Utah Jazz Rumours

21 Jun 2017 17:26:43
LA Lakers crazy Offseason


•Trade: Lakers-Pacers-Suns-Jazz

-LAKERS get Paul George, #4 pick (via PHO), #52 pick (via PHO), and a 2018 2nd (via IND)
-PACERS get Dante Exum, Jared Dudley, #27 and #28 picks (via LAL), and Miami 2018 1st (via PHO)
-SUNS get #2 pick (via LAL), Luol Deng, and Derrick Favors
-JAZZ get Eric Bledsoe

•Trade: Lakers-Celtics-Knicks

-LAKERS get Avery Bradley
-CELTICS get Kristaps Porzingis
-KNICKS get Julius Randle, #3 pick, Boston 2018 1st, Lakers 2018 1st (or Kings 2019 1st via BOS), and a 2019 2nd (via BOS)

•Draft De'Aaron Fox

•Free Agency:
-Re-sign Nick Young 1yr 13m
-Sign Terrence Jones 1yr 5m

Lineup:
PG: Fox, Clarkson, Nwaba
SG: Bradley, Young
SF: George, Ingram, Brewer
PF: Nance, Jones
C: Lopez, Zubac, Black

Then they still should have cap room for another all star in 2018.

21 Jun 2017 15:05:03
Paul Milsap sign and trade
Hawks trade
Paul Milsap, Future protected CLE pick

Jazz trade
Derrick Favors, Dante Exum, Alec Burks
both late 2017 picks.

21 Jun 2017 17:07:00
Sign and trades never get you that kind of return.

20 Jun 2017 06:01:01
UTA/CLE/IND

UTA get Kevin Love
resign Gordon Hayward & George Hill

Pg Hill/Exum
Sg Hood/Johnson
Sf Hayward/Ingles
Pf Love/Lyles
Ce Gobert/Diaw

CLE get Paul George & Monta Ellis

Pg Irving/Ellis
Sg Smith/Korver
Sf George/Williams
Pf James/Frye
Ce Thompson/Bogut (sign)

IND get Iman Shumpert , Alec Burks , Derrick Favors , UTA 1st (#24) & future 1st round pick from CLE

Pg Teague/Young
Sg Burks/GR3
Sf Shumpert/Niang
Pf Turner/Young
Ce Favors/Jefferson

20 Jun 2017 22:27:25
Looks like a win win win. If Utah can resign Hayward and Hill.

19 Jun 2017 23:01:58
Suns-Lakers-Jazz

Suns get #2 pick, Derrick Favors, and Timofey Mozgov

Lakers get #4 pick, Tyson Chandler, and Jazz 2018 1st (top 10 protected)

Jazz get Eric Bledsoe.

20 Jun 2017 02:08:52
Depends how much Hill wants to resign, Bledsoe could potentially be a cheaper option. If I were the Lakers I'd prefer to keep it simple and do Deng and #2 for #4. I don't see Chandler playing at a high level too much longer and Lakers should be aiming to clear cap space for next offseason so they can not only sign George but possibly bring in some assistance that can help fill out the team.

Not biggest fan of it for the Suns. I think they should deal Bledsoe in a separate trade .

19 Jun 2017 21:41:23
SIMPLE TRADE

Utah: Alexis Ajinca
New Orleans: Alec Burks, Number 55

Utah eat their backup big while giving both first rounders position to make the team.
New Orleans gets help on the wing and another's pick which they desperately need

18 Jun 2017 14:06:57
Jazz Off-Season

- let Mack walk
- Raptors GM Masai Ujiri is known for making smart deals, so before losing Lowry for nothing make a s&t deal:
Jazz trade Exum, Burks, 30th pick
Raptors trade Lowry(s&t)

- resign Hayward, Hill, Ingles and Withey

roster:
Lowry/Hill/Neto
Hood/Ingles/Hill
Hayward/J.Johnson/Ingles
Favors/Lyles/#24
Gobert/Diaw/Withey
- very deep and talented roster, boost their playmaking with Lowry and be able to retain the core around Hayward, Hill and Ingles (with Hill and Ingles leading, both, the bench mob)
- in 2018 Diaw's and Johnson's contracts ends -> resign Hood
- #24 pick select best available PF/C like Hartenstein, Rabb, Bell
- Jazz will be a nightmare opponent on every given night

18 Jun 2017 14:26:35
No need to bring back Hill to be a backup.

15 Jun 2017 23:33:09
What is it going to take for a trade from the suns for point guard Bledsoe?

Jazz give: Favors, Both 2017 1st rounders

Is that enough?
I like Bledsoe so much better then Hill! Heck I would even rather have Rubio.

