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15 Mar 2017 05:10:49
Suns get
G.Hill Porzingis Hernangomez Noah
Rockets get
Len 5yr 65mil
Knicks get
Bledsoe Beverly Chandler 3rd pick
Utah get
Knight

Jazz could not afford max deal for both Hill and Heyward

Knight/Exum/Neto
Hood/Burks/Ferguson-27th
Heyward/Johnson/Blossomgame-38
Lyles/Diaw/Bolomboy
Gobert/Favors/Withey

Suns have the team of the future

Hill/Ulis/Simmons-49th
Booker/Hart-33rd/Barbosa
Warren/Dudley/Jones
Chriss/Bender/Kaba-58th
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Noah

Rockets need active post center
Gordon/Livingston/Evans-41
Harden/Lou-Will/Booker-45
Ariza/Dekker/Williams
Andersen/Harrell/Wiltjer
Capela/Len/Anuaka

Knicks go defensive minded.
Bledsoe/Beverly/Randle
Lee/Jackson-3rd/Baker
Thomas/Batum-6th/Kuzminskas
Melo/O'Quinn/Inglis
Chandler/Plumlee/T.Bryant-47th

15 Mar 2017 05:51:21
Hill>>> Knight
Beverly>>>Len

15 Mar 2017 11:48:05
Why can't Utah afford to pay Hill and Hayward? They have both their Bird rights so cap space isn't an issue. The only thing that may likely come into play would be luxury tax but I assume they wouldn't have traded for Hill in the first place had they been fearful of this. They also could move some salaries to make way for them. Getting Knight for Hill is a significant downgrade for a team that has been in search of a pg for awhile. Hill has played very well the only issue has been nagging injuries.

Great trade for the Suns with Hill and Bledsoe being about the same, Porzingis being a proven future star, Hernangomez looks like a solid propspect, Noah's contract only a few years longer than Chandlers and Suns get out of potentially having to pay Len.

Trade is fairly bad for the Knicks. They'd be foolish to deal Porzingis as he is better than anyone they are getting in return already and nearly as young as any rookies. I don't think Knicks could ever be considered a defensive team when their best player Melo plays very little defense. Also, Phil after his experiment with Drose is unlikely to get an above average pg to run the triangle since it isn't really necessary as the point guard doesn't play a major role.

10 Mar 2017 11:33:30
Boston: Favors, Utah 2018 1st rounder, Charlotte 2018 1st rounder
Charlotte: Thomas, Lyles
Utah: Walker, Crowder

Boston signs Hayward 4 year max, Iguadala or Reddick 2 year 30 mil, McAdoo 3 year 10 mil, re sign Jerebko 2 year 10 mil, draft Fultz.

Charlotte signs Mirotic 3 year 33 mil, re sign Roberts 2 year 5 mil, draft Bridges.

Jazz losses Hill and Hayward, sign Z-Bo 2 year 30 mil, sign Sefolosha 2 year 20 mil, re sign Ingles 3 year 20 mil, draft Lydon or Hartenstein.

Boston
Fultz/Smart/Rozier
Bradley/Iguodala or Reddick/Young
Hayward/Brown/McAdoo
Favors/Yabusele/Jerebko
Horford/Zizic/T.Zeller

Charlotte
Thomas/Sessions/Roberts
Batum/Bellineli/Graham
MKG/Lamb/Bridges
Williams/Mirotic/Lyles
C. Zeller/Kaminsky/Plumlee

Utah
Walker/Exum/Mack
Hood/Burks/Ingles
Crowder/Sefolosha/Johnson
Z-Bo/Lydon or Hartenstein/Diaw
Gobert/Withey/Bolomboy

10 Mar 2017 11:44:50
I'm not sure Utah would trade Favors to Boston if they sign Hayward. That Utah pick could become a high lottery pick, if they lose Hayward, Lyles and Favors

I'm confused about Charlotte. Walker is an all star now and he's younger then IT.

