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24 May 2016 17:12:38
Celtics two trades that must be made

Trade 1: "TRADING DOWN FOR TEAM NEEDS"

Celtics trade: #3 Brooklyn pick, 2018 Boston 1st rounder, 2019 Memphis 1st, 2020 boston 1st (top 20 protected) Rj Hunter, #35 Minny pick, #45 Memphis pick, 2017 Cleveland 2nd rounder, 2019 Detroit 2nd rounder, 2020 Miami 2nd rounder

Celtics receive: Willie Cauley-Stein, #6 Pelicans pick, and Alonzo Gee (cut)


Sactown trades: Willie Cauley-Stein, #8 Own pick, and Ben Mclemore

Sactown receives #3 Brooklyn pick, 2018 Boston 1st round pick, 2019 Memphis 1st, 2020 boston 1st (top 20 protected) Rj Hunter, #35 Minny pick, 2017 Cleveland 2nd rounder 2019 Detroit 2nd rounder


New Orleans trades: #6 Own pick, Alonzo Gee

New Orleans receives:#8 Sactown pick, Ben Mclemore, #45 Memphis pick, 2020 Miami 2nd rounder

The Why? :

New Orleans: The Pelicans are able to trade down and pick two spots later along with a young SG with upside in Mclemore that can replace Eric Gordon. They can select Jakob Poeltl giving them a true center

Sactown: They would miss out on Kris Dunn staying at #8 but a strong move to move up to #3 gives them a player they want. They do have to give up some value WCS and Mclemore, but the Kings aren't impressed with Mclemore and were rumored to be shopping him at the deadline last year.

Boston: Boston trades down from #3 to #6 and is able to pick up WCS a defensive C which the C's need desperately, and a high potential SF in Brown.

Trade #2: "TRADING UP FOR NEEDS"

Boston trades: #16 Dallas pick and #23 Own pick, and #51 Miami pick

Utah trades:#12

The Why?
Utah: Trades down to pick up extra draft picks to continue to build team.

Boston: The C's move up to draft Denzel Valentine a need at SG.

Final draft pick #31 (3 possibilities) 1.Thon Maker 2.Zhou QI 3.Anti ZIzic Either as draft and stash or Developing big men.

Team after the draft:

PG: Thomas-Smart-Rozier
SG: Bradley-Valentine-Young
SF: Crowder-Brown
PF: Johnson-Jerebko-Mickey
C: WCS-Olynyk (#31 pick: see above)

Free agents to be
SG-Turner
C-Zeller and Sullinger.

24 May 2016 19:15:48
I love WCS coming here, thought he was the perfect fit. But we still need scoring and play making with the roster you provided. For me I think there is no way we let Turner go, he is our best play maker. And then we need to get another scorer. As you probably saw in the playoffs, once Atlanta locked up on Thomas we had no one else who could score. That is the first move we need to address this offseason, then we look for a shot blocking center.

24 May 2016 20:21:55
Wait am I reading this right? (I am seriously asking)

Celtics are giving up all these assets for WCS and the possibility of drafting Valentine? Why?

24 May 2016 21:02:43
Valentine is Turner just a better shooter, but a lesser defender.

22 May 2016 18:02:14
The Celtics falling out of the top 3 hurt their chances at a superstar whether by trade or draft. Sitting at 3 the Celtics have quite a few options. In reality everyone knows Simmons and Ingram are going 1 and 2. Due to that fact the Celtics have "the number 1 pick" for the remainder of the draft. I believe in building through the draft and growing a young, yet high potential team. I propose trading down from 3 and trading up from 16 and drafting NBA ready players that can help. this team now and in the future. Here me out.

Trade 1: "TRADING DOWN FOR TEAM NEEDS"

Celtics trade: #3 Brooklyn pick, 2018 Boston 1st rounder, Rj Hunter, #35 Minny pick, #45 Memphis pick, 2017 Cleveland 2nd rounder, 2019 Detroit 2nd rounder, 2020 Miami 2nd rounder

Celtics receive: Willie Cauley-Stein, #6 Pelicans pick, and Alonzo Gee (cut)


Sactown trades: Willie Cauley-Stein, #8 Own pick, and Ben Mclemore

Sactown receives #3 Brooklyn pick, 2018 Boston 1st round pick, Rj Hunter, #35 Minny pick, 2017 Cleveland 2nd rounder 2019 Detroit 2nd rounder


New Orleans trades: #6 Own pick, Alonzo Gee

New Orleans receives:#8 Sactown pick, Ben Mclemore, #45 Memphis pick, 2020 Miami 2nd rounder

The Why? :

New Orleans: The Pelicans are able to trade down and give up a backup SF in Gee and receive a pick two spots later along with a young SG with upside in Mclemore that can replace Eric Gordon, along with extra draft selections. They can select Jakob Poeltl giving them a true center allowing Davis to play PF. They get great value by trading down just two spots.

