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18 Jan 2017 18:41:28
Knicks Trade Deadline Fire Sale

I am a Knicks fan but it's time to blow it up and get what you can for the veterans while they still have a little value.


Trade #1

Celtics get Carmelo Anthony

Knicks get Jae Crowder, Amir Johnson, Terry Rozier, and the Celtics 2017 1st Round Draft Pick


Trade #2

Kings get Derrick Rose and Lance Thomas

Knicks get Kousta Koufos, Willy Cauley-Stein, and Ben McLemore


Trade #3

Timberwolves get Joakim Noah, Sasha Vujacic, Marshall Plumlee, and two future 2nd Round Draft Picks

Knicks get Ricky Rubio


Roster

Starting Lineup

PG Rubio
SG McLemore
SF Crowder
PF Porzingis
C O'Quinn

Bench

PG Jennings
SG Holiday
PG/ SG Rozier
SF/ PF Kuzminskas
PF/ C Johnson
C Cauley-Stein
C Hernangomez
C Koufos
SG/ PG Baker
PF N'Dour

18 Jan 2017 18:53:34
The celtics #1 pick this year is a swap with the nets, so i don't think celtics are going to give a top 3 pick up on this trade.

18 Jan 2017 18:59:59
I absolutely agree it's past time the Knicks blew it up. however your value is way too high on everyone of these deals.

I'm not going to bash melo anymore as I've already discussed why I think he's overrated before.

But rose I haven't yet so I'll go there. First. expiring contract and unrestricted free agent who wants max money. Doesn't care about basketball except it makes him money. He's even missed a game recently because of" family issues". The guy doesn't love the game. I'm not sure if the injury history or what but this guy seems like a problem.

As for Noah. sorry you guys are completely stuck. Age caught up to him quickly. Too bad it was after the Knicks gave him a contract. The wolves may do the deal if you take peks contract back. Maybe that will entice them enough to take Noah on. Not sure they'll include Rubio to just "help you out. "

18 Jan 2017 19:15:23
Unless Phil Jackson mentions the name Porzingis in the first 10 seconds, Ainge hangs up. Not interested in Anthony.

18 Jan 2017 18:36:44
Kings/ Wizards

Porter and Mahinmi for Gay and Affalo

Kings get a new 3 to build with

Wizards get two proven players and can forget about the Mahinmi contract

18 Jan 2017 21:31:53
Zero chance Wizards give up Porter for that. Dude has been playing really well this year.

18 Jan 2017 15:09:40
Minnesota-Sacramento

Minnesota gets Darren Collison, Anthony Tolliver, Malachi Richardson, and a future 1st round pick

Sacramento gets Ricky Rubio, Shabazz Muhammad, and a future 2nd round pick.

18 Jan 2017 12:47:36
Sacramento-Minnesota

Sacramento get Ricky Rubio

Minnesota get Anthony Tolliver, Ben McLemore, and right to swap 2018 2nd round pick between POR and SAC

18 Jan 2017 12:57:20
Wolves will get more than this for Rubio.

18 Jan 2017 10:25:14
Indy-NY-Sac-Phoe

Indy: D Cousins

NY: M turner+ M ellis+ T Chandler

Sac: C Anthony+ B Knight+ 1rnd pick Indy 17 and 19

Phoe:R Gay+ O'Quin


Indy: receive a star

NY: can rebuilt around M turner and Porzingis. they can draft a PG in this years draft.

sac:Well it's the Kings. But they receive a great SF and a still young talented PG and two draft picks

Phoe: They get a descent center and capspace

18 Jan 2017 12:37:21
I'd love Cousins on Indy but not sure they have the assets to entice Kings especially since Turner plays at a position they are crowded at (although I guess he could play pf) . Knicks are getting way too much for Melo who I don't think would want to go to the Kings and I don't think Kings would want him at that price. Phx part isn't bad but I don't think Suns should be clearing salary just to clear salary since they aren't likely to draw any major FA anytime soon. I think they'd be better off dealing Knight and Chandler for young guys or draft picks and not worry about cap space (bad teams shouldn't) .

