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03 Jan 2023 06:14:22
3 teamer to vastly improve each team:
Raptors send: Fred VanVleet, Otto Porter Jr, Gary Trent Jr, top 8 protected 2024 FRP
Raptors receive: Jamal Murray, Jakob Poeltl, Jeff Green
Nuggets send: Jamal Murray, Jeff Green, lottery-protected 2024 FRP
Nuggets receive: Fred VanVleet, Gorgui Dieng, Gary Trent Jr, Otto Porter Jr
Spurs send: Jakob Poeltl and Gorgui Dieng
Spurs receive: 2024 Top-8 Protected FRP from Toronto, 2024 Lottery-Protected FRP from Denver
and yes, I am the person who originally posted this on fanspo, just in case
1.) 03 Jan 2023 15:07:45
Why would Denver do this?
Isn't Murray the best player in this trade?
Denver should get a pick, not giving up one.
2.) 03 Jan 2023 15:10:46
Everything is great for all teams. However, this is not possible, as Denver's first in 2023 is lottery-protected through 2025, and their 2025 pick is protected top 5 through 2027. This means that the Nuggets have no first-round picks they can trade except for 2029/ 2030.
07 Sep 2022 13:25:34
4 Team Trade Idea:
Raptors Receive: SGA, Kenrich
Thunder Receive: Ayton, 4 FRP from Toronto, 1 FRP from Phoenix, Branham, Banton, Tre Jones
Suns Receive: OG, Poeltl
Spurs Receive: GTJ, Flynn
If you found a similar trade on Fanspo that was indeed made by me
1.) 07 Sep 2022 15:10:17
I love SGA (hometown boy) but this is a ridiculous overpay for him. Ujiri and Webster would never trade 4 unprotected 1sts.
2.) 07 Sep 2022 15:26:38
It's not unprotected.
3.) 07 Sep 2022 18:16:09
Literally a trade that I think all teams pass on.
4.) 08 Sep 2022 12:53:55
easy yes from PHX everyone else says no.
5.) 09 Sep 2022 04:46:10
Not sure phoenix wants another wing in OG to go with Bridges, Johnson, Booker while not filling the hole at PF.
09 Sep 2021 11:00:08
Blazers-Sixers-Pistons trade:
Blazers get:
Jerami Grant
Ben Simmons
Sixers get:
CJ McCollum
Hamidou Diallo
2024 FRP Detroit Top 10 protected
2023 FRP Portland Top 5 protected
Pistons get:
Robert Covington
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little
2 second round picks from Portland
Blazers:
They become true contenders with one of the best defensive frontcourts while not losing much defense. CJ's shot creation is more than replaced by Grant and Simmons, and they do not lose a lot of depth. This would be the best Portland team in awhile.
Lillard-Powell-Simmons-Grant-Nurkic with a bench unit of Nance, Mclemore, Snell, and Zeller
Sixers:
They get a young player who averaged double digits in Hamidou Diallo, two firsts, and a very good fit in CJ McCollum. They won't get their superstar, but this return is great for them, and they can use their two first round picks for more depth.
Curry-McCollum-Thybulle-Harris-Embiid with a bench of Maxey, Korkmaz, Green, and Drummond
Pistons:
They get a lot of young talent in return for Grant, and Robert Covington if they wish to be competitive as well. They give up a protected first, but they get two seconds in return, and if they don't make the playoffs, chances are they keep the pick.
Cunningham-Hayes-Bey-Covington-Stewart with a bench of Simons, Little, Lee and Olynyk
1.) 09 Sep 2021 11:15:48
A lot of young talent to Detroit? Where? Lmao why would a rebuilding team trade a 1st round pick and get worse players in return.
2.) 09 Sep 2021 13:00:14
They get two second round picks in return for a pick that will most likely go back to them if they are still rebuilding by then, since it is top 10 protected. By 2024, Detroit could be a contender. Roco can provide 70% of the defense of Grant, and can most likely be swapped for a first. Little has the potential to be as good, if not better than Grant, and Simons averaged great numbers for a 22 year old.
