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15 Apr 2018 19:55:59
OKC starts a rebuilt
1) S&T
OKC: Deng+ Ingram
LA P George
2)
Utah: Westbrook
OKC: Mitcchell+ Ingels+Burks
3)
OKC: T Thompson+ JR smith+ 1rnd pick Nets (Bamba)+ future first round pick Cle
Cle: Ingels+Adams
15 Apr 2018 21:15:30
Cavs not giving up brk pick for overpaiad Steven Adams.
15 Apr 2018 21:52:37
chicago, he's not overpaid tho.
15 Apr 2018 21:52:53
but the trade is still stupid.
14 Apr 2018 15:51:31
The Bucks get Deandre Jordan, Lou Williams, and Sefolosha
The Jazz get T Harris, Beverly, Dellavedova and Snell
The Clippers get Rubio(exp), Burks(exp), Jerebko (exp), Henson, Brogdon, Utah's 2018 1st, Utah's 2020 1st lottery protected, Milwaukee's 2020 1st top 8 protected, and a Bucks 2nd plus they save 10 million this year and 40 million next year.
14 Apr 2018 16:19:20
Bucks get Andre Jordan AND Lou Williams for scrubs like delladova, henson, snell, brogdon (OK player) and a protected first in 2 years?
14 Apr 2018 16:50:24
I'd say Brogdon is a good young player with some upside side and Snell is probably breaks even valuewise. I don't think Jordan at 30 on an expiring contract has a ton of value and Williams is going to be 32. Maybe, the Bucks should give up a little more (another protect 1st or Maker? ), but I think if someone was going to give up anything decent for either of those guys, they would have been moved already. Plus, Utah needs another pg in the deal, so it isn't terrible for them to take Delly even if he is overpayed. I think the Clippers can handle taking on 1 mildly bad deal in Henson since they're shedding so much moment and adding 3 picks and Brogdon. IMO, Harris is probably the most valuable guy in this deal. He can score, shot the 3 at 40 percent this year, and is a pretty versatile defender plus he's only 25.
14 Apr 2018 19:05:47
@rkeene_16, Agreed! Milwaukee needs to get a decent Center. Also L. Williams over Snell or Brogdan, Dellevedova and Henson (maker) are just taking up space, and Cash! As far as T. Harris, Agreed! Milwaukee should have never traded him to the Magic for JJ Riddick, who couldn't wait to leave the Buck's. Brogdan is ok, But still upset over losing his starting PG position to Bledsoe, Even though he was drafted as a SG. Maker has been a complete disappointment. 7'1" and more of a 3 point shooter than defender. The only change I would make is taking out Sefolosha, and putting in S. Dekker. Milwaukee needs a backup SF.
Thoughts?
14 Apr 2018 19:45:38
Torque, Sefolosha is a 3 and d Sf that can play the 2 and the 4 in small ball lineups. He's a really good defender and is a much better player than Dekker, who can't really play the 4 or the 3, but is worse at the 5, 2, and 1.
15 Apr 2018 03:09:15
i think clippers don't get enough in that trade and trade jordan williams and harris? in useless return? if lebron james sign with clippers with 40m/ years if be better are you idiot? can you stop posting please its not good.
12 Apr 2018 23:55:16
The Cavs get Sefolosha, Richardson, Dragic, and Whiteside
The Jazz get James Johnson, Waiters, and the Cavs 2023 1st top 10 protected
The Heat get Alec Burk(exp), Jerebko (exp), Thompson, Clarkson, Zizic, Jr Smith(buyout), Korver (buyout), the Brooklyn 1st, and the Cavs 2021 1st plus they save 11 million this summer and 45 million next summer.
The Cavs get a real center, a 3rd scoring option and 2 good 3 and d wings at the expense of the future and luxury tax
The Jazz can let Favors walk as they get Johnson, who's a much better fit next to Gobert. They add some much needed offense in Waiters. They lose Sefolosha, but they've been fine with out him this season and it seemed like they were ready to let Burks walk any way. They also end up with a 1st.
Miami gets to clear out some wings, clear the books, stay away from luxury tax, cash in on their older players and start moving to a more sustainable direction.
