28 Aug 2015 19:57:57
Morris for PJ3, Sully, Turner
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28 Aug 2015 19:57:57
28 Aug 2015 19:31:54
Chi gets PJ Tucker, Terrance Ross, Nikola Jokic
Pho gets DeMar DeRozan, Nikola Mirotic, Tony Snell, Kenneth Faried
Tor gets Eric Bledsoe, Taj Gibson
Den gets Doug McDermott, Markieff Morris
28 Aug 2015 17:54:33
Phi - okc
Phi - c Payne s Novak
Okc - T wroten 2017 or 2018 first rd pick
28 Aug 2015 19:30:10
No chance. A first rounder for Payne and Novak. Plus Tony wroten who was a first rounder too? No. Chance
28 Aug 2015 17:45:17
Por - phi
Por - T wroten 2nd rd pick
Phi - cj McCollum
28 Aug 2015 18:09:22
He'll yes from Philly
28 Aug 2015 18:59:33
And hell no from Portland. Mccollum has a much higher ceiling than wroten.
28 Aug 2015 19:30:59
I think McCollum has proven nothing to warrant him being better then anyone.
28 Aug 2015 17:39:14
Mem - lac
Mem - L Stephenson
Lac - j green
28 Aug 2015 18:12:47
Not a chance.
28 Aug 2015 18:43:10
Horrible. The Grizzlies don't need Stephenson and the Clips would have to give up more
28 Aug 2015 15:12:04
SAC - MIL - DEN
SAC get: Kenneth Faried, John Henson, Randy Foye & Tyler Ennis
MIL get: WCS
DEN get: OJ Mayo, Miles Plumlee, & MIL Future 1st DP
28 Aug 2015 14:54:37
SAC get Jose Calderon, 2018 1st round pick & Cleanthony Early
NYK get Rajon Rondo
28 Aug 2015 18:14:06
I wouldn't trade Calderon for Rondo, not to mention adding a pick and Early.
28 Aug 2015 14:53:41
Cavs get sullinger zeller
Celtics get Thompson
Cavs get granger 2nd
Pistons get osman pointer Harris
Irving Williams dellevedova
Smith shumpert granger
James Jefferson jones
Love sullinger varejao
Mozgov zeller kaun
28 Aug 2015 14:52:20
Bucks get Morris & Crawford
Heat get Mayo & cj Wilcox
Suns get McRoberts, Bayless & heat 1st
Clippers get C. Anderson, Gutierrez & bucks 2nd
Parker can get healthy and then they are a deep team set up to be able to stay together. Morris has a good contract and Crawford gives them more shooting and versatility.
Mayo plays when Wade is out and saves Miami money.
They get a stretch 4 in McBob and a 1st to replace a guy who both sides want gone.
Get money savings and another big who has a great history with Paul. Crawford is unnecessary with new additions. If bird man can't play anymore, buy him out and save more money.
28 Aug 2015 17:07:25
Clippers would trade Crawford for a better big, Anderson is old and I don't see them trading him for that little.
28 Aug 2015 14:52:15
trade deadline deal
MEM acquire Danilo Gallinari & JJ Hickson
DEN acquire Jeff Green (exp), Troy Daniels, 2016 1st from MEM & 2016 2nd from CHA
CHA get Randy Foye
come playoff time, MEM might need some more depth especially on big man to lessen minutes rendered by Zbo and Marc, Hickson and Wright would be a good back up for them. Danilo adds the needed shooting rather than Jeff Green might do.
DEN extended Gallinari but they can still use him as their main trading chip, they get an expiring contract, young guard and picks for big contracts
CHA might need some veteran scoring off the bench, Foye can provide some scoring maybe about 10-15points in any given night
28 Aug 2015 16:55:03
Where is Jeremy Lamb with the Hornets?
28 Aug 2015 05:50:22
Bucks get Demarcus Cousins
Kings get Jabari Parker, OJ Mayo, and John Henson
Pf. G. Monroe/ D.Inglis
Sf. G. Antekoupo/ C. Copeland
C. D. Cousins/ M. Plumlee
SG. K. Middleton/ R. Vaughn
Pg. M.Carter Williams/ G. Vasquez
Pf. J. Parker/ J. Henson
Sf. R. Gay/ C. Butler
C. W. Cauleystein/ K. Koufus
Sg. O. Mayo/ B. McLemore
Pg. R. Rondo/ D. Collison
28 Aug 2015 08:10:24
Too much for Cousins.
28 Aug 2015 14:56:27
Monroe is playing Center. Kidd does not play two bigs together.
Henson and Monroe for Boogie is more likely.
28 Aug 2015 15:34:18
See now this trades sense for cousins.
Bucks are giving away a ton but They already have a guy that plays Parker's best position. Oj mayo still has some game and hensons a nice replacement for cousins.
Bucks a guy that would fit perfect with the team they're trying to build. They loss Parker but as of now he's really a back up on that team due to talent in front of him unless he plays out of position which he probably will end up doing. Oj mayo won't kill them if they lost him and hensons replaced.
