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07 Jul 2019 14:53:30
OKC Westbrook

DET Jackson, Snell, Kennard, Doumbouya + 2 first round picks.


1.) 07 Jul 2019 15:44:45
That’s to much for Westbrook.

2.) 07 Jul 2019 16:08:07
i think it's a fair trade, maybe the 2 first needs a protection.

3.) 07 Jul 2019 22:04:01
Players all suck so the picks is all okc get.

4.) 07 Jul 2019 22:41:13
Ok. Lottery protect the picks.

5.) 07 Jul 2019 22:49:33
Swap Galloway for Snell.



06 Jul 2019 19:20:37
Why do I see this as the foundation of a OKC-WAS deal.

Westbrook + Adams


Wall + Mahimi

Not sure what needs to be added on both sides.


1.) 06 Jul 2019 19:45:26
How is this good for okc, kings fan trying makes playoffs.

2.) 06 Jul 2019 20:43:57
If OKC is looking to tear down, this gets pretty much all but Wall's and Schroeder's salary off the books after this upcoming year which would be a tank job anyways.

3.) 06 Jul 2019 20:58:05
OKC says no. Why would they want Walls contract?



06 Jul 2019 08:53:04
Well there is thw OKC trade that everyone was wondering about. Just didn't think it would be PG13.


1.) 06 Jul 2019 10:19:54
I mean that’s a great haul for OKC if PG wants out. Have to commend the great Jerry West for a well done secret moves.



05 Jul 2019 18:11:55
Minny get Dangelo Russell + Glenn Robinson Iii

Golden State gets Teague + Covington

Happens on Dec 15 when certain trade restrictions are lifted.


1.) 05 Jul 2019 20:46:12
With 2 or 3 first round l assume.



05 Jul 2019 03:22:38
Dallas trades THJ
OKC Trades Roberson +Patterson + 2nd rounder.


1.) 06 Jul 2019 00:16:57
Only problem is the Thunder take on quite a bit of salary.




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15 Jul 2019 02:09:44
Team with the most "homer" trade rumors?
Knicks or Thunder?


1.) 15 Jul 2019 10:10:22
Kings :-p.

2.) 15 Jul 2019 17:04:05
Knicks, Thunder, Lakers in no particular order seems like the most.

Orlando, Dallas, and Miami each have a person or two that are pretty ridiculous too.

Least: Atlanta? Is there a single Hawks fan here?
There's also a surprising shortage of bandwagon Warrior fans here.

3.) 15 Jul 2019 17:36:15
Oh, missed Boston too. Boston has a few pretty bad ones.

4.) 15 Jul 2019 17:50:25
One my laker homer trade came true though plus kept kuz.

5.) 15 Jul 2019 18:29:33
IF you throw enough crap against a wall, something has to stick. You also missed quite a few picks I'm pretty sure, but that conversation has happened and I don't feel like talking to a yellow and purple brick wall again.

6.) 15 Jul 2019 18:31:39
ll, outside of the getting Davis, nothing close to what you said happened and Davis to LA was obvious.

7.) 15 Jul 2019 20:24:15
If Paul George taught us anything last off season, nothing is obvious in the NBA anymore.

8.) 16 Jul 2019 01:18:42
We got all the players I wanted but another star as in Irving butler or Leonard. Plus kept two players I didn't want rondo and KCP. So I don't see what you talking about. Got Bradley green dudley cousins kept McGee Caruso.

9.) 18 Jul 2019 07:22:15
Don't understand why the Lakers fans are excited about Bradley. He had a 5.57 PER playing 30 mins per night while starting. Doc played him far too much considering he was unplayable, Doc also took a ton of heat for it. Please don't say Bradley's defense is why, that wasn't any good either. He is only worth the vet min and you ending up overpaying him.

10.) 18 Jul 2019 15:04:56
Bradley is one of those guys that people remember him as what he was, not what he is. The Lakers are loaded with those kind of players (Dudley, Bradley, Cousins, Rondo) and could add more (Korver, Iggy, Livingston) .

11.) 18 Jul 2019 20:19:06
Notice you didn't add Lebron to that list.

12.) 19 Jul 2019 14:31:57
Lebron isn't what he was, but he's still an all NBA player. Or, he was last year when he played. Health is the biggest concern for him, but when he plays I wouldn't call 27, 9, and 8 dropping off a cliff.

13.) 19 Jul 2019 17:12:28
If his numbers drop, is it because of father time or a better roster taking opportunities for stats away from Lebron?

14.) 21 Jul 2019 16:16:42
You bid against yourself. Gave every prospect but kuzma. Gave up like 30 1sts. For a one year contract. That’s what you want to hang your hat on? Good luck II lol.

15.) 21 Jul 2019 18:01:52
Not drainer just watch your Knicks. When Lakers win 2020 I don't want to hear no more hating.

James Davis and cousins will score at 58 percent I take that over 3 point shooting. With James on wing and Davis it's like the premium lob city.

16.) 21 Jul 2019 22:21:50
Davis is a 51% Lebron 50 and cousins 45ish. How does that equal 58?!?

The lakers are going to be barely a playoff team this year. You crazy. If they don’t win this year they wasted all those picks and players. Could have just signed Davis for free. So dumb. So dumb.

17.) 23 Jul 2019 06:35:05
But try guarding those 3 all together. There going to score easily.



12 Jul 2019 02:18:52
Yea! No more Westbrook trade rumors.


1.) 12 Jul 2019 16:48:52
for three months :-) :-) :-)

2.) 12 Jul 2019 17:33:41
Until the trade deadline when it's not working in Houston.



