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27 Apr 2017 19:32:03
Atlanta Hawks Offseason Plans
START REBUILDING because this team does not have a future.
Let Hardaway walk. Don't need to overpay another guard (Bazemore was the first) and be stuck in a situation like the Trailblazers.
ATL: Favors and Burks
Utah: Millsap (S&T)
Reasoning: Utah gets an all star 4 that pairs well with Gobert. Millsap returns to his former team. Utah only has the cap space to sign Millsap if it's a sign in trade because they have a lot of salary already on the books for next season. Atlanta gets two often injured players but both are still young and may just need a change of scenery. Favors gets to play in his hometown. Burks can add some offense punch to an offensively deficient team.
ATL: Ramon Sessions (CHA picks up option), Jeremy Lamb, and 2017 Cha 1st
Cha: Dwight Howard, Wilson Chandler, Jameer Nelson
Den: Nicolas Batum
Reasoning: Atlanta gets a veteran backup pg and a shooter who is from Atlanta. A draft pick also helps their miniature rebuild. Charlotte gets a big who could thrive in the pick and roll with kemba and provides interior defense. Chandler gives them some bench scoring. Nelson is a great veteran pg to solidify a second unit. Denver gets batum whose high basketball IQ, ability to play multiple positions, and length could help a young, defensively challenged team.
Atlanta drafts Zach Collins with Charlotte pick, drafts Terrance Ferguson with own pick, and drafts Jawun Evans with Brooklyn's 2nd round pick.
Atlanta gets two of the youngest players in the draft, who both remain very unknown because of a lack of playing time. Evans could be a very good backup pg in the future.
27 Apr 2017 22:23:44
I had the idea in mind too of a Millsap sign and trade for Favors and Burks. I like that trade.
28 Apr 2017 03:28:18
Noone does sign and trades anymore.
28 Apr 2017 04:08:04
I'm all for the millsap back to Utah idea.
28 Apr 2017 16:43:32
The best part of this. IF it happened. Is that it leaves Atlanta about 20 million under the cap. Enough to go after a decent FA.
09 Apr 2017 19:31:45
Could Melo exit meeting be something else.
Porzingis Hernangomez Noah
Lee Tatum-6th Lotto protect 2019
Sign G.Hill 4yr 80mil
Buy 2 Celtics 2nd and Jazz 2nd
Jackson coaches this team to contention
09 Apr 2017 23:39:34
Courtney Lee and a draft pick for Butler?
10 Apr 2017 00:57:53
Sums it up right there, this reject Celtics fan can't read. Tatum and another lotto protect 1st is 2 1st. Lee is quality talent and Bulls may ask for it to be unprotected, but a good return and that is understandable.
10 Apr 2017 02:36:16
That team has one of the worst defensive PF/ C combos in NBA history, and a HORRIBLE (and incredibly young) bench. You really can't take 5 second round picks as your main bench pieces.
10 Apr 2017 05:31:26
True but balance of best defensive pg SG SF balances team the team.
10 Apr 2017 12:48:23
I like this trade for the Pacers
But no way chicago do this trade.
10 Apr 2017 13:23:47
I'm a Knicks fans. Your trades are beyond unrealistic. Be quiet.
10 Apr 2017 18:19:27
Porzingis Hernangomez Noah
When i first saw that i thought of the George Jefferson from All in the Family!
08 Apr 2017 04:54:39
CHI get Rodney Hood , Dante Exum , Monta Ellis , 2 1st from UTA & 1st round pick IND
* use picks to get best available
IND get Derrick Favors & Alec Burks
UTA get Jimmy Butler & Thad Young
08 Apr 2017 07:29:47
Like it for Utah. They go and sign Chalmers who is great PG off the ball, sign McGee for the backup center and there you have a contender.
