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28 Aug 2015 05:50:22
Bucks get Demarcus Cousins
Kings get Jabari Parker, OJ Mayo, and John Henson
Pf. G. Monroe/ D.Inglis
Sf. G. Antekoupo/ C. Copeland
C. D. Cousins/ M. Plumlee
SG. K. Middleton/ R. Vaughn
Pg. M.Carter Williams/ G. Vasquez
Pf. J. Parker/ J. Henson
Sf. R. Gay/ C. Butler
C. W. Cauleystein/ K. Koufus
Sg. O. Mayo/ B. McLemore
Pg. R. Rondo/ D. Collison
28 Aug 2015 08:10:24
Too much for Cousins.
28 Aug 2015 14:56:27
Monroe is playing Center. Kidd does not play two bigs together.
Henson and Monroe for Boogie is more likely.
28 Aug 2015 15:34:18
See now this trades sense for cousins.
Bucks are giving away a ton but They already have a guy that plays Parker's best position. Oj mayo still has some game and hensons a nice replacement for cousins.
Bucks a guy that would fit perfect with the team they're trying to build. They loss Parker but as of now he's really a back up on that team due to talent in front of him unless he plays out of position which he probably will end up doing. Oj mayo won't kill them if they lost him and hensons replaced.
It's a big value deal but a deal that works for both teams.
28 Aug 2015 17:24:36
I don't think cousins and Monroe can play together but if they can make it work team look good on paper
27 Aug 2015 18:15:07
TOR receives Taj Gibson, Tony Snell and Kings (lottery protected pick)
CHI receives Demar DeRozen
27 Aug 2015 21:38:31
I think it would have to be Mirotic
27 Aug 2015 15:58:39
Bulls get : Rudy Gay & Demarcus Cousins
Kings get : Joakim Noah & Jimmy Butler
Sf J. Butler
27 Aug 2015 16:36:26
I'd rather keep Butler, but find a way to get Cousins.
Maybe Noah and Gibson/Mirotic for Cousins? If that's even enough.
27 Aug 2015 19:58:40
The Kings hang up the phone laughing.
27 Aug 2015 15:48:48
Kings get : Al Horford & Avery Bradley
Celtics get : Willey Cauley-Stein
Hawks get : Tyler Zeller & Rudy Gay
Kings get a defensive guard and create what would be one of the most dominating frontcourt duo in Al and Demarcus
Celtics get their future defensive center
Hawks trade an expiring Al Horford which they are not sure of resigning him and get their SF to start and a young center
** maybe Celtics or Hawks should add a 2nd going to SAC
27 Aug 2015 19:59:48
The Kings aren't trading WCS, Cousins or Gay. Everyone is just going to have to deal with it.
28 Aug 2015 02:24:00
You mean Boogie instead of Cauley-Stein.
26 Aug 2015 18:56:50
Saw this somewhere, thought I would bring it up here.
1st round from nets this year
1st round from nets in 2017
1st. The salaries are spot on.
2nd. BOS already has too many players on their roster, so they would have to cut/trade anyway. And what an amazing return they would get.
3rd. SAC gets a great quality return back, plus a couple of first rounders that should be top 10-15 this year, and top 20 in 2017. Also pairs Rondo with a couple of guys he has played with before.
Lastly. SAC would have a DEEP bench, and could be a very dangerous team.
It's a win win.
26 Aug 2015 19:17:11
I like it the return for cousins. Take out even turner he's not a very good player. Maybe one more first would lock it up for the Kings.
Of course this is only assuming cousins wants to leave. If not this trade won't happen.
26 Aug 2015 19:21:47
Depth does you no good if you're not a playoff contender. That starting lineup gets dramatically worse taking Cousins out and replacing him with Sullinger (injury prone).
WCS or Koufos
They'd be worse off than they are now and there currently not a playoff contender.
26 Aug 2015 22:45:20
Here's my problem.
All those Boston players have already played with Rondo and were unsuccessful. I don't think Rudy Gay being with them would change anything
27 Aug 2015 01:13:23
Pull back Bradley and Turner and give them Smart.