3.) 09 Sep 2021 13:38:49
Nah. Not advisable to trade assets if you are rebuilding unless you are getting huge return. This is a meh return for Detroit, they say no. In fact, they can get more than this for Grant alone.
4.) 09 Sep 2021 14:36:43
Brutally bad trade for the Pistons.
5.) 09 Sep 2021 17:26:17
The value is off, but the framework could be moved around maybe?
Portland gets Simmons and Grant
Phili gets McCollum and RoCo
Detroit gets Simons, Maxey, Little, Portland first
It probably depends on how people see Maxey and Simons. I think Simons on Detroit could break out to being a ~20 ppg scorer.
6.) 09 Sep 2021 19:07:33
Bad thing is all the youth they’re getting will be guards when they already have Cade and Hayes. So 2 will be on bench all times.
7.) 09 Sep 2021 19:39:37
Cade’s 6’8, just make him slide to SF.
And if you’re trading for Simons and Maxey, I’d assume the expectation is that maybe 1 pops and is a starting caliber player.
8.) 10 Sep 2021 02:41:10
i would rather keep Grant and Diallo. they are better than any of the names we would be "trading them for" and if we are just "going young" then why trade a 1st round pick and get 2 second round picks back? whoever made this trade suggestion does not like the Pistons. i cannot smile at you or take you seriously.
14 Aug 2021 12:30:48
Raptors-Pacers trade:
The Raptors currently have a decently competitive squad, but they are lacking in rim protection while having the assets to trade for one.
Myles Turner isn't a good fit for Indiana, so a trade might be beneficial for both sides.
Raptors receive:
Myles Turner
Pacers receive:
Goran Dragic
Chris Boucher
2023 top 10 protected pick
2022 2nd round pick
Raptors:
Get a great rim protector that can stretch the floor. Running a lineup of Barnes/VanVleet/Anunoby/Siakam/Turner might be the best defense in the league.
Pacers:
Get a pick that can potentially be a lottery pick if Raptors decide to rebuild, and get a PG with finals experience, and good instant offense and energy from Boucher.
1.) 14 Aug 2021 12:54:36
So Lowry+Boucher+2 picks for Achiuwa and Turner? not exactly worth it.
2.) 14 Aug 2021 13:59:02
Salaries are a ways off considering Dragic alone makes more than Turner, and Boucher would add another 7M to that. not sure where the numbers will end up once the accounting is done but I don't think Indy will be in position to take on more salary. but there's also a rule against trading a player recently acquired by trade. you can't combine his contract with any other contract until 10 days (normally 2 months, but c.v.) so you couldn't even try to do this deal until late August.
3.) 14 Aug 2021 14:03:09
Wow Darry you really learned something from Fredman.
14 Jul 2021 07:55:02
Jazz-Blazers-Sixers trade idea:
It's a three team trade to benefit all three teams while aiming to improve their chances at title contention.
The Jazz and Blazers will get much better perimeter defense, while the Sixers get more shot creators and more floor spacing.
Jazz get:
Robert Covington
Mattisse Thybulle
Blazers get:
George Hill
Royce O'neale
Ben Simmons
Sixers get:
Bojan Bogdanovic
CJ McCollum
Udoka Azubuike
30th pick from Utah
2022 2nd round from Portland
2025 first pick from Portland
Blazers:
Get a veteran guard off the bench that can give you some offense to make up for it in the loss of CJ McCollum, while getting one of the best defenders in the NBA in Ben Simmons and another defender in Royce O'Neale.
Lillard-Powell-Simmons-O'Neale-Nurkic
Jazz:
They lost primarily due to their lack of perimeter defense, and this trade will significantly improve it. They will have to part with Bojan Bogdanovic, however they have more than enough scoring options and get two true lockdown defenders so it shouldn't matter too much.
Conley-Mitchell-Thybulle-Covington-Gobert
Sixers:
I've heard that they want a lot for Ben Simmons, and they might wait for it, however this trade gives them two excellent scorers in McCollum and Bogdanovic, two first round picks and a second, and a somewhat promising young prospect in Azubuike.
