31 Jan 2016 03:51:46
76ers rebuild

Trade Noel to Boston for Smart and James Young or Zeller

Offseason sign Bradley Beal and draft Kris Dunn, Wayne Selden, and a power forward and another wing

New lineup
Smart - pg
Beal - sg
Covington - SF
Holmes - pf
Okafor - c

Bench
Kris Dunn
Wayne Selden
James young
Free agent pf signing
Tyler zeller
Rookie wing player
Rookie pf

The team has shooters, scorers and guys who can help defend and keep opposing players out the paint.

1.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 04:11:03
I can't even begin to explain how awful that team would be. I mean TERRIBLE. I'd be floored if they win 10 games.

2.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 04:26:47
Ben Simmons? Dario Saric?

3.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 07:14:29
Nerlens is way too valuable on defense and we can get a bigger package for Okafor, this is a terrible and stupid rebuild plan.

4.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 07:15:03
Noel is worth more than that as well.

5.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 12:00:08
The Celtics wouldn't trade smart for Noel straight up. And Noel isn't worth more than that. His upside is what? Marcus Camby? c'mon now. He ain't that good. Plus he can't spread the floor

6.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 12:16:49
If the 76ers want to make a move, they should trade embiid. obviously they hit with Jah, his offensive upside is huge. Noel is a solid piece, more of a complimentary piece I think, but solid. Those 2 are your starting front court for the next 5-7 years. Trade embiid now, before we find out he ain't going to play again till.... Whenever, with a returning package involving a pick and a signed proven wing, (Gallo?) or point guard (Teague?) and your probably a playoff team next year.

7.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 14:06:11
Or MacNeil you could pay attention to the sixers in real life instead of on paper? See that okafor has major defensive deficiencies. That embiid, if healthy, is the best ceiling of all of them. Yet his trade value is nothing now because he can't stay healthy.

Besides. Celtics would strongly consider that trade. Camby seems low. But really, what's smarts ceiling? Definitely nothing much better thus far.

8.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 14:12:40
Deals concerning Noel and Smart have been on this board for quite some time. Its interesting because the Sixers have a bunch of bigs and the Celtics need one and the Celtics have excess smalls and the Sixers could use one.

Noel to Camby comparison is pretty good. Camby was a really good NBA player for about 11 years, averaging low double figure points, double figure rebounds and 2-3 blocks per game (his numbers fell off dramatically after those first 11 years) . Noel is not far from that right now. If that's his destiny, so be it. He won't go to the Hall of Fame but he'll be a very, very good pro. Camby was no slouch. Noting that Noel cannot stretch the floor is valid in today's game but it seems like PG play and ball movement is what stretches the floor.

Which brings us to Marcus Smart. Smart is a pretty good player too. But he doesn't start for the Celtics. And he's a very poor shooter, hitting at 35% from the floor in general and 24% from distance. That's regression from his rookie year.

(With the addition of OK4 on the Sixers, Noel's offensive numbers have actually improved since last year. Not sure why people say those two cannot play on the same team. The Sixers' early failure was obviously due to poor PG play. I know there are some stats but any stats prior to Ish Smith getting there are worthless. )

On the Sixers, Smart wouldn't start and would probably get at most 20 minutes per game since the team has had success with Ish Smith. Noel on the Celtics would be a valuable rim protecter.

So I think the Celtics would trade back up guard Smart for Noel in a minute but I don't the Sixers would trade their valuable rim protecter for a back up PG that cannot shoot.

9.) 31 Jan 2016
31 Jan 2016 14:47:22
Yeah, i'm going to have to mostly agree with philly here. Noel is an important piece to the sixers, personally, i feel more important than okafor. Additionally, his numbers are already better than Camby. Camby didn't become much of a rebounder until his 5th year. But yeah, if you want to go oh, you're just going to be a pretty good player for 15 years in the nba. like its a bad thing. that's cool. But I would hope its because the player you have is clearly an elite, all nba type player.

I will say, I don't believe Noel has shown really any ofensive improvement. Sorry, half a point per game and 4 percentage points doesn't really rock the world. especially when he still is just limited to the same type of shots. I think because of his rebounding and defense, he is NOT the weak spot. Ultimately, Okafor is going to have issues because of his lack of defense, but that doesn't matter to this thread.

The other question is, how in the world do you value Smart, a backup pg who is shooting, get this, 35% from the field and 23% from 3. 23! I mean, he must take very few threes? Nope.4 a game. I don't understand what you possibly see his potential as being? Maybe a bulkier ricky rubio? A PG that simply can't shoot and ultimately teams realize has less value than they had hoped. i'd say maybe, but even Rubio shoots 30% from 3. Seriously. 23%.

Between Macneil saying that the celtics lose on a straight up trade of Kevin Love for Crowder (seriously, he's a nice player, he is in no way shape or form elite or all star) . and that the celtics would absolutely say no to Smart for Noel (as philly said, fills both teams needs, Noel has shown a heck of a lot more, Smart is appearing to be very injury prone, and also. just AWFUL at shooting) . gives a pretty clear indication of the wackadoo player evaluations of the celtics. You are winning because of the coach. You are winning because of Thomas. And the "team-oriented" basketball. You aren't winning because your backup pg who can't shoot is the number 1 prospect in the game and your sf is playing decently at 14 and 5, a far fetch from elite level.

Actually, on the Jae Crowder thing. HE ISN'T DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT. He is simply playing more minutes per game this year. Scoring per 36, up a point or two while his rebounding is down like 1. Everyone, please, calm down with this smart, bradley, crowder evaluations. They aren't all stars and won't be all stars.