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06 Dec 2016 20:50:42
Kings - Bender, Bledsoe, Warren, Chandler, Suns 2018 and 20 1st.
Wizards - Chriss, Sun 2017 1st (assuming top 5), Knight, Len
Suns - Wall, Cousins.
Bledsoe/ Afflalo/ Temple/ Bender/ WCS
Pick/ Beal/ Porter/ Chriss/ Len
Wall/ Booker/ FA/ Dudley/ Cousins
Kings get a ton of assests and future unprotected 1st.
Wizards get a top 5 pick Chriss and Knight an cut ties Wall who isn't taking them anywhere. The suns pick and their own allow for a promising haul in a great draft.
Suns give both young cornerstones a fresh start while retaining Booker, this is automatically a 50 win team and they have cap space for free agents.
I know people will say Boston could do better bit those Nets picks are worth less then over the summer and Ainge is super cheap.
06 Dec 2016 21:18:32
thats a pretty wild trade, has something like that ever happened in the nba?
06 Dec 2016 21:30:17
It's a pretty crazy trade but if the Suns had that team I don't think that they would finish in the bottom 5.
06 Dec 2016 21:50:48
That would be this years suns team which is already on pace to finish bottom 5.
06 Dec 2016 21:57:49
There is no way in a million years this would ever happen. Although I'll say the assets are actually pretty even, but it doesn't really make each team better. The Suns would have no assets and Cousins could just leave after next season, the 2018 would have to be a swap. Honestly I don't think any team would want this.
07 Dec 2016 14:09:00
Sooo. PHX gets 2 guys. who both don't want to be with the Suns. and PHX gives up 7 guys and 2 picks? Seriously? One year into their own "youth movement". and they break that up to put 2 All-Stars and a new group together to finish what .7th.8th in the West for 1 year until those guys leave? How many times has Boogie led the Kings to anything. other than getting coaches fired? So. Suns would walk away from this one for certain.
06 Dec 2016 05:07:38
Best Demarcus trades.
I guess nobody sees him staying in Sacramento, and only a few teams have the assets to make a trade with the kings without totally stripping their team to nothing.
2017 first rounder (top 10 likely)
Future 1st round pick (either miamis or their own)
Bender and Chriss both play power forward, while I think they could make an interested front court, getting cousins makes this a great playoff team.
2017 Brooklyn (top 10)
2018 Brooklyn (top 10)
The celtics have so many options who they could trade. But this is way more favorable in my eyes then the suns trade with the two Brooklyn picks.
I don't think their are any other teams that can beat those offers, prove me wrong!
06 Dec 2016 11:03:46
I don't think Cousins has much value.
He's playing great, but he can't bring his team into the playoffs.
He's 26 years old and he's playing for a big contract. So he should go to a team that's in a win now modus and that doesn't need to strip their own team to get him. So their are many teams that can make an offer
Why should he go to Phoenix? To play with his friend Bledsoe? That team can make the playoffs, but they can't beat the Warriors, clippers, spurs or OKC. So they're playing for a second round exit.
So if i where the Suns, I would only offer the Miami picks and B Knight
Boston has the assets, but they still need another player if they want to beat Cleveland. So they should only offer one Nets pick.
2018 Nets pick+ Smart+ J Brown would be a great return for Sacramento.
Personally, i think Portland could get in the mix. They can offer McCollum. They like him, but they also have Crabbe, Aminu and Turner, so he's expendable. They're in a win now mode and they need do do something. The tandem Cousins-Lillard could be great.
Another team that's in a win now mode is Toronto. Not sure they have enough assets. They can't offer a star, but they have some draft picks.
They could make a trade around T Ross+ Poetl+ Powell+ 1rnd pick Clippers+ 1rnd pick Tor 17/ 19/ 21
Chicago would be a good destination for him. Not sure they have enough assets too, but they could return the sacramento pick. They need a third team that would take Mirotic and Portis.
Washington could offer Porter, Beal and a draft pick. I would like to see D Cousins and J Wall playing together.
Milwaukee has some good assets to.
Beasly+ Middleton+ 1rnd pick 17 and 19 would be a good offer fo sacramento
The Lakers could also do an offer. They should keep their young players and rebuilt. But they like stars. So they could make a deal involving Russell or Ingram.
Minny could make an offer. The tandem Cousins/ KAT would be unstopable.