27 Aug 2015 12:49:17
Bradley and Turner for Gay
27 Aug 2015 12:50:15
I don't think cousins is the centerpiece of a contender and hope Boston doesn't pull the trigger. All reports read that he alienates teammates and it doesn't look like he could lead a team. I feel he is destined to be a melo and demand a high price for little to no results for his career. Cannot give up smart for him in any way. WAY to much potential as a leader. Cousins is a good player but could not begin to replace the leadership and future potential to Boston would have to give up. The Knicks gave up a similar package for melo and how has that worked out for them?
27 Aug 2015 15:46:11
Boogie and Melo are 2 very different players. Melo needs 40+ touches a game to be efficient where as DC will be the big man and destroy big men in the East. He won't win the West, so moving to the East will make him an MVP caliber player.
28 Aug 2015 01:30:34
It's not about his ability as a ball player. He would dominate the east but he does not elevate those around him. That's why I compare him to melo. No leadership skills and no one (except rondo) seems to want to play with him. If the best player on a team doesn't get along with others or at least make them better then how are they going to lead you to a championship? I wouldn't put the future of my franchise on his shoulders and expect championship contention. Celtics would become a top 3-4 team but would never win the east. To many other teams/superstars want rings more than boogie seems to.
I would chase Paul George and try to draft a poetl next year. Having a top 10 wing and a defensive big is more beneficial in today's game than a top 5 center that wants to play power forward.
28 Aug 2015 04:07:44
The draft picks are great but not one of those players have all star talent.
28 Aug 2015 14:48:42
@anothersmith I think players didn't sign with the Kings because they didn't know if cousins would be traded or not. There organization is dysfunctional. On the Paul George trade I don't think pacers would trade him
25 Aug 2015 20:45:12
1) Cousins for Beal, Gortat, 1st Rd pick
2) Mclemore for Miller and Plumlee
Gay/ butler /capassi
Plumlee / WCS / acy
25 Aug 2015 22:18:15
Not enough for Cousins
23 Aug 2015 16:11:48
Sixers get Clarkson and Randal
Lakers get their own 1st round pick back, the Kings 1st round pick currently owned by the Sixers, and Okafor.
23 Aug 2015 18:17:01
Dude philly in real life sixers wouldn't trade more than the okc and Miami pick for clarkson. You trying to take this way to far
23 Aug 2015 18:27:56
Your trying way to hard to be a troll and to be funny
23 Aug 2015 18:39:27
Philly how about Noel okafor embiid sixers lakers heat Thunder kings picks wroten Covington grant Holmes bs Landry to the Blazers for Damian lilard. Seems like a fair trade
23 Aug 2015 19:22:13
Part of making a deal is to understand both sides of the equation. You wouldn't accept the Lakers and Kings picks for Clarkson. In the past you've rejected drafting Okafor because he wouldn't fit with Randal. I'm trying to figure out how to get Clarkson. This is how deals are made.
Assuming Okafor is of higher value than Randal, and assuming there was not enough value for the Lakers in the two picks in return for Clarkson, I'm adding incremental value to the deal.
The deal's on the table:
Sixers get Clarkson and Randal
Lakers get the Lakers and Kings first round picks and Okafor
Take it or leave it. The deal expires when I crack open my happy hour beer. The pot will not be sweetened any further. When I'm done with my beer I'll go to another team and try to get my second choice of guards.
23 Aug 2015 21:57:48
Leave it. Get your second choice of guards and enjoy your beer
23 Aug 2015 22:01:31
There's going to be plenty of available guards so you probably don't have to think about it a lot
23 Aug 2015 23:03:11
Here you go Phillyrich
Clarkson, Hibbert, & '16 2nd rd pick
For Noel, LAL 1st rd pick back & J Grant
23 Aug 2015 23:04:41
I respect your strategy. Cold beer on a hot day works every time. I don't see many obtainable young pg's with a lot of upside. I say we get a serviceable vet( Chalmers, Huertas, Cole) to play point and then draft Jamaal Murray to be the pg for the next 5-7 years.
23 Aug 2015 23:14:35
I really don't like okafor. He just seems one dimensional. He will be an 15 and 8 guy but I'm not sure if he'll get to 20 and 10. He's slow can't make free throws no defense no jumpshot. Randle is very quick starting to show improvement from the jumpshot. Even if his defense is bad he can make up with it with his speed. I'm really glad lakers took my favorite player in the draft rather than okafor
24 Aug 2015 05:22:48
Jvoung your guy huertas signed with another euro team because he received no interest from the NBA. How hot is it in philly anyway
25 Aug 2015 21:37:30
Been out of town. Here's my response:
1. King, you've exposed yourself as a complete phony. I always knew you were but it took this type of incremental approach for you to prove it for the rest to see.