18 Jan 2017 12:59:19
Melo doesn't waive his no-trade clause to go to the Kings, and definitely not if Cousins is gone.

18 Jan 2017 13:04:22
Anthony has no trade value -- old, ridiculous contract with a 15 percent trade kicker, ball-hog volume shooter who makes a team worse. Plus, he likes the bright lights in New York. Knicks are stuck with him.

18 Jan 2017 18:05:28
Suns say NOT

17 Jan 2017 20:29:32
Chi-mia-okc-sac

Chicago gets: kanter, Dragic, gay, mcroberts

Miami gets: rondo, koufos, mirotic, morrow

OKC gets: Butler, Lopez, Lawson, McLemore

Sacramento gets: payne, singler, D. Williams, Ellington

Throw some picks in for Miami

17 Jan 2017 23:28:10
IDK who the hell OKC give to get Butler and Lopez. lol

18 Jan 2017 00:54:32
lol kanter and maybe one or two scrubs. Absolutely amazing.

17 Jan 2017 03:21:02
Kings get Derrick Rose

OKC gets Rudy Gay and a second round pick (NY)

NY gets Cameron Payne, Kyle Singler and Dakari Johnson

17 Jan 2017 12:06:35
Low risk move for the Kings, I could understand it for the Knicks although I don't think they need to give up a 2nd and for Thunder I think they probably should be giving up a little more but I think them getting Gay is overdue.

16 Jan 2017 20:08:09
Miami Heat 2017-18

Trade Dragic to the Kings for Rudy Gay and Skal Labissiere

Draft: Malik Monk

Cut Chris Bosh

Free Agency
- Derrick Rose 4yr/ Max
- Amir Johnson 1yr/ 8m

PG - Rose/ T. Johnson/ J. Richardson
SG - Waiters/ Malik Monk/ Ellington
SF - Rudy Gay/ J. Winslow/ J. Johnson
PF - McRoberts/ Reed/ Labissiere
C - Whiteside/ A. Johnson

16 Jan 2017 21:04:10
No way should Rose ever get the max, especially for 4 years

17 Jan 2017 00:27:51
Why would you want to give rose a 4 year max? Insanity, 1 maybe 1+1 team, but 4 years at the max? Are you a secret heat hater?

17 Jan 2017 02:58:44
The trade is good, but why in god's green earth would you want to sign Rose to a four year max deal?

16 Jan 2017 19:15:10
Kings - Jrue Holiday

Pelicans - Rudy Gay

Pelicans new lineup

PG - Evans
SG - Heild
SF - Gay
PF - Davis
C - Monteunas/ Jones

16 Jan 2017 20:39:44
It's about right. Both are free agents though. That could be a trade of a rental for a rental player.

16 Jan 2017 17:46:16
Clippers-Knicks-Kings

Clippers get Carmelo

Knicks get Rudy Gay, Jamal Crawford, Kosta Koufos, Darren Collison, Paul Pierce

Kings get Derrick Rose, Wesley Johnson, 1st rounder from Knicks, Clippers 2018 2nd

16 Jan 2017 18:26:32
i like it

16 Jan 2017 19:32:57
I like Melo to the Knicks but if Knicks deal Melo I think they wouldn't want a bunch of veterans but young guys or draft picks to begin to build around porzingis. Certainly don't see Knicks trading their pick

16 Jan 2017 21:06:52
This would most likely keep them in contention in the East this year though. let's them get rid of Melo and Rose's contract and gives them the following lineup:
Collison/ Jennings/ baker
Lee/ Crawford/ holiday
Gay/ thomas
Porzingas/ hernangomez/ kuzminkas
Noah/ Koufos/ o'quinn

Clippers:
CP/ Felton
Redick/ Rivers
Melo/ Mbah a moute
Blake/ Bass/ B. Johnson
DJ/ Speights/ Stone

Kings:
Rose/ Lawson
Afflalo/ Mclemore/ Temple
Barnes/ Johnson/ Casspi
Tolliver/ Labissire
Cousins/ WCS