15 Jun 2017 23:47:44
Too much for Bledsoe.

14 Jun 2017 22:40:23
Jazz - Knicks - Magic

Jazz gets:
O'Quinn
44th (Bulls via Knicks)
58th (Rockets via Knicks)

Knicks gets:
Biyombo

Magic gets:
Noah
24th pick (Jazz)


Utah have 2 first round picks and trade one of them for a backup Center and two 2nd round pick (draft and stash)

Knicks get a young backup center that will help them protect the paint.

Magic gets a leader in Noah that played for Florida in college and a late 1st to rebuild with.

15 Jun 2017 23:30:46
Why would the jazz want two second round picks when they already have two!? Makes no sense!

14 Jun 2017 16:29:49
IF YOU CAN MAKE THE SPLASH IN FA. ITS BEST CASE SENARIO WITHOUT BLOWING UP THE BIG 3
4trade team deal sign and trade
Cavs get Hayward
Jazz get W Chandler plus something like a pick (lets say one or two second rounders)
Nuggets getT Thompson plus 2ndround pick/youngplayer from nets
Nets get Shumpert

Makes sense for nuggets because they get a quality center who can cover up for jokic deficiencies and nets get a good player for nothing. Nuggets can later trade plumlee and nets shumpert to other teams

With that trade cavs have saved 28 million. let's say they give hayward around 20-22 mill. If they add the MLE and Lebron gets a paycut they have around 10-12 million to spend for a quality center. Now Paul Millsap would be a reach but I believe Serge Freaking IBAKA would sign with the cavs. Alternative options are Dedmon of spurs and Amir Johnson Taj Gibson and Andrew Bogut.

Then use bird rights to resign Korver . Resign Frye. Offer minimums to NENE (he is a ring chaser and took a minimum to play for houston) Speights (knows warriors philosophy) beno udrih/jose calderon

Depht Chart
PG Irving/Udrih/D Will
SG (Hayward)/Korver/JR Smirh
SF LeBron/ (Hayward)/Jefferson
PF Love/ Frye
C Ibaka(or any of the other mentioned)/Speights/Nene

14 Jun 2017 16:53:57
Why does Utah, Brooklyn, or Denver do this?

14 Jun 2017 17:27:48
Get your head down and read why it makes sense. Why doesn't it?

14 Jun 2017 17:28:11
Why doesn't it make sense I mean.

14 Jun 2017 18:11:35
None of those teams outside of Cleveland would even consider it, especially Utah.

14 Jun 2017 18:24:22
Hayward is not going to sign a contract for 20-22 million especially on a S&T.

12 Jun 2017 23:16:13
Pelicans offseason

TRADE:
Solomon Hill, and 2021 1st rounder (lottery protected) for Stauskas.

Alexis Ajinca for #55 (Jazz).

SIGN:
Bojan Bogdanovic 4 year 45 million (starting with 10 million).
Shelvin Mack 2 year 12 million.
Marreese Speights 3 year 25 million.
Reggie Bullock 3 year 8 million.

LINEUP

Mack/Frazier/Cook
Crawford/Stauskas/Moore
Bogdanovic/Pondexter/Bullock
Davis/Diallo/#55(Bolden)
Cousins/Speights/Asik

76ers can afford Hill's contract, it will be off the books by the time Simmons, Saric and TLC hit free agency.
Utah needs backup center and Ajinca is great for backing Gobert up.
Mack is a starting PG only for his defense, because offense will be run by Cousins and Davis.
Whats more important Pels are below the cap with this line up.

Thoughts???

13 Jun 2017 03:28:00
Why would anyone give a future first for stauskas.? I don't care if its 1-29 protected.

13 Jun 2017 11:18:39
The pick is to dump Hill's $12m salary, Stauskas is just a throw in.

Doubtful Sixers take on that money for a pick in 4 years.

12 Jun 2017 18:41:47
Pelicans offseason

As much as Pels fans love him it may be better to let Jrue leave and spend money on multiple players for depth

Trade

Pels - Alex Burks SG

Utah - Alexei Ajianca C, future 2nd round

Utah needs a back up C (Withey is FA) while saving money on the cap and New Orleans gets a quality SG

Sign

Patty Mills 3 yr 50 mill
Kyle Korver 3 yr 24 mil

Lineup

PG - Mills - Frazier
SG - Burks - Moore
SF - Hill - Korver
PF - Davis - Diallo
C - Cousins - Asik

Mills is a solid PG option with cousins and AD running the team and hit the 3.

12 Jun 2017 22:17:35
Pelicans certainly need more help than Jrue Holiday can supply and they have major depth issues. The problem is they don't have much cap space or trade assets to improve talent-wise. They only have about 11 mill in cap space if they were to renounce the rights to their free agents. The mid-level non tax player exception is expected to be around 8.4 million and bi-annual exception starting at 3 mill so Pelicans wouldn't be much worse off just keeping Holiday. For the long term implications I could understand not wanting to commit that much money to Holiday who has a long injury history and is likely going to be grossly overpaid.

