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21 Feb 2017 15:29:51
The Beginnings of a deal, Three Teams
Boston, Chicago, Denver
Boston
trades: Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Tyler Zeller
Chicago
trades: Jimmy Butler, Nikola Mirotic, M. Carter-Williams
Denver
Trades: Danilo Gallinari, Kenneth Faried, Wilson Chandler, Emanuel Mudiay, Malik Beasley A 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.
Boston
Receives: Danilo Gallinari, Michael Carter-Williams, Malik Beasley
Chicago
Receives: Jaylen Brown, Emanuel Mudiay, Wilson Chandler, Kenneth Faried, Denver's 2017 1st round pick,
Denver
Receives: Jimmy Brown, Tyler Zeller, Nikola Mirotic, Marcus Smart
Chicago does this: They get great young/1st round talent in J.Brown and E.Mudiay; for which Chicago has been rumored to have interest in both players, + they get better than average talent in Wilson Chandler and Kenneth Faried, + 1st round pick.
Boston does this: because they get a top-level NBA shooter in Danilo Gallinari for which they have had interest, they get a solid back up PG in Michael Carter-Williams, they get young SG talent in Malik Beasley. And lastly, they make a trade like this without letting go of their Nets pick.
Denver does this: because they get an all-star level player in Jimmy Butler, they going to have to take on some contracts in Tyler Zeller, Nikola Mirotic. But they get a great starter/to possibly back up PG in Marcus Smart. After probably releasing one or two of their excess contracts. Denver has made some much needed room on their bench.
1.) 21 Feb 2017 16:08:09
No way the Celtics I've up the #3 overall pick from last year and Marcus Smart, who has played really well recently and can guard almost every position for an injury prone Gallanari.
2.) 21 Feb 2017 17:02:07
It'll rain chain saw before Ainge gives up Smart and Brown for Gallinari.
21 Feb 2017 02:47:43
The beginnings of a deal, Three Teams
Boston, Chicago, Denver
Boston
trades: Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Tyler Zeller
Chicago
trades: Jimmy Butler, Nikola Mirotic, M. Carter-Williams
Denver
Trades: Danilo Gallinari, Kenneth Faried, Wilson Chandler, Emanuel Mudiay, Malik Beasley A 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.
Boston
Receives: Danilo Gallinari, Michael Carter-Williams, , Malik Beasly
Chicago
Receives: Jaylen Brown, Emanuel Mudiay, Wilson Chandler, Kenneth Faried, Denver's 2017 1st round pick
Denver
Receives: Jimmy Brown, Tyler Zeller, Nikola Mirotic, Marcus Smart
Chicago does this: Because they get great young/1st round talent in J.Brown and E.Mudiay; for which Chicago has been rumored to have interest in both players, + they get better than average talent in Wilson Chandler and Kenneth Faried, + Denver's 1st round pick to add to their own.
Boston does this: because they get a top level NBA talent in Danilo Gallinari for which they have had interest, they get a very solid back up PG in Michael Carter-Williams, they get young SG talent in Malik Beasly. And !lastly!, they make a trade like this (without) letting go of their Nets pick.
Denver does this: because they get an all-star level player in Jimmy Butler, they do have to take on some contracts in Tyler Zeller, Nikola Mirotic. But they get a great starter/to possibly back up PG in Marcus Smart. After probably releasing one or two of their excess contracts. Denver has made some much needed room on their bench.
1.) 21 Feb 2017 03:10:12
Can't imagine Celtics doing that. Not only are they helping another team get the player they want (Butler) but Brown AND Smart for Gallinari who is someone they could just sign in FA (they'll have over 30mill in cap space) is not the type of move Ainge would make. MCW is also a FA and a downgrade pretty much across the board from Smart while Beasley is very raw and wouldn't crack Celtics rotation.
Denver are the clear winners. and would still have considerable cap space to make runs at Millsap, Griffin or a point guard in free agency.
Not sure Bulls would deal Butler for that offer either. I think they can get a better offer if they dealt him to Celtics even if Brooklyn 2017 wasn't included.
2.) 21 Feb 2017 03:31:15
Boston says NO.
25 Dec 2016 14:33:39
The Sacramento Kings and The Denver Nuggets
Denver trades: their young Big man Jusuf Nurkic and one of their recent draftees Juancho Hernangomez
Sacramento trades: their young Big man Willie Cauley-Stein and one of their recent draftees Skal Labissiere.
Trade machine has this working in favor of the Kings. I see it as being mutually beneficial for both teams.
When the Kings trade Bogie (and it looks like they will), they will want a large suitable replacement. Nurkic can definitely be that, he is young but becoming established. And he can relate to the Kings GM. Juancho is young blood, with a very smooth consistent game. Which the Kings could use new blood. He can definitely work towards re-energizing that organization.
W. C. S is from the mid west area, just east of Denver. With the trades Denver needs to make, there would be room for him to re-discover his game at Center. Skal is a young big with skill, but bouncing back and forth between the NBA and the D-league. M. M is coach that's great with helping young Bigs establish themselves.
12 Jul 2015 15:03:01
Denver and Philadelphia
Nuggets trade Ty Lawson.
76's trade Joel Embiid and a First round pick.
Maybe throw in a couple more complementary players from either side, but that is the meat of the deal.
1.) 12 Jul 2015 15:30:31
You're brave posting a trade in which Embiid leaves the 76's & they don't receive the world and more in return.