10 Mar 2017 13:22:30
Not sure why Boston would do this.
I'm not a huge fan of Thomas, but he's worth far more than Favors. And Danny Ainge leaves first-round draft picks for dinner tips. The last thing they need is more draft picks.

10 Mar 2017 17:24:43
I also thought about this one: Utah sends Hayward ( sign and trade ) and Gobert for Thomas, Crowder, Rozier, Brooklyn 2018 1st rounder, Memphis 2019 1st rounder and 2017 2nd rounders from Cavs and Clippers.

10 Mar 2017 17:51:16
I'd be ok with a trade between The C's and the Hornets
IT and Rozier, 18 Bos pick, 19 LAC pick for Walker and Kaminsky.

10 Mar 2017 18:04:35
How does utah get the 2nd and 3rd best player/ asset and only give up favors lyles and a first?

08 Mar 2017 17:56:29
Clippers blow it all up

Clips get - Crowder, Zeller and 18 Bkl 1st

C's get - Jordan

Thomas - Bradley - Hayward or Brown - Horford - Jordan

Clips get - Rubio, Dieng, and Min 17 1st

Wolves get - Griffin (s&t)

Dunn - Lavine(Bazz) Wiggins - Griffin - KAT

Clips get - Lyles, Johnson, and Uth 17 1st

Jazz get - Cp3 (s&t)

CP3 - Hood - Hayward - Favors - Gobert

Clips draft Frank Ntilikia and Jarrett Allen
2018 draft Michael Porter

Rubio - Rivers
Ntilikia - FA
Porter - Crowder
Lyles - B.Johnson
Dieng - Allen

08 Mar 2017 18:21:44
I don't think Clippers would do any of those trades but I think they get less believable as you go down the post. That team at the end isn't all that exciting and although young I don't think has too much upside. Besides Clippers have dealt away a bunch of their draft picks so a hard reset wouldn't give them any great draft picks and Doc wouldn't want to go this route.

I like the fit of the Clippers with their new teams but I can't believe Twolves and Jazz are able to get stars without giving up any significant pieces.

08 Mar 2017 18:52:44
Why would Wolves do a sign and trade for Griffin when they will have the cap space to sign him outright?

08 Mar 2017 19:56:23
Carl. Griffin would not even think about going to the Wolves as a FA first off, but if he were to then as a S/ T he can get more money per year and longer in years rather than just signing as a FA with Minny.

08 Mar 2017 20:26:18
If Blake wouldn't consider going to minny, a few extra dollars isn't going to tip the scale. Neither of the S&T make any sense, you simply never get that kind of return in a S&T. Maybe a pick for the player straight up, but that's about it.

09 Mar 2017 00:53:54
Any of the 2 S/ T could benefit LAC, they'd get compensation, but only if a deal could be made, and the player (s) or teams want to move on from one another. Between 2017/ 18 and 2020/ 21 the cap will go to 114 million so max deals might be getting more scarce, as you need to have space to fill the roster.

07 Mar 2017 18:32:02
What should Indy do with Paul George?

The best offer we get for for him during the trade deadline was
1) M Smart+ 1rnd pick Nets
2) Gallinari+ Mudiay+Murray
3) Ingram+ players

I believe he would stay if we can sign another star. The only good free agent that could come is propably G Hayward. So we should offer him a max contract, hoping Utah wouldn't match it.

Otherwise we should trade him for the Nets pick (Fullz or Ball) or for Ingram and start rebuilding, before he signs in free agency for the Spurs.

07 Mar 2017 19:05:35
I on't think he'll sign with the spurs, he said he'll sign with the Lakers most likely... so knowing that why would they give up Ingram if they know they'll get George in a year. I think Lakers should keep Ingram Russell and randle, hope for a top 2 this year (draft ball) then suck nuts again next year (not sure if the have any conditions on their pick, I'd assume there are some that would carry over if they keep their pick this year, but don't know for sure) and draft another young stud. Then sign George.

