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21 Mar 2019 00:00:35
KD and Kyrie are rumored to want to play with each other. Boston might be the best situation for those two. However, the only way it would be possible is through a sign-and-trade deal with GSW.

Celtics get Kevin Durant

Warriors get Gordon Hayward and Jayson Tatum

The Celtics need to move either Hayward or Horford in order to match KD's projected salary. Celtics would obviously prefer to move Hayward, but the already expensive Warriors are unlikely to want him. However, if the Celtics sweeten the pot by including Tatum, I don't see how the Warriors could pass. GSW stays at a championship level and makes their future much brighter with Tatum. Much better than losing KD for nothing. Celtics set themselves up for true championship contention. Everyone wins.

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1.) 21 Mar 2019 08:45:53
Hayward is a good fit in GS.


2.) 21 Mar 2019 09:09:04
Nothing happens in Boston until Irving opts out and they trade for A Davis. Sorry, but Tatum will probably be in New Orleans.


 

 

04 Feb 2019 11:44:28
Celtics trade Kyrie Irving, Jaylen Brown, and four 2019 first round picks (Kings, Grizzlies, Clippers, and their own)

Celtics get Anthony Davis

Knicks trade Enes Kanter, Kevin Knox, and a top 5 protected 2019 first (unprotected in 2020)

Knicks get Kyrie Irving

Pelicans trade Anthony Davis

Pelicans get Enes Kanter, Jaylen Brown, Kevin Knox, Knicks first rounder, and 4 first rounders from Boston

The Celtics can only acquire AD this season by moving Kyrie. This would be a big gamble for Boston, but the Celtics would be guaranteed at least one postseason run with AD. If a potential finals appearance and a bright future isn't enough to get AD to commit, they can trade him for a king's ransom this summer and replenish their assets.

The Knicks traded KP for hope, but now they have something to sell KD on other than just hope. With Kyrie on board the Knicks still would have a max contract slot and would become much more attractive to suitors. The Knicks can also go over the salary cap to re-sign Irving, something they wouldn't be able to do without trading for him.

The Pelicans get a big expiring contract, two promising young talents, and a whopping five first round picks for their superstar. The Pelicans would likely move some of those picks for future firsts, thus making the long term benefits of this deal even greater. I don't see a better offer out there for the Pellies.

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1.) 04 Feb 2019 14:06:39
Davis is better than Kyrie, but he is not 4 first rounders and a young talent better than Kyrie. Less picks frim Boston, more picks from NY (AKA add those Dallas picks) .


2.) 04 Feb 2019 14:43:22
@Fredman fair enough huckleberry.


3.) 04 Feb 2019 15:00:55
Unprotected the picks for nola.


4.) 04 Feb 2019 15:20:26
Delusional C's fans know if Celtics don't make conference final they will not keep Irving or get Davis.

Tatum and Brown are over rated.


5.) 04 Feb 2019 15:24:04
You heard Davis's father, nobody wants to play for puke green.


6.) 04 Feb 2019 16:20:17
Knicks fans are adorable in their complete jealousy of Boston.


7.) 04 Feb 2019 19:11:00
Your best player is leaving a top 4 team east for the worst team in the nba. That's adorable. Hayward is the next Larry bird. Let's pay 35 mil a season 🤣.


8.) 04 Feb 2019 19:19:53
Pretty sure you should realize how stupid that sounds and understand it won’t happen. (Also, not a Boston fan, so not “my” anything)


9.) 04 Feb 2019 21:27:55
Side note: You know who's opinion wouldn't matter to me if I'm an NBA exec? Any star player's dad.

Is Anthony Davis' dad right? No. Does his opinion on that matter mean anything? Also no.


10.) 04 Feb 2019 21:53:43
NYK -- 10-42.


11.) 04 Feb 2019 22:27:16
Knicks fans may want to be quiet until the offseason because if they whiff at signing star FAs this off season, they will become the worse team in the league. by far!

Worse than even those Process 76ers.


12.) 04 Feb 2019 22:53:37
I came to his post because its a Pels trade proposal, but i stayed for the Celtics-Knicks fight. lol.


13.) 04 Feb 2019 23:47:22
Agreed Fredman. Like they have whiffed every year for what? 20 years? (oh wait! They got a broken Stat and an old Tyson Chandler! )

Holy crap, Amare Stoudemire is still only 36. That's crazy. Seems like he should be in his mid 40's.


