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26 Jul 2016 10:46:57
Utah - Amir Johnson, Jae Crowder, James Young
Bos - Gordon Hayward
NBA trade machine approved.
26 Jul 2016 11:02:36
I don't like trading Crowder for Hayward.
Crowder is on a reasonalbe conttract and i rather trade him for other reasonable contracts. (Butler, Cousins, . )
Hayward is a free agent next year, so if Boston wants him, they should sign him for free, because he's going to be expensive to keep (get)
26 Jul 2016 12:31:41
Don't think it's that big an upgrade especially when they could potentially sign Hayward next summer. Crowders cheap contract gives Celtics a lot of versatility.
25 Jul 2016 00:34:48
Moose for Neto, Diaw, Ingles.
- Bucks add vet experience and better 3 point shooters
-Jazz do no seem willing to trade Hayward and will need to add more impact players to be in the playoff hunt.
25 Jul 2016 03:05:40
That could be a steal for the Jazz if they don't have Gobert and Favors. Since they have those 2 better players i can see them keeping Diaw to add experience.
23 Jul 2016 04:33:08
Boston trades: Jaylen Brown, Jae Crowder
Jazz trade: Gordon Hawyard.
23 Jul 2016 10:43:36
Hayward is a great fit for Boston, but i think they say no.
Crowder is on a reasonable contract and J Brown is a young talent.
Hayward is going to ask a max contract next year, so that will lock Boston.
So they better keep Crowder and brown an go after another free agent next year or sign Hayward in free agency.
23 Jul 2016 18:59:46
No Crowder for Haywood. Brown, 2 2nd rd picks, Young and Hunter.
23 Jul 2016 03:44:19
Den - D. Favors
Utah - D. Gallinari.
23 Jul 2016 04:54:59
Jazz pass. Gallo is hurt too often.
23 Jul 2016 11:46:16
Even if Gallo want injury prone, he alone isn't nearly enough for a really young, good two way big.
22 Jul 2016 19:54:04
Tired of seeing Cousins to the same teams so I'm trying something different.
Jazz and Kings
Jazz get Cousins
Kings get Burks Gobert lyles and first round.
22 Jul 2016 20:01:01
replace gobert and lyles with favors and exum.
22 Jul 2016 20:14:28
Yeah, no. The jazz would say no chance. Favors is a beast. I think Cousins is a stud, but he is also a proven loser. Not worth all that, especially with a team on the rise.
22 Jul 2016 20:26:21
Unpopular opinion: gobert contributes more to winning than cousins does. I'd take gobert (especially considering contracts) over cousins.
22 Jul 2016 20:45:42
Could a Cousins-Gobert backcourt work though lol?
Not saying the Jazz should trade Cousins for Favors though.
22 Jul 2016 21:09:10
I'm 100% positive that a Cousins-Gobert backcourt wouldn't work. They wouldn't be able to guard any other backcourt in the NBA. Too big, too heavy.
23 Jul 2016 01:28:15
Gobert is arguably one of the best defensive centers in the league. He's a stud.
23 Jul 2016 01:42:05
I meant to say front court lol.
23 Jul 2016 01:54:37
I agree about Gobert, who is a top-3 center IMHO. But please read the posts again. He cannot play where @NBA wants him to play.
23 Jul 2016 11:57:41
If cousins is a proven loser then so is everyone on the jazz as well. Cousins seems to have an attitude problem from afar but he has never really had another legit player to play with and the kings are the worst ran organization in the league.
19 Jul 2016 12:16:38
If Hayward doesn't commit to retur to UTA before deadline
BOS/ UTA/ SAC
BOS get Gordon Hayward
Pg Thomas/ Rozier
Sg Hayward/ Hunter
Sf Crowder/ Brown
Pf Johnson/ Olynyk
Ce Horford/ Yabusele
UTA get Rudy Gay and Avery Bradley
Pg Hill/ Exum/ Neto
Sg Bradley/ Burks
Sf Gay/ Hood/ Ingles
Pf Favors/ Lyles
Ce Gobert/ Diaw/ Whitey
SAC get Marcus Smart and James Young
Pg Smart/ Collison
Sg Afflalo/ Temple/ Young
Sf Barnes/ McLemore
Pf Cousins/ Skal
Ce Wcs/ Koufos/ Papa.
19 Jul 2016 13:08:04
I think it's a no for Utah.
19 Jul 2016 13:20:46
Why would it be a no from Utah? Hayward is leaving after the season. Bradley and gay would be a nice return even if he wasnt.