Ball
Russell
George
Randle
Ayton
6th Ingram
7th Clarkson
8th Nance

Looks good to be a Lakers fan then... however, I'm still not sure about the 18' pick

07 Mar 2017 19:27:43
I'm pretty positive Utah can't match an offer for Hayward, however they can offer more money than any other team.

07 Mar 2017 20:10:51
i'm pritty sure he won't sign for LA, if he can go to the Spurs
P George wants to win. The Lakers have a talented roster, but they're not going to win.

The Spurs Roster will be great
C:Dedmon
PF: LM Aldridge
SF: P George
SG:K Leonard
PG: Mills
Bench: Green/ Murray/ Anderson.

07 Mar 2017 22:09:26
Indy is in a tough place and their best hope at this point is that George somehow makes an all-nba team so they can throw 200+ mill at him and hope that will keep him there. They don't have too many assets to make a big move with and would be alright but Teague and especially Ellis have been underwhelming. With Turner already in hand I think their best bet is to try and move him and I think Lakers and Celtics make the most sense for them.

Do they have enough cap space to get a Hayward type player? They also need to address pg with Teague being a FA (not sure if they have his Bird Rights) . I don't think they'll ultimately be able to bring in the talent needed to get them into title contention (where George wants to be) .

Spurs wouldn't be a bad landing spot for George to compete but Lakers are the perfect spot for him. Rumor has it he wants to return home to California. Lakers could sign him in FA and not have to give up any assets to get him. Their young core probably won't be ready to compete by then but you can bet that if George is interested in coming to LA they'd be willing to make necessary trades to welcome him. Ideally they'd use future draft picks to move their bad contracts and sign another superstar then take advantage of guys on their rookie deals and their Bird Rights to maintain a team that can contend for awhile.

Additionally, Westbrook will potentially be a FA that summer and previously displayed some interest in going to LA. He looks like he is shaping up to be in a similar situation to George where he has a solid playoff team but don't have pieces or financial flexibility to turn themselves into a true contender.

With Magic in charge of basketball operations now you can be sure he'd be willing to wheel and deal to get Lakers this star power to return them to their former glory. Lakers may not be a contender right now but have plenty of young assets to deal and if they can offload Mozgov and Deng's contracts would have necessary cap space to give two max contracts.

07 Mar 2017 22:29:50
That middle of Leonard, George, and Aldridge would be maybe the best 2-3-4 combo in NBA history.

03 Mar 2017 12:54:17
1) Boston- Utah
Boston: D Favors
Utah: C Zeller+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19 and Clippers 19

2) Boston-Chicago
Boston: J Butler
Chicago: J Brown+ Bradley+Rozier+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 2020



Boston:
draft Fulzz
sign K Durant
resign: Jerebko and A Johnson

C:Favors/ A Johnson
PF: Horford/ Jerebko
SF: K Durant/ Crowder
Sg: J Butler/ M Smart
Pg: I thomas/ Fullz

03 Mar 2017 14:09:47
T. Zeller**.

03 Mar 2017 17:16:45
How would any of that work with money.

03 Mar 2017 18:53:34
it did work on the trademachine
And boston is going to have 44 million in capspace.

03 Mar 2017 19:28:28
They would not have 44 million in Cap space by adding Favors. Zeller has an expiring contract, but by trading for Favors, that adds an extra 12 million on the books for next year. The Butler trade essentially keeps money the same. Fultz would have a 7 million dollar cap hold as well. Celtics would likely have about 20 million in cap space, which is not enough to sign Kevin Durant.

04 Mar 2017 10:28:28
Zeller has a contract for one more year, so i think Boston has 30 M left for signing KD.

03 Mar 2017 03:15:01
NBA Trade Machine Approved
OKC Off Season Plans

Boston / Utah / Oklahoma City

Boston let's Amir Johnson walks

Utah buy out Joe Johnson's contract

Oklahoma City let loose Roberson, Collison, and Gibson too. OKC saves 14 Million ... Boston 12 Million.