Curry-McCollum-Bogdanovic-Harris-Embiid
1.) 14 Jul 2021 08:14:26
I’m a little skeptical of this leaving the Jazz with Conley and Clarkson as 2/ 3 options. Maybe good enough for regular season.
2.) 14 Jul 2021 08:19:13
Yeah, that might be a problem, they still have Ingles off the bench. 95% of the Jazz defense come from one player, and it could be argued that with two excellent defenders to support Gobert, the Jazz defense might be the best in the league, enough to remove the 15-20 that Bogdanovic gives you daily.
3.) 14 Jul 2021 21:08:47
Jazz don't need to be in this trade. Jazz are fine if healthy. Simmons for McCollum is great trade for both teams.
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14 Sep 2021 05:06:53
On my previous trade idea from the Blazers-Sixers-Pistons, it received a lot of criticism on what Detroit received. So to y'all, how much is Jerami Grant worth? Is it an all-star level return?
1.) 14 Sep 2021 07:18:46
I might not value him as high as some. I don’t see him as a top 3 player on contender. I think it can net you a solid young player and 1st.
2.) 14 Sep 2021 07:43:26
I didn't like it for the Covington swap and trading the protected first.
You don't obstruct you're future by trading a pick, if you trade you're best player.
Covington was a good replacement indeed, but it's better to go in a full rebuilt mode if you trade away you're best.
And Covington would take playing time from Simmons and Little, so he obstruct their development.
It was better to find a third team for Covington and get another 1rnd pick.
3.) 14 Sep 2021 15:08:03
Robert Covington, Anfernee Simons, Nassir Little and 2 second round picks from Portland.
4.) 14 Sep 2021 17:16:23
Thanks for your feedback. So what if I were to send Covington to Philly, and send either Maxey or Thybulle to Detroit, and remove the first that Detroit had to give up? So I guess the framework would be
Detroit:
Simons
Little
Maxey/ Thybulle
2 seconds
First from Philly
Philly:
Covington
CJ
Diallo
First from Portland
Portland:
Grant
Simmons.
03 Jan 2023 06:10:39
this is horrible. OKC not taking that and Precious and a frp >>>>>>>>>>>> bamba.
07 Sep 2022 15:26:38
It's not unprotected.
09 Sep 2021 13:00:14
They get two second round picks in return for a pick that will most likely go back to them if they are still rebuilding by then, since it is top 10 protected. By 2024, Detroit could be a contender. Roco can provide 70% of the defense of Grant, and can most likely be swapped for a first. Little has the potential to be as good, if not better than Grant, and Simons averaged great numbers for a 22 year old.
14 Jul 2021 08:19:13
Yeah, that might be a problem, they still have Ingles off the bench. 95% of the Jazz defense come from one player, and it could be argued that with two excellent defenders to support Gobert, the Jazz defense might be the best in the league, enough to remove the 15-20 that Bogdanovic gives you daily.
18 Jun 2021 23:34:16
If Portland trades away Lillard, it is quite likely they are commiting to a full rebuild, which means that players like McCollum and Nurkic may also be traded. Many teams can make a trade for Dame as well. Here are the best possible players Portland can hope to land:
Boston - Jaylen Brown
Philly - Ben Simmons
Lakers - Probably not happening
Miami - Tyler Herro
New York - RJ Barrett
VanVleet would be a downgrade to Brown and Simmons, but the Blazers can potentially draft players with high potential like Barnes and Kuminga and Moody, something the other teams which are contenders cannot offer.
Lillard defensively could be hidden assuming the Raptors get a good center.
14 Sep 2021 17:16:23
Thanks for your feedback. So what if I were to send Covington to Philly, and send either Maxey or Thybulle to Detroit, and remove the first that Detroit had to give up? So I guess the framework would be
Detroit:
Simons
Little
Maxey/ Thybulle
2 seconds
First from Philly
Philly:
Covington
CJ
Diallo
First from Portland
Portland:
Grant
Simmons.