08 Apr 2017 08:26:19
If I'm Bulls don't like that return. The sum of all of it isn't bad but none of those draft picks will be that great, Exum hasn't shown much thus far (although he is still young and with his length has upside), Hood will likely be a very solid starter in the league for awhile and Monta Ellis has played quite poorly this season but only has like a year left on his contract. If I'm dealing a superstar caliber player like Butler I'd want a superstar caliber asset as part of my return (someone with potential to be a superstar) . Exum probably is the closest to that as far as upside but that is based mostly on his physical gifts and not what he has shown on the court.
I'd like Utah to make a move like this since they have a lot of assets they can unload. Minimally I'd like to see them move Favors for a stretch 4 pf like Young that would be better suited to play alongside Gobert.
08 Apr 2017 13:21:33
1. Wade would not come back to that Chicago team
2. Utah would need a better backup point (re-sign Mack)
05 Apr 2017 05:42:45
Utah Jazz are good but not great. I think they should be aggressive this offseason to first off ensure they keep Hayward and to make them a true contender. They have best defensive center, an all-star in Hayward and solid role players around them.
I think they should try to bring back Millsap who would give them another all-star and his game would compliment Gobert well. To do this they'd have to decline Diaw's option, then:
Jazz get: Levert, Hollis-Jefferson
Nets get: Favors, Burks, Johnson, Jazz 1st (25), Warriors 1st (via Jazz, 30th)
Probably an overpay for Jazz (maybe Nets throw in Kilpatrick too) but they get two young versatile players on cheap contracts and clear the cap space to add Millsap. They'd still have cap space to sign Hill and then can use Haywards bird rights to resign him.
Things would get quite expensive tho since I think Hood is due an extension next summer. Maybe go after Gallinari instead who will be a bit cheaper.
15 Mar 2017 05:10:49
G.Hill Porzingis Hernangomez Noah
Len 5yr 65mil
Bledsoe Beverly Chandler 3rd pick
Jazz could not afford max deal for both Hill and Heyward
Suns have the team of the future
Rockets need active post center
Knicks go defensive minded.
15 Mar 2017 05:51:21
15 Mar 2017 11:48:05
Why can't Utah afford to pay Hill and Hayward? They have both their Bird rights so cap space isn't an issue. The only thing that may likely come into play would be luxury tax but I assume they wouldn't have traded for Hill in the first place had they been fearful of this. They also could move some salaries to make way for them. Getting Knight for Hill is a significant downgrade for a team that has been in search of a pg for awhile. Hill has played very well the only issue has been nagging injuries.
Great trade for the Suns with Hill and Bledsoe being about the same, Porzingis being a proven future star, Hernangomez looks like a solid propspect, Noah's contract only a few years longer than Chandlers and Suns get out of potentially having to pay Len.
Trade is fairly bad for the Knicks. They'd be foolish to deal Porzingis as he is better than anyone they are getting in return already and nearly as young as any rookies. I don't think Knicks could ever be considered a defensive team when their best player Melo plays very little defense. Also, Phil after his experiment with Drose is unlikely to get an above average pg to run the triangle since it isn't really necessary as the point guard doesn't play a major role.
10 Mar 2017 11:33:30
Boston: Favors, Utah 2018 1st rounder, Charlotte 2018 1st rounder
Charlotte: Thomas, Lyles
Utah: Walker, Crowder
Boston signs Hayward 4 year max, Iguadala or Reddick 2 year 30 mil, McAdoo 3 year 10 mil, re sign Jerebko 2 year 10 mil, draft Fultz.
Charlotte signs Mirotic 3 year 33 mil, re sign Roberts 2 year 5 mil, draft Bridges.
Jazz losses Hill and Hayward, sign Z-Bo 2 year 30 mil, sign Sefolosha 2 year 20 mil, re sign Ingles 3 year 20 mil, draft Lydon or Hartenstein.
Bradley/Iguodala or Reddick/Young
Z-Bo/Lydon or Hartenstein/Diaw
10 Mar 2017 11:44:50
I'm not sure Utah would trade Favors to Boston if they sign Hayward. That Utah pick could become a high lottery pick, if they lose Hayward, Lyles and Favors
I'm confused about Charlotte. Walker is an all star now and he's younger then IT.
10 Mar 2017 13:22:30
Not sure why Boston would do this.