13 Apr 2018 00:31:52
Not going to lie. Stopped reading the second I saw top 10 protected on a pick 5 years away. No one has interest in that.
13 Apr 2018 01:09:23
Burger u miss read it its 2033.
13 Apr 2018 04:21:10
There is no way the heat trade 5 of their best 7 players for expiring contracts and a couple of 1st round picks, one of which is years down the road.
13 Apr 2018 07:32:22
Terrible for the Jazz. Waiters is over-rated. Rubio is better, and so is Mitchell, and Exum. Favors is younger than Johnson. Junk protected 5 year away pick.
13 Apr 2018 18:27:24
This rkenne16 is a joke lol. Cabs have not but the Brooklyn pick which is 8th. Yur not getting Whiteside, and dragic for the 8th pick.
10 Apr 2018 22:02:02
The Hawks get Jr Smith(buyout), Korver, Zizic, the Cavs 2021 and 2023
Give up Bazemoore and Schroeder
The Nuggets get Love, Gobert, Schroeder, Sefolosha, and Epke
Give up Millsapp, Jokic, Harris, Plumlee, and Faried
The Jazz Get Jokic, Thompson, Clarkson and Cedi Osman
Give up Gobert, Sefolosha, and Epke
The Cavs get Millsapp, Harris, Plumlee and Bazemoore
The Cavs give up Love, Osman, Clarkson, Jr, Korver, Zizic, the Cavs 2021 and 23 1st
10 Apr 2018 22:14:56
Cavs trade Thompson as well*.
11 Apr 2018 00:12:49
rkennen_16 i don't see i don't think nuggets willing to give up their franchise player jokic.
10 Apr 2018 10:37:10
The Jazz get Brown, Bayless, the Lakers 18 1st, Philly 18 1st, Boston 18 1st and the Grizzlies 19 1st plus they get 30 million in cap
They give up Gobert, Ingles and Crowder
The Celtics get Gobert and Crowder
The Celtics give up Brown, Horford, their 2018 1st and the Grizzlies 2019 1st
The 76ers get Horford and Ingles
The 76ers give up the Bayless, the Lakers 18 and their own 18
The Celtics get the best young defensive center in the league to come in and take their defense from great to down right scary. It gives them the center of their future and leaves them with plenty of assets if they want to make another move. They also get Crowder to fill in for the loss of Brown, now in a bench role.
The Jazz are stuck in Limbo with a team that has no way of making their roster better without trading away either Mitchell or Gobert. Without doing that it seems like they'll fall into that perennial 1st or 2nd round out team that doesn't have the fire power to be better. This starts a minirebuild around Mitchell who looks like he can be the guy on a championship team. He, Brown, the picks and whatever freeagents they can bring in could create a team that in 3 or 4 years are perennial favorites out west.
Philly adds 2 veterans that can help them take the next step. Horford is a great defender, can stretch the floor, can help facilitate second units, can play beside Embiid, can help keep Embiid's minutes down and can be a great fill in guy at center when Embiid misses games. Ingles is a perfect 3 and d guy for the 76ers. He can help alleviate the problems of Simmons and Fultz lack of shooting.
08 Apr 2018 23:34:35
Mavericks / Jazz Trade:
Mavericks Receive - 19th pick, Jae Crowder, future second round pick
The Mavericks clear out Harrison Barnes's expensive contract and gain another first round pick. They need to continue to gather young assets and clear out money for future free agents.
Depth Chart:
(Scenario includes their draft picks)
1- Dennis Smith Jr.
2- Yogi Ferrell
3- Jae Crowder/Luka Doncic?
4- Marvin Bagley/Jaren Jackson Jr./Dirk Nowitzki?
5- Maximilian Kleber/free agent signing
Bench = Wesley Matthews, Dirk Nowitzki, Doug Mcdermott+reserves, free agents, rookies
Jazz Receive - Harrison Barnes
The Jazz had a terrific 2017-2018 season as Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert shined alongside arguable the best supporting role player cast in the league (Rubio, Ingles, Crowder, Favors, etc). However, they need to take the next step. Harrison Barnes is an athletic scorer that can play solid defense and grab boards.