Sactown: They would miss out on Kris Dunn staying at #8 but a strong move to move up to #3 gives them a player they want. They do have to give up some value WCS and Mclemore, but the Kings aren't impressed with Mclemore and were rumored to be shopping him at the deadline last year. WCS is the only real value i see them pausing on before this trade. Although after Danny sweetens the pot by adding the 2018 Boston 1st rounder, Kings can't say no. They also pick up Hunter a SG project along with more draft selections. Overall they get #3 and good value in return.

Boston: Boston trades down from #3 to #6 and is able to pick up WCS a defensive C which the C's need desperately. They are able to cash in some of the numerous 2nd rounders they have. Giving up the 2018 1st sounds like a lot to give up but in two years i see the Celtics as a contender and that pick at worst will be in the 22-30 range. With the #6 pick the Celtics draft Jaylen Brown. He is perfect for our SF position behind Crowder and he has All Star potential . I project him as a taller more athletic Marcus Smart. I like to imagine Smart, Bradley, Brown, Crowder, WCS, all on the court at the same time, granted we wouldn't score but neither would the opposing team. Overall the C's get a need at both SF and the rim protecting Center they always needed without giving up the higher priced assets.


Trade #2: "TRADING UP FOR NEEDS"

Boston trades: #16 Dallas pick and #23 Own pick, and #51 Miami pick

Boson receives: #12


Utah trades:#12

Utah receives:#16 Dallas pick, #23 Own pick, and # 51 Miami pick

The Why? :

Utah: Trades down to pick up extra draft picks to continue to build team.

Boston: The C's move up to draft Denzel Valentine a need at SG. He plays almost identical to Evan Turner with the main trade off of Valentine being a better shooter but a worse defender. The Celtics option for a younger, cheaper, better shooting option, as they can now let Evan Turner go in free agency and not have to pay upwards of 10 million a year. The one variant in all of this is that Valentine could be available at #16. I just can't see that happening but it is a possibility.


Final draft pick #31 (3 possibilities) 1.Thon Maker 2.Zhou QI 3.Anti ZIzic Either as draft and stash or Developing big men.

Team after the draft:

PG: Thomas-Smart-Rozier
SG: Bradley-Valentine-Young
SF: Crowder-Brown
PF: Johnson-Jerebko-Mickey
C: WCS-Olynyk (#31 pick: see above)

Free agents to be
SG-Turner
C's Zeller and Sullinger

Celtics are in prime position to attack free agency. With no Glaring needs (maybe PF) and still with numerous assets the Celtics can do whatever Danny wants. This team is better than last year and has amazing potential for this year and definitely the future. This is the best smartest option for the Celtics this upcoming draft. Still armed with all the future Nets picks the Celtics can stay the course and develop into a powerhouse or flip any of these prospects and make a power move.

22 May 2016 18:27:43
Sorry I know it's long.

23 May 2016 00:42:23
You don't really expect people to read that novel right?

23 May 2016 01:32:23
Kings say no. WCS is worth more or equal to three this year IMHO. Two would be different. Sac 8 pick is worth more than 2018 Boston 1st round pick, Rj Hunter, #35 Minny pick, 2017 Cleveland 2nd rounder 2019 Detroit 2nd rounder. McLemore is better than nothing. Sorry pass.

23 May 2016 14:47:49
Pels would pounce at that deal.

20 May 2016 16:10:31
*Alot of crazy and thoughtless deals being tossed around here on the sight for the Celtics. I believe there will be George, Anthony, Cousins, Okafor, or Durant's etc. coming to town here in Boston.

My Ideas for Celtics Most Realistic Off-season Moves for '16-'17.


-Revisit a Trade with Chicago between Lottery Night and Draft Night.
*No J. Crowder in deal. *


Chicago Gets : -Nets 2016,2018 1st Rnd. picks
Dallas 2016 1nd. pick,2016 2nd Rnd. Miami pick
-A. Bradley, K. Olynyk, A. Johnson, J. Young

Boston Gets: -J. Butler, T. Gibson



*Draft Night Targets: Celts possibly may or may not choose to try to Draft-Up in 1st Rnd. for D. Valentine, B. Johnson, or M. Chriss.
All depends if D. A. and Co. can pull off a blockbuster trade for an All-Star.
My personal favorite Draft editions that would greatly benefit the Team are D. Valentine and A. J. Hammons

*1stRnd. (1-maybe 2 picks made)
My preferences in order if they are available.