19 Jul 2016 15:08:15
That's a good return if Hayward leaves, but i think he's going to stay.
I like Hayward, i think he's going to be an all star soon.
19 Jul 2016 15:39:58
I could be wrong but I thought Hayward has already said biblically he will test free agemcy. To me that means he's out.
19 Jul 2016 18:04:43
With IT I rather have Bradley then Hayward.
18 Jul 2016 15:57:04
Can anyone think of a Dante exum trade that involves philly? I think it be interesting to have two austrialian guys on the same team in Simmons and exum.
My problem is jazz don't need a big man. Exum won't start for them over hill so he's essentially a back up for the next year.
18 Jul 2016 16:18:48
Well it could be good for him to come off the bench for a year because Hill will be a free agent after this year.
18 Jul 2016 16:25:18
Exum to the jazz is like Embiid for you guys he hasn't shown anything but loads of potential and jazz aren't going to give him away easily, and tbh if I'm the jazz I don't trade exum unless it's for LA's pick and Lawawu (insurance for Gord's upcoming free agency, still way too much potential.
18 Jul 2016 16:30:04
Something centered around Saric? Jazz could use a bench big who could shoot, but they could also use Exum as a backup unless they think someone on the roster is a good backup.
And there's always the risk that Saric won't come over.
18 Jul 2016 16:46:07
Maybe covington/ Grant and sixer 2018 1st rounder (with some protection)?
Though Exum was a pretty high draft pick and looked really good in summer league prior to getting hurt last year so it may cost more.
18 Jul 2016 16:50:38
Wolves fan, Saric signed the other day.
18 Jul 2016 16:52:24
the sixers have nothing of interest for the jazz. The jazz have a young, locked up, SOLID group of big men. Gobert and Favors are going no where.
18 Jul 2016 17:01:53
I agree with Burger. The sixers and jazz are a bad match. Sixers bigman assets don't help jazz.
18 Jul 2016 17:55:10
Oh, hadnt heard that yet.
18 Jul 2016 18:47:19
I don't think that the Sixers have "nothing" that the Jazz would be interested in. Plenty of high picks and a few decent SF types for when hayward undoubtably leaves. It would just depend on how high the price is for him.
18 Jul 2016 21:44:00
Nah, they have nothing. A few decent SF types? Besides Simmons, i'm sure you aren't talking about covington and grant and their career 39% fg. There would be zero interest in trading exum for that.
Plenty of high picks. the kings pick in 3 yeras isn't of interest. you aren't going to give the lakers pick for that, and i'm not entirely positive, but i don't think the pick swap is doable either. so yeah, if the sixers want to give up picks. but those aren't players on the roster.
The sixers are a terrible trade partner for the jazz.
16 Jul 2016 13:02:05
San Antonio Spurs: 2017 Free Agency
■ Think Spurs go for PG-J. Wall/ Washington
and 3F-G. Hayward/ Utah in FA period next
■ Spurs groom D. Murray @ 2G; His Defense
is good, he rebounds, and his ball
handling, mid range shot, and vision of
the game will improve under SA coaching
staff; Love his confidence;
■ My Spurs Fantasy Team → 2017-2018:
PG: J. Wall @ 25M
2G: K. Leonard @ 23M
C: P. Gasol @ 15M
3F: G. Hayward. @ 25M
4F: L. Aldridge @ 25M
Estimated Total of $112-$115M
PG: S. Curry. @ 32M
2G: K. Thompson. @ 18M
C:? @ 12M
3F: K. Durant. @ 30M
4F: D. Green. @ 18M
Estimated Total of $110-$113M
NOTE: I know Wall and Hayward would and
will get more, but playing with an
tradional elite team in the NBA, and
having the chance to win NBA Titles
right now, may make a difference in
signing theses players;
16 Jul 2016 13:10:44
I don't believe John Wall is a free agent next summer pretty sure he is signed through 18-19 season after signing a 5 year rookie max extension that began in 14-15.
Couldn't picture him in a Spurs uniform regardless.
16 Jul 2016 13:31:23
What's hysterical is your estimated totals for the team salaries far exceed the estimate cap. And it's for just the starting 5! Exactly how high above the cap do you believe they will go? Or does money not count for the Spurs?
