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10 Feb 2022 10:05:12
SAC - NY

Sacramento receives: Evan Fournier, Taj Gibson

New York receives: Richaun Holmes, Jeremy Lamb

kh28

1.) 10 Feb 2022 10:57:30
Because Kings ate taking on more future salary, Knicks need to add 2023 Detroit second.


2.) 10 Feb 2022 11:28:58
Just want to point out that while Fournier makes more than Holmes, Fournier has a team option on the final year while Holmes has a player option on the final year. It seems likely that Fournier will be under contract for two more years after this season, and Holmes for three more years after this season.


3.) 10 Feb 2022 13:54:22
Jeremy Lamb was just traded to the Kings, so he can't be added in a trade with other players for 60 days. so unless the numbers can work with 2 distinct trades this can't happen.


4.) 10 Feb 2022 14:28:26
Nice catch, wind rapidly. I don't usually miss things like that.


 

 

10 Feb 2022 09:37:03
SAC - NY - TOR

Sacramento receives: Evan Fournier, Chris Boucher

New York receives: Goran Dragic, Richaun Holmes

Toronto receives: Nerlens Noel, Marvin Bagley

kh28

1.) 10 Feb 2022 12:34:47
Boucher>Bagley
and Dragic has more value than Noel.


2.) 10 Feb 2022 14:00:59
Not terrible from Toronto's perspective if they think Bagley's restricted rights are worth persuing. I do think Toronto has higher expectations from the Dragic contract. but would probably take this over buying him out.


3.) 10 Feb 2022 14:33:06
Just curious to see how contracts like Dragic, Rubio and Orl's Harris are moved at the deadline. Don't see many teams dumping big chunks of salary. Especially with the cap space OKC has available.


 

 

06 Jan 2022 08:27:47
Couple Kings trades

SAC-ATL
Sacramento receives: Gallinari, Reddish
Atlanta receives: Barnes, Harkless

SAC-CLE
Sacramento receives: Love, Osman, Pangos, '22 CLE 1st
Cleveland receives: Hield, Bagley, Thompson, '22 SAC 2nd

SAC depth:
Fox / Mitchell / Pangos
Haliburton / Davis / Ramsey
Reddish / Osman / Woodard
Love / Gallinari / Metu
Holmes / Jones / Len

ATL depth:
Young / Wright / Williams
Bogdanovic / Huerter / Luwawu
Barnes / Hunter / Hill
Collins / Harkless / Johnson
Capela / Okongwu / Dieng

CLE depth:
Garland / Rondo / Rubio
Okoro / Hield / Sexton
Markkanen / Windler / Stevens
Mobley / Bagley / Wade
Allen / Thompson / Davis

SAC takes another look at a new core and gains some cap flexibility (Love's deal is shorter than Hield's, Gallinari only has $5M guaranteed next season compared to Barnes' $18M) and moves up in the draft from their 2nd rd spot. They probably look to trade/buyout one of Love / Gallinari.

Atlanta makes a win-now move and moves a couple players who probably weren't in their future plans.

Cleveland fills a hole at SG, gets a look at Bagley, and gains cap space for the upcoming offseason.

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28 Dec 2021 19:44:08
SAC -CHI

Sacramento receives: Patrick Williams, Derrick Jones, Troy Brown

Chicago receives: Harrison Barnes, Moe Harkless, Damian Jones, '22 2nd via CHI, '25 2nd via POR

SAC depth:
Fox / Mitchell
Haliburton / Davis / Ramsey
Hield / Jones / Brown
Metu / Bagley / Woodard / Williams(inj)
Holmes / Thompson / Len

CHI depth:
Ball / White
LaVine / Caruso / Dosunmu / Thomas
DeRozan / Green / McKinnie
Barnes / Harkless
Vucevic / Bradley / Jones / Simonovic

kh28

1.) 28 Dec 2021 23:50:40
I wouldn't give up Pat Williams to get Barnes. Wasn't he the 5th pick last year? I know he's hurt but still.


2.) 29 Dec 2021 01:38:02
I hear ya - maybe the Kings can expand this trade to more teams and send Chicago a first rounder projected to be in the 20's range (instead of the two 2nd's)


3.) 29 Dec 2021 04:04:54
No from Sac.


