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11 Oct 2019 13:59:41
Celtics - Thunder

Celtics gets:
Adams
Schroeder
2020 1st (the worst of Thunder, Nuggets and Celtics)
2020 2nd rd pick (Thunder)
2021 2nd rd pick (Thunder)

Thunder gets:
Hayward
Williams
2020 1st (Grizzlies via Celtics)
2020 1st (the two most favorable of Thunder, Nuggets and Celtics)

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11 Oct 2019 15:33:11
Hayward is trash until he proves everyone wrong. You need at least 2 1st rounders to unload him. Adams has some value so you need more than Williams here. Schröder has close to no value. He's a little overpaid, but still is one of the best backup PGs.

So maybe Hayward, Williams and 3 1st rounders (or 2 1st rounders and 2nd rounders) for Adams and Schröder.

11 Oct 2019 22:09:05
I kind of like this deal. I agree that Hayward is negative value, but since OKC is not a free agent destination, I don’t mind the gamble if the compensation is right. Where is Adams going to take OKC, anyway? Schröeder is decidedly a negative contract.

Here, OKC gets the better of the BOS and DEN picks, which is not much, but nice to move up. The two Thunder seconds have a little value in the 35-40 range, but they are still just second rounders, and could be omitted.

The jewel of this trade is the MEM pick, which is Top 6 protected this year, and fully unprotected in 2021. OKC has to love that one.

For BOS, I can see how this trade does some good, and I’m not against them using it. Exchanging Hayward for Adams certainly removes risk, as they still try to contend, and his screens would help. But is Steven Adams the player you use up the MEM pick on?

11 Oct 2019 23:43:41
To your question Shrink, my answer is a strong no. That pick is for a star. Anything else is a mistake. Boston just doesn’t get any better with this trade.

It’s just like the plethora of Blazer trades involving expiring deals and picks. If it’s not for a star, what’s the point? Both Boston and Portland are in very similar situations. They can’t swap around role players. They’re both a star from true contention. Don’t waste assets.

12 Oct 2019 04:20:49
That's stupid for OKC.
They just get the Grizzlies Pick and! maybe! a upgrade of a few spots because they can choose between the Celtics pick or the Nuggets pick (which has protection! ) while getting a 66 million contract and sending out Adams and 2 2nd rounders.

And who says the Memphis Pick is for sure in the top 10? I can remember everyone saying the same about the Kings pick from Boston the last 3 years.

Why not waiting until next offseason or the trade deadline. There are a lot of contenders looking for upgrades at Center (Lakers, Clippers, Nets, . ) . And why not looking for cap flexibility instead of taking on Hayward? Memphis did well with that.

12 Oct 2019 11:58:23
The Celtics are not trading Hayward, especially if they think he has negative trade value. They will let it ride with him. He has only this year and next. After this season he will have an expiring contract and will have more value than a player like Wall who really won't have played for 2 seasons.







 

 

 
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