic comes to the Bucks, Where does that leave D. J. Wilson?

12 Jan 2018 15:55:34

•Blazers get Justin Holiday and Quincy Pondexter
-Saves millions this year and next year and Holiday should be a better fit than Turner

•Bulls get Evan Turner and 2018 1st rd pick
-Take on Turner's bad contract with cap space for a 1st rd pick.

12 Jan 2018 17:09:43
I think it takes a little more to get rid of Turner.

12 Jan 2018 10:40:18
OKC; Mirotic+clarckson

LA: P George

Chicago: Ingram+ Deng+ Singer+ 1rnd pick LA 2020

12 Jan 2018 20:31:55
i think the only way okc will trade pg at this point is a s+t in the offseason. thunder really seem to want to give this team a shot at a playoff run.

14 Jan 2018 22:17:07
Agreed sort of like the cp3 and rockets.

11 Jan 2018 05:50:21
(Idea from Knickerbocker)

•Wizards get Derrick Favors, Thabo Sefolosha, and their own 2021 2nd rd pick returned (via Jazz)

•Bulls get Ian Mahinmi, Kelly Oubre, and 2019 1st rd pick (Top 10 Protected via Wizards)

•Jazz get Nikola Mirotic.

11 Jan 2018 05:04:42
Chicago - LAL

Chicago Sends:
Niko, Poindexter, trade exemption (delete Poindexter if they want a larger one), 2019/2020 first (lottery protected) if it doesn't convey 2021 first top 5 protected.

LAL Sends:

*Chicago extend/waive and stretch Deng.

11 Jan 2018 06:08:13
If LA has plans for James/ George/ Paul, or combo thereof then I can absolutely see them trading Ingram. Would be a big indicator. Ball could be on the list too if they care about Lavar. Only if secret James deal exists though.

09 Jan 2018 22:03:48

Bulls: Iman Shumpert (2yrs), Anthony Tolliver (exp), Stanley Johnson and Pistons 1st round 18

Short term deals, a young talent and good 1st round pick

Cavs: Avery Bradley (exp)


Pistons: Nikola Mirotic, Justin Holiday and Cavs 1st 18


10 Jan 2018 05:09:07
Cavs should trade for brad Stevens as well.

12 Jan 2018 02:35:59
Bradley johnson and a first for miratic a bench player and a likely28-30 pick I think the pistons say no.

09 Jan 2018 20:16:30

WAS get: Derrick Favors and Thabo Sefolosha

Pg. Wall
Sg. Beal
Sf. Porter
Pf. Favors
C. Gortat

CHI get: Ian Mahimmi and Kelly Oubre

Pg. Dunn
Sg. LaVine
Sf. Oubre
Pf. Markennen
C. Lopez

UTAH get: Nikola Mirotic

Pg. Rubio
Sg. Mitchell
Sf. Ingles
Pf. Mirotic
C. Gobert

09 Jan 2018 20:42:18
Not bad, but I don't think Favors would start in Washington, I think he'd be best at backup center. And Utah also should give a pick to Chicago.

09 Jan 2018 23:42:52
I can't see Chicago doing this.

09 Jan 2018 17:04:51
What about three team deal jazz Minnesota and bulls
Jazz get nikola and Justin Holiday bulls get Derrick favors and Dante exum we trade rolo to the minny for Shabazz and Jerian Grant and take on that center who doesn't play plus we get Utah’s first from Rubio trade?

09 Jan 2018 17:22:43
Unlikely. My bet on Mirotic/ Jazz is just those 2 teams. Could be wrong, but I can't see Minnesota wanting 13 mil of Lopez with Gorgui already there. We'll know after the 15th.

09 Jan 2018 18:06:41
I mean we take his contract then maybe flip him also?

09 Jan 2018 18:37:10
I'm confused. Sorry, I'm easily confused. Explain what you want to do?

09 Jan 2018 21:06:24
Gorgui then trade him.

10 Jan 2018 01:48:04
I thought you were referencing C. Aldrich. Thibs doesn't strike me as a R. Lopez, instead of Gorgui guy. It's just not his style.

08 Jan 2018 05:57:57

BOS: D Favors (exp)

CHI: M Morris, J Johnson (exp), 2nd round pick BOS

UTA: N Mirotic

08 Jan 2018 19:27:41
I like this for the Jazz. Is there anyway we could get Kris Dunn back? Maybe send them Rubio and a 2019 1st round or maybe Exum and 2 second round picks.

08 Jan 2018 20:33:35
Chicago can probably get more for Mirotic, but I think Boston would be jumping at this.

08 Jan 2018 05:01:07

CHI: K Faried, 1st rd pick (lottery protected)

DEN: N Mirotic, 2nd rd pick

CHI get athleticism while DEN clear some room for next season

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