It's a big value deal but a deal that works for both teams.
28 Aug 2015 17:24:36
I don't think cousins and Monroe can play together but if they can make it work team look good on paper
28 Aug 2015 04:14:43
Lal - hou
Lal - c brewer
Hou - n young sacre r kelly
28 Aug 2015 08:11:57
Houston will probably not do it.
28 Aug 2015 14:41:34
Yeah I don't rockets do it. The whole thing to get rid of young right now would be not to take more salary I'm return but there going to hold on to him for one more year
27 Aug 2015 23:46:45
PHX - DET - NOLA
PHX get: Ryan Anderson
DET get: Markieff Morris
NOLA get: PJ Tucker & Future DET 1st dp
28 Aug 2015 13:45:07
Detroit is not going to trade a first for Morris. They already have a logjam at the SF position with the other Morris and the rookie Johnson. Also KCP does see time at the SF when they go small. So no future first for Morris plus he is a head case.
28 Aug 2015 15:57:27
PHX doesn't want Anderson. that ship has sailed. They want a rebouding 4 in place of Morris. Anderson ain't it.
28 Aug 2015 18:14:31
^i think Phoenix is in better need of a scoring PF rather than rebounding, You have Chandler/Len who are defnsive centers who can rebound the ball
27 Aug 2015 22:32:15
Lopez Calderon Galloway
D-Will Harris Pachulia Felton-buyout
28 Aug 2015 08:20:58
Sooooooo bad for NYK. Trading a very good starting center and young Beverly type of a guard for who? Always hurt D Will, good pg in Harris, nice backup in Zaza who can' t protect the rim and Felton, who became bad few years ago and still is.
27 Aug 2015 21:17:05
CHI get Kelly Olynyk & Avery Bradley
ATL get Joakim Noah, Evan Turner & pick from BOS
BOS get Al Horford & Kent Bazemore
- send Sullinger & 2nd to TOR for Terrence Ross
27 Aug 2015 20:50:18
MIN - PHI - POR
MIN get: Chris Kaman (exp) & Future Protected 1st DP (PHI)
PHI get: Ricky Rubio & Gerald Henderson (exp)
POR get: Nikola Pekovic
28 Aug 2015 08:23:09
So Portland gives good young sg in Henderson and Kaman for Pek? You shall not pass.
28 Aug 2015 14:05:57
Wolves pass easily
28 Aug 2015 14:16:50
Honestly don't think any team does this, Portland wants young players to help rebuild, Pek is not that
Sixers wouldn't want Rubio's contract
And the Wolves aren't trading a key piece in Rubio for a draft pick, they are trying to win soon, and this absolutely step them back.
And you still think Lavine can play point guard? You really must not have seen how bad he was there last year
28 Aug 2015 14:44:00
For the wolves trading Rubio it would not be considered a salary dump like it is there. They could get value for him
28 Aug 2015 16:22:21
If Rubio could shoot is like this trade more but he can't. He'd be a liability on the offensive end for spacing reasons. So Sixers pass
27 Aug 2015 20:34:37
Lakers get Hibbert Lou-Will Kelly
Knicks get Lopez Calderon Early
Knicks need of Lou is equal Lakers need for Lopez. Hibbert is triangle type of center. Calderon value outside of the triangle. Russell and Clarkson are the future at PG. Calderon better mentor at PG than Lou-Will. Early > Kelly and that should even up the Calderon < Lou-Will. Lopez value to Lakers over Hibbert as far fitting might serve a better purpose keeping Lou-Will rather having Calderon as a mentor. Lou-Will is not facilitator nor pg who creates for others. Which is fine the triangle offense
28 Aug 2015 08:19:47
Give not get
28 Aug 2015 08:28:56
The problem is that Hibbert is in decline and Lopez has played good seasons in Portland so their value is no the same. He must first show he can still play well or it is a no no. And there is Kelly. He is soo useless. I don' t find a single thing to like about him. Mullens 2.0
27 Aug 2015 19:15:11
PHX get Gerald Henderson & Gorgui Dieng
MIN get 1st round pick from PHX, 2 2nd round picks from POR & Chris Kaman (cut)
POR get Kevin Martin & Markieff Morris
27 Aug 2015 19:45:37
Wolves aren't trading Dieng for that
27 Aug 2015 20:16:12
I have no idea how I feel about this trade. Phoenix gets solid value, but gives up what probably ends up being a late lottery pick, a heavy price.
Minny gets decent value for Martin. Not sure if they get enough for both Martin and Dieng, but it's close. I also don't see why you cut Kaman, keep the vet around to be another mentor.
Portland gets great value, but ends up needing to either flip Morris, or trade one of their other bigs. All 5 of those guys deserve minutes. And I'd love to pick up Martin on the cheap to flip him at the trade deadline for a package like Denver got for afflalo last year, maybe a mid to late first.
