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16 Jan 2023 13:18:43
I keep reading about rumors that Payton Pritchard is being shopped, or at least is available. Looking for a viable trade partner brought me to the Timberwolves. How likely, or fair would a trade such as.

Celtics trade:
Payton Pritchard
2nd round pick

Timberwolves trade:
Naz Reid

Thoughts?

JedIII

1.) 16 Jan 2023 13:58:47
Mm Wolves say no.


2.) 16 Jan 2023 14:06:29
The TWolves probably won't resign Reid because they already have a lot of money tied up at the position. Boston would need to believe they would in order to make this trade.


3.) 17 Jan 2023 00:38:01
With the injuries that KAT and Gobert have gone through this year, Minnesota can't afford to trade Reid if they have hopes to make the playoffs. He's too valuable for them.


 

 

28 Jun 2021 00:06:59
Just read an article that Damian Lillard MAY request a trade this offseason.

As a Celtics fan...

Would a trade of Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Robert Williams, and two future firsts be enough for Lillard and Little?

JedIII

1.) 28 Jun 2021 02:42:33
Change it to 3 1sts and I think it’s a solid offer.


2.) 28 Jun 2021 02:48:33
I'd be out of my mind if Boston did that. I just don't want Lillard I don't care how great everyone thinks he is. He's hit 30, he's inefficient and inconsistent, small, and will be making 50 mil a year. No thank you I wouldn't even want to give up Brown straight up, and it's not because I wouldn't trade Brown.


3.) 28 Jun 2021 03:34:24
Don't see Boston doing that deal. Too much to give up first of all. Stevens will be run outta town if he becomes Ainge 2.0.

I wonder if they'll retain Jay as an assistant since the players really like him.


4.) 28 Jun 2021 07:15:49
In what world is Dame inefficient or inconsistent?


5.) 28 Jun 2021 12:49:41
Maybe, take out Williams and or a first? That seems like a lot.


6.) 28 Jun 2021 12:59:23
Jaylen Brown is 24 years old, averaged 25ppg last year, is improving every year, and is a very high character guy. Check out his first 5 years compared to Butler and Kawhi. Him and Tatum can play together through their primes. Lillard turns 31 next week and will soon be making 50 mil a year. Look at the damn timelines. One of Boston's biggest issues last year was depth. This trade has Boston trading their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best players plus picks. How do they improve from there? Boston can open up a max slot in 2 years to add to Tatum and Brown while they are both in their prime, when Tatum's close friend Bradley Beal is a free agent. This proposed deal doesn't make an ounce of sense for Boston.


7.) 28 Jun 2021 14:13:38
If you don't want a fricking superstar, then you're stupid.


8.) 28 Jun 2021 14:21:22
A lot can happen in 2 yrs while waiting for 2 max slots.

The more I think about it the more Horford brings a lot of value to them, he's well liked by the C's.

Rumor had it that Hawks couldn't afford Collins a month or so ago. He'd mesh real well Tatum and Brown at a price that will be better than an expensive PG.

Making deals for Collins and Lonzo would make them pretty tough to beat.


9.) 28 Jun 2021 15:32:26
Boston doesn't have to do that much to be a title contender. Trading for Lillard messes up the whole team and would be the most stupid thing to do. Stop being starstruck and use some sense.


 

 

23 Jun 2021 16:35:55
Lonzo Ball (NOP) for Marcus Smart (BOS).

Not a complete trade necessarily, but I would be interested to hear what other people think.

JedIII

1.) 23 Jun 2021 16:52:44
I love the idea. I want this, but it's not going to happen.


2.) 23 Jun 2021 16:56:10
Seems like a lateral trade at best.


3.) 23 Jun 2021 19:30:02
Can’t see Pels doing it


4.) 23 Jun 2021 19:34:25
Lateral trades can help teams if it’s better fits.

