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30 Nov 2021 23:14:22
Mavericks get Kemba Walker

Knicks get Trey Burke and two second round picks

Mavericks add another shooter and ball-handler to take pressure off Luka, the Knicks create cap space and get draft picks for a guy who doesn't fit their system.




29 Nov 2021 01:14:37
76ers get Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook, and a top 3 protected 2027 first round pick

Lakers get Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris, and Tyrese Maxey

Usually not a fan of trades like this where two teams essentially swap their cores, but I think it makes sense. The 76ers get a twin tower big man duo and a playmaker to feed them, while the Lakers get some much needed defensive help and a rising young scorer.


1.) 29 Nov 2021 12:13:04
i don't think simmons is a good fit with LBJ
They should find a third team for him

Not sure the combo Davis -Emiid would be better than Davis-Cousins, but getting Davis back for Simmons is a winner in this case.

2.) 29 Nov 2021 12:49:56
Simmons-Bron wouldn’t be ideal but it’d be better than Russ-Bron. Ben is more efficient and would more willingly defer to Bron. I think AD-Embiid would be a lot better than AD-Boogie. Boogie was a ball dominant big who had turnover issues and poor defense. Embiid is an efficient two way player.

3.) 29 Nov 2021 14:56:50
Not sold on an Embiid/ AD pairing as neither is efficient outside of the key. And you want to through Westbrook into the mix as well?

4.) 29 Nov 2021 16:12:34
Ben Simmons will not net you Anthony Davis, no matter how hard you try.

5.) 29 Nov 2021 17:09:14
Fredman, Embiid’s 40% from 3 on 3.7 attempts is considered inefficient outside of the key to you?



26 Nov 2021 03:01:40
The Kings want Ben Simmons, but they don't want to give up Fox or Haliburton. Could this deal get the job done?

Kings get Ben Simmons

76ers get Buddy Hield, Marvin Bagley, Davion Mitchell, and a top 3 protected 2022 first round pick

Too much? Not enough? Lmk.


1.) 26 Nov 2021 04:17:46
Seems like exactly what would be needed to get a trade done.

2.) 26 Nov 2021 07:55:52
That's good value (bargain) for Simmons now.
But i also think it's a risky trade for the Kings
Fox and Simmons seems to be a bad match
And Hield would be a great fit with Simmons.

3.) 26 Nov 2021 10:57:04
Simmons fox and a non shooting center isn't a great fit.

4.) 26 Nov 2021 21:00:37
Simmons would probably need to play center and the Kings would need to add a shooting forward for this to work, but there’s simply no way they can get Simmons while keeping Fox, Haliburton, and Buddy. got to give up value to get value.

5.) 26 Nov 2021 23:38:41
They can have Buddy. Its fox Halliburton and Mitchell is what they don't want to give up. Plus, teams are just going to keep waiting Philly out on Simmons.

I think Philly was trying to work a Simmons trade for Grant (Detroit) + Hield. But Detroit doesn't have the pieces to get Hield.



17 Nov 2021 22:38:15
Kings get Brandon Ingram

Pelicans get De'Aron Fox

Kings clear their backcourt jam and get a great forward, while the Pelicans get a more natural complement to Zion.


1.) 17 Nov 2021 23:08:35
I think I’d be rly good for Sac

Pels do this only if it won’t upset Zion. I’d see them trading Lewis or Graham at deadline if this happened.

2.) 18 Nov 2021 00:17:07
i think Zion would benefit from having Fox as his teammate more than he does with Ingram.

3.) 18 Nov 2021 02:05:59
I like this trade.

4.) 18 Nov 2021 02:06:12
I like this trade.

5.) 18 Nov 2021 09:03:26
NO should give a little extra, maybe a late first.

Fox can save the NO franchise and keep Zion happy, sacramento is taking a risk giving up the franchise star.

6.) 18 Nov 2021 09:42:37
How can Fox save NOLA, he didn't even get Sacramento to playin touney? My point is, this deal is equal, no need for extras.