2.) 12 Jul 2015 16:54:57
Sixers won't trade embiid unless the surgery goes poorly. Right now he's still a guy with potential if he heals correctly. He could be a game changer. I'll admit his value is low right now but you don't trade when your guy has low value. You trade when they have the highest value. I think I'd rather just wait embiid out them give him away for nothing. Btw Lawson has very little value right now. Getting a first for him is going to be hard enough.
3.) 12 Jul 2015 20:16:13
It's just stupid. Lawson is basically only worth a first so you're treating Embiid as just a throw-in. If the Sixers wanted Lawson, they can easily put together a package that doesn't include Embiid.
4.) 12 Jul 2015 20:49:17
Not sure what you're pointing at Tom? Most Sixer fans want to see the three guys all dressed for the home team.
5.) 13 Jul 2015 00:38:21
Embiid is a throw in , he is the next Greg Oden
6.) 13 Jul 2015 12:39:06
One of the 3 you'd have to assume is going at some point.
I'm not being funny but drafting an injured player, who has an injury to a bone in his foot, which subsequently is the bone that takes the longest to heal in the whole of the body was a poor move from Hinkie, no matter what potential is/was there.
If the sixers are waiting for him to be healthy where he can compete night in, night out before they start building their team, assuming that they're wanting to build around him, how long are they going to be waiting?
He has little value for a reason. Not because he can't be a good player but because he has a very serious injury. Its not an injury you can just brush off. He will never reach his max potential because of the injury. Those day's are gone. Sixers fan's saying they wouldn't cut their losses now they have Okafor & take a reasonable deal are very fickle. Especially when the deals can make you're team better & provide what they need. Guards & wings.
7.) 13 Jul 2015 14:30:10
It might turn out to be a bone headed (footed) selection. But looking back in retrospect, we won't know until everything plays out such as who turns out to be a player that was considered at that spot. But surely you're right and his value is very low right now.
But, at this point the Sixers are all-in with the kid. They're not going to move him, I think, until he has a healthy full season. That may never happen. But they're not dumping the kid just yet. Hinkie has an investment background. That would be buy high, sell low.
I don't think they can count on him to be the centerpiece. With Noel and Oak, they won't have to.
And there's really no reason to move him now. They're not looking for the final missing piece to go over the top. They don't need an extra draft pick. They don't need salary cap relief. And I don't think Ty Lawson is the guy they'd pursue in any event. They might move him at some point but the guy the get will fit a specific mold.
8.) 13 Jul 2015 18:26:46
I agree, Lawson for Embiid wouldn't be the best deal for the 76ers, the only thing Lawson would bring is experience & spreading of the floor for Okafor & would be able to get him the ball in good spots.
I hope that Embiid does get fit, we need more skilled big men in the league. As fun as it is to watch small ball, a big man who can dominate games offensively, defensively & on the glass is special to watch. (Just look at Antony Davies.)
It would just be sour for the 76ers to wait for him to get fit, him not being able to & therefore taking a massive step back.
I guess we'll see what happens over the next couple of seasons.
9.) 13 Jul 2015 23:02:46
Hey, I'd think I'd like to see a real professional PG in Philly. I think Hinkie would try to accomplish it without losing Embiid. That seems to be his style.
Actually, Hinkie hasn't really ever traded "up" for a player. He always so far has been a vulture and focused on someone else's problems. Will be curious to see if/when he changes his approach.
10.) 14 Jul 2015 13:12:40
I also sincerely hope that Embiid makes a full recovery. Had more to write on ptnl trade, but think that I'll keep it simple and say that "I hope he heals up correctly and soon."
20 May 2015 02:15:36
Philadelphia and Denver
Nuggets Trade: Ty Lawson, Jusuf Nurkic and a 2016 1st round pick.
76ers Trade: Joel Embiid and 2015 #3 pick
1.) 20 May 2015 07:52:30
this is a joke??
2.) 20 May 2015 13:33:59
It's not very funny. Just an awful proposal.
3.) 20 May 2015 13:55:33
Well let's take a look at it.
Denver is trading a relatively young but playoff experienced PG with All-star talent. To a team that has pretty much no veteran presence, and currently has just 1 pg on the team making the (rookie min). Also Denver would be trading a very young big, with a diff skill set and was for a little bit, in the conversation for ROY in 2015. Phly does have Bigs, but all of them are basically the same type of player. And Denver would also be sending a potentially high 1st round pic in 2016.
Philadelphia is trading a 1st round pick from last year with a lot of potential but has had a broken foot and has yet to see the court. And trading the #3 pick in this years draft.
02 Jul 2016 21:26:44
Not a bad trade.
04 May 2016 04:47:28
Uh, no offense but if that's "selling low" on Cousins, then the NUGGETS definitely say no. I hope they wouldn't give up their highest pick in this upcoming draft, a promising young Big "granted coming off an injury season" but on a decent contract. Then throw in one of their best shooters/ if not their best player over the last 5 years. For a one player that some. (some) say may be the best big in the league. only when every thing lines up. But in reality, most of the time he's been your teams biggest problem child with the largest contract. Doesn't seem to add up.
06 Aug 2015 03:34:51
Sorry Suns fan, Nuggets say No!
14 Jul 2015 13:12:40
I also sincerely hope that Embiid makes a full recovery. Had more to write on ptnl trade, but think that I'll keep it simple and say that "I hope he heals up correctly and soon."
12 Jul 2015 03:38:09
So Denver gets pretty much nobody for Lawson and Chandler? Thinking they'd say "Na."