#1-D. Valentine SG/ SF
#2-B. Johnson PF-or-
#3-M. Chriss PF-or-
#4-A. J. Hammons C/ PF

*2nd. Rnd. (3-5 picks made)

#1-T. Maker PF/ C
#2-J. Blossengame SF/ SG
#3-K. Felder PG
#4-A. Zizic C -or- I. Zubac C * (Draft and Stash)
#5-J. Uthoff PF



*Resign:
-E. Turner -Hometown Discount 4yr/ $35M
-J. Jerebko -Guarantee His 1yr/ $5M
-A. Johnson -Guarantee His 1yr/ $12M


*Sign FA:
-H. Whiteside -4yr/ $85M


*Let Sullinger, Zeller Sign Elsewhere.
Holland and Clarke Released.



*LINEUP:

PG: I. Thomas M. Smart T. Rozier-or-
K. Felder

SG: J. Butler D. Valentine-or- R. J. Hunter-or-
E. Turner J. Blossengame

SF: J. Crowder E. Turner-or- J. Blossengame-or-
J. Blossengame J. Uthoff

PF: T. Gibson J. Jerebko J. Mickey-or-
B. Johnson-or-
M. Chriss-or-
J. Uthoff

C : H. Whiteside A. J. Hammon T. Maker-or-
A. Zizic-or-
I. Zubac (Draft n'Stash)

*Injury pending;Team should improve to a 55+ win Conference Contender and about $10M under new Salary Cap.

20 May 2016 20:15:40
Looks a successful offseason to me. Definitely a competitive squad with plenty of young players so will only improve with time.

20 May 2016 20:33:25
No way zubac and zizic last til the second both could go on the middle of the 1st.

20 May 2016 22:19:44
I would be very, very surprised if Okafor becomes a Celtic.

21 May 2016 00:56:40
phillyrich1 I agree don't think Okafor is a great fit. Rumor has it they sent some trade offers for him at the deadline so maybe there is some interest however its probably just Ainge trying to low ball the hell out of them.

20 May 2016 16:00:54
Mavs offseason

Trade
Denver gets: Parsons
Dallas gets: Faried

Trade
Atlanta gets: Harris and McGee
Dallas gets: Teague

Re sign
D. Williams- 3 years+ team option 26 mil. (19.5 mil guaranteed)
Felton- 3 years 21 mil.
Powell- Qualifying offer
Villanueva- min.
Pachulia- MLE
Dirk- 2 years 20 mil. (bird rights)

Sign
Batum- 4 years 52 mil.
Ezili- 4 years 40 mil.

Pg: Williams, Teague, Barea
Sg: Matthews, Felton
Sf: Batum, Anderson, Evans
Pf: Dirk, Faried, Powell, Villanueva
C: Ezili, Mejri, Pachulia.

20 May 2016 20:15:21
Just terrible. Why would Denver trade farried for a free agent? If ezeli gets that offer sheet it is guaranteed he is in GS next year. And batum will be offered almost double that.

20 May 2016 20:25:18
Hawks can get more for Teague and not that he would have a say really in a trade but he'd want to go to a team where he starts (kinda the reason he's being traded too valuable to be on bench) .

Parsons seems kinda redundant with galo but not a bad trade value wise.

20 May 2016 20:34:07
No way Atlanta does that deal.

21 May 2016 01:58:54
Lol wow, nothing to do with the Bucks, but everything in this is terrible lol. It was funny tho

18 May 2016 05:05:13
Boston offseason
boston and indiAna
Boston gives smart, bradley, crowder 2018 brooklyn pick, Memphis 2019 and boston and Dallas picks this year
indiAna gives up Paul george

sign whiteside max offer
hopefully sign durant max offer
Jamal crawford biannual
turner resign at discount
retain johnson
draft hield at # 3

Thomas/ hield/ rozier
george / crawford
durant/ turner
Johnson / olynyk
whiteside/ zeller or some other center that's available

this team will be the team to beat in the east.

18 May 2016 05:17:02
You won't be getting a star without trading the third pick.

18 May 2016 12:08:20
I don't think there's a team out there who can put a better package for george but if you want to be delusional and claim that the offer is not enough, fine take the pick as well. If they can get that starting lineup it doesn't matter if they have the third pick or not.

18 May 2016 14:42:51
I'm not being delusional, I'm being real. You trade three decent players or three decent "system" players and picks 2-3 years away, that's a big risk for the Pacers to take. Sixers could offer a better package.