He is big and can play the 3 or the 4 and he can stretch the floor. Him and Donovan Mitch would be the primary ball handlers/scorers and Ricky Rubio would be able to dish passes to them and make plays. Gobert is an elite shot blocker and rebounder and they will still have favors as another offensive weapon / threat on the glass.
Depth Chart:
1- Ricky Rubio
2- Donovan Mitchell
3- Harrison Barnes
4- Derrick Favors
5- Rudy Gobert
Bench = Joe Ingles, Royce O'Neale, Alec Burks + reserves, free agents, rookies
09 Apr 2018 02:14:49
Im disturbed by how dallas get those picks jackson doncic and Bagley. Other that great move.
09 Apr 2018 02:32:21
Crowder, and his salary make him a valuable piece in Utah, and the ability to re-sign Favors this summer. Harrison Barnes should be averaging 25+ a game in DAL. He isn't that interesting, other than an expensive Ariza.
09 Apr 2018 03:23:31
Crowder is worth more than Barnes.
09 Apr 2018 05:09:37
I forgot Exum re-signing as well. Utah needs the cash Barnes would require.
04 Apr 2018 12:21:27
I think East are all set now for playoffs..
Raptors, Celtics, Cavaliers, Sixers
Pacers, Wizards, Bucks, and Heat
West lockup teams: Rockets, Warriors and Blazers
Its up to these 7 teams fighting for 5 spots left:
Spurs, Thunder, Wolves, Jazz, Pelicans, Nuggets and Clippers
06 Apr 2018 00:54:19
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
28 Mar 2018 11:34:15
UTAH / IND
Jazz receive C. Joseph / G. Robinson II
Pacers receive J. Crowder / R. Neto
29 Mar 2018 08:36:37
I can't see Utah doing this.
They give a lot to get Crowder.
11 Mar 2018 17:15:05
If Lebron leaves
The Cavs get Burks, the Jazz 2018 1st and the Jazz 2020 1st top 10 protected.
The Jazz get Love
12 Mar 2018 05:24:26
Jazz are young, trading away the future for a 30 year old isn't a good move. Jazz aren't in need of veteran guidance from Love, and he is the antithesis of defense, Jazz are a defensive team. Favors is going to be re-signed also. Love would be coming off the bench. HOU, Love for Anderson, and a 1st would be a good place for him.
12 Mar 2018 13:45:40
Love would come off the bench behind Favors? Wow, that’s absurd.
Have you considered that Utah might want to sacrifice some defense for more offensive firepower? That would make sense to me.
12 Mar 2018 19:34:54
Considered it then I thought throwing away picks, and Burks for significant salary addition for a guy that would now make the Crowder deal null, and void, and getting nothing in return for Favors. Again, thanks for the eye-opening penny's worth. I am completely awakened now to your logic, and prowess. What was I thinking. Punk.
03 Mar 2018 21:59:54
Assuming Lebron walks
The Cavs get Rubio, Burks, Utah's 1st and Utah's 2020 1st lottery protected
Utah gets Love, Clarkson, and a Cavs 2nd
05 Mar 2018 17:09:50
Why 14 thumbs down? It's not a bad proposal I'd maybe drop Utah giving the 2020 1st and Clev dropping the 2nd.
25 Feb 2018 14:58:16
Boston: R Gobert
Cle: A Horford
Utah: t Thompson+ JR smith+ J Brown+ 1rnd pick Nets
25 Feb 2018 15:51:29
Don’t think Cleveland would give up Brooklyn pick for Al Horford if they do trade that pick on draft it would have to be a superstar.
25 Feb 2018 16:17:32
Oddly enough, I’m going the reverse of the Whiteside discussion. I think Gobert might be the best center in the NBA (to me, he is) . The jazz are one of the best teams in the NBA while he’s healthy this year. I can’t see them making him available. If they did, Tatum has to be involved.
I also think Utah would rather have Horford than the Cleveland package.
Tatum, Horford and a first (maybe the clippers or Memphis ones, a protected pick) for Gobert.
25 Feb 2018 19:01:35
Osman, Thompson nets pick and future first for gobert.
26 Feb 2018 23:18:32
Celtics wouldn't give up Horford and Jaylen for Gobert. Gobert is a great player but the Celtics need Horford's shooting and Jaylen is a great young prospect.