You are not a moron, but a phony. You get your jollies by berating Sixer fans at most every opportunity as overvaluing their players. Look in the mirror. There's no objective person that would reject either the 2 first round picks or the added cherry on top of the Okafor/Randal swap. Clarkson's a good player. He's not Magic Johnson. Get over yourself.
2. Every time there's a trade involving a Sixer that gets rejected by a Sixer fan, from this point forward every Sixer fan should simply say "He's a core player. We want to keep the young core together and let them grow." Under those circumstances, there is no trade EVER that would drag Covington, for example, away from the Sixers. "Sorry, he's a young core player. We reject the offer of . " Your response should be, "Yes, I understand." Instead you belittle and mock as a child would.
3. You didn't want Okafor because he won't be a 20/10 guy and might just be a 15/8 guy. Andrew Bynum was not once a 20/10 guy and even in his best years did not average both 15 and 8. (I said average and I said both.) Although a headcase, Bynum was a very good NBA player that a team could win Championships with. If Okafor turns out to be a healthy Bynum without being a head case, he'll be a darn good NBA center for many years to come. Personally, I think he'll be better- especially because he's a very good passer and has a very strong work ethic and leadership skills.
The problem we have here is one of PERSPECTIVE and OBJECTIVITY. You obviously- based on the above- have none or if you do its consistently shifting yet you mock others for what you consider the same flaw.
Therefore there's no use trying to have an objective debate or dialogue since you are incapable of doing so. Which means there's no use participating on this website.
I may decide to rejoin legitimate conversation in the future.
25 Aug 2015 23:34:22
Look at you Philly mr tough guy aren't we. How ever said we were comparing Bynum and okafor. Bynum actually could play defense which okafor can't but Bynum had maturity problems. I'd rather have the clarkson Randle potential than okafor and like laker dynasty said that we wouldn't want to wait for a player to grow. Mock me all you want Philly. I'm not leaving the site
25 Aug 2015 23:37:42
Philly your a moron who has thinks sixers are going in the right direction. They've been living off of top picks and trading players for more picks and not singing anyone in free agency because free agents don't know the direction of the team. They trade for more picks with salary dumps. I rejected the Covington trades because clarkson I feel like has more potential than Covington because frankly Covington is only a three point shooter at this point. Wroten was a small sample this year playing only 30 games and having not so good shooting numbers.
25 Aug 2015 23:43:24
I don't jolly myself with berating sixers fans when they start it. We have different opinions so deal with it. clarkson isn't magic. Clarkson is more explosive while magic could do everything on the court and play every position which clarkson can't do. Never compared the two so you got over your self trying to bolster your argument. Sorry I try to use stats which prove you wrong sometimes. Will Covington really help the sixers in the future if he only chucks up threes? Probably not. Mitch kupcheack has come out publicly and said he wants to keep Russell and clarkson together. Like I said sixers would never do it because they don't want a point guard which is a key if okafor becomes better than Bynum like your saying.
25 Aug 2015 23:44:30
Like I said a bunch of guards are available. You posted a lakers trade and most of the time I say something on the post. So you have to be prepared for the response and not get all hurt about it
26 Aug 2015 00:04:27
If okafor was to be like Bynum he would in his best year have to average 19'points 12 rebounds and shoot 70 percent from the free throw line and be regarded as the second best center in the leauge at the time. You asked me if I would take that deal and I said no. Now you say that I'm being a child for answering a question you asked me and you got hurt over it. Kinda like what my friend asked me about his wife before asking her to get married. He asked me what I think she was on a scale of one to ten. he was mad at me for not saying ten when he asked me for my own opinion like you did. Just wanted to throw that out there if your uneducated
26 Aug 2015 00:52:14
Phillyrich this isn't a big deal, don't make it one.
26 Aug 2015 05:24:59
Kiks he always does make it a big deal.
22 Aug 2015 20:06:52
Sixers get Clarkson
Lakers get their own 1st round pick back AND the Kings 1s rounder pick currently owned by the Sixers.