Z Lavine+ Dunn+ Pekovic+ 2017 1rnd pick.
06 Dec 2016 14:07:51
I would do Ballhog's Kings-Celtics trade, but would ask that Casspi be included in the deal. Sacramento probably would agree to that, because he wants out anyway.
Three rotation players plus two high lottery picks for Boogie and Casspi seems fair.
06 Dec 2016 15:31:39
There has been a lot of debate over if Portland would trade McCollum for cousins among blazers fans Gusapo. I think the kings wouldn't be smart to consider that, McCollum could be a top 10 scorer if given the keys to a team. But I don't think I'd trade a 20 ppg scorer locked in for 5+ years for a guy who has a year left on his deal and could bolt, especially since it wouldn't just be those two straight up.
06 Dec 2016 16:21:04
The kings would be smart*.
06 Dec 2016 17:27:42
good point, but the duo Lillard/ McCollum can't beat S Curry/ K Thompson
I like the Combo Cousins/ Lillard. They can become the next S Kemp/ G Payton or K Malone/ J Stocton
I believe Cousins would stay in Portland
there 're only a few good big men available the next two years and D Cousins is en upgrade over McCollum, who's also 25 years. so i would take that gamble.
06 Dec 2016 19:22:31
Honestly, I just don't like cousins. He's too much like someone else Portland had: Rasheed Wallace. Neither are winners, neither are leaders. I don't love the 50/ 50 gamble of either:
1. Lillard and cousins are a great duo. They lead Portland to a conference finals
2. Cousins proves he's a cancer. He gets stotts fired (who I'm a huge fan of) . He guts the team (as it takes McCollum and harkless and plumlee to get him probably) . Then he bolts. Portland instantly becomes a bottom 5 team.
Maybe it's the fear I have from the jailblazers era, but guys like cousins scare me more than inferior players.
06 Dec 2016 19:55:29
Whoever wants to be golden state, needs a player like cousins.
06 Dec 2016 01:30:47
Suns get Demarcus Cousins and Cameron Payne
Kings get TJ Warren, Dragan Bender, Brandon Knight, Kyle Singler, and 2017 okc 1st
Thunder get Rudy Gay.
06 Dec 2016 05:40:47
The suns already have a backup guard in Ulis, they don't need Payne. They would probably not trade Warren because he's the only SF on the team.
06 Dec 2016 05:52:23
PJ Tucker will be back, and the better difference between Cousins and Chandler means they can afford to start Dudley for a lil bit.
05 dec 2016 15:16:47
05 Dec 2016 21:47:29
I think if OKC wants McLemore too they will have to add their 2017 1st.
04 Dec 2016 20:08:22
Gay, Koufos, Mirotic, MCW
Singler, McLemore, Papagiannis, okc 1st
Kanter, Abrines, Payne
Thunder get wings, shooting, expiring money for Blake if he opts out, and a replacement backup 5.
Bulls get McLemore who could be a great fit off the bench to spell Wade, plus get a first round pick.
Kings get Payne who they were interested in before he got hurt, a big to put next to Cousins or replace him should he (finally) get moved, and a shooter at a reasonable price.
05 Dec 2016 02:31:02
I don't like the deal for the Kings. Koufos is a solid backup big, and I think Gay alone could get you Payne and Abrines minimally. McLemore and Papagiannis are still young guys they paid too high of a price for to just simply give away. I don't like the Kings getting Kanter as their best asset since he plays their deepest position and they have so many glaring holes elsewhere.
05 Dec 2016 02:59:17
Yeah add more bigs and non shooters, just what we need.
04 Dec 2016 19:16:01
Trade: Minnesota Timberwolves - Los Angeles Lakers - Sacramento Kings
MIN get Luol Deng
LAL get Rudy Gay (exp / opts out)
SAC get Ricky Rubio
The above would be the outline in which Thibs gets his former Chicago and defensive protégé Luol Deng, who could play aside Towns as a PF or, if Dieng continues to start with Towns, share the wing with Wiggins, while LaVine, Dunn or Jones play Point. Sacramento on the other hand get the player they wanted for a long time now and Gay could be something like a placeholder for the Lakers starting spot at Small Forward, which Ingram fully should take next season as Gay likely opts out in some months anyways. And they also get rid off Dengs big contract, too.