Kings would probably play small in the 2nd unit with Lawson, Temple, Johnson, Casspi, and WCS

15 Jan 2017 01:13:56
Bulls trade heat

Bulls get whiteside

Heat gets Lopez, portis, bulls 1rst round pick 2017 and kings top 10 protected pick

Bulls starting

MCW, rondo, grant, canaan
Wade, valentine, m McDermott
Butler, mcdermout, zipster
Gibson, mirotic, zipser
Whiteside, felicio

Have rondo play with the shooters
Bulls defense should be better with scoring downlow

15 Jan 2017 15:20:12
Whiteside would definitely improve the Bulls team and I think that is solid value for the Heat with two firsts, a solid prospect in Portis and a starting caliber center in Lopez but I don't think Bulls are good enough to justify this type of move.

Even with Whiteside I don't see them getting out of the east and not a lock to even make the conference finals. They are giving up an awful lot of their future, still don't have much at point guard slot and Wade isn't getting any younger.

16 Jan 2017 00:30:04
Bulls need shooting and Whiteside is the star of the Heat he's untouchable

14 Jan 2017 23:26:08
Clippers - Kings

Austin Rivers and Luc Mbah A Moute for Rudy Gay

15 Jan 2017 02:08:09
Glenn Rivers won't trade his own son, and the Kings are not that stupid. They can get a better offer for Rudy Gay.

14 Jan 2017 21:21:32
Kings Get: Rose, Ndour, Plumlee

Knicks Get: Koufos, Collison and McLemore

14 Jan 2017 11:48:35
Philly-LA-Orlando

Orando: Okafor+Clarckson
trade: 1rnd pick LA 19+ vucevic

LA: Vucevic+ 1rnd pick LA 17 and 19+ 1rnd pick Philly 17+ 1rnd pick Sac 19
trade: Ingram+ russell+ Clarckson

Philly: Ingram+ Russell
Trade: Okafor+ 1rnd pick philly+ 1rnd pick LA 17+ 1rnd pick Sac 19

Philly
C:Embiid/ Noel
PF:Saric/ Ilyasova
SF:Simmons/ covington
SG:Ingram/ Henderson
PG:Russell/ Bayless

14 Jan 2017 12:53:58
Still can't envision Lakers being interested in that. They aren't a franchise interested in rebuilding which they have already done successfully and have the pieces that should bring them back to contention in a few years. I don't see them delaying it especially when the value in the return is banking on Kings and Lakers still being bad in two years. Draft picks are always risky so I don't see them giving up Russell who has played very well and flashed all-star potential and Ingram who hasn't been all too good but has improved lately for two picks when I doubt they'd get anyone better with the risk of them being a lot worse.

14 Jan 2017 13:06:06
It's more difficult with the new agreement to sign good free agents.

They can trade Russell, because they can draft: Ball, Smith, Fox or Fulzz.

A bigger issue is Ingram, he doesn't get much playing time, but he has the potential to become the new KD. So trading him is the real risk. But LA could draft J Jackson

so they trade Russell and Ingram for Fulzz and Jackson, they can draft a talent with their own pick next year and they will have two lottery picks in 2019.
I would take that risk if i where the Lakers

14 Jan 2017 13:52:49
phikly gives up a lot in that deal. Not sure they will be willing to turn all those assets into Ingram who hasn't Been that effective so far and Russell who takes a lot of shots and needs the ball in his hands. Ben Simmons is suppose to be the primary ball handler of offense.

Lakers would not do this deal even though it's an amazing return. It be like starting over from scratch.

14 Jan 2017 14:15:16
I think the Lakers feel like they have the young assets they want in Ingram, Russell and Randle. I don't see them wanting to turn two of them into more picks. Seems like putting themselvess back another one to two years for no reason.

14 Jan 2017 17:46:32
Lakers say no. And Gasupo, Ingram does get playing time, he's averaging 27 minutes per game leading all rookies it's just he hasn't gotten his shots to fall.