Lonzo gives the Celtics a true playmaker finally while not losing a step on defense much

Pels gets arguably the best perimeter defender at the position they really struggled at. This allows Bledsoe to play his natural position or give Lewis the nod as starting PG since he’s a better spacer than Bledsoe.


5.) 23 Jun 2021 21:49:11
I get it, but I'd rather Boston keep Smart over Ball. Just my preference.


 

 

31 May 2018 02:44:20
As a Celtics fan, I would not want to trade Jaylen Brown for a pick in this year’s draft. However, if Danny Ainge has his sights on Mo Bamba I would feel like he would test the waters. The problem is Ainge will not overpay, but await an opportunity of value. I would think that value would occur if Bamba fell out of the top 5. Therefore, I feel the following trade would be appropriate if Bamba was available at #6:

Boston trades Terry Rozier, #27, and the 2019 Kings/ Sixers pick

Orlando trades #6

I believe the trade works moneywise. Thoughts?

JedIII

1.) 31 May 2018 04:36:41
sac pick feels too valuable for this. it could end up higher than 6 given it’s unprotected, memphis pick makes more sense.


2.) 31 May 2018 05:24:53
I think bamba upped his stock at the combine 6 is definitely pushing the boundaries of his availability i'm guessing.


3.) 31 May 2018 05:54:47
If you want to move up that far, I think it's reasonable given the variables in that Kings and the lack of success players have had after leaving Boston.


4.) 31 May 2018 06:30:12
Too much of a overpay Bamba would be nice but come on Celtics don’t have to do much just try and resign current roster and get the players healthy ( Kyrie, Hayward, Theis)


5.) 31 May 2018 07:38:34
@rad23 wouldn't deal Rozier but tatum played so well along with Rozier, smart and Hayward seem expendable. Bamba could be a nice piece for the celts if those guys were involved and a pick or 2.


 

 

06 Jul 2017 02:13:03
Swing for the fence trade...

Bos-Avery Bradley
Jaylen Brown
Jae Crowder
Terry Rozier
Jordan Mickey
2018 Nets pick
2019 Memphis pick

Utah-Rudy Gobert

Th numbers would be close to allow for the a Gordon H. signing as well. I am well aware that the likelihood is LOW, but I think this is a relatively equal trade for both teams.

JedIII

1.) 06 Jul 2017 05:30:18
Gobert is untouchable.


2.) 06 Jul 2017 10:54:20
Gobert would be a great fit in Boston as a defensive anchor that just turned 25, signed for next 4 years and is a much better rebounder than anyone they have. I wouldn't say Gobert is untouchable with Jazz losing Hayward and Gobert not quite the franchise caliber player who can fill his void due to his offensive limitations (Not to mention the loaded western conference) . that's pretty great value to me if I'm the Jazz especially since Favors could be slid back to center and could see if he could recoup his old form (and stay healthy) . Nets pick would enable them to get a replacement big man, Crowder can fill in some of void left by Hayward, Brown is a good young piece and that Memphis pick will probably be in lotto with that aging Memphis team in a loaded west.

Financially Celtics would have to do more to make it work but I think they should explore it.


 

 

 

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12 Jun 2018 02:06:15
This is a question:

Kyrie Irving for Porzingis?

Which player has higher trade value?
Which team would say no?

Personally, I think Kyrie and the 9 for Porzingis is a fair eqully beneficial trade.

JedIII

1.) 12 Jun 2018 05:08:24
Don’t think this would ever happen only way the Knicks do it is if Kylie wants a career in NY and if he does they wait a year to get him and keep Porzingis


2.) 12 Jun 2018 09:21:51
Yeah Celtics got to know what Kyrie is doing if he wants to stay give him what he wants he is a superstar when you consider Chris Paul at his age is getting a super max Kyrie is super supermax guy.


3.) 12 Jun 2018 23:32:55
If the rumors are true and NY is really first on his short list, I agree with Shee, why trade for him? It's not like adding Irving makes them a contender next year. Plus, Porzingas might have more of an impact on games than Irving does.