18 May 2016 17:32:35
WAY too much for George.

18 May 2016 04:17:21
Boston offseason
sign derozan max offer
sign whiteside max offer
Draft hield with # 3
Trade smart, crowder, jerebko, hunter, rozier plus brooklyn 2018, dallas pick, boston pick, Memphis 2019
for Chicago's butler

thomas/ hield
derozan/ bradley
butler/ turner
Johnson/ olynyk
whiteside/ mickey

scratch derozan if durant for some reason decides he wants to come over. Not the greatest team for sure, not close to banner 18 but will take some pressure off of Isaiah and can give Cleveland a run for their money I think.

any ideas for big men btw? Free agents? Maybe Ezeli as well.

18 May 2016 05:12:41
Not crazy about drafting Hield although I guess he's more ready to contribute than other prospects, although Dunn may be another good option especially as a backup pg (personally I like Murray at 3). I'd see if Pacers will bite with a similar offer for George (maybe incorporate 3rd pick) also. I guess while your at it due your due diligence and check-in with Kings on Cousins (he could co-exist even with whiteside although I don't think that's ideal) .

As far as big men I think retaining Sullinger is something to explore depending on the cost. At the 4 I also like terence jones and Leur who both are relatively young athletic and can stretch the floor and I think undervalued. At center Ezeli is an option. I also like Mahinmi who put together solid season in Indy. Mozgov may be able to be stolen after a quite year as well.

18 May 2016 05:36:24
hield is a sg bro.

18 May 2016 17:53:21
Willy I know he's a sg. He will be able to play both man.

Don't want sullinger. Not worth the price. If we can grab george I would do it. George + whiteside will be enough to get Durant I think.

17 May 2016 22:02:46
Build the next Mavs contender.

It looks like Mavs should be able to sign Howard or Whiteside. This is what they need. Both want money but both want to win!

I learned Leuer is available! He is good alrounder on both sides of the floor. He can join a contender and maybe he can develop a starting role when Dirk retires in two years.

O. J. Mayo works in Dallas. It makes no sense for me to see him at Bucks. He do not have the Starters role and they will not grant him that amount of salary he had. So FA Mayo to Mavs would fit well for everybody.

Sign FA Howard (Whiteside) 4y / 100m

Sign FA Leuer 1+1y / 11m

Sign FA Mayo 1+1y / 11m

Trade with Kings:
-Evans
Mavs get:
-Caron Butler

Zaza need to go to an athletic team! Maybe he can hire at Cleveland? Let Villa and Lee go as well and resign the others!

Howard, Mejri, McGee
Nowitzki, Leuer, Powell
Parsons, Anderson, Butler
Wes, Mayo, Harris
DWil, Barea, Felton.

17 May 2016 22:24:04
Decent but I think Leur will get a 3yr deal and Mayo will get something around 2yr 12m.

17 May 2016 23:46:03
It's not bad. These moves may make them a playoff team but I don't think it really makes them a contender either now or in the future. I think Leur is a good dark horse player and under rated but I don't think he comes close to stepping in for DIrk ever.

Mavericks aren't in a good place after the Rondo disaster and then the DeAndre Jordan fiasco. I think they need a youth movement and need to try and get some draft picks but Cuban won't even consider that while Dirk is still playing.

16 May 2016 16:19:15
Celtics realistic Offseason:

Draft: We are lucky and get the 2nd Pick.

Draft Brandon Ingram.

Trade at Draftnight:

Boston get: Butler
Chicago get: Bradley, Young, Sullinger, Mavs 2016 Pick, Celtics 2016 Pick and Nets 2018 Pick + a couple 2nd Rounder.

Free Agency:

Sign: Whiteside, Lee and Perkins
Resign: Turner, Johnson (lower price) Jerebko

Celtics Team 16/ 17

PG:Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier
SG:Butler / Lee/ Hunter
SF:Crowder/ Turner/ Jerebko
PF:Ingram/ Johnson/ Mickey
C:Whiteside/ Olynyk/ Perkins

This is a realistic scenario and a great Team with a very bright future.

16 May 2016 16:57:20
Ingram at pf? That's a terrible idea. He's skinny as heck!

16 May 2016 18:09:56
Look. Winslow plays at Center for Miami in the Play offs! Its not about the Position-I am sure Ingram can play 3 and 4 . Crowder too.

16 May 2016 18:34:50
Yeah in this scenario Crowder would be the power forward.

16 May 2016 20:30:13
The NBA is so messed up. These small ball teams are terrible. The only reason they could do that is that valacunis was out. A really scoring center destroys Winslow.

14 May 2016 08:33:02
The bright Mavs future:

Mavs need no trade an have the cap to sign 3 key FA to become a contender!

Sign FA Majo
- 15m/ 2+1y. He is best season was in Dallas. He can score behind the arc and from everywhere an is a good playmaker to run with Harris at PG.