14.) 04 Feb 2019 23:06:51
I was censored for less than shizzee, and notdrainers little rants on here! Unreal the hypocrisy!


 

 

03 Feb 2019 16:41:26
Lakers get Kyrie Irving

Celtics get KCP, Lonzo Ball, and the Lakers unprotected 2019 first round pick

This may seem like an underwhelming package for Kyrie, but one should consider that the Celtics only gave up IT, Crowder, Zizic, the Nets pick (Collin Sexton), and a second rounder for Kyrie when he had two years left on his deal. Kyrie only has half a season left on his deal, has continued to get injured, and has been a drama queen in Boston who feuds with the young guys. I'm not sure Kyrie is worth the huge contract he will demand from Boston and there is no guarantee he even stays in Boston.

The Celtics replenish the Nets pick with Lonzo, a new franchise point guard who you can pair with Tatum and Brown. The first from the Lakers more than makes up for the second rounder, and KCP is an expiring contract who will give the Celtics financial flexibility to re-sign guys like Marcus Morris. The C's stay patient and build for the future. This deal also works with Ingram instead of Lonzo, so the Celtics can have their choice between those guys.

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1.) 03 Feb 2019 16:58:32
Celtics not ruining their chances of title run. You want Irving give him max deal.


2.) 03 Feb 2019 17:11:55
@shizee how much of a chance at a title run do the Celtics really have? Getting past Toronto and Milwaukee will be hard enough, then once you get past them you have the Golden State megateam to deal with. With Kyrie out of the mix the Celtics can go back to playing the way they did in last year’s postseason: team basketball. It’d also be great for Tatum’s development.


3.) 03 Feb 2019 17:17:52
So the Lakers give up Lonzo Ball and middle of the first round pick and get back a 26 year old allstar?


4.) 03 Feb 2019 18:11:38
Celtics get Aaron Gordon and zubac 2019 lakers first

Magic get ball and Hart plus pope buyout

Lakes get Irving.


 

 

29 Jan 2019 23:33:13
Lakers get Anthony Davis

Pelicans get Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Lance Stephenson, Kyle Kuzma, Ivica Zubac, and 2 unprotected first round picks

This is the reported offer that the Lakers will make for AD. This deal allows the Lakers to hold on to their cap space this summer and sign either Kyrie, Kemba, Klay, Kawhi, or KD. According to recent rumors, Kyrie is seriously considering re-joining LeBron. Kyrie/Hart/LBJ/AD/JaVale would be a legit threat to GSW.

The Pelicans start their rebuild and will be loaded with young players. If AD announces that he will only re-sign with the Lakers (as he is expected to do) then this will be by far the best offer available. The Pelicans can throw away the rest of this season and hopefully get another elite talent in the draft.

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1.) 30 Jan 2019 00:18:06
As long as it early so pels can flip abal to suns or magic.


2.) 30 Jan 2019 01:33:27
Not to be mean but what bench can they afford with that? Btw if that happens kd and Klay stay and boogie too.


3.) 30 Jan 2019 02:11:44
I bet New Orleans puts the Lakers in a bind by demanding Solomon Hill be added to the deal to unload his future salary.


4.) 30 Jan 2019 05:06:54
Maybe cavs will take hill for a pick or an asset plus max money and Lakers get burks.


5.) 30 Jan 2019 05:43:19
What pick? 2023 first?


6.) 30 Jan 2019 09:41:15
I like Irving But klay James and ad would be killer for Durant green and curry plus rest the league.


7.) 30 Jan 2019 17:49:16
But if AD comes out and say he’s only resigning with LAL, the price goes down. Strong possibility they can keep Kuzma. Okafor would be an excellent steal if we can somehow squeeze him in the deal.


 

 

29 Jan 2019 15:45:05
Lakers get Anthony Davis and Elfrid Payton

Pelicans get Rajon Rondo, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, and 2 first round picks

Lakers do this trade for obvious reasons. Perhaps they will sign Melo to add depth at forward after making this move.