16 Jul 2016 17:14:26
Reading Comprehension is Fundamental;
■ I said my Fantasy Team with Spurs,
as well as indicating that both
Wall and Hayward would probably get
more if there looking for the cash;
■ I placed the estimate salaries with
Spurs, with Wall and Hayward;
Neither player is on Spur's roster;
■ jaw457→My bad on Wall, your right
on Wall, FA in 2018; Maybe
PG-D. Schroeder/ ATL
■ hamburger→Players I listed for
GS Warriors, are on there roster,
and the salaries I listed next to
them is what they'll be making in
2017-2018; So get a calculator and
ask yourself how GSW are doing it
with just that starting 5! Does
money count for Warriors? That's
$12M @ the GSW 5-Position, combined
for 2 Centers; Yeah, get your
Multiplication Rock On! Count their
salaries with Iggy and Livingston
07 Jul 2016 23:11:49
Suns trade - Bledsoe Chandler and top 10 protected 1st
Jazz trade - Favors Exum and Pleisis
Knight - Exum - Ulis
Booker - (Knigt) Goodwin
Dudley - Warren
Favors - Bender
Len - Chriss
Bledsoe - Hill
Hood - Burke
Hayward - Johnson
Lyles - Diaw
Gobert - Chandler.
08 Jul 2016 02:35:39
I don't see the Jazz doing this deal. They likely feel they have upgraded sufficiently at pg with Hill deal (for the life of me I don't know why they didn't take Teague instead) so I don't forsee them doing this type of deal giving up a young guy in Exum they are very high on and a very good still young and on reasonable contract guy like Favors. Chandler's contract makes deal even more unattractive when they'll likely have to give significant raises to Hill and Hayward next offseason when they're free agents.
30 Jun 2016 22:53:42
Nuggets get Trey Burkes, second round pick
Jazz get Lauvargene, Nelson.
01 Jul 2016 03:40:17
Burke I think would be a good pickup for nuggets as a young alternative to mudiay if he has any bumps in his development. Jazz don't really need another pg in return (nuggets may want to Lee veteran presence) but I think Lauvergne would be a decent piece to add especially since they are loaded at pg (depth wise, I still think they should've gotten Teague instead of Hill)
01 Jul 2016 04:23:23
Pointless, aren't the Jazz looking to move Burke to clear the logjam at PG? Why take one back in Nelson.
29 Jun 2016 20:54:31
Utah - R. Holmes, 2017 2nd rd pick
Philly - Trey Burke.
29 Jun 2016 23:03:32
Not bad, makes sense, philly still has logjam though with Simmons, Saric, Okafor, Noel, Embiid.
29 Jun 2016 23:13:29
Jazz have a bunch of pgs so they are likely looking to deal Burke. At only 22 I think he'd be a great guy to take a chance on. If I'm Jazz I'd probably want more after sacrificing a top 10 pick on him (at least a veteran player that could play 10-15 minutes off the bench at sg/ sf. ) It would be a very good low risk high upside pickup for the 76ers and I think 76ers should try to grab him even if Jazz ask for a little more (I'd do like Hollis Thompson and a 2nd rounder)
30 Jun 2016 14:55:40
This makes sense to me.
29 Jun 2016 17:30:09
MIN - UTAH - SAC
MIN get: WCS and Trey Burke
pg. Dunn/ Burke
sg. LaVine/ Jones
sf. Wiggins/ Prince
pf. WCS/ Garnett
c. Towns/ Pekovic
UTAH get: Shabazz Muhammed
pg. Hill/ Mack
sg. Hood/ Exum
sf. Hayward/ Muhammed
pf. Favors/ Lyles
c. Gobert/ Pleiss
SAC get: Ricky Rubio and Gorgui Dieng
pg. Rubio/ Collison
sg. McLemore/ Curry
sf. Gay/ Casspi
pf. Cousins/ Skal
c. Koufos/ Moreland.
29 Jun 2016 18:01:34
Why would the Wolves want Burke? And no thanks on a big man who has literally zero offensive game whatsoever, for that price.
29 Jun 2016 19:18:04
I agree the wolves are giving up to much. While WCS is a really good defensive player and good enough on offense, he is not good enough too warrant the t-wolves giving up Rubio, dieng.
29 Jun 2016 19:18:25
29 Jun 2016 19:25:26
You forgot Bjelica for Wolves but I think they say no. Backups for shooting guard, small forward and center are not good or reliable.
26 Jun 2016 21:05:48
Nuggets trade Faried, Nurkic, Harris.
Utah trades Favors and Mack.