He can be a great offensive player, a dominant defensive player and a force on the boards when he's at his best. Irving at his best is a dominant offensive player, but just average every where else and I think you can make a case that that makes more of an impact. I'd probably take KP though. The guy looks like he was built in a lab to play in today's game. Outside of wishing he was a little more assertive on the boards, he does everything you could want out of a modern day big man.

On defense, he can block shots, play post defense, get back in transition and isn't a liability if switched out on the perimeter. On offense, he can shoot the 3, run the floor, finish, go by slower guys off the dribble, he can shoot over most wings, and he has enough of a post game to punish smaller defenders. The only other guy in the league that can give you a similiar skill set is probably AD and maybe Myles Turner to a certain extent if you really want to just look at skill set. The guy is an absolute freak and I think you go forward with him as long as you think his rehab is going well.


 

 

08 Jul 2017 19:27:24
I want to be clear that I don't believe this has a shred of hope, but with LeBron passively threatening to leave Cleveland and with Golden State having luxury tax issues in a couple of years, who would say no in this trade?

Cle-LeBron James
GS-Klay Thompson
Draymond Green

JedIII

1.) 08 Jul 2017 20:14:13
I think both say no but Golden State louder. The two are bitter rivals so I think a trade between the two is heavily unlikely. Trading Lebron sounds taboo but looking at Cavs situation where they don't have many avenues to improve and Lebron leaving for nothing, adding two younger all-stars to their two remaining all-stars of Kyrie and Love doesn't sound bad at all but then you look at Golden State and you realize you just helped put the top 2 players in the NBA together along with Curry who is probably top 5 and I don't think you beat them in a series of 7 with all 3 able to take over a game. Also, with a big 4 of their own the Cavs would encounter the very same salary cap issues the Warriors would be trying to avoid in the future when they may have the best chance to beat Warriors as Lebron ages past 35.

On Golden States end I think they've made it clear they don't care much about the luxury tax issues as evident by their aggressive offseason. If this is the case the only thing stopping them from keeping this core together is if one of them wants out (although they could be a part of a historic dynasty and one of the most dominant teams ever so I doubt they would) since with their Bird rights GS can give them more money than any other team. Lebron is great and likely talented enough to make it work between him, Durant and Curry but I don't think anyone would argue he wouldn't be as good a fit as Klay and Draymond who both don't need the ball as much and are elite defenders (Lebron's effort on the defense end has waned over past few years) . They are also both 5 years younger than Lebron which enables this team to compete at the highest level for longer.

The cost to retain both is significant but I think if Warriors were to trade one of them it wouldn't happen for at least another year and they'd want a high draft pick/ promising prospect (s) still on rookie deal and a veteran that can hold them over in the meantime (or a trade exception so they can get one via FA) . If Warriors want to continue the dynasty they'll have to add some higher level young talent and they aren't going to get good draft picks anytime soon.


 

 

18 Jun 2017 00:27:38
I know 'tis the season for trade proposals, free agent signings, and other fantasy ideas for changing our favorite teams into title contenders, but I want to change my favorite sport. The NBA is set up very poorly; business wise and basketball wise.

There are many things we all would change, but what is one thing you would change on the court and or one thing you would change off the court?

Off the Court: I would eliminate max contracts; cost certainty for elite players hinders competitive balance in the league and makes the top 10 or so players bargains, which gives those teams a HUGE advantage in a sport so affected by having the best player on the floor.

On the Court: When teams are in the bonus, give the fouled team the choice of free throws or possession. The idea of bonus free throws after so many team fouls was designed to give the team being fouled an advantage. The way the game is played today makes that the opposite. It also slows the game down terribly and sometimes becomes a FT contest.

JedIII

1.) 18 Jun 2017 01:26:50
I'd say max contracts hurt teams more than helping them. There are probably 10 to 15 players in the league worth the max and far more with the max.