23 Feb 2018 03:52:11
UTA/SAS/CHI
UTA get Kawhi Leonard & Robin Lopez
Pg Rubio
Sg Mitchell
Sf Leonard
Pf Ingles
Ce Lopez
SAS get Rudy Gobert, Jae Crowder, 2nd from CHI & Dante Exum
Pg Parker
Sg Green
Sf Crowder
Pf Aldridge
Ce Gobert
CHI get UTA 1st round pick & Patty Mills
Pg Dunn/Mills
Sg LaVine
Sf Valentine
Pf Markannen
Ce Portis
23 Feb 2018 05:56:12
CHI should never get a 1st for R. Lopez. He isn't worth 13 mil next season let alone a 1st even with 2 second round picks included.
23 Feb 2018 06:01:24
RoLo won't get you 1st rounder.
08 Feb 2018 18:22:59
Done trade
Miami gets Wade
Cleveland gets Hill and Hood
Sacramento gets Joe Johnson and Shumpert
Utah gets Rose and Crowder
08 Feb 2018 18:34:17
All true but separate trades. Cavs got a "heavily protected" 2nd round pick from Miami for Wade.
08 Feb 2018 18:40:57
Yeah the 2nd went to the Kings immediately though so it's essentially a 4 way deal when you lay it out even if the Wade trade was separate.
08 Feb 2018 19:25:37
Utah got ripped off. Big time.
08 Feb 2018 19:39:11
Jorga, apparently, they were really high on Crowder. I'm surprised how little they ended up getting for him. I'm accused of being a Cavs homer and I thought they should have gotten atleast a late 1st as well.
08 Feb 2018 20:06:53
Apparently THEY were high for being high on Crowder. Utah supposedly had 20 teams inquire about Hood and that was the best they could do? Wow.
11 Feb 2018 04:41:27
Crowder is cheap and way better and healthier than Hood. Utah wants to win games next year and Jae is a great complimentary player.
08 Feb 2018 18:14:05
3 team trade
Cavs get - Hood and Hill
Jazz get - Rose and Crowder
Kings get - Johnson and Shumpert
Cavs also trade Wade back to Heat
Hill/Clarkson
Hood/Jr
Lebron/Korver
(Love)/Nance
Thompson/Nance
08 Feb 2018 18:25:03
Posted the same thing before yours listed. I love this one for the Cavs. Losing Wade hurts a little, but Hood and Hill are great additions. The team is definitely a lot younger.
08 Feb 2018 18:35:40
^^^^ LMAO wow rkenne_16 you're good. How many times are you going to say that you posted something first? ESPN had it before you LOL stop acting like your an NBA inside reporter getting first word of these trades SMH.
09 Feb 2018 15:10:57
Kcku, that wasn't what I was trying to imply. I just didn't mean to repost the same thing as NBA16.
08 Feb 2018 13:32:48
Denver gets Joe Johnson, Crowder, the Cavs 18 1st and a Cavs 2nd
Utah gets Chandler, Frye(exp), and Rose(exp)
The Cavs get Mudiay and Favors
08 Feb 2018 14:51:05
I like this trade for the Cavs and Denver.
But Utah should trade Favors trade for younger assets or keep him.
08 Feb 2018 15:21:05
I think the problem with keeping Favors for them is that he'll probably get close to 15 million, he doesn't fit at pf well in the league and next to Gobert, they have a solid cheap back up center in Epke already, and the roster needs help in other areas. Resigning both Favors and Hood (plus potentially Exum) will put them well over the soft cap. It's rumored that they have interest in Chandler, but I would imagine that Denver wants a first out of him. I'm not sure that Utah should give that up. This helps them get the first for him without giving up their future assets.
08 Feb 2018 16:02:12
DEN has made offers for Evans. Mudiay is essentially a pick, or developing talent. Why would DEN want a late 1st, and a 2nd for a former Lottery pick?
08 Feb 2018 16:15:39
Jorga, Mudiay has gotten less minutes every year in the league and they've continually been looking for a starting pg, while also having Murray. They clearly don't view him as the future of the position and it doesn't appear they don't seem him as valuable player. It's also rumored they're looking to move him or Chandler for a 1st to get rid of Faried with.