22 Aug 2015 22:01:00
PhillyRich:. make it all 4 of sixers first round picks and the kings 2018 #1 pick for Clarkson, and give us swaggy P back. Five #1's might do it.
22 Aug 2015 22:31:42
Clarkson is not worth 2 first round draft picks
22 Aug 2015 22:53:46
They wouldn't get the Laker pick alone for Clarkson.
23 Aug 2015 01:14:42
Too much phillyrich1
23 Aug 2015 01:39:13
You don't own SAC's '16 1st rd pick, the 76ers can swap their own pick with the King's. 76ers will have a better draft pick than SAC (so they won't swap), so are you saying we get the 76ers own 1st rd pick & our own pick back?
23 Aug 2015 02:52:55
Really philly? That pick won't convey until 2018 most likely
23 Aug 2015 05:24:37
This also sets back lakers rebuilding process another year or maybe 2-3 depending I the player. Something Mitch kupcheak doesn't he said they don't have time to build through the draft every year
23 Aug 2015 15:53:19
Look at you jvoug. Most people on here agree Lakers get the shaft if you just give them their pick back for Clarkson and you get all bent out of shape and say something sarcastic like that. "Five #1's might do it." Don't get mad just because nobody agrees with you, that's childish.
Not every team "builds" through the draft. I use quotes because in my opinion you can hardly call what the 76ers are doing building. They're acquiring talent every year but not getting any better. Soon it will be a revolving door when these rookies can leave, they will. Lakers have enough youth and mortgaging their immediate future for more unknowns through the draft is foolish. They're actually trying to win and compete for a title again so they need to acquire free agents or trade for players to fill in around them, not picks.
23 Aug 2015 16:10:28
New Laker Dynasty: Sixers own the Kings pick top 10 protected to convey two years after the Kings pick goes to the Bulls. The earliest the pick would be is 2018. Then the pick is completely unprotected the following year. This is the pick included in the offer for Clarkson.
So the offer is the Lakers pick back from the Sixers plus the Kings pick as just described for Clarkson.
King declined the trade.
NLD: Do you decline this offer?
23 Aug 2015 16:37:05
If I was la i'd keep that young core together. Right now most of those guy have little value because of injuries or not enough time in the league to prove themselves. I'd keep Randel russel and clarkson close. That's a nice core for the future after Kobe retires and you have hibberts and Kobes contract off the books so you can sign good free agents next season if possible.
23 Aug 2015 18:18:40
Tregib gets it. Keep the young core intact
23 Aug 2015 21:35:05
My fault, I understand now.
I'd still decline. Like I said before, where the Laker's pick will likely end up isn't worth it and a pick that will be conveyed in 3 years from now won't help us get back to the playoffs ASAP. If the Lakers strategy is to build through the draft, then I can see making that trade but they don't. They trade for and sign free agents so they don't have to develop a lot of rookies. This is the best young core they've had in a while, I think its best to keep them together, let them develop and go through their growing pains and continue to trade for and sign veterans who can make them contenders.
24 Aug 2015 01:04:40
You know how there is a site for laker trade rumors, there should also be one of those for philly.
24 Aug 2015 05:23:51
Agree with kiks
20 Aug 2015 08:05:53
Dec. 15 trade (FA signing trade restriction lifted)
Kings get: Markieff Morris, Suns 2016 2nd rd
Suns get: Taj Gibson
Bulls get: Kosta Koufos
Rondo / Collison / Curry
McLemore / Belinelli / Anderson
Gay / Casspi / Butler
Morris / Acy / Dukan
Cousins / Cauley-Stein / FA
Rose / Brooks
Butler / Hinrich / Moore
Dunleavy / McDermott / Snell
Gasol / Mirotic / Portis / Bairstow
Noah / Koufos / Mohammed
Knight / Price
Bledsoe / Booker / Goodwin
Tucker / Warren / Weems
Gibson / Teletovic / Leuer
Chandler / Len
Morris is an ideal fit for the Kings, and can move to a 6th man role if WCS develops. The Suns probably won't have to add a 2nd rounder by the time Dec. 15 comes around, but will still need to trade him before it becomes a mess.