I think some additonal players would have to be involved to make this savory for Minnesota and Sacramento, say: MIN get Deng, McLemore, Casspi - SAC get Rubio, Muhammad - LAL get Gay. Maybe Collison or Lawson will have to be added for the Timberwolves too, as Dunn just seems not to be ready for the starting PG spot and I'm not sure if LaVine is capable for the playmaking either. Maybe Tyus Jones, but Tom Thibodeau still isn't playing him much.
05 Dec 2016 03:40:27
Only way I see Thibs justifying bringing back Deng and paying him 72M over next four years is if he had a time machine to either redo that contract or could bring back the younger Deng that played with Thibs. Twolves aren't doing anything this year so I see no reason to bring in an overpriced veteran on the wrong side of 30.
04 Dec 2016 14:23:44
Lakers/ Kings/ Celtics
Lakers trade: Julius Randle and Luol Deng
Lakers receive: Rudy Gay
PG: Russell/ Clarkson
SG: Young/ Williams
SF: Gay/ Ingram
PF: Nance/ Robinson
C: Mozgov/ Black
Kings trade: Demarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay
Kings receive: Randle, Deng, Smart, and '17 BKN pick
Celtics trade: Smart and '17 BKN pick
Celtics receive: Demarcus Cousins
04 Dec 2016 14:42:32
Love that trade for Boston, but doubt the Kings would do that. As the losses pile up and Cousins gets closer to free agency, it will be interesting to see if the Kings will make a move to reboot. From everything I read, it seems like ownership is chaotic and several minority owners have veto powers over trades.
04 Dec 2016 15:57:18
While we do get rid of Deng I'm not trading Randle for Rudy Gay.
04 Dec 2016 16:18:47
No way in heck Lakers move Randle to get Gay.
04 Dec 2016 16:27:24
that may be the most lobsided cousins trade yet on here. so the celtics give up a backup pg and a pick. and get a top 3 center entering his prime, on a great contract? Great. Sounds legit.
By the ways, those nets picks seemed a lot better when they were the worst team in the league. not while they are ranging from the worst to the 8th worst. no one is giving up cousins for smart and a potentially mid lottery pick. that's nonsense.
04 Dec 2016 17:57:41
Randle is playing too well for them to give him up for what amounts to dumping Dengs salary (Gay is upcoming FA and not fit for young LA team) . It'll take much more than that for Celtics to get Cousins (I think Jaylen Brown should be added) .
04 Dec 2016 05:08:42
Jahil oakafor robert covington for nikola mirotic and denzel valentin and jerian grant and sac 1st pic.
04 Dec 2016 05:22:34
Sixers pass we don't need mirotic at all and those other two are just okay at best. Sac pick is actually only coming if it outside the top ten so no value there either.
04 Dec 2016 17:38:24
Hamburger. as of this writing the Nets have the third-worst record in the league. They were in the 7/ 8 range earlier in the season because they won a few games in the first couple of weeks. You're now seeing a reversion to the mean, and Brooklyn will most likely be in the 1-2-3 range when they year ends -- perhaps No. 1 overall if they decide to bite the bullet and trade Lopez.
03 Dec 2016 07:00:14
Pacers all in approach
Pacers Sacramento Wizards 3 team
Pacers 2017 first round
Pacers 2017 second round
Pacers 2019 second round
Pacers 2019 first round.
03 Dec 2016 14:56:49
so essentially you go with quantity over quality? The kings get nothing exception and then 2 2nds and a 1st that won't be worth much.
Wizards is a tad better because at least they get turner, but still a terrible return for a top 5 pg.
03 Dec 2016 20:09:09
Cousins and Wall are better than anybody the Pacers have outside of George so if the Wizards or Kings dealt either its likely to rebuild. Unfortunately, outside of Turner the Pacers don't have any attractive rebuilding pieces. They may potentially be able to get either Cousins or Wall but I believe its highly improbable both.
02 Dec 2016 22:45:53
Wizards receive - G. Dragic, Skal Labissiere and a first rounder from the Kings
Kings receive - John Wall
Heat receive - D. Collison, R. Gay.
03 Dec 2016 01:09:22
Horrible for the Wizards.
03 Dec 2016 17:10:49
Not that horrible for Wizards. Kings need to give up a lil more tho. I'd add Willie Cauley Stein to the wizards.