7.) 18 Nov 2021 13:12:09
Gasupo, Fox is struggling to start this season. He’s only shooting 24% from 3. If anything, NOLA is taking a risk by pairing an unimpressive shooter with Zion. BI becomes the new franchise star in Sac, and a lineup of Mitchell/ Haliburton/ BI/ Barnes/ Holmes looks like an upgrade to me. BI’s 40% from 3 would do wonders for their spacing.

8.) 19 Nov 2021 17:55:09
What about Graham?



16 Nov 2021 16:02:59
Celtics get Karl Anthony-Towns and D'Angelo Russell

Timberwolves get Jaylen Brown, Al Horford, Robert Williams, and a first round pick

The Celtics get the big man and playmaker they need; the Timberwolves get a great young wing, a young big, a quality veteran whose contract expires soon, and a first round pick.

PF: Tatum
SF: Richardson
SG: Smart
PG: Dlo

C: Robert Williams
PF: Horford
SF: Brown
SG: Edwards
PG: Beverly


1.) 16 Nov 2021 16:36:56
Twolves fans would riot.

2.) 16 Nov 2021 18:11:10
Good trade. I like it for both teams.

3.) 16 Nov 2021 18:58:35
NBA what should the Celtics include to balance it? The way I see it, Dlo isn’t particularly valuable right now. He’s expensive and inefficient. KAT obviously is valuable but Brown, Williams, and a first is great compensation. I felt like the Celtics should throw in a bit more but wasn’t sure what.

4.) 16 Nov 2021 19:09:43
I think Towns for Brown and 1st is good idea

I don’t think Wolves trade DLo tho and taking Horford who they have no need for. This helps Celtics playmaking but who’s the playmaker for the Wolves now?

Maybe send Williams to a 3rd team for one, add Horford if necessary.

5.) 16 Nov 2021 19:21:10
i like it in a "Celtics fan mentality" kind of way, even though i am not a Celts fan. bottom line is you give up 2 stars and only get 1 back. that kind of math is always bad, no matter how you fluffernut it with low 1st rd picks or 4 2nd rd picks, pick swaps 5 years from now, high ceiling potential who has not done anything, etc. it is still fluffernutting in a trade.

6.) 16 Nov 2021 19:29:38
Celts can throw in Schroeder at least! who is going to be the T-Wolves PG?

7.) 16 Nov 2021 20:47:32
Twolves were hesitant to give DLo for Simmons, just don’t see them giving him up for practically Williams and Horford instead.

8.) 16 Nov 2021 21:27:45
iFroth I’d hardly call Dlo a star. There are a ton of stars in this league if Dlo is one. Beverly is a serviceable point guard but I agree, PG becomes a big need without Dlo. Perhaps Schroeder should be thrown in the mix, I might adjust this trade in the future.

9.) 16 Nov 2021 23:48:43
what i meant is Dlo was always thought highly of wherever he went and is still considered a top 25 PG in the league. he is a good playmaker but should not be your first or second scoring option. i still consider him a fringe star.

10.) 17 Nov 2021 01:26:14
Can consider him all star caliber.

11.) 17 Nov 2021 05:19:31
brown and edwards style of play may be redundant.




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08 Nov 2021 14:18:35
The new Wilson ball is causing shooters across the league to struggle. What if it has the opposite effect on bad shooters? Incoming 40% three point shooting season for Ben Simmons.

Seriously though, what's the point of this new ball? I assume it's just because of money; Wilson probably outbid Spalding to be the NBA's official ball. Is extra money really worth harming your product's quality though? Doesn't seem like a good trade-off to me.

What do you guys think? Personally, I hope the league goes back to Spalding ASAP. I'm a fan of good defense but this isn't even good defense, it's just bad shooting due to an inferior basketball.




03 Nov 2021 20:18:12
Obviously way too early to start discussing season awards, but Tyler Herro is easily the 6th man of the year so far. Although he's clearly outplaying Duncan Robinson, he will likely continue to come off the bench as the second unit's leading scorer.

If Herro keeps this up, he should run away with 6MOTY. His bench production gives the Heat a real chance at getting back to the finals.


1.) 03 Nov 2021 22:01:14
Apparently, he set an NBA record for most point by a reserve through the first 7 games. Just found this out.

