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05 Feb 2018 23:05:42
76ers get: TT, JR Smith, Zizic and Nets Pick
Cavs get: Redick, Bayless
Cavs get the shooting they need in Redick and is able to dump JRS and TT.
Philly can use TT because they don't have a back up C.
What do you think guys?
1.) 05 Feb 2018 23:32:42
So Cleveland is going to trade a top 10 pick for half a season of a role player?
2.) 05 Feb 2018 23:40:19
That's awful for the Cavs. Why would they dump Thompson, when they already need another center and with love out would have to start Frye? Also, why try to dump salary for this summer? If Lebron and IT walk, the Cavs will be under the cap, but have limited assets to rebuild with. Even if they would swing a sign and trade for one of them, they could take on a significant amount of money before hitting the luxury tax. This trade doesn't help the Cavs currently or in the future.
3.) 06 Feb 2018 00:42:17
I wouldn't trade the nets pick for those guys.
4.) 06 Feb 2018 01:36:18
Hell no.
5.) 06 Feb 2018 01:41:27
This is why CLE probably doesn't trade the picks unless Love is involved. Most of their players are overpaid, and it will cost the picks just to unload them. I wouldn't want Shumpert, or Thompson. Zizic, Osman are ok value-wise. Frye, and Rose are great for a salary dump, but their contracts are small.
31 Jan 2018 16:46:29
If Pelicans decide to rebuild:
76ers get: A. Davis, Noah, Lance Thomas
Send: TLC, McConnell, Saric, Korkmaz, Redick, Johnson, Booker, 2018 1st rounder, Lakers/Kings pick, 2020 1st rounder, 3 second rounders 2018 and 2019, 2019 swap rights
Knicks get: Cousins, Redick, McConnell, 1 second rounder in 2018 and 2019
Send: Noah, Thomas, Hernangomez, Ntilikina, Lee, 2018 1st rounder
Pelicans get: Booker, Johnson, Lee, Ntilikina, Saric, Korkmaz, Hernangomez, TLC, Knicks and 76ers 2018 1st rounder, Lakers/Kings pick, 2019 swap rights with 76ers, 76ers 2020 1st rounder, 2 2nd rounders in 2018 and 2019 from 76ers
Send: Davis and Cousins
Knicks do it because they unload Noah. Redick comes from the area and would likely resign. Pairing Cousins with Porzingis would be awesome and McConnell is a great back-up and extremely cheap
Pelicans just do it if they think they can't compete for a championship soon. With this offer they get their future pg and some really good and young role players in TLC, Hernangomez and Saric. They also have 4 1st rounders this year in the range 10-20 (don't think Lakers end up in the top 5). They can use Lee, Johnson and Booker to get more picks
1.) 31 Jan 2018 17:17:28
The Sixes don't own the the 2018 Lakers pick. The Celtics do. The Sixer's only get it back if it's not 2 thru 5. If they do get it back, the Celtics get the 2019 Kings pick.
2.) 31 Jan 2018 17:56:25
@Yumbo: I took that into account. I wrote Lakers/ Kings pick and "They also have 4 1st rounders this year in the range 10-20 (don't think Lakers end up in the top 5)" --> meant with that, that the Pelicans most likely have 4 first rounders this year because the Lakers pick doesn't seem to fall in the range 2-5. But you're right if it does they just have 3 this year but also 2 next year.
3.) 31 Jan 2018 19:09:52
knicks would obviously say no. its essentially an expiring for an injured center. They give up solid pieces and this years first and next years first. makes no sense.
reddick is not someone they want, he doesn't not coincide with their timeline. They basically do this to get noah off the books, why not just trade noah with a 1st and sign cousins outright? or noah with nikitilina, and still hold on to the bevy of assets they would be giving out?
4.) 31 Jan 2018 19:20:05
Plus, why would NY want Coudins? He's out for the year and a FA after the season.