I'm not a huge fan of Thomas, but he's worth far more than Favors. And Danny Ainge leaves first-round draft picks for dinner tips. The last thing they need is more draft picks.
10 Mar 2017 17:24:43
I also thought about this one: Utah sends Hayward ( sign and trade ) and Gobert for Thomas, Crowder, Rozier, Brooklyn 2018 1st rounder, Memphis 2019 1st rounder and 2017 2nd rounders from Cavs and Clippers.
10 Mar 2017 17:51:16
I'd be ok with a trade between The C's and the Hornets
IT and Rozier, 18 Bos pick, 19 LAC pick for Walker and Kaminsky.
10 Mar 2017 18:04:35
How does utah get the 2nd and 3rd best player/ asset and only give up favors lyles and a first?
08 Mar 2017 17:56:29
Clippers blow it all up
Clips get - Crowder, Zeller and 18 Bkl 1st
C's get - Jordan
Thomas - Bradley - Hayward or Brown - Horford - Jordan
Clips get - Rubio, Dieng, and Min 17 1st
Wolves get - Griffin (s&t)
Dunn - Lavine(Bazz) Wiggins - Griffin - KAT
Clips get - Lyles, Johnson, and Uth 17 1st
Jazz get - Cp3 (s&t)
CP3 - Hood - Hayward - Favors - Gobert
Clips draft Frank Ntilikia and Jarrett Allen
2018 draft Michael Porter
Rubio - Rivers
Ntilikia - FA
Porter - Crowder
Lyles - B.Johnson
Dieng - Allen
08 Mar 2017 18:21:44
I don't think Clippers would do any of those trades but I think they get less believable as you go down the post. That team at the end isn't all that exciting and although young I don't think has too much upside. Besides Clippers have dealt away a bunch of their draft picks so a hard reset wouldn't give them any great draft picks and Doc wouldn't want to go this route.
I like the fit of the Clippers with their new teams but I can't believe Twolves and Jazz are able to get stars without giving up any significant pieces.
08 Mar 2017 18:52:44
Why would Wolves do a sign and trade for Griffin when they will have the cap space to sign him outright?
08 Mar 2017 19:56:23
Carl. Griffin would not even think about going to the Wolves as a FA first off, but if he were to then as a S/ T he can get more money per year and longer in years rather than just signing as a FA with Minny.
08 Mar 2017 20:26:18
If Blake wouldn't consider going to minny, a few extra dollars isn't going to tip the scale. Neither of the S&T make any sense, you simply never get that kind of return in a S&T. Maybe a pick for the player straight up, but that's about it.
09 Mar 2017 00:53:54
Any of the 2 S/ T could benefit LAC, they'd get compensation, but only if a deal could be made, and the player (s) or teams want to move on from one another. Between 2017/ 18 and 2020/ 21 the cap will go to 114 million so max deals might be getting more scarce, as you need to have space to fill the roster.
07 Mar 2017 18:32:02
What should Indy do with Paul George?
The best offer we get for for him during the trade deadline was
1) M Smart+ 1rnd pick Nets
2) Gallinari+ Mudiay+Murray
3) Ingram+ players
I believe he would stay if we can sign another star. The only good free agent that could come is propably G Hayward. So we should offer him a max contract, hoping Utah wouldn't match it.
Otherwise we should trade him for the Nets pick (Fullz or Ball) or for Ingram and start rebuilding, before he signs in free agency for the Spurs.
07 Mar 2017 19:05:35
I on't think he'll sign with the spurs, he said he'll sign with the Lakers most likely... so knowing that why would they give up Ingram if they know they'll get George in a year. I think Lakers should keep Ingram Russell and randle, hope for a top 2 this year (draft ball) then suck nuts again next year (not sure if the have any conditions on their pick, I'd assume there are some that would carry over if they keep their pick this year, but don't know for sure) and draft another young stud. Then sign George.
Looks good to be a Lakers fan then... however, I'm still not sure about the 18' pick
07 Mar 2017 19:27:43
I'm pretty positive Utah can't match an offer for Hayward, however they can offer more money than any other team.
