12 Aug 2015 21:10:35
76ers next moves:
Brett Brown is turning Sixers into Spurs of the East:
Sixers go totally unconventional to solve pg situation. Sign Brazilian Marcelo Huertas. Huertas is a high energy guy, great shot, decent size at 6'3". Reported earlier today that he wants to come to the nba this season in the right situation. He feels he can help a team now and help mentor a young pg. Sounds like a perfect fit for Philly. They are probably the only team that could guarantee him a great chance to start and pay him decent money. Yes a bit old at 32, but all Philly needs is someone to keep the seat warm and help develop the big guys.
Sixers are still going to land Morris as well.
Pg: Huertas/Wroten
Sg: Stauskas/Thompson
Sf: Covington/Grant
Pf: Noel/Morris
C: Okafor/Noel
13 Aug 2015 06:09:15
Philly is the Spurs of the East? That is laughable. Philly may be good in another few years but nowhere near the Spurs level.
13 Aug 2015 12:31:14
Oldskoolmagic:.it's a model the Sixers and Brown(a top spurs assistant for years) are loosely following. Building through the draft and acquiring overseas talent. Hell, I'd be happy with progress and 25-30 wins this year. I thought " is turning" obviously implies that they aren't there yet. Guess not.
13 Aug 2015 13:00:25
No so laughable.
1. The Spurs have won about 60% of their games each and every season since 1990. There is only a single exception, the year they intentionally tanked and won only 20 games. Many would call what they did in 1997 "tanking." The reward for tanking? Tim Duncan.
2. Just a few years before tanking, they drafted a Center who would not be able to play in the NBA for a couple of years. A big defensive presence. While waiting on this guy they won 21 games. They waited for David Robinson.
The Sixers have kind of mirrored that except Hinkie is doing it on steroids. Instead of a single bad year he's going for the hat-trick of bad years.
Hinkie has not had the benefit of getting the very first pick in the draft and taking the easy consensus #1 pick so he's taken the risk of drafting an injured Noel and injured Embiid.
We'll know if it worked in a few years. The Spurs won over 70% of their games the year before tanking for Duncan. They weren't a tear down and rebuild like the current Sixers.
Its not that far of a stretch to try to parallel the path taken by the Spurs and Sixers. Instead of calling it "laughable," maybe try to think it through a bit.
Everyone loves the Spurs now. But they flat out tanked and have been rewarded for it for almost 20 years.
13 Aug 2015 14:39:38
Someone really hates the Spurs right now
13 Aug 2015 15:03:09
I mean you respect the Spurs and what they done(I hope). Kinda looked like hating but I get what your saying
13 Aug 2015 15:12:48
Philly do you know when they start the hgh or drug or steroid testing whatever they call it? I wanna know who gets suspended and what not. Does start this season or next offseason?
13 Aug 2015 15:34:40
Lots of other teams have tanked. Lots of other teams have been building through the draft. Believe it or not, most teams have a player on their roster from over seas.
The T Wolves Have an overseas talent in Rubio. They have been building through the draft and tanked last year. Does that make them the next "Spurs of the West"?
You guys have a lot of young talent, but you have a losing culture, no veteran leadership to show these young players how to be professionals, and you're the front runner every year to get the #1 pick next summer. You're going to start losing these talented young guys one by one as they get to the end of their rookie contracts and it'll be revolving door until your fan base demands Hinkie gets fired.
13 Aug 2015 15:34:58
I don't hate the Spurs. They're a very professional organization. I was responding to the Magic fan above.
The Spurs started this run by tanking. That's the point. People beat on the Sixers for their course of action but have great admiration for the Spurs (now) without understanding what they did. You can't have it both ways- although I'm in the camp that Hinkie is over doing it.
13 Aug 2015 15:37:34
The NBA and the National Basketball Players Association announced today that blood testing for Human Growth Hormone (HGH) will commence under the league's anti-drug program, effective with the 2015-16 NBA season.
As part of the collective bargaining negotiations in 2011, the NBA and the Players Association agreed to a process for determining how HGH blood testing would be implemented in the NBA. With that process now completed, beginning with the start of 2015 NBA training camps, all NBA players will be subject to three random, unannounced HGH tests annually (two in-season, one off-season), and players will also be subject to reasonable cause testing for HGH.