 

 

13 Aug 2021 11:11:52
SAC - BOS - MEM

Sacramento receives: Nesmith, Langford, Edwards, Clarke, Bledsoe (buyout)

Boston receives: Hield, Woodard, Ramsey, future 2nd from SAC

Memphis receives: Richardson, Thompson

SAC depth:
Fox / Mitchell / Edwards
Haliburton / Davis / Langford
Barnes / Nesmith / Harkless / King (2W)
Bagley / Clarke / Metu
Holmes / Len / Jones / Queta (2W)

BOS depth:
Schroeder / Pritchard / Dunn
Smart / Hield / Ramsey
Brown / Woodard / Hauser (2W)
Tatum / G. Williams / FA
R. Williams / Horford / Kanter / Fernando

MEM depth:
Morant / Jones
Bane / Melton / Konchar / Merrill
Brooks / Richardson / Z. Williams / McDermott (2W)
Jackson / Anderson / Aldama
Adams / Thompson / Tillman / Tillie (2W)

kh28

1.) 13 Aug 2021 13:49:59
Horrible for Boston. Unless marcus smart takes him under his wing to teach him how to play defense.


2.) 13 Aug 2021 15:20:59
why would the kings want to do this?


3.) 13 Aug 2021 22:49:22
I mean ideally the Kings would find a way to trade for someone like Pascal Siakam or Tobias Harris, but they're likely unavailable. Nesmith and Clarke would fit with the Kings current young core.


 

 

 

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30 Jul 2021 16:32:30
How did the Aaron Holiday trade work?

Holiday + #31 for #22?

Isn't Washington over the cap with no players / trade exceptions going back to Indiana?

kh28

1.) 30 Jul 2021 20:29:41
The Russell Westbrook trade freed up some cap space for them.


2.) 30 Jul 2021 23:10:38
If it was part of the same trade then Washington was taking back less money in the 3 Lakers than they were sending out with Westbrook, so Holiday's salary would fit in there. Also the 1st year salaries of the two drafted players would count as well, so the Wizards would be taking back less with the 31 than they send with the 22.


3.) 31 Jul 2021 22:36:11
WAS may have cleared a little bit of space, but they were at $120m with Westbrook, so they would still be above the $112m (? ) salary cap for '21-'22. Also the rookie scale salaries for drafted players do not count against the cap until they actually sign their contracts.


4.) 01 Aug 2021 21:48:59
@kh28. Rookie scale salaries for drafted players are held against the salary cap for those teams under the salary cap in the form of a cap hold. For example, the #15 pick has a cap hold of $3,383,640 if Washington ever gets below the salary cap. This cap hold is also created if a team that was over the cap makes a trade that puts them under the salary cap.

Also, technically the trade did not "create cap space". It did create a TLE for Washington around $8.5 mil that Holiday is being traded into.


 

 

 

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10 Feb 2022 11:28:58
Just want to point out that while Fournier makes more than Holmes, Fournier has a team option on the final year while Holmes has a player option on the final year. It seems likely that Fournier will be under contract for two more years after this season, and Holmes for three more years after this season.

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29 Dec 2021 01:38:02
I hear ya - maybe the Kings can expand this trade to more teams and send Chicago a first rounder projected to be in the 20's range (instead of the two 2nd's)

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11 Sep 2021 23:10:06
I like the idea, but I don't think they'll be able to afford Grant's next contract in 2 years. He has left good situations before to get what he wants. I also probably value Patrick Williams more than most.

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13 Aug 2021 22:49:22
I mean ideally the Kings would find a way to trade for someone like Pascal Siakam or Tobias Harris, but they're likely unavailable. Nesmith and Clarke would fit with the Kings current young core.

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10 Aug 2021 05:14:29
OK so send James (waive) instead of Ramsey and then there's 2 spots to free up. With contracts like Dragic or Thompson in this scenario, the Raptors could easily buy someone out or make more moves. Toronto's non-guaranteed / end of the bench guys aren't holding it up if they start to target someone like Mitchell.

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31 Jul 2021 22:36:11
WAS may have cleared a little bit of space, but they were at $120m with Westbrook, so they would still be above the $112m (? ) salary cap for '21-'22. Also the rookie scale salaries for drafted players do not count against the cap until they actually sign their contracts.

kh28