18 Apr 2015 05:43:07
New York trades #2 pick and Jose Calderon to Philly for Nerlens Noel, Jerami Grant and Henry Sims.
New York signs Reggie Jackson, Wes Matthews, and Greg Monroe all in the 10 Mil market, and resign Galloway, Bargnani, Acy, and Aldrich
Jackson/Galloway/Larkin
Matthews/Hardaway/Antetokoumpo
Anthony/Grant/Early
Monroe/Sims/Acy
Noel/Bargnani/Aldrich
18 Apr 2015 14:27:30
First, the Sixers do not want Calderon. He's 33 and has $25 mil and three years left on his contract. He's a negative to this trade, not a positive. If the Knicks approached the Sixers about thim, the Sixers would respond that they would take Calderon and a draft choice and send the Knicks back a bucket of used socks.
Second, the Sixers would not trade Noel for the #2 pick in the draft? A healthy Noel arguably could have been the #1 pick in his draft. Now he's healthy, and growing and performing. Why trade that away for another guy that you'll have to try to grow into Noel, who is already 2 years ahead?
Third, why would the Sixers then add Grant and Sims to the deal, given the above two points.
The Knicks are the worst franchise in the league for a reason. They have no assets to trade, their contracts are awful, their best players is a ball hog, and they don't even have their own first round pick in 2016.
They should be considering trading out of their spot and recouping draft picks for the future. Maybe they trade their top pick to the Sixers for some of the stockpile of first rounders they have. That makes more sense for both teams.
18 Apr 2015 14:40:57
Philly passes. Quickly
18 Apr 2015 16:51:10
too much invested in Noel to start another project. and Calderon is worthless and costly. Sixers say NO
18 Apr 2015 17:43:39
I'd consider Noel for the second pick and Tim hardaway jr.
Calderon is a negative value in the trade. So no way I take on his contract in a Noel trade. Sixer would use that pick probably to replace him the best they can.
18 Apr 2015 23:24:28
Philly rich.2 years, 15 mill. Where'd the extra year and 10 mill come from?
18 Apr 2015 23:28:22
Philly rich.Noel would not be top 2 in this draft. Mayyyyybe 3 or 4. The worst franchise is not even close to the Knicks. When's the last time philly had a winning season? Made the playoffs? Heck when did they win over 30 games in a season? Knicks draw free agents, philly repulses them. If the sixers were offered say okafor or towns and Calderon for Noel and 2 ok role players, they'd have to seriously consider it. Noel is great sefensively. Yet gets bullied down low. He has zero offensive game besides being a scrawny deandre Jordan. Stop being so mad about your awful franchise. It wasn't that bad of a trade lol.
19 Apr 2015 12:46:26
Yes, Pizza - it was awful.
19 Apr 2015 13:25:59
No boy. It wasn't. The Knicks wouldn't do this anyways. Noel is a solid prospect. Needs to add massive amounts of weight to not get bullied down under. Has zero offensive game besides dunks. He's a prospect and a couple years away at best.
Pizza:
1. Here's my reference for Calderon's contract. Actually, now that I look at it, I'm not so sure of the last year at $11m: http://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/jose-calderon/
2. Regarding the worse franchise, I'm talking about as they are currently situated. History is history. I"m talking about talent, built up draft picks, cap space, culture, etc. And their best player is an ageing, injured, ball hog. I wouldn't take him on the Sixers with that contract if the Knicks put him in the limo and paid for the gas.
3. The Sixers would not trade Noel for the #2 pick in this draft. Why would they? To replace him with a big? They have him, they love him, they love his personality, how he fits their culture. No, they wouldn't do it.
4. Again, you value Calderon. The Sixers would see him as a negative. Haven't you seen the Sixers take on those players and receive picks just to absorb the money?
5. I'm not so sure the Knicks will attract free agents. They saw what happened with Amare S. when he got mixed in with Carmello. And we in Philly have lots of experience trying to find guys to fit in with our own ball hog- Iverson. NY is a tougher sell for FA than you think.
6. I'm not mad about my franchise. I have kind of enjoyed the experiment. The Cowboys pulled it off in the 80s. I understand philosophically where they want to go. It takes time. The youth coming out of the draft doesn't seem to really hit for 2-3 years. There are exceptions. But they're coming out very, very young.