02 Dec 2016 17:58:39
New York Knicks
Two trades to sort out the two areas that need sorting which are starting centre and bench scoring
Knicks recieve Nerlens Noel
Timberevolves recieve Joakim Noah and couple of 2nd round draft picks
76ers recieve Ricky Rubio
Knicks recieve Rudy Gay
Kings recieve Kyle O'Quinn and Lance Thomas
Release Sasha Vujacic
Sign Chasson Randle and Cleathony Early
Pg Rose/ Jennings/ Randle
Sg Lee/ Holiday/ Baker
Sf Anthony/ Gay/ Early
Pf Porzingis/ Kuzminskas/ Ndour
C Noel/ Hernangomez/ Plumlee.
02 Dec 2016 18:57:59
Why would Minnesota want Noah? They are already deep in the frontcourt, they don't need one who is overpaid and a shadow of himself.
02 Dec 2016 22:04:08
Two reasons Philly won't trade for a PG right now: 1) there are several good ones available in the 2017 draft, 2) they have said they are going to play Simmons at the point, full-time, when he comes back. He may or may not stay there, but they won't be trading for a PG in the near future.
30 Nov 2016 18:26:40
Wolves get Demarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay, and Ben Mclemore
Kings get Zack Lavine, Kris Dunn, Baz Mohamed, Gorgui Dieng, Nikola Pecovic, and 2017 1st.
30 Nov 2016 20:26:07
Thats a deal wolves go win now mode kings rebuild like it for both teams.
30 Nov 2016 21:26:03
Why would wolves trade for Cousins, they have KAT. Nonsense trade.
30 Nov 2016 22:36:40
Because Cousins is a top 10 player and Frontcourts wouldn't stop that.
01 Dec 2016 00:39:47
I don't know that I give up LaVine, Dunn and Dieng for Cousins. Take one of Dunn or LaVine out and add another 1st and I'm willing to listen to that.
01 Dec 2016 00:58:09
This guts Minnesota to much. They have bench issues as it is.
01 Dec 2016 02:01:01
KAT would play PF and they would DOMINATE. not to mention having Wiggins and Gay on the wing with Rubio distributing. This deal makes the Wolves an instant contender.
01 Dec 2016 02:07:11
Pf. K. Towns/ A. Payne
Sf. R. Gay/ N. Bjelica
C. D. Cousins/ J. Hill/ C. Aldrich
Sg. A. Wiggins/ B. Mclemore/ B. Rush
Pg. R. Rubio/ T. Jones/ J. Lucas
Then I'd consider signing Josh Smith as forward depth since he can play both spots.
30 Nov 2016 16:19:31
Brad Beal, Otto Porter, Marcin Gortat, Kelly Oubre, 2017 First, 2019 First
DeMarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay, Omri Casspi.
30 Nov 2016 11:56:09
Cousins wants out of SAC if he can
John Wall and Cousins saying they'd love to play together one day
The wizards have all their first round picks in the foreseeable future
What looks like a perfect opportunity to me
- Marcin Gortat
- Kelly Oubre
- Otto Porter
- Tomas Satoransky
- 2017 First Round Pick (unprotected)
- 2019 First Round Pick (Unprotected)
- 2017 Second Round Pick
- 2018 Second Round Pick
- DeMarcus Cousins
- Rudy Gay
- Matt Barnes
- George Papagiannis
PG: Darren Collison, Ty Lawson, Tomas Satoransky
SG: Arron Afflalo, Ben McLemore, Garrett Temple
SF: Otto Porter, Kelly Oubre, Omri Casspi, Malachi Richardson
PF: Willie Cauley-Stein, Skal Labissiere, Anthony Tolliver
C: Marcin Gortat, Kosta Koufos
PG: John Wall, Trey Burke
SG: Bradley Beal, Marcus Thornton, Sheldon McLellan
SF: Rudy Gay, Matt Barnes, Danuel House
PF: Markieff Morris, Andrew Nicholson, Jason Smith
C: DeMarcus Cousins, Ian Mahinmi, George Papagiannis.
30 Nov 2016 16:34:18
I wouldn't think that the Kings would trade Gay and Cousins together. For 1 the salaries won't match and I would think that a team like the Thunder could and probably would give up a 1st or something to get Gay.