07 Mar 2017 20:10:51
i'm pritty sure he won't sign for LA, if he can go to the Spurs
P George wants to win. The Lakers have a talented roster, but they're not going to win.
The Spurs Roster will be great
PF: LM Aldridge
SF: P George
Bench: Green/ Murray/ Anderson.
07 Mar 2017 22:09:26
Indy is in a tough place and their best hope at this point is that George somehow makes an all-nba team so they can throw 200+ mill at him and hope that will keep him there. They don't have too many assets to make a big move with and would be alright but Teague and especially Ellis have been underwhelming. With Turner already in hand I think their best bet is to try and move him and I think Lakers and Celtics make the most sense for them.
Do they have enough cap space to get a Hayward type player? They also need to address pg with Teague being a FA (not sure if they have his Bird Rights) . I don't think they'll ultimately be able to bring in the talent needed to get them into title contention (where George wants to be) .
Spurs wouldn't be a bad landing spot for George to compete but Lakers are the perfect spot for him. Rumor has it he wants to return home to California. Lakers could sign him in FA and not have to give up any assets to get him. Their young core probably won't be ready to compete by then but you can bet that if George is interested in coming to LA they'd be willing to make necessary trades to welcome him. Ideally they'd use future draft picks to move their bad contracts and sign another superstar then take advantage of guys on their rookie deals and their Bird Rights to maintain a team that can contend for awhile.
Additionally, Westbrook will potentially be a FA that summer and previously displayed some interest in going to LA. He looks like he is shaping up to be in a similar situation to George where he has a solid playoff team but don't have pieces or financial flexibility to turn themselves into a true contender.
With Magic in charge of basketball operations now you can be sure he'd be willing to wheel and deal to get Lakers this star power to return them to their former glory. Lakers may not be a contender right now but have plenty of young assets to deal and if they can offload Mozgov and Deng's contracts would have necessary cap space to give two max contracts.
07 Mar 2017 22:29:50
That middle of Leonard, George, and Aldridge would be maybe the best 2-3-4 combo in NBA history.
03 Mar 2017 12:54:17
1) Boston- Utah
Boston: D Favors
Utah: C Zeller+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19 and Clippers 19
Boston: J Butler
Chicago: J Brown+ Bradley+Rozier+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 2020
sign K Durant
resign: Jerebko and A Johnson
C:Favors/ A Johnson
PF: Horford/ Jerebko
SF: K Durant/ Crowder
Sg: J Butler/ M Smart
Pg: I thomas/ Fullz
03 Mar 2017 14:09:47
03 Mar 2017 17:16:45
How would any of that work with money.
03 Mar 2017 18:53:34
it did work on the trademachine
And boston is going to have 44 million in capspace.
03 Mar 2017 19:28:28
They would not have 44 million in Cap space by adding Favors. Zeller has an expiring contract, but by trading for Favors, that adds an extra 12 million on the books for next year. The Butler trade essentially keeps money the same. Fultz would have a 7 million dollar cap hold as well. Celtics would likely have about 20 million in cap space, which is not enough to sign Kevin Durant.
04 Mar 2017 10:28:28
Zeller has a contract for one more year, so i think Boston has 30 M left for signing KD.
03 Mar 2017 03:15:01
NBA Trade Machine Approved
OKC Off Season Plans
Boston / Utah / Oklahoma City
Boston let's Amir Johnson walks
Utah buy out Joe Johnson's contract
Oklahoma City let loose Roberson, Collison, and Gibson too. OKC saves 14 Million ... Boston 12 Million.
Hold your Breath / Blockbuster Trade in the works
Boston gets Westbrook, Kanter, and Hayward from Utah.
Utah gets Crowder from Boston and Singler from OKC.
Oklahoma City gets Horford and Thomas from Boston
Boston add Plus 14 Wins
Utah lost 7 Wins
Oklahoma City lost 1 Win
Utah gets 2018 Nets 1st Round Pick and 2017 Clippers 2nd Round pick too.