Pelicans stop delaying the inevitable and trade AD now rather than later. The Celtics have more assets to offer, however, AD's refusal to commit to Boston could prevent the Celtics from pursuing AD aggressively. The Pelicans start their rebuild now and can focus on tanking this season to land an elite talent like Zion, RJ, or Morant. I think this is a better option than waiting until the summer and delaying the rebuild.

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1.) 29 Jan 2019 17:35:27
Don't you think that New Orleans would rather have a Tatum and or Brown (plus whatever else) and a few potential lottery picks as opposed that offer whose picks will be late 20's?


2.) 29 Jan 2019 19:30:42
They would I am sure, but if by the time we hit the offseason AD’s Camp makes it clear they’ll only re-sign in LA, Boston would not be foolish enough to give that up for him.

Personally, if I am the Raps or Bucks, I am trying to pry him away now. You get two postseasons with him, and should Kawhi leave in the offseason (if dealt to Toronto), you can trade AD again to recoup your losses.


3.) 30 Jan 2019 01:55:18
Rondo just left NOLA, Ball already ran his big mouth about where he ill or won't play. You better bring a third team in and sweeten the pot a lot more. This deal pales compared to what Cs can offer.


 

 

 

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02 Feb 2018 21:41:26
Warriors dream offseason

Warriors get LeBron James (he opts into the final year of his contract like CP3 did last summer)

Cavs get Klay Thompson and Andre Iguodala

Sign JJ Redick and Brook Lopez to the veteran minimum

Re-sign David West to the veteran minimum, re-tain Patrick McCaw and Kevon Looney (RFA)

C: Draymond Green/Brook Lopez/D. Jones
PF: Kevin Durant/David West/Jordan Bell
SF: LeBron James/Kevon Looney
SG: JJ Redick/Patrick McCaw
PG: Steph Curry/Shaun Livingston

With this squad, it's game over. It might take some time for them to get chemistry but once they do there's no stopping them. 16-0 in the postseason for sure. Redick and Lopez would be leaving a lot of money on the table but I bet they'd do it for a chance to play a big role on the greatest team ever assembled.

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13 Jul 2017 17:04:51
2013 NBA Re-Draft

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
Actual pick: Anthony Bennett, PF
Do-over pick: Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF

It didn't take the Cavs long to figure out that Anthony Bennett was one of the biggest draft busts in NBA history. A little over a year after the Cavs drafted Bennett, he was shipped to Minnesota in a deal that brought All-Star PF Kevin Love to CLE. Bennett has continued to do nothing as a T-wolf.

Meanwhile, the 15th overall pick Giannis Antetokounmpo has blossomed into an All-NBA Second Team player in just his fourth season. Giannis lead the Milwaukee Bucks in points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals for the entire 2016-17 campaign(!) en route to a playoff berth. The Greek Freak is currently a three point shot away from becoming a consistent MVP threat.

Kyrie Irving's body control along with the prospect of acquiring Kevin Love was enough to convince LeBron to bring his talents back home in 2014. Imagine if the Cavs had Kyrie Irving and Giannis Antetokounmpo? Although it wasn't super obvious Giannis would be a star after his rookie year, he possessed a rare combination of length and athleticism: the same combination that made LeBron intrigued with center Tristan Thompson. With LeBron at the 4 and Giannis at the 3, a Kevin Love trade is no longer necessary. The Cavs could keep their 2014 and '15 first rounders and use them to address depth issues. A LeBron-Giannis-Kyrie Big 3 would currently be the best trio in the NBA in my opinion, although GSW might have something to say about that. Oh, what could've been...

2. Orlando Magic
Actual pick: Victor Oladipo, SG
Do-over pick: Rudy Gobert, C

Victor Oladipo hasn't been a bust, but he also hasn't been the franchise player the Magic were hoping he'd be. Orlando traded Oladipo to OKC in 2016 for Serge Ibaka, and a year later the Thunder traded him to the Pacers as part of a package for Paul George.

The 27th overall pick Rudy Gobert has developed into the kind of defensive center that would remind Magic fans of Dwight Howard in his prime. In his fourth season, Gobert was named to both the All-NBA Second Team and the All-Defensive First Team. Although he's still nothing special offensively (14 ppg) Gobert has the upside to be the best overall center in the game one day and a multiple DPOY winner.