12 Jun 2017 22:18:59
Only problem I really see is that they need someone who will be able to facilitate. Holiday is a great passer and they won't have anyone on that roster that will be able to set up Davis and Cousins like Holiday would be able to.

Mills is a great addition but he isn't a point guard that is great at running offenses. He can shoot and the Pelicans definitely need that around two bigs but they also need a point guard.

I think that since they have Holiday's bird rights they will be better trying to sign other players and then resign Holiday using those bird rights.

12 Jun 2017 22:19:39
Problem is Jrue leaving does not clear up a lot of cap space.

10 Jun 2017 02:55:54
JAZZ 2017-2018

trade
favors/ neto/ 2rd rd pick for rubio
exum/ alec burks for okafor
diaw/ 1st rd pick for mia- josh richardson
joe johnson for den- barton


sign
hayward
millsap
also sign cheap contract
daron williams
korver
jeff green

line up
pg. rubio/ williams/
sg. hood/ kover/ richardson
sf. hayward/ green/ barton
pf. millsap/ lyles
c. gobert/ okafor.

10 Jun 2017 15:29:46
Yeah maybe they can get Carlos boozer out of retirement for a jazz reunion too.

07 Jun 2017 17:57:35
If Hayward bolts for Boston who will fill that slot? Without him this coming season they'll struggle to get to the playoffs without a good replacement..

Could Boston entice Utah into trading Gobert for the #1 pick, Crowder, Bradley, 2018 Boston pick and a couple of 17 2nd rder's?

07 Jun 2017 18:02:22
Maybe replace the 2018 pick with the nets pick. They still might not do it, but that's probably the price that would have to be paid. And I think it would be worth it for Boston.

07 Jun 2017 20:38:42
I mean Jazz won't have certainly have anyone of Haywards caliber but if they resign Hill they still have Rodney Hood, Joe Johnson, Joe Ingles and Alec Burks on the wings which isn't terrible.

It would be interesting to see what they did if he left tho. Gobert is relatively young at 25 but he is their only difference maker so it would probably make sense to deal him for younger talent.

07 Jun 2017 23:43:58
Fultz for gobert.

08 Jun 2017 04:57:14
Fultz isn't enough alone for Gobert. Gobert is a beast and young.

09 Jun 2017 08:08:14
Idk #1 pick can get u a superstar, not sure Gobert is in that category yet. I'd rather have the #1 pick. He's not better than M Gasol or Cousins who are probably the only 2 centers I wouldn't do a straight up trade for to acquire the top pick.

01 Jun 2017 17:25:46
If Hayward decides to stay with Utah the Celtics will only have a few options..

Sign Gallinari 4/80+
Trade for Melo 2/50+
Trade for Butler 2/38+

Which of the 3 will be a better pick up ??

Lots of ???

What about a center??

01 Jun 2017 18:01:13
melo for thomas.

01 Jun 2017 18:16:37
It may come down to that if Haywards stays in Utah. but what about a center?

Drummond?

Vucevic?

Boogie?

01 Jun 2017 18:17:04
Trade for Butler, including Crowder in the deal.
Gallinari is break glass in case of emergency, and Anthony is not an option.
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But before any of that . . .
Shake the tree down in New Orleans, and if the Pels want to roll with both the Unibrow and Boogie this year, see what the Pacers are up to with George. Then Butler.
While all this is going on, see what the Magic want for Vucevic. Whiteside is probably off the table (at his age Riley is not interested in a rebuild), but you might be able to pry away Randolph from the Grizz if for no other reason than to buy time until they can get a legit big.

01 Jun 2017 18:18:25
Trader Danny also said he's willing to trade down.

01 Jun 2017 18:19:49
Butler should have been their target all along.

01 Jun 2017 21:34:26
Butler would have to be at the right price and the #1 pick would not be in that deal.

01 Jun 2017 21:38:22
I think Hayward should be Celtics #1 option since if they shed a little money they can add him using cap space and keep #1 pick and he isn't that far below Butler or George. If Celtics don't get him I think they should pursue Butler, George, Melo, Gallinari in that order. Butler over George due to contract situation and rumors of George wanting to go to Lakers. Melo over Gallinari since Melo won't take that much to get and only has a few years left on deal while Gallinari has struggled to stay healthy so I'd be wary giving him a fat and long contract.

Butler and George's relatively cheap contracts also allow Celtics to pursue a big that would make more money. A big probably should be Celtics first priority now that I think of it. I don't think they are interested in Cousins or they'd already have him but Drummond and Jordan in that order would be great additions and would turn their rebounding weakness into a strength.

