19 Apr 2015 01:14:45
Ugh my last trade got sent before I finished the details. Let's try again.
Sixers take advantage of their cap space ( currently only 24 million in garrenteed deals) and first rounders.
Sixers trade their first this season( 3rd overall) the lakers pick and the okc pick.
Pacers trade Paul George
Sixers then sign kawhi Leonard to a front loaded contract. 25 mill first year and 15 to 20 the next three seasons. This huge first season money would destroy the Spurs if they sign him to a matching deal. They would be considerably over the cap causing taxing with Big names needing to be resigned as well. Be a tough time matching that deal.
This gives the Sixers around two to three million for free agents ( 24+25+16=65) and minium player signings unless cap increase this season coming.
Project starting five
Wroten( explosive point guard)
Leonard
George
Noel
Embiid
That's an instantly tough team. The teams bench will mostly be great vets on small contracts that want to win a chip.
This team would be really young. No one over 25 but have amazing talent and upside.
Should be a playoff team easily and still have even more cap room next year with McGee 12 million dollar contract coming off the books to sign another star after next years deep playoff run. And they'll still have there own and miamis first next season with Dario coming over as well. Huge upside here.
Thoughts.
Ps. Please ignore previously mis sent idea.
19 Apr 2015 13:19:12
Leonard would never sign that contract. You make it sound like he's trying anyway possible to get out of San Antonio in order to play for the sixers. Apparently embiid has been fined tremendously for refusing to go to rehab or conditioning. I'm sure that'll work out great for his career. Wroten is an explosive point guard? Yeah I'll just let that one sit lol. And you want to give up 3 firsts for George? Well that sounds rational. Otherwise great post.
19 Apr 2015 14:36:24
No. No. No.
Look, the Sixers seem to like their big guys: Noel, Embiid, T. Robinson, Sims and Saric if he ever gets here. They seem to like Grant and especially Covington at SF. And the really worked hard to build up those draft picks.
So why would they trade 3 first rounders for George, who's listed as a SF and then sign Leonard, who's also listed as a SF? And after looking at the Spurs box scores, Leonard is actually playing SF.
Plus, if they do that, they haven't filled any of their needs at PG or SG?
If the Sixers are going to do anything with those picks and cap space, I suspect they'll use them to find the right guy that fits what they need- most certainly not to create a roster problem at the SF position. They need a stud back court to go along with what they have. And they might be able to accomplish that without blowing what they've worked so hard to possess.
19 Apr 2015 15:27:08
I'm betting on Leonard having the vision to see that the Spurs are aging and even though pop is an amazing coach he can't create a Duncan from no where. Leonard would be their only player come 2017.
Now look at the Sixers. Embiid a high upside guy who was fined earlier in the season for missing none basketball activities. It's basically missing physical theory. You look at him now and that's almost a mute point. He's down in weight to at least 265 or 270. Super lean and made of muscle and of course. Only 20
Noel should be a defensive rookie of the year. His scoring isn't good enough for Roy but he also just started developing on the end of the floor toward the end of the season. Either way Embiid and Noel in the paint is scary good defensively at the very least.
Paul George is an excellent player who is only 25 but of course the injury hurts big time. Pacers were looking to rebuild according to many reports so three first is more then they could get in most deals. Sixers could even throw in the Miami pick of that gets the Deal done. George when healthy, and from what I saw in his limited action he's perfectly fine, is a defensive player who does it all. Rebounding scoring and most important for me. Defense!
Leonard is a free agent and he'd see those three defensive first players and relize not only could he get a crazy big contract to play in philly. But he's also creates probably the best defensive starting five in basketball. Leonard's probably the best defense sg in the game right now. George was one of the best defensive sf in the game. Noel should easily be defensive rookie of the year. And Embiid is suppose to be some kind of natural basketball superstar.
All this even after those deals the Sixers have cap space to sign a few more players.
Then next year McGee contract comes off the book as well an increase in the salary cap in general. The Sixers could be looking at another thirty million in cap space to add to that super defensive team come 2017 after a deep playoff run in 2016. Plus they'll have saric coming over( the best euro out there right now). Their own first rounder and the Miami first rounder. The potential is off the charts.
My point is Leonard wouldn't just be leaving the Spurs for the money. He'd be leaving for the team being better then the situation he's is currently.