Hold your Breath / Blockbuster Trade in the works

Boston gets Westbrook, Kanter, and Hayward from Utah.

Utah gets Crowder from Boston and Singler from OKC.

Oklahoma City gets Horford and Thomas from Boston

Boston add Plus 14 Wins
Utah lost 7 Wins
Oklahoma City lost 1 Win

Utah gets 2018 Nets 1st Round Pick and 2017 Clippers 2nd Round pick too.

Oklahoma City gets 2018 Celtics first Round Pick.

OKC dumps Kanter and Singler Bad Contracts

Boston can use the 12 Million to boost Hayward's Contract.

The 14 Million that OKC saves can get them a free agent that they can use right away

Workable Yes, maybe not so logical at all.

03 Mar 2017 04:36:58
Hayward would have to be a s/ t. Doubtful, Boston could get him in FA
Boston would want Adams instead of Kanter and OKC would want Crowder plus 17 And 18 Nets picks plus IT4 to get rid of Russ. And The Kitchen sink.

If I'm DA, I'd make the deal.

03 Mar 2017 18:17:49
To get Westbrook, it would take Horford, IT, Bradley, and both Nets picks.

02 Mar 2017 15:30:24
Indy - Utah


Indy: Favors

Utah: a Jefferson+ 1rnd pick 2017

Indy:
Need a defender and rebounder

Utah:
Jefferson could be a good benchplayer for them and the draft pick gives them another chance to develop a young talent.

Favors is better and younger then Jefferson, but his stock is low and the scenario works for Utah.

27 Feb 2017 19:01:02
Suns offseason

Trade Bledsoe to Jazz for Burks and 2017 1st

Trade Knight and Dudley to Suns for Parsons and Baldwin

- I know Parsons is really playing bad with Memphis so maybe a change would help

Draft
1st round
Lonzo Ball PG
Tyler Lydon PF

Ball - Baldwin
Booker - Burks - Barbosa
Parsons - Warren
Chriss - Bender - Lydon
Chandler - Len

27 Feb 2017 21:58:12
Chandler Parsons is trash, he's always hurt and even when he does play it's average quality of play. Him and Noah are the most overpaid players in the league. Suns would be fools to trade for him they should just draft Josh Jackson.

27 Feb 2017 22:47:33
Not sure how interested Jazz would be In Bledsoe since Hill has played very well for them when healthy and they should be favorites to resign him. Don't think Parsons is the type of guy a young team should take a chance on especially cause he'd take minutes away from Warren and has a sizeable contract.

28 Feb 2017 00:19:43
Agree that PHX should move Bledsoe. I also think Utah would not go for this. because they have indicated they want to keep Hill

Suns would say no to a Parsons deal.

01 Mar 2017 23:37:48
I think Bledsoe would be great on the jazz! I have been hearing that Hill is wanting 20-25 mill a year. No way he is worth that at this age and injury history.

26 Feb 2017 19:00:05
Pelicans offseason

Trade #1

Pelicans - Alec Burks

Jazz - Alexei Ajainca, 2 future 2nd round picks

Trade #2

Pelicans - Brandon Knight, TJ Warren

Suns - Solomon Hill, Quincy Pondexter (Waive) 2018 protected pick

Resign holiday, Monteunas, Cunningham, Casspi

Lineup

PG - Holiday - Knight
SG - Burks - Moore
SF - Warren - Casspi
PF - Davis - Cunningham
C - Cousins - Monteunas.

26 Feb 2017 21:08:04
You're crazy. Knight as a backup would be 13.6 mill cap hit. Meaning in two years Davis cousins holiday and knights would be at like 100 mil. So you need 2 starters and 6 bench players for 10-20 million. Destined for failure.