01 Jun 2017 21:57:00
the C's need a big and a primary scoring wing. Gallo is a nice player, but he's neither. Melo could be the scorer, but I think Butler's the best fit of the three.

I do think targeting a Drummond or Jordan also makes sense.

02 Jun 2017 00:47:34
Jaw, I really don't think the C's should even think about George because all indications lead to him going to LA. And he won't be dealt before the deadline, unless it's to LA. But other than that I agree on your order of importance.

I'd be happy if they didn't sign any player and just made trades to get Butler and Drummond and draft Fultz. But if we did sign someone I think Gallinari would be good for a couple of reasons. He gets to the line a lot and is a 90% FT shooter and his size would be of importance if he can learn to get more boards and he can shoot 3's almost as good as Hayward. And he can be had for less than GH if he wants to win, if he is more interested in the money than chances are he'll never get to the finals and by all means go for the $$.

29 May 2017 01:54:46
Jazz-Nuggets-Celtics

Jazz acquire Gallinari , Bradley

Hill/Exum
Bradley/Burks
Ingles/Johnson
Gallinari/Lyles
Gobert/Diaw

Nuggets acquire Favors

Mudiay/Nelson
Murray/Harris
Chandler/Barton
Favors/Hernangomez
Jokic/Plumlee

Celtics acquire Hayward (st) , Faried

Thomas/Rozier
Hayward/Smart
Crowder/Brown
Faried/Olynyk
Horford/Zeller

29 May 2017 08:36:58
The C's get the guy they want but lose someone that will have more value than Faried to get a Big.

Chances are Gallinari is opting out.

Favors has a lot to prove next season after having a disastrous season and is working for a contract. I could see him being a TD deal if he bounces back.

28 May 2017 14:41:27
Wolves Off-season

- keep flexibility to keep core of Towns(FA 2019), Wiggins(FA 2018), LaVine(FA 2018)
- keep the pick and select best avaible talent: Isaac, Smith, Monk

Trade:
Wolves trade Rubio
Jazz trade Burks, future 2nd round pick
(Jazz will not overpay for 31y old G.Hill, because they need to resign Hayward 2017, Ingles 2017, Hood 2018, Exum 2018, Favors 2018)

- let Muhammad, Hill walk = create cap space and flexibility
- sign Rose to 3y 45m
- resign Rush, Casspi to 1y deals

Wolves:
Dunn/Rose/Jones
LaVine/Burks/Rush
Wiggins/Rush/Casspi
Dieng/Bjelica/Payne
Towns/Aldrich/Pekovic

- keep developing young core

28 May 2017 15:36:41
Well with the way you have it, the Twolves should draft Isaac.

28 May 2017 16:27:43
Dunn is not ready to start and why would Minnesota pay more money for a lesser PG in Rose?

Any GM who gives Rose that kind of contract should be fired.

30 May 2017 03:52:12
Jazz fan: Yes please! We would give you 1st rounder #31 but a second rounder is cool.

26 May 2017 07:50:08
Jazz-Nets

Jazz - Diaw , Burks , 1st 2017

Nets - Hollis-Jefferson , 2nd 2018

26 May 2017 19:27:35
I assume Jazz are doing this to clear cap space in order to sign a FA like Millsap in addition to Hayward and Hill. Jazz should send Favors back to Nets too so they can clear more salary and Nets get another piece that is still relatively young and when healthy a very good player.

25 May 2017 18:40:24
Jazz Re-sign Gordon Hayward and George Hill
Release Boris Diaw and Shelvin Mack
Trade Derrick Favors for future draft picks
Sign Paul Milsap

They free up money for Milsap by parting ways with Diaw, Mack and Favor.

25 May 2017 21:57:49
Jazz wozkd have to get rid of Burks also if they want to sign Millsap.

26 May 2017 03:09:19
I like the fit of Millsap back in Utah alongside Gobert as his skill set would be a much better compliment than Favors. Only issue is the salary this would require. Releasing Diaw and Mack and dealing Favors for picks won't free up enough cap space to sign Hill and Millsap (they can use Hayward's Bird rights to sign him while over the cap) . Big contracts Jazz could move to make it work would be Burks or Joe Johnson's.

24 May 2017 16:36:12
sas -- jazz

aldrige --favors, burks.

22 May 2017 23:55:08
I heard Paul George have interest in play with Gordon Hayward. How Indiana trade Paul George to Utah for Derrick Favors, Dante Exum , 24th pick, 42nd pick and right to 2020 highest 1st round pick between Utah and Oklahoma pick. Resign Hayward using his bird right.

23 May 2017 01:01:21
Its more likely Hayward just signs with Indy (he is from Indy and played college ball there) . Jazz would have to give up much more to get George. They have some solid young pieces like Hood, Lyles in addition to Exum but ultimately Jazz can't compete with what Celtics or Lakers could offer.