This would be my pitch to him at the very least. You'd have to prove it to him first by getting George though. That's the part that's difficult. But sixers have all the assets to get a deal done for him.
19 Apr 2015 15:31:12
O yeah and wroten being explosive part. When he startered this season he averaged 20 point a game at age 20. The guy is out of control at times but he's as fast as anyone at the pg spot. That's why I called him explosive. Not a really great player. He just has to learn how to slow the game down and make smarter decisions. That comes with time. Again only twenty.
19 Apr 2015 16:31:16
I would love to sign Lenard(although he probably stays in SA), but not the trade for George. Logjam at sf, and no depth at all at guard. George, leonard, grant, and Covington are all best at SF. Use the pucks to build a backcourt. The guards develop quicker then the bigs. they will all be meshing in 2 years.
19 Apr 2015 17:50:49
Philly rich.
Because Leonard is a sg not a small forward. He can defend small forwards but that doesn't mean he can't play sg. Plus. If your telling my you'd rather have Covington or saric then Paul George or kawhi Leonard at either spots then your completely wrong. Saric is not a top twenty caliber player and neither is Covington. However having both come off the bench would be really impressive because they're good and solid players. That's how you build championship team. Take really good player and make them second best at those spots on your team.
19 Apr 2015 19:29:32
I like it but doubt leanord would sign in Philly and teams usually do not compete for championships without a top tier PG but I guess they could
19 Apr 2015 20:39:08
Leonard only signs in philly if we get Paul George. That's the point of the George trade. got to start with a star.
The goal is supposed to be four top twenty players in the league at the same time. You need at least two without giving up any of the ones you already have. Noel and Embiid.
19 Apr 2015 23:15:06
Hahah betting on Leonard selling out the Spurs for the sixers? Good one. That'll happen when embiid loses the attitude and actually stays healthy lol. Ridiculous.
20 Apr 2015 14:06:11
A) Spurs can afford to keep Leonard and not go into the luxury tax as right now they are $20 under the projected cap, and really only need to resign Duncan, Ginobili (who take hometown discounts) and Joseph (if they want him). Have you not noticed that they are trying to clear out Splitter so that they can try to sign Gasol to a max deal?
2) In 2017 Leonard will be only player left, which means the Spurs will have Pop, and give or take $80M to spend (assuming they don't get Gasol or Aldridge. Why would he want to leave when the Spurs will have the ability to build around him.
Philly, just stop, no one good wants to play for your crappy team.
20 Apr 2015 15:28:05
Yea right triangle o. Next year will be embiid,noel,covington,mcrae,wroten,ish,maybe saric, our 1st pick, grant,t rob, and next years 1st round picks, and we have a ton of money to spend. Its intriguing to other players because they know what the future is looking like and it is bright.
20 Apr 2015 16:36:37
Triangle O
and what makes you think people will want to play with a Spurs team without Parker Duncan and ginolbili?? Spurs are on the decline after those big name retire. And your not a major market especially once they retire. And Lenard's going to pull at least 15 to 20 million in a deal this offseason. So there goes your cap room to sign Duncan and ginolbili and not reach your cap. You can't add any other pieces until they retire and when they do you'll have Lenard and a small market to attract free agent of Duncan and Parker and ginolbili caliber. Good luck with that.
21 Apr 2015 14:16:29
Settle down there Philly fans, you are becoming as bad as Lakers fans.
76ers Future is Bright, did you suggest the Covington, McCrea, Ish Smith and T-Rob are all reasons why Leonard would want to come to Philly? Please, none of those players would have the good fortune of gracing the Spurs squad. Fact, T-Rob was released, fact, Ish Smith was given away for nothing. That's like saying Leonard would want to stay with the Spurs because they have Jeff Ayres, Patti Mills and Matt Bonner.
TreGib, Duncan and Ginobili only play one more year and they do it on the cheap, Sixers don't compete again next year, and then both teams have cap room. Do you really believe that a marquee FA is going to choose your middling or worse franchise over the Spurs?? OH THAT'S RIGHT, FA's are coming so that they can play with Ish and Covington, how could I forget.
I would bet $100 that the Spurs will still be a better team than your Sixers in 2016-17.