26 Feb 2017 22:02:56
No need for Knight, Frazier can be backup. I also don't think Jazz or Suns do those trades.

27 Feb 2017 01:31:49
Somebody tell burger cap is at 102mil it's OK to spend.

27 Feb 2017 07:45:21
Suns dnt do that trade!

27 Feb 2017 18:17:07
Someone tell shizzee to learn math.

In 2 years, Davis cap is 25.4 million
In 2 years, Cousins cap is what, 28mill?
Knight is 14.6 mill
Holiday is probably around 15 mill.
In 2 years, Hill's cap is 12.2 mill
Asik is 11.2 mill
Moore is 8.8 mill
Ajinca is 5.6 mill

Them 8 have you at over 120 million. You need 4 more players, at minimum contracts. Leaving you. a shallow and awful team.

Learn math shizze.

25 Feb 2017 16:16:42
suns gets stanley johnson andre drummond
piston gets derrick favors joe johnson 1td 2017 suns alex len
jazz gets elfrid payton tobias harris
magic gets reggie jackson

26 Feb 2017 03:30:54
Rough for DET.

26 Feb 2017 18:10:53
am i missing something here. so the suns give up alex len and one 1st, and get drummond and johnson?

Len. in his 3rd year, averaging what, 7 and 6.for a similarly aged center averaging 15 and 14. Youy wouldn't get drummond for len, this years 1st and prob another 1st. but on top you add johnson?


Get out of here suns fan.

23 Feb 2017 18:10:30
Last second five-team monster trade idea:

Clippers in: E. Mudiay, G. Harris, J. Brown, K. Faried, A. Johnson, T. Zeller, R. Rondo, 2017 Nuggets 1st, 2017 Celtics 1st (with swap rights), and 2018 Nets 1st
Clippers out: C. Paul, B. Griffin, D. Jordan, R. Felton, B. Bass, and A. Anderson

Bulls in: A. Bradley, W. Chandler, D. Favors, R. Felton, B. Diaw 2017 Jazz 1st, and 2017 Warriors 1st
Bulls out: J. Butler, T. Gibson and R. Rondo

Celtics in: J. Butler and D. Jordan
Celtics out: A. Bradley, A. Johnson, T. Zeller, J. Brown, 2017 Celtics 1st (with swap rights), 2018 Nets 1st

Nuggets in: G. Hill, B. Griffin, and A. Anderson
Nuggets out: E. Mudiay, G. Harris, W. Chandler, K. Faried, and 2017 Nuggets 1st

Jazz in: Chris Paul, T. Gibson, and B. Bass
Jazz out: G. Hill, D. Favors, B. Diaw, 2017 Warriors 1st, and 2017 Jazz 1st

23 Feb 2017 18:48:25
Can't follow this.

23 Feb 2017 21:26:58
I stopped reading after 5 team trade.

23 Feb 2017 16:09:51
Jazz/LAC


LAC Griffin

Jazz Favors and Netto

23 Feb 2017 16:06:00
Jazz/LAC


LAC Griffin

Jazz Favors ans Netto

22 Feb 2017 16:11:01
Utah/phi

Phi gets Favors

Utah gets Okafor and TJ McConnell

22 Feb 2017 16:16:36
The value is about right but I don't think favors fits with the sixers. They want to be fast paced. Favors has bad wheels.

22 Feb 2017 07:19:24
JAZZ / SUNS

Utah get B. Knight(12.6) + A. Williams (0.8) = 13.4$

Phoenix get D. Favors (11) + S. Mack (2.4) = 13.4$

22 Feb 2017 14:31:07
Im a suns fan but even i know that doesn't get favors. I can't see why utah would want knight. But maybe len plus tucker, and miami 1st next year.

22 Feb 2017 01:14:25
Cleveland Cavaliers - Chicago Bulls

Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Rights to Cedi Osman

Chicago Bulls trade: Michael Carter Williams

Cleveland finally gets a backup point guard. Chicago gets a decent prospect in return.

Cleveland Cavaliers - Utah Jazz

Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Tristan Thompson, 2021 first round pick, rights to swap first round picks in 2018 and 2020.