2.) 18 Jun 2017 05:25:37
I agree a change should be done around max contracts but I don't think eliminating them is the right thing to do. The player's association would never allow it since what would end up happening is the top 1% of NBA players would make like 90% of all the money. Similar to how the new super-max contracts are I think there should be more explicit criteria that allows a player to get different levels of max contracts. This would not only help reward the best players more but not allow teams to foolishly give max contracts to guys underserving of them. For example hitting certain accolades such as making an all-nba team, starting over 60 games, finishing top 10 in assists and things like that should be able to boost the amount of money you can get from some baseline max which is lower than current numbers. I also, don't like how max contracts are currently tied to how long you've been in the NBA since players typically become less valuable the longer they've been in the NBA and nobody wants to be paying 30+ year olds 30+ mill per year.


 

 

 

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29 Jan 2024 21:25:22
Warburs… that is why I always thought a Payton Pritchard for Naz Reid trade felt like a natural match.

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06 Jul 2023 22:44:49
It is you.

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04 Jul 2023 18:52:18
I think this is a scenario where I won’t argue the value (believable), but I would mark this “unbelievable” for likelihood.

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18 Jun 2023 19:06:20
I look at this and think the #13 needs to be removed.

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03 Aug 2021 21:57:59
I like how far off the S&T contract estimate was= 3 year $40m vs 3 year $85m for Derozan.

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02 Jun 2018 03:32:34
In your mock draft, I would say Grizzlies, Bulls, and Clippers celebrate the results.

Doncic would probably mesh well with Gasol and Conley not to mention he is arguably the 2nd best prospect (after Ayton) . BPA+Team Need=Draft Win.

Jackson has the modern Big man skill set: athletic rim protector with offensive range. If he reaches potential you have prime Chris Bosh and that type of a prospect at 7 would be tremendous.

I think there is a decent drop after the top 8 prospects in this draft, which includes Wendell Carter. If the Clippers nab a top 8 prospect with the 12 pick then the draft would be a success.

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02 Jun 2018 03:11:26
I am assuming healthy players and zero salary considerations:

Giannis- Could be the best player in the league in a year or two and Simmons can’t shoot.
Mitchell- His success this year showed me he can lead a winning team; I can’t say the same about Booker,
Tatum- Right now, it is not even close, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Ingram develops into an elite player down the line. However, if I were the Celtics and the Lakers offered Ingram and my choice of any other player on the roster for Tatum I would hang up.
Porzingis-More versatile player with much higher upside, but as I prefaced: assuming full health.
Embiid- He reminds me of a “modern” Olajuwon; less post, more range. KAT is an excellent player, but in the few games I’ve watched of him I have never seen him take over a game. Embiid can and has done so a few times.

That was fun.

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24 Jul 2017 20:43:01
I'm sticking with my notion that Golden State could obtain LeBron if they wanted with a Thompson and Green offer. Very unlikely, but I think it helps GS with their future luxury tax issue (and they get the arguable best player in the league) . Cleveland would receive excellent value in my opinion.

Lineups (give or take) :
Cleveland-
T. Thompson
Love
Green
K. Thompson
Irving

Golden State-
Zaza
LeBron
Durant
N. Young (or Shaun or Iggy)
Curry.

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15 Jun 2017 00:44:11
The Celtics would trade two extremely valuable trade assets, for a potential rental. AND the trade would eliminate ALL of the cap space, even after renouncing rights to Zeller, Johnson, Olynyk, etc. I'm mentioning those players, not because they have value, but the Celtics need to renounce them and more just to create enough space to sign Gordon H. to NEAR max money. Even the above mentioned idea of trading Crowder and Bradley for cap purposes wouldn't free enough space. Not to mention Jefferson has negative trade value.

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14 Jun 2017 02:03:44
PG-Curry $5
SG-Booker $1
SF-Leonard $5
PF-Towns $3
C-Whiteside $1.

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