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24 Sep 2015 02:39:53
pho-lal-philly

Phoenix receives Julius Randle and Nick Young

Philly receives Eric Bledsoe

Lakers receive Markieff and their 2016 1st back from Philly

The Suns free up room at shooting guard and are set up for the future with a core of Booker, Randle and Knight. Philly receives a high quality point guard who is under contract for 4 more years and the Lakers get a PF in Morris who may come with an attitude but there is no denying that he has skill. And proven player like Morris could help attract some free agents

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24 Sep 2015 03:03:33
Philly says no. And Suns fans don't want young

24 Sep 2015 03:41:02
Suns are taking a risk in this trade by trading a good pg in Bledsoe and a headache PF for basically a rookie and a sixth man when healthy. Then the signing of chandler would put make sense because if the Suns would want to focus on the future wouldn't they want to have Len te that time instead of an ageing veteran

24 Sep 2015 04:53:31
Suns get worked. Philly gets too much, and as a Laker fan, I'd rather keep Randle than take on a trouble maker like Morris. He's a nice player, but not good enough to deal with his off court issues as attitude. Randle has more potential in my opinion.

Cut Lakers out.

PHO: Landry, Wroten, Holmes, & LAL '16 pick

PHI: Bledsoe & Morris

24 Sep 2015 06:02:36
Move Morris? You bet. Bledsoe isn't being moved. So, if PHX does intend to move Kieff (and that incredibly is in doubt), he'll be the only one to get traded. maybe a pick to go along to sweeten a deal.

24 Sep 2015 08:54:24
As a phx fan, I say no. Randle doesn't fit the system and Bledsoe is our best player. As far as swaggy p is concerned, he can stay as far away as possible

24 Sep 2015 09:05:28
For the Lakers, I actually think this is not a bad deal. To me, Young for Markieff is a wash. Is Randle worth more than the 2016 pick (top 3 protected for two years, then unprotected)? I would say no. Randle was drafted 7th, he has had a major injury, and at the earliest the pick could be conveyed, Randle will be at least two years closer to a larger free agent contract.

For the Suns, I don't know. Eric Bledsoe at $13.5 mil is no bargain, so Randle, Young and $5 mil cap space seems like a fair offer. However, I don't think that's the direction the Suns want to go.

For PHI, that's a lot to give up. Is Bledsoe at $13.5 mil worth giving up all your cap space? Maybe. Would I add that pretty Laker pick? No, I think I'd only pay a lesser first. If Bledsoe was cheaper, I might raise that offer

24 Sep 2015 13:42:20
Just from the Lakers perspective, I can see the exchange of Morris for Randle. Who gets the better end of that? Hard to tell. But there's an honest discussion to be had on that. Plus, Morris is slightly bigger and probably has a more diverse game plus he signed that deal which now seems extremely team friendly given his performance.

But then the Lakers get their own 1st back for Swaggy P. There's no discussion to have there. That's receiving WAY too much for Nick Young.

Conclusion: Lakers get too much in this deal.

The exchange from the Sixers of the pick for Bledsoe might be fair value. However, given the Sixers timeline, by the time they're thinking to be fighting for the top, Bledsoe will be too old. They'd prefer to draft that player so that all the young players peak at the same age. Personally, I wouldn't be offended with Bledsoe because I'm tired of waiting and he'd make them a real team, real quick.

24 Sep 2015 13:47:31
Not a chance from philly. Bredsoe by no means a bad player but come on. The Sixers entire rebuild is around those picks. They wouldn't give that up unless la goes on an incredible tear and is a top twenty pick this year.

24 Sep 2015 14:48:09
Philly Randle is worth more than Morris alone. Read the shrink comment. Your undervaluing Randle or overvaluing the headache in Morris

24 Sep 2015 17:06:39
Lakers should hope that Randle becomes a 15 and 6 with a very favorable contract and a diverse game. That's what Morris is now.

Shrink is matching this up backwards.

24 Sep 2015 20:16:59
Thanks King. I will say though that there is no right or wrong here - we are all just projecting the future production of these players, and fair minded people can easily disagree. I can tell you why I have my own personal valuation.

First, let me say that like PhillyRich, I am not as high on Randle as many people are. I tend to think the media in big markets like NYK and LAL exaggerate, positive or negative, on their stories to try to get attention. Laker fans have had little to be excited about last year, so writing glowing stories about Randle's impending stardom is good for the news, and good for Laker ticket sales. In the cold light of day though, he was a project player who was drafted 7th, and on top of that didn't make good, and had a major injury. I still think he has positive value, especially with a tiny rookie scale contract and the slim chance of stardom, but I think Russell is far far more valuable.

As for Markieff, if he was just a 15-6, borderline starter on an $8 mil deal, I'd say he has positive value too. Unfortunately, Markieff brings too much baggage. He has the slim chance of going to jail, but he is certainly a public relations hit for any team that acquires him. worse, Markieff has shown that he doesn't deal with his frustrations internally with his team, and will run to the media. He has also shown he puts himself far above the needs of the team - that's not the type of employee people want in a situation that involves so much teamwork for success. I believe the Suns need to move him before the season starts to avoid angering their fans, and with no one lining up for a guy with these personal problems, they'll need to add incentive to dump him.

24 Sep 2015 21:47:11
From the sixers point of view. say the lakers end up with around the 10th pick this year. What are the odds that a player with bledsoe's production wouldn't go 10. After the first few picks, it really is a pretty big crap shoot. Additionally, you need something to attract other players. Anything. Is he the ideal fit, maybe maybe not. But he's a start. And getting a young pg, locked up for 5 years at a VERY reasonable salary given the upcoming cap boosts. it really would be a solid move. 13 mil for a solid starting pg is going to sound better and better in the next couple years.

Morris does NOT have negative value. He won't be going to jail, there is zero chance on that. He demanded a trade(as have many in the past) and until his brother was traded after they both agreed to take less money to stay together. he was considered a solid teammate. he's young, productive, and would start for many teams in the league. He isn't this major PR nightmare. No clue how anyone can claim he is. Listen, PR nightmares are what Adrian Peterson and Ray Rice went through. If he can get on the court, and be locked up for 5 years at under 10 mill a year, that's a great contract.

I don't believe the lakers would trade Randle, but to say it's an unfair trade off isn't accurate.

Ultimately, if you look at this trade with no emotions, both the sixers and the lakers end up good. The team that gets the short end is the Suns. Give up their starting, young, PF and PG and they get a project in Randle who's ceiling is relatively close to what Morris is churning out currently and Young, who is worthless. I don't believe any team involved would do it, but the Lakers and Sixers would absolutely have to think long and hard

25 Sep 2015 01:59:23
I agree with Shrink. We can disagree without being disagreeable. I happen to like Randle. He's a tough dude.

And Morris does bring some baggage. But he actually might be a victim here. Personally, I think Phoenix did the twins wrong since they appeared to negotiate a discounted deal to stay together then got separated.

Bledoe's a good player. Ironically if the Sixers trade the Lakers pick for him, it would complete the circle since they got the Lakers pick from Phoenix as part of the MCW deal. Essentially this Sixers would have completed a deal of MCW for Bledsoe- which would be a steal.





 

 

 
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