08 Feb 2018 17:05:38
Less minutes every year in the league? He is still on a rookie contract! I am aware of the RUMORS! How is a late pick, a 2nd, and Crowder, Johnson = a starting caliber point guard? I disagree with you, and I don't think Mudiay is junk. He's shown signs of being good. He just isn't better than Harris, Murray, or Barton. Doesn't mean he gets traded for garbage. He's good enough for CLE though. Surprise, surprise!
08 Feb 2018 17:40:56
Moot point now, but I don't see Mudiay as even an average starting pg. Maybe low end, but probably a solid back up that's still young. He could develop and his shot has improved, but obviously, he isn't where Denver or anyone thought he would be at this point.
08 Feb 2018 20:08:08
Jorga, Mudiay was traded for a 2nd. Haha.
08 Feb 2018 10:54:10
Utah: D Lillard
Phoe: McCollum
Portland: B Knight+Rubio+ Mitchell+ 1rnd pick Phoe+ 1rnd pick Utah+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021
08 Feb 2018 16:08:49
Ridiculous trades will happen before the draft. Not until then. B. Knight makes absolute 0 sense though. Kills this deal immediately.
08 Feb 2018 17:26:36
No way I'm trading the suns pick for McCollum. He's a goo d player, but he's not even an all star, much less franchise player. There's potentially at least 5 guys in this draft considered franchise players. If the pick falls out of the top 7 then maybe I move it. But I'd rather have the rookie contract.
08 Feb 2018 17:43:34
You want the Sun's to deal one of the top picks in this draft for who? lol not happening.
08 Feb 2018 02:38:52
4 team trade
Kings get - Favors(exp), Johnson(waive) and Hood
Celtics get - Evans
Jazz get - Hill and Green
Grizzlies get - Smart and Labissiere
Fox
Bogdanovic/Hield
Hood
Favors
WCS
Irving
Brown/Evans
Tatum
Morris
Horford/Monroe
Hill/Rubio
Mitchell
Ingles
Green
Gobert
Smart(Conley)
McClemore
Brooks
Davis
Gasol/Labissiere
06 Feb 2018 01:25:23
The Cavs get Favors, Johnson, Hood, Hill, Utah's 1st top 5 protected, a 2nd from Chicago and Utah
The Bulls get Jr Smith and the Cavs 2018 1st top 20 protected
The Kings get Frye, Shumpert, Zizic and a Utah 2nd
The Jazz get IT and Love
06 Feb 2018 04:06:47
Still a bad trade for Utah! The Jazz give up. Favors, Hood, Johnson, a 1st, and a 2nd for IT and Love? Thanks rkene_16, Needed a laugh! Oh yeah, I forgot, You're a Cav's fan!
05 Feb 2018 21:41:48
Utah: Lillard+Turner
Portland: Hood+ Favors+Jordan+ J Johnson
Clippers: Rubio+ 1rnd pick Utah
06 Feb 2018 00:01:35
I'd pass if I were Portland. They're trading a legitimate star, who is controlled for multiple years for a bunch of guys who can walk at the end of the year and getting little in the way of young talent.
05 Feb 2018 21:04:35
Magic asking for fire sale.
Orlando get Kanter A.johnson Booker MCDermott Baker
Knicks A.Gordon Biyombo Fournier Cabarrot Ross
Sixers get Fournier Thomas Hernangomez
Jazz replacement for Hayward
Hardaway O'Quinn for Johnson Favors
Ntilikina/Burks/Jack
Lee/Dotson/Ross
Gordon/Caborrot/Johnson
Porzingis/Beasley/Thomas
Favors/Biyombo/Noah
05 Feb 2018 21:14:07
How could the Sixers and Knicks both receive Fournier?
05 Feb 2018 21:51:58
Why would they give up Gordon without getting anything of much value back. I can see them giving up anyone else for some smaller assets (other than Isaac), but Gordon looks like he could be an allstar in the not so distant future. They would need a pretty good haul for him.
07 Feb 2018 01:44:38
Salary dump for expiring contract usually what happens in fire sale. Obviously Sixers get Fournier chiptooth.