Sign FA Teletovic
- 15m/ 2+1y. He is perfect to run with Nowitzki/ Teletovic at streched PF . He can win with Mavs, score behind the arc and in the paint and humble for Rebounds as well.

Sign FA Howard or Whiteside
- 100m/ 4y, superman return or Whiteside take max. Mavs would have 4 Starters and for bench Players to strech the court and with D12 or Whiteside the perfect inside weapon! Mejri and McGee are great backups.

Resign the own opted out crowd.

Howard, Mejri, McGee
Nowitzki, Teletovic, Powell
Parsons, Anderson, Evans
Wes, Majo, Pick#46
DWil, Harris, Barea

Voila - contender! I will take the NBA league pass next season again. : )

14 May 2016 12:48:10
Who is Majo?

14 May 2016 13:03:56
The good old O. J. Mayo : )

14 May 2016 13:06:17
While reasonable, that doesn't make the Mavs a serious contender.

14 May 2016 15:11:46
Drainr actually made a somewhat reasonable post.

14 May 2016 16:41:40
The Mavs somehow got the 6th seed this year. Carlisle seems to coach his team's to overachieve. This is an improved team with Howard (assuming he can stay healthy through the playoffs) and can be a dark horse for the 3rd or 4th seed depending on where Durwnt goes this offseason.

They still won't be good enough to win a championship, but they wouldn't be an automatic out in the 2nd rd either.

15 May 2016 09:23:04
Indeed. It is not the one and only super team but a serious contender! With a very good bench.

You never know. 2011 it was also not the top of the contenders, that`s what I liked!

16 May 2016 15:42:38
Oj mayo over raymond felton don't think so we can't afford to lose him keep felton an trade harris for matt barns

Howard ian mahimni mejri
Dirk teletovic powell
Parsons Anderson matt barns
Matthews clarkson sefalosha
Dwill Felton dellanova

I like this team better trade barea an #46 with evans 2017 2nd for clarkson. dellanovas defense is key on the currys an westbrooks send future 2nd. sign ian mahimni sefalosha let's get younger now at point
Look at the young group on this team
Dellanova
Clarkson
Anderson
Powell
Parsons.

11 May 2016 19:02:56
HUGE IF for Atlanta.
Bazemore take a 1 year deal for 6 million. Number that would make him still not countowards cap space owning his early bird rights. next year reward with a big contract now ownin his full bird rights

Hawks then package Teague, splitter, and 1st to to Dallas for Dwight Powell. Salary dump and dallas can absorb the contracts. 17 million more off the books.


Next part is just dreaming. Horford must wait to sign after the free agents since owning his full bird rights. Cap Max around 92 million next season. Hawks are sitting at 44 million.
Sign Durant for 4 yrs 100million
Sign Ian Mahimi 2 yrs 14million
Sign Jeff Green 2 yrs 11million
Resign Kris Humphries 2 yrs 6 million
Resign Al Horford 4 years 90 million.
Sign mario Chalmers to vet min.
My opinion is a solid team.

Schroder, Chalmers
Bazemore, Korver, Hardaway jr
Durant, green, Sefalosha
Milsap, scott, humpries
Horford, Mahimi, muscala.

11 May 2016 19:16:31
Bazemore getting 12m+ a year.

11 May 2016 20:10:55
Let me break it down for you:

Let's assume the Hawks waive Scott and Patterson and their non-guaranteed contracts. They still have $52.7 in guaranteed contracts for next year.

The players that are free agents this summer from there team still carry cap holds with them until a team renounces that free agent. What this does is also renounce the use of their Bird Rights if they have them. You want to resign Horford using his Bird Rights which would allow them to go over the cap to resign him. He has an $18M cap hold. That puts the total salary with holds at $70.7 M.

This only leaves the Hawks with about $21.3M in cap space to sign free agents. You have to split that $21.3M in cap space between Durant, Mahinmi, Green, Bazemore, and Humphries.

Not enough cap space to do these moves. They do have exceptions they can use (the largest being the MLE @ $5.6M) .

11 May 2016 21:33:39
Hence the reason for trading teague and splitter opening up another 17 million.

11 May 2016 22:21:48
My mistake, glosses over that part.

10 May 2016 20:02:41
Celtics Masterplan

Draft Night:

Trade:

Celtics get: Butler
Bulls get: Bradley, Young and Sullinger + 2016 Nets Pick, 2016 Mavs Pick and a couple 2nd Rounder

Draft Thon Maker with Pick #23

Trade after Draft:

Celtics get:Noel
76ers get: Smart + 2018 Nets Pick


Free Agency:

Sign: Kevin Durant, Anthony Morrow and Courtney Lee

Resign:Evan Turner, Jonas Jerebko and Amir Johnson


Celtics 16/ 17 Team

PG: Thomas/ Turner/ Rozier
SG: Butler/ Lee/ Hunter
SF: Durant/ Morrow/ Jerebko
PF: Crowder/ Johnson/ Mickey
C: Noel/ Olynyk/ Maker

This Team is a Contendor. Banner 18.19.