Oklahoma City gets 2018 Celtics first Round Pick.
OKC dumps Kanter and Singler Bad Contracts
Boston can use the 12 Million to boost Hayward's Contract.
The 14 Million that OKC saves can get them a free agent that they can use right away
Workable Yes, maybe not so logical at all.
03 Mar 2017 04:36:58
Hayward would have to be a s/ t. Doubtful, Boston could get him in FA
Boston would want Adams instead of Kanter and OKC would want Crowder plus 17 And 18 Nets picks plus IT4 to get rid of Russ. And The Kitchen sink.
If I'm DA, I'd make the deal.
03 Mar 2017 18:17:49
To get Westbrook, it would take Horford, IT, Bradley, and both Nets picks.
02 Mar 2017 15:30:24
Indy - Utah
Utah: a Jefferson+ 1rnd pick 2017
Need a defender and rebounder
Jefferson could be a good benchplayer for them and the draft pick gives them another chance to develop a young talent.
Favors is better and younger then Jefferson, but his stock is low and the scenario works for Utah.
27 Feb 2017 19:01:02
Trade Bledsoe to Jazz for Burks and 2017 1st
Trade Knight and Dudley to Suns for Parsons and Baldwin
- I know Parsons is really playing bad with Memphis so maybe a change would help
Lonzo Ball PG
Tyler Lydon PF
Ball - Baldwin
Booker - Burks - Barbosa
Parsons - Warren
Chriss - Bender - Lydon
Chandler - Len
27 Feb 2017 21:58:12
Chandler Parsons is trash, he's always hurt and even when he does play it's average quality of play. Him and Noah are the most overpaid players in the league. Suns would be fools to trade for him they should just draft Josh Jackson.
27 Feb 2017 22:47:33
Not sure how interested Jazz would be In Bledsoe since Hill has played very well for them when healthy and they should be favorites to resign him. Don't think Parsons is the type of guy a young team should take a chance on especially cause he'd take minutes away from Warren and has a sizeable contract.
28 Feb 2017 00:19:43
Agree that PHX should move Bledsoe. I also think Utah would not go for this. because they have indicated they want to keep Hill
Suns would say no to a Parsons deal.
01 Mar 2017 23:37:48
I think Bledsoe would be great on the jazz! I have been hearing that Hill is wanting 20-25 mill a year. No way he is worth that at this age and injury history.
26 Feb 2017 19:00:05
Pelicans - Alec Burks
Jazz - Alexei Ajainca, 2 future 2nd round picks
Pelicans - Brandon Knight, TJ Warren
Suns - Solomon Hill, Quincy Pondexter (Waive) 2018 protected pick
Resign holiday, Monteunas, Cunningham, Casspi
PG - Holiday - Knight
SG - Burks - Moore
SF - Warren - Casspi
PF - Davis - Cunningham
C - Cousins - Monteunas.
26 Feb 2017 21:08:04
You're crazy. Knight as a backup would be 13.6 mill cap hit. Meaning in two years Davis cousins holiday and knights would be at like 100 mil. So you need 2 starters and 6 bench players for 10-20 million. Destined for failure.
26 Feb 2017 22:02:56
No need for Knight, Frazier can be backup. I also don't think Jazz or Suns do those trades.
27 Feb 2017 01:31:49
Somebody tell burger cap is at 102mil it's OK to spend.
27 Feb 2017 07:45:21
Suns dnt do that trade!
27 Feb 2017 18:17:07
Someone tell shizzee to learn math.
In 2 years, Davis cap is 25.4 million
In 2 years, Cousins cap is what, 28mill?
Knight is 14.6 mill
Holiday is probably around 15 mill.
In 2 years, Hill's cap is 12.2 mill
Asik is 11.2 mill
Moore is 8.8 mill
Ajinca is 5.6 mill
Them 8 have you at over 120 million. You need 4 more players, at minimum contracts. Leaving you. a shallow and awful team.
Learn math shizze.
