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28 Sep 2020 22:58:58
Orl- Bos- Ind (assuming Hayward opt-in)

Orl receives Hayward, Smart, and M. Turner

Bos receives Vucevic and Oladipo

Ind receives Gordon, T. Ross, G. Williams, R. Langford, Orl. 2020 1st, Boston 2020 1st

Hard to imagine Boston giving up Smart or Hayward, but that would give them a heck of a starting 5.

Indiana seems to lose out the most, but adds young depth and some picks for Oladipo (who seems to want out).

What picks would need to be added?

FLhoopsFan

1.) 29 Sep 2020 16:21:05
Too much to give up for Boston.


 

 

24 Jul 2020 19:59:45
Just playing around, but...

Orl sends: Aaron Gordon and 2020 2nd rounder
Orl receives: Zach Lavine

Chicago sends: Zach Lavine and 2021 lotto protected first rounder
Chicago receives: Victor Oladipo

Indiana sends: Victor Oladipo and Myles Turner, Doug McDermott
Indiana receives: Aaron Gordon, Buddy Hield, Chicago 2021 lotto protected first rounder

Sacramento sends: Buddy Hield
Sacramento receives: Myles Turner, Doug McDermott, Orlando 2020 second rounder

Not sure values are just right, but fits seem better?

FLhoopsFan

1.) 24 Jul 2020 20:26:51
Might need more for Indy.
Oladipo >Hield
Turner and Gordon about =
McDermott.


2.) 24 Jul 2020 20:29:10
I think Chicago’s first would need to be their 2020 pick.


3.) 24 Jul 2020 22:21:38
Sactown passes.


 

 

17 Jul 2020 14:17:03
Mia- Ind

Miami gets Victor Oladipo

Indiana gets Tyler Herro, Andre Iguodala, and 2 second round picks

Herb Simon doesn't really want to pay Oladipo, but salvaged some talent here. He can still move Turner for an impact player if needed.

Miami gets a big 3 of Butler, Oladipo, and Adebayo with money enough for a Giannis offer in 2021.

Seems an unfair trade to Indiana admittedly, but their cap situation and ownership situation just put them at a disadvantage. This would at least keep them in the playoffs.

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1.) 17 Jul 2020 16:42:20
So just that we are clear. Those 2 seconds are a late 2022 (worse of PHI&DEN) and a 2027 second. These are the only 2nds Miami has.

I think SAC S&Ting Bogdanovich and a couple of seconds is a better offer for Oladipo.


2.) 17 Jul 2020 17:12:44
Yes, Fredman that’s about the only picks they could offer. And I wouldn’t disagree with you on the Bogdonovich offer. This was just a different option, albeit not a better one.


3.) 17 Jul 2020 17:15:47
Heck, I’d offer Ariza, Simons, and a first for Oladipo if he’s THAT cheap to get. Fit would be weird, but talent > fit.


4.) 17 Jul 2020 22:04:18
Herro is a young talent on a good contract for a few more years and he has te potential to become a star. I like that return for Indy.

I would also take Bogdanovic and a first for Dipo.

Indy isn't going to give him a max contract, his injury history lowers his value and we have the risk losing him for nothing next year.

A young SG and/ or a powerforward that can spread the floor and play defense and/ or future assets is propably that wat Indy wants for him.


5.) 18 Jul 2020 02:02:17
Make it a lottery protected first and its a done deal. Bogdanovich S&T 3yrs/ $45 mil. Cheaper than what you are paying Dipo.


6.) 18 Jul 2020 04:50:49
Rather have Herro than Bogdanovic.


 

 

04 Jul 2020 22:52:13
Orl- GS

Gordon, Bamba, Iwundu, 2020 1st, 2022 pick swap option

For

Wiggins and 2020 1st

Orlando breaks up front line log-jam and takes a flier on high pick guard. Wiggins likely fits in better next to Vooch and Isaac (though at a high cost).

GS gets a player that can help now (AG), one for the future (Bamba), relief from Wiggins contract, and can still pick up a three and D wing in this draft.

FLhoopsFan

1.) 05 Jul 2020 01:21:34
Lose the 2022 swap and seems fair.


2.) 05 Jul 2020 08:19:09
Gordon > Wiggens.


 

 

04 Jul 2020 13:29:36
Orl-Por

CJ McCollum and Nassir Little

For

Aaron Gordon, Terrence Ross, 2020 1st, and 2021 2nd rounder

Orlando gets premier shooting guard to generate offense. Little still profiles as a developmental project, but with other options at the three, Orlando is ok there.