10 May 2016 20:35:39
I love the ideas. Only thing I might change would be to not include that Brooklyn pick to Philly. I feel like we might be able to get it down with a different pick maybe even a couple picks.

How about this:

Celtics - Noel
Sixers - Smart, Hunter, Memphis 1st 2018, and Celtics 1st 2018.

10 May 2016 20:49:03
Like your Idea, but maybe the Memphis Pick is much better than the Nets Pick in 2018.

10 May 2016 20:50:40
That's almost as much considering you don't know where Brooklyn will in 2018, how about this?

Celtics- Noel
76ers- Smart, Boston 2018 1st, and Minnesota 2017 2nd.

10 May 2016 20:53:38
76ers and Bulls say no.

10 May 2016 21:21:54
Sixers are interested but ultimately I think say no at this point. Smart isn't anything special and the 2018 pick is just too far away for the current brass' patients.

10 May 2016 21:54:24
I just looked and the Memphis pick isn't until 2019.

10 May 2016 22:02:51
bulls say no. a lot of pieces, nothing to really build on:

Sully is useless to the roster
Bradley will play 25 minutes a game
They will get a 'nice' piece with brooklyn pick.
Hopefully a role player with mavs pick.

11 May 2016 14:57:24
Who says bradley plays 25 min a game? He plays 25 min if you play him 25 min. He is a very good two way player.

10 May 2016 04:53:19
Memphis goes to Rebuild - Gasol goes Boston

Celtics get: Marc Gasol

Memphis get: Avery Bradley, Jonas Jerebko and RJ Hunter + 2016 Mavs Pick, 2016 Celtics Pick, 2010 2nd Rounder from 76ers and get back there own 2018 1st Rounder


It is a good Deal for both Teams.

10 May 2016 05:12:56
That 2010 Sixers second rounder will be very valuable for the Grizzles.

10 May 2016 06:43:43
I mean the 2016 2nd Rounder. sry.

10 May 2016 11:36:56
Seven dimes for a dollar.

10 May 2016 13:18:32
Marc gasol is not worth that return. He's 31 now. Boston can't build with that.

06 May 2016 15:30:37
HOU/ PHI/ CLE

HOU get Kevin Love, Iman Shumpert and PHI 1st round pick 2016
draft Brandon Ingram
sign Rajon Rondo 4yr/ 70mil
sign
hire Frank Vogel

Pg Rondo/ Beverley
Sg Shumpert/ Dekker
Sf Ingram/ Brewer
Pf Love/ Jones/ Harrell
Ce Capela/ Motiejunas

PHI get James Harden

sign Mike Conley max
sign Harrison Barnes max

Pg Conley/ Smith
Sg Harden/ Stauskas
Sf Barnes/ Covington
Pf Saric/ Landry/ Grant
Ce Noel/ Embiid

CLE get Jahlil Okafor, Trevor Ariza and DAL 1st round pick 2016

Pg Irving/ Delly
Sg Ariza/ Smith
Sf James/ Jones/ Jefferson
Pf Thompson/ Frye
Ce Okafor/ Mozgov.

06 May 2016 19:07:24
Boston has Dal 2016 first round pick. And I also don't think that Cleveland would want to players in Thompson and Okafor clogging the lane.

06 May 2016 20:21:52
I think I hate it for everyone.

06 May 2016 15:03:31
Boston - Sacramento
bos gives up amir johnson, Bradley, olynyk, brooklyn 2018 pick, Memphis 2019 pick, 3 2nd rounders and bostons 2018 pick
sacrament gives up cousins + filler.

Boston - indy
bos gives up smart, crowder, jerebko, and hunter brooklyn 2016 Pick, Dallas pick, boston 2016 pick and 2 2nd rounders

indy gives up george

boston signs jamal crawford biannual
signs kd max contract
sign Barbosa vet min

Isaiah thomas/ rozier
Crawford/ barbosa
george/ turner
durant/ mickey
cousins/

I know that the celtics rOster gets gutted but honestly aside from Bradley, I don't see anyone else that I would really be upset about giving up. Would just need to do a better job of getting a bench.

06 May 2016 15:50:01
You wouldn't be upset about giving up Crowder?

But me personally I don't want anything to do with Cousins. Until he can prove to have a season of no drama I don't want him to come here and ruin what we are building. I get it that he has been in such an awful organization and that is what people say his behavior roots from but he was the same way in college and has always had these character issues. Yes he's a great player but that doesn't always equal team success even if he has a supporting cast.