Utah Jazz trade: Derrick Favors

Cleveland gets a big that can protect the rim next to Kevin Love. Utah gets Thompson and a few draft picks.

Cleveland roster:
PG: Kyrie Irving / Michael Carter Williams / Kay Felder
SG: Iman Shumpert / J. R. Smith / DeAndre Liggins / Jordan McRae
SF: LeBron James / Richard Jefferson / Kyle Korver / James Jones
PF: Kevin Love / Derrick Williams
C: Derrick Favors / Channing Frye.

22 Feb 2017 02:37:33
Because the east is such a joke cleveland will always be a top 3 team, so why would any team want the right to swap picks? Thise swaps have no value.

22 Feb 2017 05:14:30
Don't like for Cleveland. They can get a MCW caliber pg off the streets (Chalmers or Cole) . After Favors recent knee troubles I'm not sure he is any better than Tristan Thompson and certainly not worth giving up picks and swaps for.

21 Feb 2017 07:21:07
Celtics- Derrick Favors

Jazz- Avery Bradley

21 Feb 2017 11:12:35
Money doesn't work.

21 Feb 2017 11:34:07
Not going to happen.
Hayward for Bradley.

21 Feb 2017 11:59:03
Favors would be a good fit in Boston.

Boston only need another shooter, if they trade Bradley.
Maybe signing Hayward in free agency 😃😃😃.

21 Feb 2017 15:05:34
Supercollider you're as much a joke as your trades. Face it no one wants any celtics players. they've been trying to trade for a star for 2 years, and they can't get anything. Worst part of all is yur nets pick no matter how great is is will not help you guys, because thomas and fultz will not work together.

21 Feb 2017 15:27:30
Why trade Bradley for Hayward, if a Butler trade is in the works and Bradley isn't in the trade along with Crowder they would need him for a year till next trade deadline is here.

And Favors has taken a few steps back this year in every department. So no on that deal.

There's no need for Bulls to trade Butler yet, They might just wait till next years draft is here. Or PG13 for that matter.

21 Feb 2017 17:16:49
Skills. Thomas and Fultz would likely become one of the best backcourts in the NBA. How can you say they will not work together?

21 Feb 2017 05:18:53
Detroit get Deron Williams, D.J. Augustin

Orlando get Reggie Jackson, Dorian Finney-Smith

Dallas get Mario Hezonja, 2017 Clippers 1ST round pick


Mavs get Derrick Favors

Utah get Andrew Bogut, Devin Harris, 2017 Clippers 1ST round pick , 2017 mavs 2nd rounder pick

21 Feb 2017 05:42:23
Detroit is getting fleeced in first deal, they can get a better offer dealing directly with Orlando. Mavs offer nothing worth getting Hezonja and a first rounder for.

In the second deal I think Favors should be on a lot of teams radars as a good center that is still relatively young. He hasn't been himself this year due to nagging knee injuries but he should be the type of bargain steal a team with little talent like the Mavs should gamble on. However, I think it would take more than that for the Jazz to unload him.

21 Feb 2017 04:57:28
Detroit get Deron Williams, D.J. Augustin

Orlando get Reggie Jackson, Dorian Finney-Smith

Dallas get Mario Hezonja, 2017 Clippers 1ST round pick



second trade

Mavs get Derrick Favors

Utah get Andrew Bogut, Devin Harris, 2017 Clippers 1ST round pick , 2017 mavs 2nd rounder pick

21 Feb 2017 04:34:30
Mavs get Derrick Favors

Utah get Andrew Bogut, Devin Harris, 2017 mavs 2nd rounder pick

21 Feb 2017 04:49:43
I'd like to see Utah get Griffin, Millsap, or Gallinari. It would've been nice to see Ibaka or Cousins as well.

21 Feb 2017 07:11:12
Mavs would be lucky to get noah with that offer lmao.

 
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