Portland gets a streaky off-ball scorer that won't take the ball out of Lillards hands. Opens up minutes for Trent, Jr. and Simons development. Gordon looks like a great fit next to Nurkic or Collins. The biggest are thrown in to convince them to break up their pairing.

FLhoopsFan

1.) 04 Jul 2020 17:17:46
Fournier instead of Ross.


2.) 04 Jul 2020 20:43:09
I still think it isn't enough.


3.) 04 Jul 2020 22:10:13
I just hate giving up the second best player on the team to get a worse player. Stars win. Portland needs one more star.

I also think that Gordon is a weird fit on that roster. He can’t play full time SF, and Collins is a 4. So bringing in Gordon just stunts Collins development. I’d take him for reasonably cheap (Ariza and a pick maybe), but not as the centerpiece for McCollum.


 

 

 

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13 May 2020 20:44:47
How do you think Chuma Okeke compares with Isaac Okoro?

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08 May 2020 20:06:19
Just curious... what could Golden State get for their top three pick (presuming) and the $17 million Igoudala exception? It just seems they'd be best off flipping those in a win now move.

FLhoopsFan

1.) 08 May 2020 21:46:14
Pretty much anyone making less than $17 mil.


2.) 09 May 2020 03:31:11
Josh Richardson, Carl LaVert (not sure when he eligible to be traded), or Spencer Dinwiddie.


3.) 09 May 2020 07:15:01
Cavs got love for Wiggins I'm going for something better then those players with a top 3 pick.


4.) 09 May 2020 11:58:12
ll, that was a significantly better draft. There were 3 highly thought of prospects in Wiggins, Parker and Embiid. This draft doesn’t have anyone on that level.


5.) 09 May 2020 13:37:33
Doesn’t the fact that Wiggins and Parker turned in to what they did prove that the pick still has tremendous value?


6.) 09 May 2020 13:41:52
The pick is not the issue. The salary is what really limits options as most players "worthy" of trading a top pick for are making more than $17 mil.

Nets could add players (staying under $17 mil) and philly's 2020 first.

Philly can do the same with Milton and OKC's 2020 first.


7.) 09 May 2020 16:16:55
Bmiller, not if you think there are at best players that have huge bust potential and some boom potential and role players at the top of the draft.


8.) 09 May 2020 16:49:32
Top 3 pick plus wolves pick and warriors 2021 pick will Get warriors a good player better then those.


9.) 10 May 2020 01:49:36
The top 5 of the draft has had a minimum of 1 all star every year for the last 30 years. Most have two. Very rarely more than 2. No matter the feeling of the draft, the consistency of bust to star is there. Teams and fans that think differently just think they’re smarter than the room. A good GM understands the inherent value of a top 5 pick no matter the draft class.


 

 

15 Sep 2018 01:52:24
Seems as though Phoenix and Orlando both need starting point guards. Can't imagine anyone is desperate to give up their starters, but top line back ups like Cory Joseph, Delon Wright, Shaun Livingston,or Patrick Beverly might be attainable. My question is if you'd rather have a package including Vucevic and/or Jonathan Simmons or if Phoenix's combo of T.J. Warren and/or T. Chandler is more appealing?

FLhoopsFan

1.) 15 Sep 2018 02:38:42
I would rather have the Phoenix combo only because Warren is signed to a long term deal at a reasonable amount. Chandler is used up and not worth much. If you could be assured of Vucevic re-signing, the Orlando pair is better.

I believe that Patty Mills is also a top line backup who is experienced and has started before. Spurs have a couple of young guards who could replace Mills without much loss so they might be willing to deal him.

Any of the backup PGs you mentioned should be considered short term help until an upgrade can be acquired or developed.


 

 

 

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30 Sep 2020 19:02:26
Hunter/ Reddish are at best low-end starters, 6th pick likely will be as well. Desmond and Fernando just clog up Bryant’s minutes, and the future first would likely be a late first. That would be an awful return for Washington.

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14 Sep 2020 19:47:47
Too much from Orlando.

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11 Sep 2020 19:33:14
Why for Chicago?

Green and Cook don’t = LaVine?
Where would Kuzma fit in with Markkanen, Carter, and Young?

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06 Sep 2020 16:50:45
Wait, Pels are giving up Ball and a first for Garland? In what universe does that make sense?

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03 Sep 2020 19:48:44
Beg to differ, but you’re not looking at Gordon for the 1st, it’s Gordon and 2 firsts for #1. Are you certain of that 2022 picks value? Maybe loosen the protection, but that value seems about right.

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