06 May 2016 16:56:04
Honestly, wouldn't be that upset about losing crowder. I think Bradley is a lot more valuable. Crowder's achievement is overhyped. I think george serving him as a replacement would be just fine.

In regards to cousins, you might be right. I just assume a change of environment would be good like It was for Turner. But could also go the Whiteside route

roster would look something like

thomas/ rozier
Bradley/ crawford
george/ turner
durant/ olynyk
whiteside/ zeller

trade smart, crowder, johnson and both brooklyn picks.

06 May 2016 17:03:56
In this situation I keep Bradley and trade Thomas.

06 May 2016 17:38:30
Indy can get more for PG13
If that's boston's offer, we should trade him to LA for Ingram, Randle and Russell.

06 May 2016 19:05:35
But the thing with Turner was that he wasn't playing good. He never had any off the court issues or issues with coaches. He just wasn't used right.

06 May 2016 19:18:36
True GM:
You need Thomas because you need the offensive fire power: Balance of Thomas and KD on offense with George and Bradley on offense. Bradley/ Smart/ Rozier can all offer defense. It's just that Bradley offers more on both offense and defense.

Larry Legend
Bottom line man: D12 Whiteside Cousins can all produce man. But they are all also headcases. You have to go and risk it, I would like to think that Stevens can manage it and that a legitimate shot at the Championship would keep them honest. Take your pick from the three

Gasupo:
In what world is randle/ russell/ one draft pick better than crowder/ smart/ two picks?
Please explain the logic.

14 May 2016 00:49:29
Keeping Bradley and trading IT would work and better on the D Fence with Avery. Turner can be a the PG.

05 May 2016 19:17:29
Boston Celtics-Sacramento kings


Boston trades-2016 Brooklyn first round pick,2016 Dallas first round draft pick. Cleveland and Miami 2016 second round Picks.


Sacramento trades-Demarcus Cousins
Draft Dragan Bender and A. J Hammons with Brooklyn and Dallas 1st round picks



Boston signs Al Hordford 3 Yr/ $42 Million
Signs Kevin Durant 4 Yr/ $90 million
Resign Evan Turner 2 Yr/ $8 million
Jared Sullinger 2 Yr/ $4 million
Tyler Zeller 2 Yr/ $4 million

Sacramento signs Eric Gordon 2 yr/ $28 million
Eran Ilyasova 3yr/ $24 million
Dwight Powell 2r/ $3 million

Mike Malone as new head coach

Sacramento:
PG Rajon Rondo/ Darren Collison/ Seth Curry
SG Eric Gordon/ Ben McLemore/ Marco Belinelli
SF Rudy Gay/ Caron Butler/ Omri Caspi
PF Eran Ilyasova/ Dragon Bender/ Dwight Powell
C Willie Cauley-Stein/ / Kosta Koufos/ A. J Hammons


Celtics:
PG Isaiah Thomas/ Marcus Smart/ Terry Rozier
SG Avery Bradley/ Jae Crowder / RJ Hunter
SF Kevin Durant/ Evan Turner/ James Young
PF Al Hordford/ Jared Sullinger/ Jonas Jerebeko Jordan Mickey
C Demarcus Cousins/ Tyler Zeller.

05 May 2016 19:46:35
Sacramento is going to want some young players if they trade Cousins.

And Sullinger will get a lot more than $2 million per year and Horford will probably look for a 4 year deal at max, not a 3 year deal at $14 million.

05 May 2016 20:06:10
Horford is getting more than that.

05 May 2016 20:16:13
There is no way that Turner or Sullinger take 2 million year to stay. They will both be getting offers close to 10 million a year.

Also I don't think the Kings do that deal. They would want some players along with those draft picks and would most likely want some of Smart, Crowder, Bradley.

But if they did do that trade we would not have enough money to throw max deals or whatever you are saying Durant and Horford get. Because we would be bringing in upwards of 16 million with Cousins and only have enough to sign 2 max deals once we let go of Johnson.

05 May 2016 20:26:05
I love it. But 0 realistic.

05 May 2016 20:31:42
nice effort but not happening.

04 May 2016 13:29:11
Lakers

Lakers-Mavericks

Lakers get Dwight Powell sign and trade

Mavericks get Lou Williams

Lakers sign Demar Derozan max
sign Hassan Whiteside max
sign Mario Chalmers

draft Brandon Ingram

Russell-Chalmers-Huertas
Derozan-Clarkson
Ingram-Brown
Randle-Nance
Whiteside-Powell-Black.