If a player tests positive for HGH, he will be suspended 20 games for his first violation and 45 games for his second violation, and he will be dismissed and disqualified from the NBA for his third violation.
13 Aug 2015 15:43:46
@Phillyrich
I think most people understand at the very minimum why a team would tank, the current system incentivizes it for bad teams. If things aren't going well during the season and you figure out that there's no way to be competitive, I don't fault a team for tanking.
The problem I have with the 76ers is that's their strategy before preseason every year! Everyone knows that they intentionally did not put together a roster this summer to compete, same as last year. They traded away the reigning rookie of the year in his 2nd season. The only knock on MCW was he can't shoot. Everyone knows that's the one skill that can be easily taught to a young player (look at Blake Griffin). I would have a lot more respect for your team if they started game 1 each year with the intent to win as many games as possible instead of the other way around.
13 Aug 2015 16:29:51
The Sixers do not have a losing culture. Brown is very, very good about that.
But you're right about losing the young players. That's why I thought the Sixers would add a vet PG and keep Thompson.
13 Aug 2015 17:40:02
Im not knocking Coach Brown. I have no doubt that he tries to win every game he coaches. But the losing culture comes from the management. We already know that the best case for Philly this year is that they're bad enough to land the #1 pick next summer. The players know that's what management is hoping for. That's why it's a losing culture, not because of Coach Brown.
13 Aug 2015 18:13:20
L O L @Phillyrich thinking Philly's historical losing stretch is similar to the Spurs. Philly won't be good for 20 years. No one in hell wants to go there, and college prospects are so undeveloped coming out after one year now they won't make an impact straight out.
13 Aug 2015 19:28:24
Look, the first year Hinkie tore this thing down. Nobody believes that a roster of Thad Young, Evan Turner, Spenser Hawes, no picks, no cap space, and Doug Collins was a winning formula. Holliday was their only player.
The second year everyone knew he was not going to shoot for playoffs. They had that pick traded and it was lottery protected. I don't really agree with the MCW trade but I understand that he took a shot at a high pick for him. On the plus side, Noel took off offensively when MCW got traded.
However, this year he should have gone more aggressively toward a build up. He got a C, he has a PF, he got a young SG (whether you like him or not), he has young SF in Grant and Covington. He had some bench in Wroten, Thompson (just traded), Simms, plus a couple guys that started last year. All he needed to be a competitive team was a PG. That's it. Then use your picks next year.
He didn't do that. And I agree that's bothersome.
13 Aug 2015 19:47:59
@cwj:
LOL yourself. You can't read.
I'm extremely clear in that the Spurs did not have to go through an extended tear down. They were a consistent winner before tanking for that one season. The Sixers were not and had to go through a complete tear down. The Sixers had no cap space, no draft picks and no talent. That wasn't true of the Spurs.
14 Aug 2015 19:14:12
Phillyrich, jvugy and all sixers fans. just relax with the analogies at this point. You are setting yourselves up for disappointment otherwise. To say Noel took off once MCW was traded. he boosted his ppg like 2 or 3. seeing as MCW leaving left a void of about 15+ points, it really isn't a dramatic increase.
The sixers have Noel, very good defensive potential, however, at his current size, he is not able to guard centers effectively. Additionally, he has zero offensive game.
Okafor is a rookie with very little defensive game, great back to basket offensively, but again, paired with Noel, it doesn't seem like a good match. Neither can shoot from over 10 feet away, leading to a crowded paint.
Embiid, sorry, I think he is done.
Guards. yeah, the sixers like staukakus or however you spell it, but at this point, he isn't a top 20 sg, and I don't see any reason to believe he will be in the next year or two. Perhaps he can become decent and serviceable, but who knows.
The system in theory could work, but Heinkie is just failing at it. He refuses to pick up key free agents. Not studs, but leaders, people that make a team, people that guide winners. It is consistently, we draft, we trade, if you do well, we will sell you for future picks.
The spurs model worked great. The thunder worked great. However, they were CONSTANTLY looking to better themselves, the sixers have gone now 3 years publicly stating "we are tanking" meaning no one wants to play for them. Not now, and not ever. Not until Heinke and the management team are out. Because it is THEY that make the basketball decisions and it is THEY that have created the losing environment.
The team Heinke is far more analogous to, unfortunately, is the clippers. Donald Sterling lost for 20 years, but figured out how to make lots of money doing it. Sorry. Its true