5.) 31 Jan 2018 23:21:25
@Hamburger: you say trade noah with Ntilikina to get him of the books. For me that's exactly the value they have to give up. If not even more. The other things the knicks give, are Hernangomez who didn't play much. So you might get a 2nd rounder. Then you also give your 1st rounder and lee. Therefore you get McConnell who has some value (late first rounder) and Redick + 2nd rounders and Cousins. I think pairing Porzingis with Cousins would be great. And if you have him around you can easier convince him to sign a longterm deal. Also Porzingis wants to win now. With cousins, THJ, Redick you would be way better than now. If nobody signs you are one of only a few teams with cap space. I would do it.
6.) 01 Feb 2018 21:18:05
Man just stop. The only thing worse than an AD trade is a lengthy one with all these excuses to justify NOLA trading AD. Lame.
30 Jan 2018 10:46:47
76ers/Suns:
Bayless, Booker, top 12 protected 2018 1st rounder ( if it doesn't convey the 2 best 2nd rounders) for Bender and Monroe
1.) 30 Jan 2018 14:47:01
Yeah Phoenix gives up bender along with cap space for 2 second round pics, and 2 scrubs. Man why aren't you a gm.
28 Jan 2018 10:21:52
Pelicans rebuild:
A. Davis to Celtics for Brown, Tatum, Rozier, Morris, Yabusele and Lakers/Kings, Memphis picks
Celtics get big 4 with Horford, Hayward, Irving and Davis that's Why they overpay
Cousins for Kanter and Ntilikina and 2019 1st rounder
Pelicans have 3 players in Brown, Tatum and Ntilikina to build around
1.) 28 Jan 2018 16:36:26
I like this trade for NY
Cousins should go to the East.
2.) 28 Jan 2018 16:53:27
I really can't see the Pelicans getting much for Cousins unless they use him as an expiring contract. There is a fairly good chance he never plays a second for whatever team he would be traded to and he wouldn't even really have a connection to his teammates since he probably won't be able to even get shots up or anything until after the season.
3.) 28 Jan 2018 16:54:17
Wtf are talking about? I would no do Kanter for Cousins. Who knows how someone will be after Achilles tear. terrible idea. Cousins bigger version Melo. All stats never has this guy won leading team in mba.
27 Jan 2018 16:03:04
Philly-Suns
Suns get Bayless, Booker, Holmes, Lakers/Kings Pick (Pick which doesn't convey to the celtics)
76ers get Bender, Monroe
Philly gets rid of Bayless and gets the perfect back-up for Embiid in Bender
Suns get an additionally pick for the rebuild
1.) 27 Jan 2018 16:12:13
Getting rid of Bayless and getting bender isn't worth a lottery pick. Bender still has potential, but he hasn't even been as good as Holmes to this point.
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29 May 2017 23:25:25
I have an other proposal to phillymikes offer. Prefer to get rid of all the 2nd rounder.
1. Phi/Portland
Anderson+ #39+ 2018 and 2019 Phi 2nd Rd for #20
2. Phi/Nets
Henderson+#36+#50+Nets 2018 2nd Rd+ OKC 2020 1st for #22
I think Nets das yes. Maybe 76ers have to add a bit for Portland.
With these picks:
Trade Okafor, McConnell +#20+#22+ Phi 2018 1st Rd top 5 protected (2019 unprotected)+ all 3 future Nicks 2nd Rd (2018-2021) for pick No. 8
With that Knicks can start to rebuild and 76ers have:
PG: Simmons, Bayless, Rodriguez
SG: #8 (Monk/Ntilikina), Korkmaz, Stauskas
SF: #3 (Jackson/Tatum)/TLC
PF: Covington/Saric
C: Embiid, Holmes, Splitter
1.) 30 May 2017 11:22:43
Portland needs cap relief which 2nd rounders down the line can help with (cheap non-guaranteed contracts) but I don't see them giving up the #20 pick for that when they could use it to move a big contract like Crabbe which would have a more immediate impact to solving cap issues.