04 May 2016 15:52:43
Don't think the Mavs give up one of their few young assets.

03 May 2016 18:41:40
Another awkward offseason for Mavs i think this will happen most likely

Dirk sign 1 last year for 8mil

Deron Williams for 3yrs/ 33mil

Raymond Felton for 2yrs/ 14mil

sign Jeff Green 3yrs/ 27mil

sign Roy Hibbert 2yrs/ 14mil

sign Eric Gordon 1yr/ 6mil

Pg Williams/ Barea/ Felton
Sg Matthews/ Gordon
Sf Green/ Anderson
Pf Nowitzki/ Powell/ Villanueva
Ce Hibbert/ Mejri

but then again they'll hunt for playoffs.

03 May 2016 20:22:26
I think that both Williams and Dirk will take less than that so that they can get more talent around them.

03 May 2016 20:52:24
And I think Gordon will at least get a 2yr deal and about 8m a year.

03 May 2016 20:59:58
If Cuban wasn't such an a$$, they have enough cap to sign two max contracts if everyone opts out.

03 May 2016 23:30:55
let's be honest that is the route Dallas is going.

03 May 2016 14:52:56
PHI/ BOS/ CHI

PHI get Marcus Smart, Kelly Olynyk and 14th pick
-draft Ben Simmons and Denzel Valentine
-try to max out Bradley Beal if not try Kent Bazemore

Pg Smart/ Smith/ Canaan
Sg Beal or Bazemore/ Stauskas
Sf Covington/ Grant/ Valentine
Pf Simmons/ Saric
Ce Noel/ Olynyk/ Embiid

BOS get Jimmy Butler and Taj Gibson
-sign Hassan Whiteside max
-if can go for Durant go all out if not stay put

Pg Thomas/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Hunter
Sf Butler/ Turner/ Young
Pf Sullinger/ Gibson
Ce Whiteside/ Zeller

CHI get Jahlil Okafor, Jae Crowder, BKN 1st 2016, BKN 1st 2018 and DAL 1st 2016
-draft Buddy Hield

Pg Rose/ Moore
Sg Hield/ Dunleavy/ Holiday
Sf Crowder/ McDermott/ Snell
Pf Portis/ Mirotic
Ce Okafor/ Noah/ Felicio.

03 May 2016 15:07:35
So the Celtics give up 3 rotation players, two high lottery picks and another No. 1 for Butler?

I don't think so.

03 May 2016 15:20:07
That's not too bad from Sixers perspective. I think they'll want more out of a trade of OK4 than Smart. They'll want an experienced NBA guard that has enough star power to show the league's free agents that the Sixers are viable. Smart doesn't do that. Knight or Bledsoe from the Suns do that. But not Smart. So I'd have to decline this from the Sixers' perspective, at least until I knew if I could get the kind of player I wanted.

03 May 2016 16:05:21
I think smart never got a real chance being a back up plus Chicago get to much.

03 May 2016 16:07:07
That's like a paul George trade take out one of crowder, hield, or okafor.

02 May 2016 20:22:41
If Dirk takes less to open up more salary space.

Dallas:

*Assuming Parsons leaves and Deron Williams takes player option/ signs for around same value


Let go: Pachulia, Felton, Villanueva, McGee
Resign: Mejri: whatever his value is, Dalembert: vet min, Powell (qualifying offer)
Sign: Harrison Barnes and Hassan Whiteside: both max

Williams/ Barea
Matthews/ Harris
Barnes/ Andersen
Dirk/ Powell
Whiteside/ Mejri.

02 May 2016 20:51:02
They definitely need too make a run at top level younger players this offseason. They need to start thinking about someone who is going to take over after Dirk. They aren't a team based on stability and they always look to play the free agent game and never really get that prize.

But as for what your deal is, I honestly don't see Barnes leaving Golden State. But I also expect both Williams and Parsons to resign for lesser contracts too so that they can make runs at free agents.

02 May 2016 18:37:07
BOS/ HOU/ BKN

BOS get Brook Lopez and James Harden

Pg Thomas/ Smart
Sg Harden/ Hunter
Sf Crowder/ Turner
Pf Sullinger/ Jerebko
Ce Lopez/ Zeller

HOU get Avery Bradley, BKN pick 2016, DAL pick 2016, Jarrett Jack, Kelly Olynyk and future 1st from BOS

Pg Beverley/ Jack
Sg Bradley/ Hield (3rd)
Sf Ariza/ Brewer/ Dekker
Pf Olynyk/ Jones
Ce Capela/ Motiejunas

BKN get 2018 pick back, Terry Rozier and non-guaranteed contract of Amir Johnson.

02 May 2016 20:55:32
No thanks on Harden coming here. He's not a team player at all and that's something that Boston is known for.

 
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