2.) 03 Nov 2021 22:03:41
I have a hard time believing he continues to come off the bench. It’s not hard to stagger minutes to let him continue to play with the second unit. But the respect of being a starter is a real thing in the NBA.

3.) 03 Nov 2021 22:28:35
I tried to mention few months back he would bounce back. Lot of people had his trade value way too low. Even tho he average 15/ 5/ 3.

4.) 03 Nov 2021 23:04:33
I don't know if anyone will agree but I see Herro being better than Devin Booker (bold) . That kid has a killer instinct and not afraid of any moment.

5.) 03 Nov 2021 23:12:09
Bmiller it wouldn't really surprise me either way, but my bet is that he continues to come off the bench. Robinson wouldn't be as effective coming off the bench (considering that he's a catch-and-shoot specialist who gets clean looks playing alongside the starters), whereas Herro can create his own shot and score in a variety of ways.

Would you rather be a good starter, or the best reserve in the league? Depends on who you ask, but for a young guy like Herro who is still on his rookie deal, it wouldn't surprise me if he preferred that 6MOTY hardware.

6.) 04 Nov 2021 02:11:23
Plus starter gets paid more than 6MOY.

And yeah, I’d rather be a good starter than the best non-starter. It’s like saying would you rather be the worst all star or best non all star. And that’s how things like all star voting is look at him being a starter or not. It could end up costing him money by not starting.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he came off the bench the rest of the year. But this feels like a Harden situation where he will not be happy long term with this.

7.) 04 Nov 2021 05:15:34
I agree. Heat on the top of East with Bulls. Herro is the favorite to win the 6MOTY. My runner up is Trez Harrell. My darkhorse for 6thman is Melo7.

8.) 04 Nov 2021 14:06:52
Bmiller I think you can make the argument that Herro would earn himself a bigger contract coming off the bench than he would in a starting role where he's reduced to mostly catch-and-shoot. Playing with the second-unit allows him to show off his full array of skills. He's going to get paid regardless; if the Heat don't want to, then someone else will.

I don't think your all-star analogy is completely fair. Anyone would rather be an all-star, but I'm willing to bet that some players would rather run the show with the reserves than be the 4th option amongst the starters. Especially young players who want to show off their offensive skills.

As for Harden, he wanted to stay in OKC but he also wanted to get paid like a star. Money was what ultimately caused the split. Despite being a reserve, plenty of teams were willing to pay him like a star because of the skills he showed while on the floor. Same thing applies to Herro. I'm sure he won't want to come off the bench for his whole career, but at this point it's not costing him anything.



01 Nov 2021 15:26:43
If I'm the Lakers, I would welcome a Westbrook-Irving swap. Kyrie wouldn't love the idea of being reunited with LeBron, but a chance to play for Kobe's old team and compete for a championship should allow him to let bygones be bygones.

But the serious question here is: would the Nets prefer Kyrie's empty roster spot over Westbrook? Would Russ be a "subtraction by addition" for the Nets? It's a real question considering Westbrook's inefficiency.

I would have to say that this deal would be worth it for the Nets, so long as Russ comes off the bench as a 6th man. Russ would be a huge boost to their second unit, and wouldn't disrupt the KD-Harden chemistry in a bench role. Something is almost always better than nothing, and the "something" that 6th man Russ would bring is better than the "nothing" that Kyrie currently provides.

Plus who wouldn't love to see OK3 back together and a LeBron-Kyrie reunion? I'm getting sentimental just thinking about it.


1.) 01 Nov 2021 16:22:56
depends on the upcoming NYC mayor's election goes. I seriously think they are just waiting it out to see if a new mayor (that the team owner is supporting? ) is going to lift the mandates.

2.) 02 Nov 2021 03:10:04
Fredman I feel you on that. However, the mayor will almost certainly be a Democrat (and therefore unlikely to lessen public health restrictions) . For the Nets, waiting and seeing is definitely the smart thing to do though.

If nothing changes after the election and there’s no indication of a change anytime soon, how would you feel about the swap for Westbrook? Should the Nets take it or roll with Kyrie’s empty roster spot?

3.) 02 Nov 2021 07:52:17
Rather take Wall from Houston than Westbrook. IMO Westbrook's "style" doesn't work unless he is the #1 option on a team.