26 Jun 2016 09:02:12
#1▶76ers / Utah
C: J. Okafor
3F: R. Covington
**: 2017 2nd Round
**: 2018 2nd Round (1st Highest of 3)
3F: G. Hayward
PG: G. Hill
2G: A. Burke
C: J. Okafor
3F: R. Covington
PF: D. Favor
#2▶76ers / Bulls
C: N. Noel
2G: N. Staukus
3F: J. Grant
PF: D. Saric (Rights)
**: 2017-LAL 1st #1-#3/ Protected
2G: J. Butler
■ Bulls in Rebuilding Mode; Noah, Gasol, &
Rose→ All Gone;
PG: I. Smith/ T. McConnell
2G: J. Butler/ T. Luwawu
C: J. Embiid/ D. Powell
3F: G. Hayward/ T. Luwawu
PF: B. Simmons/ R. Holmes/ C. Landry
NOTE: 76ers Resign PG-Ish Smith to help
assist B. Simmons with guard duties
on offense in 2016; In 2017, Ish
Smith becomes 76ers back'up PG;
NOTE: B. Simmons playing Point-Forward on
76ers Offense, makes L. Ball of UCLA
a perfect fit @ PG in 2017 Draft
NOTE: 76ers Sign Dallas C-6'10" D. Powell
@ 4-Years $25M
NOTE: 76ers Round Out Team in 2017-2018;
Draft PG, and Sign UFA Reserves to
■ 76ers 2017 Draft;1 Lottery Pick (SAC)
PG: L. Ball/ 6'6" UCLA
PG: M. Fultz/ 6'5" Washington
PG: D. Fox/ 6'3" Kentucky
PG: F. Ntilikina/ 6'5" France-International
PG: D. Smith/ 6'3" N. C. State.
26 Jun 2016 14:15:23
No from Jazz, Hayward worth more than that.
26 Jun 2016 14:26:48
Did Rudy Gobert go back to france?
26 Jun 2016 15:19:45
Why would Utah want okafor? Gobert is considerably better than okafor.
26 Jun 2016 15:28:07
Gobert is considerably better defensively****.
26 Jun 2016 16:07:34
So, SOB, do you think Okafor is better than Gobert?
26 Jun 2016 16:22:17
Ok, redefine that: gobert has CONSIDERABLY more value than okafor and contributes more to winning than okafor ever will. So, he's a considerably better center than okafor.
An elite defensive center beats an elite scoring center (which I'm not sold that okafor is yet) .
26 Jun 2016 19:52:47
Benmiller. Spot. On.
26 Jun 2016 21:03:26
Utah needs scoring on frontline; R. Gobert, good defense, so good he lead the Jazz in block shots during playoffs;
■ Did Jazz make playoffs this season?
Who's scoring points in the paint
for Utah, outside PF-D. Favors? Utah
needs scoring down low in the West
Conference▶ Utah need to focus on
the defensive play from there
Guards and Wings; Put Gobert on
Cleveland, San Antonio, GSW, or a
Indiana team, his presence would be
valuable to a title run;▶With
a Utah team, No! They need pieces,
and I rather have a Center giving
me 17-20ppg/ 8-9rpg than a
starting Center @ 2 blocks, and
averaging 10-11 boards for a non-
playoff team in the West;
▶Utah guards always get
tough pressure up top on offense,
because there's no scoring threat
down low; Favors is the only choice
giving them 15-16ppg, along with
his 4 fouls pg
■ Amazes me how people post up about
how these Rookies and 2-Year
players will NEVER develop their
games over their careers; So if
Okafor defense is suspect now,
NBA teams/ coaches are not capable
of making him, or other young
players any better on Defense; Not
to say they'll be selected All D
Teams during their careers, but how
can anyone think a Rookie or 2nd
year player cannot become a better
outside or mid-range shooter,
better rebounder, or even a better
defensive player; Players 19,20 and
21 years old starting in the NBA
right now, will get much better at
some of their present weaknesses;
▶Take my chances/ future with Okafor
scoring 18-20ppg 10 boards and
the coaching staff
improving his defense @ 20 years
old, than Gobert @ 8-9 points, 10
rebs/ 2 blocks, 5 years older;Gobert
played about 60 games in 2015-2016;
Does that label Gobert injury prone
for the remainder of his career;
NO, Just like Ja Okafor can't be
labeled as a career non-defensive
performing center after one year
▶Guess B. Simmons/ 76ers mid-range
shot will never improve, even
though he and the coaches are
working towards his improvement
■ How many all star teams G. Hayward
been selected too, or how many times
did he make any All-NBA Teams? Is
Hayward an Olympic selection: ▶
Don't Go There thinking Hayward is
a player worthy of giving up the
house for him; Utah know's Hayward
will depart in Free Agency in 2017,
why not get a young scorer down
low to compete in the West:
■ Okafor, D. Favors, Gobert be a nice
frontline rotation; Ask the Utah
guards who they rather throw the
ball down low to, then set up for
the open look: Gobert or Okafor?