08 Jul 2019 16:29:17
Soooo. How is RJ Barrett doing in the Summer League? LOL!


1.) 08 Jul 2019 16:41:24
Lonzo lit up SL and couldn't do rubbish as rookie outside 10 feet. Its early. Btw knicks don't have but 30 wins so it's ok.

2.) 08 Jul 2019 21:51:50
Shizzee is in a straight jacket some where talking about Zion and KD winning the Knicks a champ ship.

3.) 08 Jul 2019 21:53:44
Odds Barrett shoots less than 40% from the field for the season?

4.) 09 Jul 2019 03:46:24
Fredman if he shoots 43% and can't guard he is second in rookie of the year like trae.

5.) 09 Jul 2019 04:06:17
So you basically saying he can be Wiggins and get the ROY. That is a poor commentary on this rookie clss then.

6.) 09 Jul 2019 17:18:57
Fredman roy is meaningless. MCW won one did nothing else.

7.) 09 Jul 2019 21:41:24
Eh, an inefficient scoring machine is probably pretty par for the course for ROY in most years. You just hope they learn how to become efficient as they mature.

18 and 5 wins ROY most years. That's what Wiggins averaged last year. If Wiggins did what he did last year as a rookie, I'd say he has superstar potential so long as he learns some control, efficiency, and defense. After year 5, that ship has sailed.



08 Jul 2019 02:21:53
I just found the silver lining in the PG13 trade that most OKC fans probably missed. The odds of OKC keeping their 2020 (and 2022) first round picks just increased because its top 20 protected.


1.) 08 Jul 2019 15:20:41
Yea if they pull off a good return for Russ they will have plenty of 1st round picks and some young talent to make this rebuild easier. They will have a lot of chances to strike gold in upcoming drafts. hopefully Presti does good with them.

2.) 08 Jul 2019 16:32:18
Trying to remember who told me that the Thunder were a lock for the playoffs and I was crazy for suggesting the Kings may beat the Thunder out of the 8th seed.

3.) 08 Jul 2019 16:36:43
Oh yea. It was usa, of course.

4.) 08 Jul 2019 17:46:50
Kings, dallas,

Kings aren't in for sure.

5.) 08 Jul 2019 18:43:47
Most sites have the Kings over the Spurs. Young players continue to develop and new FAs provide much needed depth at key positions. Spurs rookies will spend a majority of their time in the G-league per Coach Pop's Standard Operating Procedures. Depends how Murray and Walker perform coming off their injuries.

6.) 08 Jul 2019 20:22:30
No GS in there? Curry, Russell, and Green should be a playoff team, especially if Klay comes back with 20+ games left.

The top 6 of Shiller's list feels like the top 6. Then SA, Sac, GS, (maybe Dallas and Minny) battle for the last two. I'd bet GS gets one of those two.

7.) 08 Jul 2019 23:16:13
Lots a question marks with GS. Hsrd to get a feel for team chemistry, games missed for load management, lack of bench depth, etc.

8.) 09 Jul 2019 00:07:29
Fredman to be fair to usa no one saw the PG trade to Clippers. i'm sure he meant with Russ and PG they were a lock for playoffs. Obviously unexpected things have chamged that.

9.) 09 Jul 2019 04:14:02
I wouldn't say that its "unexpected". Everyone knew sonething had to give at OKC. Fans were just hoping that it was just Adams on the move. Presti was smart and got the most anyone could get for PG13. Accepting that package just says its time to tear it all down.



07 Jul 2019 00:02:38
USA, the answer to your question of has anyone won back to back championships with different teams is yes. Hint: he currently has 8 rings and will probably get more before entering the HoF.


1.) 07 Jul 2019 05:58:48
I remember one. Patrick McCaw.

2.) 07 Jul 2019 14:00:28
Nice. I missed that one. I was thinking Steve Kerr. Bulls then Spurs.

3.) 07 Jul 2019 16:59:07
Steve Kerr indeed :-) :-) , he won four in a row 1996-1998 Bulls and 1999 Spurs impressive.

Is there another player besides R Horry, that won titles with 3 different teams ( as a player )

4.) 07 Jul 2019 17:48:28
Gasupo- john salley.

5.) 07 Jul 2019 18:13:35
As a player only? Because Kerr has 2 as a player and 1 as a coach.

6.) 07 Jul 2019 20:07:21
Jooohhnnn sally :-) :-) , i forgot he came back as a laker.




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24 Jul 2019 00:00:28
I wouldn't trade for Paul and take the ball out of Jokic's hands.

BTW you say "slander", I say "truth". If he is all that then he can carry OKC to the playoffs.




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23 Jul 2019 23:56:30
Quite possibily the dumbest thing that Detroit could do. Tie up 4 years of future cap space with Paul.




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23 Jul 2019 23:51:31
Miami cannot trade their 2024 first at this time because of the Stepien Rule and/ or the protections on Miami's 2023 first rounder that OKC owes.




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23 Jul 2019 23:47:59
Sooo. Orlando is going over the luxury tax by nearly $8 mil with this deal and still be a non-championship contender? Doubt it.

So OKC got Paul and 2 first round picks, but you want to use 3 first round picks (which I doubt ORL wants the Houston picks in this deal) to be rid of Paul? I wonder what package Westbrook and a First would have brought to OKC.




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23 Jul 2019 23:38:44
No one wants Adams unless OKC is giving up picks in a salary dump.





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