4.) 04 Nov 2021 02:45:50
Fredman- wall hasn’t proven to be healthy in years and he and Russ are the same. Drive kick no jumper.



28 Oct 2021 16:26:44
If you could build a team around any young point guard right now, who would your choice be?

I'd have to go with LaMelo Ball. No, I do not think he's better than Trae Young. But he's taller, younger, less ball dominant, and has more upside (in my opinion). Trae is a close second, but I'm buying the hype when it comes to LaMelo.

Ja Morant and De'Aron Fox are honorable mentions.

Who are you guys going with?


1.) 28 Oct 2021 16:36:12
I personally never been super high on Trae. A lot of his success last year has to do with having one of the best and deepest roster in the league. Swap him with one of the 3 you mentioned and I think they’re just as good easily.

2.) 28 Oct 2021 16:59:25

3.) 28 Oct 2021 17:55:16
Forgot about Luka. I tend to think of him as more of a shooting guard but he is in fact a point guard. He’s definitely in this conversation but I’m still inclined to take LaMelo. I don’t know how well Luka would fit alongside other stars considering how ball dominant he is, and I don’t like his efficiency and off-ball presence. Defense is also a pretty big question for him.

4.) 28 Oct 2021 18:13:41
I pick JA. I think he has done more with less than trae. I like that he he a winner. I don’t dislike ball but seems like a tall trae, no defense whines a lot.

5.) 28 Oct 2021 20:17:23
I don't think it's fair to say LaMelo plays no defense. He's good at playing the passing lanes and generating steals, and he has the potential to be a quality defender considering his height and length. Ja is a solid choice though, he's had an unbelievable start to the season. I just like Melo for the things you can't teach like height and natural passing ability, although there's no teaching Morant's athleticism either.

6.) 28 Oct 2021 21:25:08
I like Morant. He 's the underdog since college and still proves he's better than we think. He can become allen iverson or (young) D rose level.

7.) 28 Oct 2021 21:53:13
Could say Morant is just as good playmaker tho.

8.) 28 Oct 2021 22:57:40
Morant is a great playmaker, but I think Melo is the more natural passer. Ja draws a lot of defensive attention and finds the open man, which is great, but Melo can make those mind-boggling passes that most players wouldn’t even attempt. His court vision is as good as anyone’s. I also like that Melo keeps the ball moving rather than holding on to it until he has an assist opportunity (like Rondo or Westbrook) .

9.) 29 Oct 2021 04:36:03
Doncic then Morant for me.



27 Oct 2021 18:57:12
DeAndre Ayton will enter the RFA market this summer. If a team with cap space like OKC offers him the full 4 year max, is it a given that the Suns will match the offer? Or could they negotiate a sign-and-trade deal instead?

Keep in mind that the Suns would have more leverage than a team typically has in sign-and-trade scenarios because they could say "meet our conditions or else we will match the offer." Whereas teams signing and trading a player are usually just trying to get some value rather than lose a player for nothing, the Suns have no risk of losing Ayton for nothing; therefore, they should be able to recoup full value.

Doing this could make sense for the Suns. They'd avoid being in salary cap hell while getting good assets to help them remain in contention. Thoughts on this? How do you think this plays out?





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30 Nov 2021 22:54:31
I'd imagine that the Magic would match that offer for Bamba, but if not then I'd be interested. No point in signing Bamba and Bol though; we still have Stewart, Olynyk, and Grant in the front court.




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29 Nov 2021 17:09:14
Fredman, Embiid’s 40% from 3 on 3.7 attempts is considered inefficient outside of the key to you?




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29 Nov 2021 17:05:14
Take out the Lakers 2028 first and its not bad.




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29 Nov 2021 12:49:56
Simmons-Bron wouldn’t be ideal but it’d be better than Russ-Bron. Ben is more efficient and would more willingly defer to Bron. I think AD-Embiid would be a lot better than AD-Boogie. Boogie was a ball dominant big who had turnover issues and poor defense. Embiid is an efficient two way player.




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29 Nov 2021 00:57:18
Bleacher report is about as reliable as MD.





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