30 Jun 2016 06:40:13
Heard a rumor of Raptors interest in Noel, here's my idea:

Raptors-Sixers-Blazers

Raptors get Noel/ Stauskas/ Covington

Sixers get McCollum/ future 1st from Raptors

Blazers get Ross/ Nogueira/ Wright/ least of 2017 pick from Sixers

Raptors get their big guy, 2 useful pieces.

1.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 06:44:30
No way from Blazers.

2.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 07:40:35
I don't see Portland trading CJ for such a package.

3.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 14:14:49
No need for the Sixers to get anything else with McCullom.

Raptors shouldn't be getting anything else with Noel

All the rest in this senario should go to portland with them still rejecting it.

4.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 14:51:40
Blazers are keeping the two guard future together.

5.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 16:25:48
Why are there never any decent blazer trades on this site? It's either trading McCollum for nothing, or trading plumlee for curry. Nothing remotely towards the middle.

6.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 17:28:56
There are no "good" Blazers trades because they have virtually no tradeable assets other than McCollum or Plumlee. Dame is untouchable, Davis/ Aminu were afterthought desperation signings that over performed, Vonleh has little to no value on the trade market and Crabbe/ Henderson/ Leonard are unsigned. McCollum to everyone outside of Portland is a 1 dimensional scorer that has only had 1 good year, and is probably going to demand a max contract next year. They already have Crabbe as a solid replacement that brings more to the table, picking up young assets in positions of weakness (Center/ SF/ backup PG) as well as a potential lottery pick next year would only make the team better in the long run.

7.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 19:27:06
I feel like you could say that about a lot of teams gsess. Most all stars are untouchable. Most borderline all stars have flaws. And no one else has any value.

The one thing I would say about McCollum is: if you think he's a one dimensional scorer, you've never seen him play. Also, there's a great chance crabbe is the one gone this year when Phili or Sacramento offers him 15 million a year.

8.) 30 Jun 2016
30 Jun 2016 20:55:10
I agree you can say that about a lot of teams, Raptors included. My issue is what you judge to be nothing. What is an undersized 2 guard with 1 good year behind them, that doesn't defend and is soon to be drastically overpaid worth in your opinion? Ross is a former top 10 pick with size, that can play and guard 2/ 3's, is signed to an affordable long term contract, and has experience as both a starter and bench player, is he streaky and inconsistent, yes, but he is also still young and improving and given a larger role (such as McCollum was handed) I trust he would put up more impressive numbers. Nogueira is also a former 1st round pick, with tons of upside and unique abilities (stretch 5) that has been buried behind JV and Biyombo. Wright (also a 1st rounder) is a 6'6 PG that was impressive in limited minutes (watch the SA game) that like Nogueira happened to be buried behind Lowry and Joseph on a 56 win EC finalist team. Add to that a potential lottery pick from Philadelphia and explain to me how that is "nothing" Also please explain what else McCollum brings to the table other than scoring, I've seen him play plenty, but maybe you're seeing something I don't. Reminds me quite a bit of Lou Williams maybe slightly more consistent with his shot, and a little less turnover prone but even that is based on such a small sample size that it can't be counted on.

9.) 01 Jul 2016
01 Jul 2016 04:01:51
You really proved my point. Davis, aminu, and vonleh have no value, yet the raptors guys have tons of value. You make every excuse in the world for why the raptors guys are underperforming, and you point out every flaw possible for the Blazers players.

McCollum is one of the 20 best scorers in the NBA. He's a great shooter, he's got a great mid range game, he finishes at the rim, he's a good distributer. If he got traded he'd be a starting PG, where his defense would be better (which is not nearly as bad as you say to start)

10.) 01 Jul 2016
01 Jul 2016 20:27:59
What are you talking about Gsess? Just because they are 1st round picks means nothing. So many first round pick have flopped, and all three of those players you mention on Toronto are completely unproven. And CJ averaged 20 points over an entire season on a team which made it to the 2nd round so tell me how that's unproven?

