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27 May 2022 06:55:52
Pacers Reload/Rebuild

Trade #1
Pacers: Anunoby, Birch
Raptors: Hield, Bitadze

Trade #2
Pacers: #4 pick, Holmes, J. Holiday
Kings: #6 Pick, Brogdon

Trade #3
Pacers: either #15 or #17 pick
Hornets or Rockets: McConnell, #58

Draft: Murray (4), Wesley (15/17),
Nemhard (31)

Sign: G Harris (3yr/45M), T Jones

Anynoby/J Holiday/Taylor
Haliburton/Jones/Washington Jr

Agree1 Disagree7

27 May 2022 11:03:54
Do you really think we can get Anunoby for Hield?

27 May 2022 11:42:06
You can take trade #2 and shooter it up you poop shute.

27 May 2022 12:45:48
I like OG on the Pacers, but the Raps say hell no to that.

27 May 2022 16:42:57
I actually like trade 2 if they can get Murray @6. He’s not far behind Ivey/ Sharpe and Brogdon is definitely better than Holmes and Holiday. I don’t see why Pacers would trade Brogdon when Murray is projected at 6 anyways.

Trade 1 is a quick no from Raps

McConnell won’t get a mid 1st.

27 May 2022 17:03:01
You think that Sacramento likes Brogdon enough to give up 2 spots in the draft, take on $6 mil in salary this year as well as $30 mil in salary over the following 3 years? And then most likely have to draft Brodgon's replacement at #6?

Try pushing Brodgon on a team that needs a PG like NY or Minnesota.

27 May 2022 18:41:22
You should like him enough. I would most definitely pay an extra 10mil a year for Brogdon to be on my team rather than Holmes. Brogdon is one of those players that is a perfect fit for any team. He’s been one of the most efficient players in the league since coming in while giving + defense as well. Would be a great compliment to Fox.

Pacers don’t really have to trade up for Murray as he’s already projected @6. If anything they prolly take Ivey. There’s not a whole lot of difference between 4-6 this year. Ivey Sharpe and Murray are all pretty much right there together. Kings want to get better and make the playoffs, this is the kindve trade that makes you better. You get 2 starters instead of 1.

Fox/ Brogdon/ Barnes/ Murray/ Sabonis

Haliburton/ Ivey/ Hield/ Smith/ Turner.

27 May 2022 18:50:37
What’s wrong with taking extra salary if it makes you better? 10 extra mil a year isn’t very much.

27 May 2022 20:16:14
Refresh my memory, what has Brogdon done since his 50-40-90 season? Absolutely nothing. Yea, that's what I thought.

27 May 2022 21:11:57
Must have some lousy research on him if you think he hasn’t done anything since that season (last year on Bucks)

On the Pacers alone his career averages have been 19/ 5/ 6 on 45/ 35/ 87 while giving good defense so that theory is incredibly wrong.

My question should be what has Holmes EVER done for you not to take a substantial better player and still getting 1 of the 3 players in the same tier in this draft?

27 May 2022 23:27:54
For starters, I don't view Murray in the same tier as Ivey and Sharpe. Murray gets a ton of consideration because of fit and a lack of PFs that follow after him.

Brogdon's stats = Buddy Hield stats. And you omitted the most important Brogdon stat of all (mot really surprising of NBA16). Only 60% availability over the last 3 seasons. 60% is also Holmes career shooting percentage.

28 May 2022 01:01:32
Brogdon is also twice the player as Hield. Much better playmaker, finisher, rebounder and defender. Terrible comparison.

Also Murray is definitely the same tier as them. Which is why Murray has been projected between 4-6 all season long. 23/ 9 which great defense and shooting at all 3 levels and drawing comps to Siakam definitely puts him in the 2nd tier.

Holmes is below average. Ofc his shooting % is that Bc all he is, is a roller and put back guy. He’s a below average starter and solid backup.

But we know you overrate all Kings players considering you sent Barnes and HOLMES LOL for Siakam like don’t try.

28 May 2022 01:58:19
Calling Holmes a roller and put back guy shows that you don't watch Holmes play. He scores primarily from a push-shot from the elbow and on transition buy out running the opponents big man.

28 May 2022 02:02:48
additionally, at the start of the season, The Sporting News ranked Holmes #15 of all the starting centers in the league. So more knowledgeable experts find your assessment of Holmes to be false. Not surprising.

28 May 2022 03:18:02
That same site had Holmes over Robert Williams, Adams, Peoltl and Carter Jr as well. Same seems like you and that “expert” having terribly valuing on Holmes, who was the starting center when the Kings were dead last in points given up in the paint.

I can very well name 15 centers over Holmes.
Embiid Jokic Gobert Towns Vucevic Valanciunas Capela Turner Williams Adams Peoltl Porzingis Allen Ayton Nurkic (Sabonis if you count him) Wood Carter Jr Lopez. That’s 18/ 19 just off the top of my head. I would also prefer Noel, Drummond, Harrelland Portis over Holmes. That’s over 20. Once again Fred shows homerism.



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