Gobert would have given the Magic something they've lacked since Dwight Howard: a true franchise player. Rudy would have fit right in with a franchise that has only made the finals with a center as its best player (Shaq in 1995, Howard in 2009). The Magic are far from contention, but they'd be a lot closer with Gobert as the face of the franchise.

3. Washington Wizards
Actual pick: Otto Porter Jr., SF
Do-over pick: CJ McCollum, SG

Otto Porter has been a nice fit in Washington alongside Bradley Beal and John Wall: when Beal is actually playing. Beal has battled injuries throughout his career. Porter and Beal will make a combined $48.6 Million next year, pretty outrageous considering the skill and reliability of both.

McCollum has developed into the perfect complement for Damian Lillard in Portland. His scoring and sweet-shooting would help to take the pressure off any star. McCollum would be a better, more reliable backcourt complement to John Wall than Beal. The Wizards could have easily traded Beal for a veteran small forward or for draft picks. Everything is crystal clear in hindsight though.

4. Charlotte Bobcats
Actual pick: Alex Len, C
Do-over pick: Steven Adams, C

Alex Len is another bust of this class. The Suns have to be kicking their-selves for passing on Gobert and Steven Adams.

Adams has developed into a nice starting center in this league, capable of averaging a double-double while being a good defender. Adams can protect the rim and close out on shooters very well for a big man. The Suns wouldn't be forced to start an over-priced Tyson Chandler at center with Adams around.

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1.) 13 Jul 2017 19:24:50
The issue with the first scenario is nobody considered Giannis that high of a prospect and a major project at that. If they did select him and didn't trade for Love (kept Wiggins) then that likely wouldn't have been enough to convince Lebron to come back to Cleveland with Giannis a major question mark. They likely still would've had to have made that Love trade to attract Lebron (Lebron clearly signed with the promise the Twolves would trade Wiggins for Love) .

Magic are a mess. Oladipo wasn't that bad a pick given that draft class and as great a defensive force Gobert is without another star on their team Magic wouldn't be much better than they are now. Its highly unlikely they would've drafted a center with a young Vucevic putting in a strong season the year prior.

I don't view McCollum as an upgrade over Beal the only advantage is that he'd been healthy although Beal was able to do that this past year. Those same injuries would tarnish Beal's trade value so I doubt they'd get anyone better than Porter is now especially nobody as young as him. McCollum is being paid basically just as much as Beal. Don't see this switch making much if any difference.


2.) 14 Jul 2017 13:54:16
If Steven Adams is going at 4
it's a real thin draft.


3.) 15 Jul 2017 03:47:56
My top 10 retake of the draft

1 Cleveland - Greek freak (Kyrie, wiggins, Greek freak)
2 Orlando - Cj McCollom (could've used a 20 point scorer)
3 Washington - R Gobert ( wall, beal, gobert lineup scary)
4 Charlotte - N Noel ( defense walker, mkg, Noel)
5 Phoenix - O Porter ( 3&d alongside Bledsoe and booker)
6 Philadelphia - V Oladipo ( best player available )
7 Sacramento - KCP ( sac choose different gaurd who can defend)
8 Detroit - B McLemore ( more of a sweet shooter for Drummond)
9 Utah - D Shroeder ( way better then trey burke)
10 Portland - S Adams ( Adams + Aldridge would of been fun)

Unlucky c zeller, k Olynyk, A Crabbe, g Dieng.


4.) 17 Jul 2017 14:33:39
My retake of that top 10

1. Cleveland - Giannis Antetokounmpo ( Kyrie, Wiggins, Greek freak would be cool)
2. Orlando - Cj McCollom ( no clear option grabbing a 20+ point player isn't bad )
3. Washington - Rudy Gobert ( a core now of Wall, Beal and Gobert would be scary)
4. Charlotte - Nerlons Noel ( defensive beast to pair with walker and mkg)
5. Phoenix - Otto Porter ( adds defence and 3pt shooting next to booker and Bledsoe)
6. Philadelphia - Victor Oladipo ( needed everything best player available )
7. Sacramento - KCP ( sac town can't develop sg's but kcp can defend well)
8. Detroit - Ben McLemore ( with right development could become sweet 3 and d )
9. Utah - Dennis Schroeder ( they were looking for a pg and he's a lot better then Burke)
10. Portland - Steven Adams (Adams and Aldridge pairing would compliment each other)