30 Nov 2016 10:25:32
Indy: D Cousins
Phoe: M Turner+ R Gay
Sac: G Robinson+ M Ellis+ B Knight+ 1rnd pick Indy 17 and 19+ 1rnd pick Phoe 17+ 1rnd pick Miami 18.
30 Nov 2016 05:54:52
Another Cousins trade but this time to the Bulls.
Kings give: Cousins, Casspi, Barnes, Temple
Kings get: Valentine, Portis, McDermott, MCW/ Grant, Return of Kings 2017 pick (top-10 protected), Bulls 2017 pick, Bulls 2019 pick, Celtics 2018 pick
Bulls give: Valentine, Portis, Lopez, McDermott, MCW/ Grant Return Kings pick if falls out of top 10, Bulls 2017 1st, Bulls 2019 1st (top 5 protected)
Bulls get: Cousins, Zeller, Jerekbo, Barnes, Temple
Celtics give : Zeller, Jerekbo and Celtics 2018 1st (or a different future pick)
Celtics get: Lopez, Casspi
The return for Cousins isn't the greatest but I believe Chicago would be a perfect fit for him. Wade could put Cousins in his place, Cousins had success with Rondo last year and Cousins is young enough that if he and Butler get along they could help keep each other in Chicago and be the center of something great in Chitown for next few years.
A lineup of Rondo, Wade, Butler, Mirotic, Cousins isn't too shabby either.
30 Nov 2016 11:43:39
It would be more than a stretch to see the Celtics being part of a three-way deal in which Cousins is delivered to an Eastern Conference rival -- especially one in which they themselves don't get much better. I do like Casspi, though, and would offer one of Zeller, Olynyk and Zeller straight up for him. But Kings don't need bigs.
30 Nov 2016 13:26:31
***Zeller, Olynyk or Johnson.
30 Nov 2016 14:10:00
Kings should be getting little go less. four promising young players plus 3 1st rd picks! that's a lot.
29 Nov 2016 20:39:05
Kings get John Wall
Thunder get Rudy Gay
Wizards get Cameron Payne, Georges Papagiannis, Malachi Richardson, Kyle Singler, 2017 SAC 1st Rd, and 2017 okc 1st rd pick
Wizards are in rebuild. this deal gives them 2 recent lottery picks in Payne and Papagiannis, another 2016 1st rounder in Richardson. a 2017 lottery pick from sac, and another 1st from OKC.
30 Nov 2016 02:46:06
That's not enough for John Wall.
29 Nov 2016 20:35:47
Kings 2 moves
1) Gay for Rubio
- Kings need a PG and Thibs said he wants a vet player. This opens up the Wolves to let the other PG play and can decide if they want Gay back next year
Cousins and Casspi for Porter, Morris, and Oubre
Wall with get to play with Boogie again
Sac moves past Cousins and gets three young and controllable players (that are not big men too)
This will be a young team that can gel, but will not be a playoff contending team (keeps pick from going to Chicago) but better than the 6ers so they do not have to swap picks with them.
30 Nov 2016 02:47:09
Not even close to being enough for Cousins.
29 Nov 2016 19:47:28
Lakers give: Clarkson, Randle, 1st rnd pick
Lakers get: Demarcus Cousins, Aaron Gordon
Magic give: Ibaka, Gordon
Magic get: Rudy Gay, Clarkson
Kings give: Demarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay
Kings get: Ibaka, Randle, 1st rnd pick.
29 Nov 2016 20:07:24
Why would the Magic do that?
The Kings need wings and pointguards, no need for an extra big.
29 Nov 2016 21:45:48
Gasupo, the Magic would do that because they rank among the leagues worst offenses and need offense badly. So basically they are swapping two Defense guys for two Offensive guys. I understand neither Gay or Clarkson are Elite Offensive guys but still are much better offensively.
You have a great point though about Kings not needing an extra Big.
29 Nov 2016 19:44:05
Trade: 1rnd pick Nets 18+ Jerebko
trade: J Wall
Receive: B Knight+ Chriss
Trade:Bender+ Chriss+ T Chandler+B Knight
1rnd pick Miami 18 and 2021+ 1rnd pick Phoenix 17
receive: D Cousins+ J Wall
Trade: D Cousins
Receive: T Chandler+ Jerebko+ 1rnd Pick Phoenix 17+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Miami 18+ 1rnd pick Miami 21.
30 Nov 2016 18:04:59
Wow. Nets 18 for Bender? That's horrible.