25 Feb 2017 16:16:42
suns gets stanley johnson andre drummond
piston gets derrick favors joe johnson 1td 2017 suns alex len
jazz gets elfrid payton tobias harris
magic gets reggie jackson
26 Feb 2017 03:30:54
Rough for DET.
26 Feb 2017 18:10:53
am i missing something here. so the suns give up alex len and one 1st, and get drummond and johnson?
Len. in his 3rd year, averaging what, 7 and 6.for a similarly aged center averaging 15 and 14. Youy wouldn't get drummond for len, this years 1st and prob another 1st. but on top you add johnson?
Get out of here suns fan.
23 Feb 2017 18:10:30
Last second five-team monster trade idea:
Clippers in: E. Mudiay, G. Harris, J. Brown, K. Faried, A. Johnson, T. Zeller, R. Rondo, 2017 Nuggets 1st, 2017 Celtics 1st (with swap rights), and 2018 Nets 1st
Clippers out: C. Paul, B. Griffin, D. Jordan, R. Felton, B. Bass, and A. Anderson
Bulls in: A. Bradley, W. Chandler, D. Favors, R. Felton, B. Diaw 2017 Jazz 1st, and 2017 Warriors 1st
Bulls out: J. Butler, T. Gibson and R. Rondo
Celtics in: J. Butler and D. Jordan
Celtics out: A. Bradley, A. Johnson, T. Zeller, J. Brown, 2017 Celtics 1st (with swap rights), 2018 Nets 1st
Nuggets in: G. Hill, B. Griffin, and A. Anderson
Nuggets out: E. Mudiay, G. Harris, W. Chandler, K. Faried, and 2017 Nuggets 1st
Jazz in: Chris Paul, T. Gibson, and B. Bass
Jazz out: G. Hill, D. Favors, B. Diaw, 2017 Warriors 1st, and 2017 Jazz 1st
23 Feb 2017 18:48:25
Can't follow this.
23 Feb 2017 21:26:58
I stopped reading after 5 team trade.
23 Feb 2017 16:09:51
Jazz Favors and Netto
23 Feb 2017 16:06:00
Jazz Favors ans Netto
22 Feb 2017 16:11:01
Phi gets Favors
Utah gets Okafor and TJ McConnell
22 Feb 2017 16:16:36
The value is about right but I don't think favors fits with the sixers. They want to be fast paced. Favors has bad wheels.
22 Feb 2017 07:19:24
JAZZ / SUNS
Utah get B. Knight(12.6) + A. Williams (0.8) = 13.4$
Phoenix get D. Favors (11) + S. Mack (2.4) = 13.4$
22 Feb 2017 14:31:07
Im a suns fan but even i know that doesn't get favors. I can't see why utah would want knight. But maybe len plus tucker, and miami 1st next year.
22 Feb 2017 01:14:25
Cleveland Cavaliers - Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Rights to Cedi Osman
Chicago Bulls trade: Michael Carter Williams
Cleveland finally gets a backup point guard. Chicago gets a decent prospect in return.
Cleveland Cavaliers - Utah Jazz
Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Tristan Thompson, 2021 first round pick, rights to swap first round picks in 2018 and 2020.
Utah Jazz trade: Derrick Favors
Cleveland gets a big that can protect the rim next to Kevin Love. Utah gets Thompson and a few draft picks.
PG: Kyrie Irving / Michael Carter Williams / Kay Felder
SG: Iman Shumpert / J. R. Smith / DeAndre Liggins / Jordan McRae
SF: LeBron James / Richard Jefferson / Kyle Korver / James Jones
PF: Kevin Love / Derrick Williams
C: Derrick Favors / Channing Frye.
22 Feb 2017 02:37:33
Because the east is such a joke cleveland will always be a top 3 team, so why would any team want the right to swap picks? Thise swaps have no value.
22 Feb 2017 05:14:30
Don't like for Cleveland. They can get a MCW caliber pg off the streets (Chalmers or Cole) . After Favors recent knee troubles I'm not sure he is any better than Tristan Thompson and certainly not worth giving up picks and swaps for.