11.) 02 Jul 2016
02 Jul 2016 06:48:15
I'm not saying they have tons of value, which is why they are packaged in a deal, along with a 1st round pick, in return for a package of similarly flawed or unproven players. Sorry to break it to you but alone Davis/ Aminu/ Vonleh don't have great value on the trade market, however if packaged with a 1st to a team that could use them to fill needs they may fetch a good player (probably even better than McCollum), if you were to make up a trade to bring (for example) Blake Griffen to Portland, what would you offer? I didn't point out the flaws of any Portland player, other than McCollum which I only did when you insinuated that the players from the Raptors offered in the trade were "nothing". McCollum is a good player for what he is and what I offered is a fair package for a good player, not that it would be accepted but it, s what I would offer.

12.) 04 Jul 2016
04 Jul 2016 23:24:28
Dude this isn't nba 2k you can't offer 4 below average players for one good player. Every player you had going for CJ were replaceable asset, and I realize that the blazers don't have a ton of good assets but again you are offering player with little to no value at all for a 20 pg player. I really question your basketball IQ with that logic.

13.) 05 Jul 2016
04 Jul 2016 23:33:41
Also nobody on that trade to the blazers averaged more the 10 points and no Lucas on averaged 2 and 1. Very "valuable" assets.

14.) 07 Jul 2016
06 Jul 2016 23:20:40
That's exactly how it works, it's extremely rare for 2 star players to be traded for each other, it's usually a package deal including young players and picks, and McCollum isn't a star player, he has potential and had A good year, he's also a free agent after this year and will be demanding stupid money, if he's willing to stay in Portland, which seems to be an issue. If Ross has no value what is Harkless worth or Crabbe, Blazers just paid 17+ mil a year for Evan freaking Turner. You can question my basketball IQ all you want, based on your past posts I'm impressed you were able to spell IQ, so pardon me if I take anything you say with a grain of sawltt.

15.) 10 Jul 2016
10 Jul 2016 03:45:05
Well by the fact you can't even spell salt I don't believe I'm the one who's intelligence is in question here. CJ is on a path to be a star player and is going to make near max money next year, which I don't believe anyone has a problem with. Crabbe is worth 75 million dollars, which is more than Ross will ever see. You obviously a Raptors fan who has no idea how valuable CJ is and how all 3 of those Raptor players are on track to be nothing more than role players. Please stop posting because it is just sad to see how little you know.

16.) 11 Jul 2016
11 Jul 2016 19:38:51
My spelling of salt was making fun of your spelling in previous posts, the fact you didn't understand that completely proves my point. I find it amusing that you have the nerve to insult Raptors players in the same breath you say Crabbe is worth his contract, you're right that Ross will never see a 75 mil dollar contract because he plays for a well run franchise that wouldn't give horrible contracts to undeserving players based on panic. On the other hand seeing the yearly exodus of players leaving or trying to leave your team, you better take what you can get. Enjoy losing Harkless and after paying McCollum max money next year having over 70 mil tied up in the backcourt, 35 mil of which will be sitting on the bench, solid way to build a team, enjoy being lucky to make the playoffs, enjoy your remedial reading classes, and enjoy being the ignorant fanboy that you are. Have a nice day.

17.) 12 Jul 2016
12 Jul 2016 18:45:33
Yes, because Toronto has such a bright future ahead. Although it is pretty fun to watch LeBron James single handily send you home year after year. I also love how you bring up talent leaving the trail blazers, but they didn't even miss the playoffs, and were in the same position they were in last year except now they are younger. I can't defend all of the move they made this year, but at least they added talent to the roster unlike Toronto, who's your big score was Jared Sullinger? . If we want to talk about Franchises, how is making it to the playoffs only 8 times in your team's history, plus having a losing overall record? Now enjoy your assumed dead end job that is slowly crushing your sole and enjoy the one little bit of happiness in your life slowly getting away from you as grow old and alone while watching your beloved Raptors lose year after year until the team inevitably is moved away leaving you with nothing but that 8 ball of crack you presumably bought from your mayor to dull the pain. Now have a nice day :)