■ When your Defense can't put you
into the Playoffs each year, It's
time to add some Offense:
27 Jun 2016 00:35:04
I agree gobert is obviously more valuable, but Utah isn't winning a ton of games.
27 Jun 2016 00:53:01
Utah was decimated by injuries, is really young, and almost made the playoffs. They have a great core to build on. Also, favors is their big that can score.
27 Jun 2016 02:42:22
D. Favors Utah's main scorer; Okay, see how many playoffs the Jazz will make with Favors as their main scoring option up front;
▶Like D. Favor as a 3rd option, but he needs that young or veteran dawg with him in the trenches on offense, which helps the Jazz guards (Utah Guards-No All Star Candidates) who need as much help as possible to create open shots;
▶ Every team is young, but it's about who's willing to make that move to jump ahead of others; Top Free Agents are not running to play for Utah, and the Salary Cap makes it easier for teams to jump ahead of others; So ALMOST making the playoffs this season doesn't make guarantees for making the playoffs next year; This ain't the Eastern Conference!
25 Jun 2016 16:41:04
76ers - Jazz
76ers receive Trey Burke, Alec Burks, and Jazz 2017 first round draft pick
Jazz receive Jahlil Okafor and Timothe Luwawu
This trade is good for both teams because the Jazz are able to get rid of two players at the guard position where they already had many players, while they also receive another young center to help in the future. The 76ers are able to get to decent guards to help improve their weak backcourt.
25 Jun 2016 16:49:19
Take out Luwawu he is not an extra piece the Sixers are trying to trade they would rather trade Stauskas/Covington
25 Jun 2016 17:14:44
The guys coming from the jazz wouldn't get it done.
25 Jun 2016 21:07:26
Not even close.
26 Jun 2016 02:50:57
Dang Okafor's value may be down but it isn't that far down. He doesn't make sense to go to Jazz since they are already set at big man with Gobert, Favors and Lyles as young guys with two who've already shown their among top in the league. For this reason they aren't going to give up enough to get him since they don't need him.
23 Jun 2016 01:55:16
Hawks get: Trey Burke
Jazz Get: #21 pick.
23 Jun 2016 03:09:57
Would've happened in 3 team deal from earlier.
23 Jun 2016 03:11:03
If #12 gets you Teague then Burke shouldn't be able to get you #21. Jazz should've included this in their trade. I'm not sure why they elected to get Teague instead of Hill and why they didn't get more compensation from Pacers.
23 Jun 2016 00:33:02
I think Trey Burke could've gotten utah George Hill. They should've kept that pick.
23 Jun 2016 03:33:34
I don't agree Burke could've gotten Hill or they should've kept their pick but I don't think Hill is much of an upgrade on Burke let alone Mack and definitely not worth the #12. I'm not sure why they include Pacers at all and didn't just get Teague who I think is younger and better player than Hill for themselves.
23 Jun 2016 00:19:57
Tor: T. Lyle, Alex Burks
Uta: Ross, 9th Pick.
23 Jun 2016 01:58:16
Jazz say no.
23 Jun 2016 03:35:44
I don't think there is anyone Utah would be interested at #9 so I don't see them doing this deal. Prospects drop off after 8 where top 8 prospects to be drafted are widely agreed on its just a question of what order.
22 Jun 2016 21:11:00
What is in the water in NY?
Reports of hill to Utah for the #12
Haywood to Boston for Bradley smart and the #3
And Rose to NY for Lopez Calderon and? .
Hold on to your seatbelts, its going to be a bumpy ride.
22 Jun 2016 21:58:59
haven't heard of that Boston rumor yet. where did you see/ hear it?
22 Jun 2016 22:33:03
The Hayward deal was a hoax. I'll be in the corner thinking about what I've done for a while.
22 Jun 2016 20:13:44
Teague to Indy
George hill to Utah
#12 to Atlanta
We have movement ladies and probably mostly gentleman.
22 Jun 2016 23:49:30
For the life of me I don't understand why Jazz chose to include Pacers and get Hill instead of Teague. In my opinion they are very similar style players but Teague is younger and better player and they have similar contract situations.