15 Jan 2017 05:24:27
Lakers say no, most teams have caught on that these bigs that can't play defense Vuc, Okafor, Kanter, Monroe, etc can't start. Besides LA spent 60 mil on on Mozgov, why trade for a center who may not be that much of an upgrade, as they have plenty of scoring (young, williams) and really need competent defenders, which Vuc clearly is not.

13 Jan 2017 18:07:03
Sixers moves before deadline.

FIRST. okafor, '17 sixers 1st (swap rights with kings), and EITHER another back up player of their choosing OR take back a salary dump to the Celtics for the '17 Brooklyn pick.

NEXT. Noel, give back the '17 Lakers 1st, and take timofey mozgov (salary dump) to the Lakers for D'Angelo Russel.

THEN. Draft Fultz with the Nets pick

Starters. Russel, Fultz, Simmons,

13 Jan 2017 18:57:49
Okafor and our ping pong balls for the celtics ping pong balls. I'd rather know what I'm getting in return if I'm trading a 21 year old big guy who was taken 3rd overall.

Donot see the Lakers trading D'Angelo for Noel and ping pong balls either.

14 Jan 2017 04:18:29
Who cares about his age and draft position. Kid plays zero defense and doesn't play for the sixers. Stop acting like he has lots of value. He doesn't.

13 Jan 2017 17:33:54
Sac: Hayward+ Dragic+Turner

Utah: McCollum+ Plumlee

Miami: R Gay+Collison+Labisierre 1rnd pick Sac+ 1rnd pick Utah

Portland: WC Stein+ Winslow+afflalo

Sacramento receive two players that should bring Sacramento and Cousins into the playoffs

Utah receive an All star level replacement for Hayward, that's locked in for 5years.

Miami receive capspace a young talent and two draft picks so they can rebuilt

Portland get younger and receive more capspace so they can built a team arround Lillard

13 Jan 2017 18:59:45
Portland laughs at this. not reading the rest

13 Jan 2017 19:55:06
Maybe replace stein with Whiteside and Portland considers it. As it sits, plumlee>>stein, turner>afflalo, McCollum >>>>>>>>>>>>Winslow

14 Jan 2017 04:58:08
Seeing as Portland was the last one. You literally read everything. Great comment Simmons.

12 Jan 2017 16:20:17
Clippers get Enes Kanter, Victor Oladipo, and 2017 okc 1st

Kings get Cameron Payne, Alex Abrines, Jeremi Grant, and Kyle Singler

Thunder get Blake Griffin, Rudy Gay, and Ben McLemore




Call up Dakari Johnson, Josh Huestis, Xavier Henry, and Jannero Pargo

Pf. B. Griffin/ J. Leveargne / N. Collison
Sf. R. Gay/ A. Roberson/ J. Huestis
C. S. Adams/ D. Sabonis/ D. Johnson
Sg. B. Mclemore/ A. Morrow/ X. Henry
Pg. R. Westbrook/ S. Christon/ J. Pargo

12 Jan 2017 18:19:00
Not enough. For griffin

12 Jan 2017 20:21:24
Griffin could walk

12 Jan 2017 05:00:54
Kings going to extend DMC. Here is my plan to build around him.


DEAL 1
Kings get Paul Millsap

Hawks get Willie Cauley Stein and Aaron Afflalo


DEAL 2
Kings get Cameron Payne, Kyle Singler, and 2017 OKC pick

Thunder get Rudy Gay


DEAL 3
Kings get Jaylen Brown

Celtics get 2017 Kings 1st rd pick and Kosta Koufas

SIGN Gordon Hayward Max (long shot)

DRAFT
J. Evans PG 1st round
M. Kingsley C. 2nd rd



Pf. P. Millsap/ S. Labisierri/ A. Tolliver
Sf. J. Brown/ M. Barnes/ K. Singler
C. D. Cousins/ G. Papagiannis/ M. Kingsley
Sg. G. Hayward/ B. Mclemore/ G. Temple
Pg. C. Payne/ J. Evans/ M. Richardson

12 Jan 2017 10:33:23
Haha.

1. Kings never get Jaylen Brown for this.

2. Hawks not trading Millsap. Yet. but if thry trade him, they won't much more.

3. Hayward will sign with the Celtics this Summer. that's not a big secret. He wants back to Brad Stevens.

12 Jan 2017 13:29:20
Only the Kings deal may happen.

12 Jan 2017 13:49:53
Not sure what the Celtics would want with another draft pick, unless it's to flip it in another trade. But . . . I would deal Brown somewhere if the Celtics knew that Hayward was definitely coming on board.