The Bulls clear out a glut at the PF position, and have a reliable backup center to go to when they rest Noah. Koufos is also under contract longer than Gibson.
The Suns make the best out of a bad situation and establish a good defensive culture. Scoring is a couple deadline or offseason moves away - it is easy to get. Having the right veteran pieces to show young players how to win will keep the Suns from going into a downward spiral, and will attract free agents as well.
The Bulls and Kings in particular get much more clearly defined bench rotations as well.
20 Aug 2015 12:45:04
Taj & Tyson would be a terrible front court pairing. Suns wouldn't pull that trigger. They can do better even considering the lack of leverage caused by the demanded trade.
18 Aug 2015 13:01:44
Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz and Sacramento Kings
Sacramento Kings trades: Demarcus Cousins
Utah Jazz trades: Derrick Favors
Boston Celtics trades: Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Jared Sullinger or Kelly Olynyk (I prefer Kelly for Boston and Utah) and 2 first round picks
Sacramento Kings receivers: Derrick Favors and First round pick
Boston Celtics receivers: Demarcus Cousins
Utah Jazz receivers: Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Jared Sullinger or Kelly and First round pick
Why kings does it: new rumors about Kings wanting to trade him and they get a upcoming power forward to put next to Willie Cauley-Stein.
Why jazz does it: Gets a suitable replacement for Derrick Favors which fits better next to Gobert and Evan Turner taking Dante Exum place till he gets back. Plus Avery Bradley fits perfectly with Jazz
Why Celtics does it: Gets their next star
18 Aug 2015 15:38:36
The Kings get screwed
18 Aug 2015 16:55:56
Celtics got nothing valuable besides picks that are mid firsts to trade no way Utah help them land a star and they get spare parts.
18 Aug 2015 22:30:14
Boston has plenty of valuable pieces. D Cousins will be traded And Boston will be the destination.
19 Aug 2015 16:19:30
Celtic fans need to stop reading last year's trade rumors and deal with reality. Boogie isn't leaving Sacramento, especially not for that garbage.
20 Aug 2015 09:37:12
I,Kings n Favor Of Trading DeMarcus Cousins
Last year? more like last week
18 Aug 2015 04:06:33
3 Team Trade
Cousins to Wizards
Faried and Beal plus 2 1st rd picks from Washington to Kings
Gortat to Nuggets
*Wall-Cousins reunited, plus they will go for Durant's free agency next season
Coach Karl loves Faried
Nuggets need a Center than a PF, so they could go for Mudiay-Foye- Chandler-Gallinari-Gortat as starting lineup.
18 Aug 2015 12:57:05
19 Aug 2015 16:21:43
No chance that Boogie goes to the Wizards. If anything, Wall comes to the Kings if Rondo bolts in free agency next year.
17 Aug 2015 23:20:46
Deal before deadline
Kings get Kevin Durant with extension and Enes Kanter
Thunder get Demarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay, and unprotected 2016 1st round pick
Pf. E. Kanter/ Q. Acy/ O. Casspi
Sf. K. Durant/ C. Butler/ J. Anderson
C. W. CauleyStein/ K. Koufas/ D. Dukan
Sg. B. McLemore/ M. Belinelli/ S. Curry
Pg. R. Rondo/ D. Collision/ D. Stockton
Pf. S. Ibaka/ M. McGary/ S. Novak
Sf. R. Gay/ K. Singler/ J. Huestis
C. D. Cousins/ S. Adams/ N. Collision
Sg. A. Roberson/ D. Waiters/ A. Morrow
Pg. R. Westbrook/ D. Augustine/ C. Payne
18 Aug 2015 04:28:12
answer me , why would durant want to extend with kings when the thunder has a better overall line up?
18 Aug 2015 06:26:42
Durant will make way more $ if he doesn't extend and enters free agency. He's not going to sign an extension with any team this year.
18 Aug 2015 13:33:26
The next available 1st round pick the Kings can trade is in 2020. They owe picks to the Bulls and then to the Sixers 2 years after the Bulls.
19 Aug 2015 16:23:26
Durant isn't better than Boogie and Gay. The Kings say no way.
17 Aug 2015 04:08:46
Bucks get Demarcus Cousins
Kings get Greg Monroe & 1st round pick 2016
17 Aug 2015 06:04:18
Bucks say no, bucks are getting players that want to play for them. Cousins is more talented but still a headache.