I don't think Nets say yes to that offer either since they need the benefit of a 1st round talent.
Additionally, I don't think that gets 76ers the #8 pick even if they took Noah's contract too. If Knicks wanted to start rebuild they'd want to keep #8 pick or at least get rid of Melo and Noah's contracts when parting with #8.
In general I think you are overvaluing 2nd rounders a lot. 76ers would be smart to deal them tho since they have more than they could ever realistically use or need.
29 May 2017 19:09:19
76ers/Portland:
Anderson + #39 for #26
76ers/Nets:
#36+#50+2018 Nets 2nd Rd+ OKC 2020 1st Rd+ Henderson for #22
76ers/Knicks:
Okafor+McConnell+#22+#26+2018 PHI 1st Rd top 5 protected (2019 unprotected)+all 3 future Knicks 2nd Rd (2018-2021) for pick No.8
PHI:
PG: Simmons, Bayless, Rodriguez
SG: #8 (Monk/Ntilikina), Korkmaz, Stauskas
SF: #3 (Jackson/Tatum), TLC
PF: Covington, Saric
C: Embiid, Holmes
Thoughts?
1.) 31 May 2017 22:34:09
that knicks trade is moronic. no.
21 Feb 2017 22:19:33
If Lillard is available the 76ers should try to get him.
They can offer Saric, Okafor, Bayless, Henderson, Lakers Pick, 76ers '18 1st.
05 Feb 2017 19:38:14
Hey guys, I think the 76ers won't trade before the season is over. Actually they don't need many positions to fill. I just look at which players the team could have next season.
Pg: -/McConnell/Rande
SG: -/Stauskas
SF: Simmons/Covington
PF: Saric
C: Embiid/ Holmes
At Power forward I can imagine they resign Ersan or they trade for Porter and give up the Kings swap the 2019 Kings 1st and Noel what means they move simmons to the 4. I think the wizards accept as they would have problems to have a good bench if they give him a max deal. Additionally they would pick in the top 10 this year. 76ers use their own pick (Rang 4-8) for a SG and then they still have Okafor/ 2018 1st/ 2018st lakers/ Bayless/henderson/luwawu/korkmaz to get pick 1/2. I think they can get one of these two picks with that (maybe additionally Noel and 2019 Kings 1st). Best case they get the lakers pick this year. So they won't have to move up to far.
Could that be the best strategy?
1.) 05 Feb 2017 22:07:17
I don't think you can trade the swap rights of a pick unless you trade the entire pick itself. So 76ers would have to give up their pick which I think is a bit rich especially when I really like Monk as a fit for them and should be available. I don't think its worth them moving up to one or two to get Ball or Fultz.
I think they'd certainly be great to have but not at the price that it would cost to get them and I think with Simmons already capable of playing the playmaker, point forward role a shooter like Monk would suffice.
I think resigning Ersan for two years maximum and drafting Monk would be a solid start. I'd then try and get a 3 and D pg/ sg to play at whatever position Monk isn't playing (not sure which position defensively would be better for him)
08 Mar 2018 20:47:01
Philly says no. They already have 4 second rounders this and next years. They can get a better and younger version of corver in fa for the same amount. And pick 11 for 18 and a late 1st rounder in 3 years isn't enough.
07 Mar 2018 20:28:34
Spurs don't trade for Lee. Kanter won't walk. He has a player option.
05 Mar 2018 23:03:24
Was says no. They take Noah and give up Wall, Oubre and a first for a player with a torn ACL?!
24 Feb 2018 18:35:17
So Spurs trade Leonard for Porzingis with an acl and 2 bad contracts? Never. Cavs will never do this as well.
Only the Knicks profit. Give up a player with an acl and get back a top 3 player, top 10 pick and a young good pf and also dump kanter. . that will never happen.
21 Feb 2018 17:15:56
@tombrady: I totally agree. On the other side I don't think the 76ers want Wiggins as well. Next year he's overpaid. He also doesn't fit next to Simmons.