Unlucky - Cody Zeller, Allen Crabbe, Gorgui Dieng, Kelly Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2016 22:51:05
Cavs get Dwight Howard

Rockets get Kevin Love

It's pretty apparent that the Cavs need a lot of help on defense, and Kevin Love doesn't provide that. His offensive stats have taken a huge hit since Kyrie Irving has returned to the lineup and Love just simply isn't a good defender. Howard, on the other hand, is still one of if not the best defensive big man in the game and still has plenty left in the tank as evident by his recent 36 point 26 rebound outing. Most importantly, Howard wants to win now and is hungry for a ring; so he should have no problem accepting a not-so prominent offensive role in Cleveland. James and Irving should be able to capitalize on plenty of alley-oop passes to the big man however and a Howard-Tristan Thompson front court would be nasty defensively (assuming they don't bring in a stretch four like Markieff Morris) .

The Rockets on the other hand have a putrid defense that would get much worse with swapping Howard for Love. The Rockets really don't have a chance at contending in the West this season anyway, so tanking the rest of this year and getting a good lottery pick seems like the best course of action. Love is younger than Howard, much more dynamic offensively, and is under contract for the next several seasons. Howard is likely to opt out of the final year of his deal this summer and leave Houston if he isn't traded by the deadline. This move would give Houston a legit 1-2 scoring punch in Harden and Love that they can build around over the next couple of years. They would need to surround this duo with top notch defenders if they want to contend, but that is feasible.

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06 Jul 2015 03:09:31
NBA Talk

Do you think the Cavaliers would've been better off trading Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, and the future first round pick to the Portland Trailblazers for Lamarcus Aldrige instead of to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love?

It's an interesting idea. Aldrige is a better defender than Love and shoots at a higher percentage from the field, but Love is a better rebounder and much better three point shooter. Another aspect to consider is age: Love will only be 27 in September whereas Aldrige turns 30 this month. In my opinion, Love is a better fit offensively alongside LeBron James and Kyrie Irving because Love is a three point shooter who can spread the floor and create space for the ball handlers. Aldrige could create space with his mid range jumpers but he wouldn't serve as a threat from three (27.6 % from three in his career).

Ultimately, I think the Cavs made the right choice by going with Love. He's younger, a superior rebounder/3 PT shooter and better fits the team in Cleveland (IMO). I could see Aldrige making a lot of sense though, so I want to hear some other opinions. What would you have done?

Rerur

1.) 06 Jul 2015 14:15:28
The Cavs would've been better off with Aldrige. His efficient low-post offense and mid-range game would perfectly complement LeBron and Kyrie. Aldrige would also have provided more help on defense than Love and Aldrige had actual playoff experience prior to this season. Aldrige could've been a leader on this team alongside LeBron and in my opinion the Cavs would've beaten the Warriors had Aldrige been on the team and healthy for the Finals.


 

 

20 Mar 2015 16:13:22
If the Cavs never traded for Love, they could be trading for Durant Right now.

Thunder get Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, two first round picks

Cavs get Kevin Durant

Imagine how good the Cavs would be right now. Plus the Thunder would get a young future superstar to replace Durant.

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04 Feb 2019 14:43:22
@Fredman fair enough huckleberry.

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03 Feb 2019 17:11:55
@shizee how much of a chance at a title run do the Celtics really have? Getting past Toronto and Milwaukee will be hard enough, then once you get past them you have the Golden State megateam to deal with. With Kyrie out of the mix the Celtics can go back to playing the way they did in last year’s postseason: team basketball. It’d also be great for Tatum’s development.

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23 Jan 2019 17:41:36
@JoeB how is it not “nearly” enough? The Pelicans would be lucky to get a true young superstar for AD. They could get two stars for the price of one if Fultz pans out. I could understand wanting to add draft picks but I’d say the value is close. Simmons is younger than Embiid and still on his rookie deal, meaning the Pelicans would have more guaranteed time to build with him. Trade for Embiid and you’re on the clock to build a contender around him before his next free agency. No ball dominant guard in Simmons means more touches to go around, although sharing touches with AD might hurt his stats. If everyone is willing to sacrifice to win they could make it work.

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23 Jan 2019 05:16:43
@Fredmam is huckleberry an option?

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22 Jan 2019 06:51:31
Worst trade ever.

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