17 Aug 2015 06:55:46
Not enough for Boogie
18 Aug 2015 03:16:32
Both teams say no.
19 Aug 2015 17:12:11
If the Kings trade Cousins what will they realistically get back for him? If a trade with Monroe is out there for them this may be closer than you think, although I do agree that both teams say no to this specific trade.
14 Aug 2015 19:10:17
Bulls-Kings (would be a dream come true)
Bulls get Demarcus Cousins
Kings get Joakim Noah, Nikola Mirotic, future 1st
Bulls get Terrance Ross, James Johnson
Raptors get Taj Gibson
Bulls get Evan Turner
Celtics get Doug McDermott, future 2nd
13 Aug 2015 23:21:28
76ers / Twolves
Twolves just signed tayshaun Prince today to a one year contract. They currently have Wiggins, KMartin, Muhamahd, Rudez, and Prince all listed as G/F. Somebody has to go, 5 guys, 3 that can legit start, all at the same position doesn't work. They now have 17 signed on the roster.
Sixers get shabaz muhammad
Twolves get Kings #1 in 2018(1-10 protected)and Denver's #2 next year(31-35range).
Twolves simply have too many players. Two extra picks gives them trade flexibility and frees up some $$ this year.
Muhammad gives the Sixers needed scoring. Allows Sixers to move Covington to Sg when stauskas is out.
Sixers will have just enough room to land Muhammad, Markieff, and Huertas. And if all three happen, pigs will fly.
14 Aug 2015 05:31:09
Mumhamed hasn't been helsthly these past two years but he averaged 22 minutes shot 49 percent and then 39 percent from three. Averaged 13.5 points 4 rebounds. It's hard to see them trade Muhammad. If they were to the value would have to be a little upped. rudez likely won't be on the team past the year nor will prince. Kmart might be traded. Muhammad would only save them like 1-1.5 mill. Value likely a little higher
14 Aug 2015 05:33:10
If anything the Wolves give up Rudez, they don't want to give up Shabazz yet
14 Aug 2015 14:36:21
Sixers I think would take the chance on Muhammad.
13 Aug 2015 08:59:20
# TRADE # Kings - Suns
SAC gets E. Bledsoe / T.J. Warren
PHO gets D. Collison / R. Gay
12 Aug 2015 19:50:11
CHI - MIN
CHI get: Kevin Martin & Gorgui Dieng
MIN get: Taj Gibson
CHI - SAC - PHX
CHI get: Rudy Gay
SAC get: Markieff Morris, PJ Tucker & future CHI 1st dp
PHX get: Joakim Noah & Doug McDermott
12 Aug 2015 21:12:36
Why would Phoenix want Noah and chandler? Seems really redundant.
13 Aug 2015 03:30:23
Wolves wouldn't want a 30 year old pf, their core isn't ready to compete just yet and Gibson would be useless by the time they can compete
13 Aug 2015 03:31:24
And how does PHX get Noah and McDermott for Morris?
14 Aug 2015 00:57:36
@wolvesfan they also trade Tucker too, still not fair but they aren't just trading morris.
11 Aug 2015 14:47:41
CHI - SAC - MIL
CHI get: Rudy Gay & Tyler Ennis
SAC get: John Henson, Tony Snell, & OJ Mayo
MIL get: Taj Gibson & Doug McDermott
11 Aug 2015 15:28:55
Mirotic and gasol in the front court? No defense from them.
10 Aug 2015 03:33:16
A few moves for lakers before season
Trade Kelly and sacre for anything I don't care for what as long as they don't get another player
Sign bobby brown and Eric moreland and upshaw
SG clarkson/Williams/ brown
SF Kobe/ young/ brown
Have Moreland upshaw nance and brown spend some time in d leauge and n when injuries begin call them back up.
This team has talent to make the playoffs but I don't think they can be better than suns mavs Jazz or kings. Just develope the young players
08 Aug 2015 15:08:38
PHX - SAC - CHI
PHX get: Taj Gibson & Tony Snell
SAC get: Markieff Morris & PJ Tucker
CHI get: Rudy Gay
08 Aug 2015 21:29:43
Good deal , but I think Bulls must give a pick to Kings?