12 Jan 2017 14:25:32
Didn't you trade your 2017 1st to the celtics in deal 3? How are you drafting a PG with it?

12 Jan 2017 15:37:03
Because they got the Thunder 1st rd pick in the Rudy Gay trade

12 Jan 2017 20:38:44
Hawks say no. They can get more for trading him to the raptors, or by holding onto him than this.

12 Jan 2017 01:26:34
Celtics go for broke. I think they have best starting 5 in the league. With all faith in the coach to get them to play together.

Celtics get Melo Cousins Ndour Vujacic Plumlee
Kings get Thomas Crowder Jerebko Nets 17 and 18 1st
Knicks get Gay Johnson Howard
Hawks get Noah J. Brown


Smart/ Rozier/ Jackson
Bradley/ Young/ Vujacic
Melo/ Green/ Ndour
Harford/ Olynyk/ Martin
Cousins/ Zeller/ Plumlee

Kings make out like bandits

Thomas/ Collison/ Lawson
Afflalo/ Temple/ Richardson
Crowder/ Barnes/ Casspi
Toliver/ Jerebko/ Labissiere
Koufos/ Stein/ Papagianis

Hawks add future and leadership
Schroder/ Mo-Will/ Delaney
Hardaway/ Brown/
Bazemore/ Prince/ Bembry
Milsap/ Scott/ Muscala
Noah/ Humphries/ Splitter



Rose/ Jennings/ Randle
Lee/ Sefolosha/ Baker
Gay/ Kuzminskas/ Thomas
Porzingis/ O'Quinn/
Howard/ Johnson/ Hernangomez

12 Jan 2017 13:58:04
If there is a god in heaven, will you please stop people from proposing trades that bring Anthony to the Celtics? Anthony makes teams worse, not better. He's poison.

12 Jan 2017 18:38:03
This to me is a realistic price for cousins if is for sure going to resign with Boston. If not then the return is crazy.

12 Jan 2017 20:42:48
Boston is tied to their coach who would prefer to coach less annoying personalities, so if they move all these pieces for an enigmatic superstar, count on it being 1 not 2 of them. Stevens would lose his rubbish if you destroyed his entire locker room for 2 players.

11 Jan 2017 18:15:28
Pelicans - Bulls

Omer Asik + 2 future 2ndrounders
Rajon Rondo

Kings - Suns

Rudy Gay + 2ndrounder
Brandon Knight

Bucks - Celtics

Greg Monroe
Amir Johnson

Dallas - Sixers

Devin Harris
Nerlens Noel + 2ndrounder

Cavs sign Mario Chalmers
Pelicans sign Lance Stephenson
Hornets sign Jarrett Jack

Orlando + Denver + Bulls

Danilo Gallanari + Cristiano Felecio + Jamal Murray
Jimmy Butler + Mario Hezonjia
Kenneth Faried + Jusurf Nurfkic + Aaron Gordon + 2018 1stround pick from denver

Daĺlas - Blazers

Mason Plumlee + 2ndrounder
Andrew Bogut

Bulls + Heat

Goran Dragic
Taj Gibson + future firstrounder protected

11 Jan 2017 18:59:28
if Portland traded for bogut, it would be to backup plumlee.

11 Jan 2017 19:42:32
Does Devin harris have value? I feel like dallas would have to give a pick up for someone to take him.

11 Jan 2017 22:08:16
The Pelicans do not need a PG

11 Jan 2017 22:16:28
Bucks pass

11 Jan 2017 22:16:41
Would need a first round pick

 
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