27 Aug 2015 20:22:00
I would stick with Henderson and not Martin and why with Davis and most of all Vonleh you would want to have Morris?
28 Aug 2015 14:10:48
The Wolves have said they want a 1st for Martin, Dieng has way more value than Martin, I'm not sure that return is even close to enough for Dieng, let alone adding Martin.
Plus the Wolves aren't going to give a young player for a draft pick, that defeats the purpose of rebuilding
27 Aug 2015 19:07:30
MIN get Roy Hibbert (exp)
LAL get Gorgui Dieng, Nikola Pekovic & 2nd round pick 2016
27 Aug 2015 19:15:06
That's more of a return than the Lakers have up to get Hibbert.
27 Aug 2015 19:48:06
Wolves aren't giving up Dieng to get rid of Pekovic's contract, expecially not to get Hibbert, who has practically zero value
27 Aug 2015 23:57:48
Lakers got Hibert for a 2019 second round pick which has switched 3 different teams. No way Timberwolves do that
27 Aug 2015 18:15:07
TOR receives Taj Gibson, Tony Snell and Kings (lottery protected pick)
CHI receives Demar DeRozen
27 Aug 2015 21:38:31
I think it would have to be Mirotic
27 Aug 2015 16:13:52
DEN - PHX - TOR
DEN get: Terrence Ross & PJ Tucker
PHX get: Kenneth Faried
TOR get: Markieff Morris & Wilson Chandler
27 Aug 2015 16:33:49
Soooo Demarre Carrol isn't starting anymore? lol
27 Aug 2015 17:08:14
No need to include Chandler
27 Aug 2015 17:19:47
Denver should get more.
27 Aug 2015 16:03:36
DET-WSH simple deal
DET get Martell Webster & 2nd rd pick
WSH get Brandon Jennings
DET get another shooter
WSH get what could finally be a reliable 6th man
28 Aug 2015 01:28:30
Change the second to a first.
28 Aug 2015 13:48:05
No first and no Webster when was the last year he had a good statistical season. The analytics doesn't back up this trade. Its not a good idea to add to the logjam at the SF and SG. He won't see the court. Detroit should wait on Jennings and if they want to trade him do so at the deadline if he proves he is healthy they will get a lot more.
27 Aug 2015 15:58:39
Bulls get : Rudy Gay & Demarcus Cousins
Kings get : Joakim Noah & Jimmy Butler
Sf J. Butler
27 Aug 2015 16:36:26
I'd rather keep Butler, but find a way to get Cousins.
Maybe Noah and Gibson/Mirotic for Cousins? If that's even enough.
27 Aug 2015 19:58:40
The Kings hang up the phone laughing.
27 Aug 2015 15:48:48
Kings get : Al Horford & Avery Bradley
Celtics get : Willey Cauley-Stein
Hawks get : Tyler Zeller & Rudy Gay
Kings get a defensive guard and create what would be one of the most dominating frontcourt duo in Al and Demarcus
Celtics get their future defensive center
Hawks trade an expiring Al Horford which they are not sure of resigning him and get their SF to start and a young center
** maybe Celtics or Hawks should add a 2nd going to SAC
27 Aug 2015 19:59:48
The Kings aren't trading WCS, Cousins or Gay. Everyone is just going to have to deal with it.
28 Aug 2015 02:24:00
You mean Boogie instead of Cauley-Stein.
27 Aug 2015 01:42:02
SAC - ATL - CHI
SAC get: Paul Millsap & Nikola Mirotic
ATL get: Demarcus Cousins, Tony Snell & Aaron Brooks
CHI get: Rudy Gay & Dennis Schroeder
27 Aug 2015 05:19:39
Bulls say yes right away
27 Aug 2015 05:34:21
Chicago needs to give something else up probably to sac, schroeder>>Brooks and gay>Mirotic and Snell.
27 Aug 2015 05:42:44
Atlanta gets too much & Sacramento doesn't get enough for Boogie.
27 Aug 2015 07:02:06
Wtf??? Sac trades Cousins and Gay for Millsap and Mitotic lmfao!!!
27 Aug 2015 14:30:23
-change Mirotic for Noah so Sac at least gets an all-star center.
-add Schroeder to Sac and let Bulls keep Snell.
27 Aug 2015 01:36:17
Boston gets 2nd round pick
Utah gets Olynyk
Boston needs to get rid of someone and a second rounder for a player who'll probably not play much isn't bad.
Utah could use a skilled floor spacing bigman to pair with either favors or gobert. Olynyk is exactly that.
27 Aug 2015 15:19:58
Olynyk won't be traded for a draft pick, he'll be part of a bigger trade that may include a draft pick in return but to trade for a 2nd rd. pick isn't going to happen. He was a 1st rd. #13 pick that can be a very serviceable player in the right condition for the right team.
27 Aug 2015 15:48:41
Olynic should start.
26 Aug 2015 19:23:45
Realistic Knicks Trade
Clippers get Jose Calderon and a future 2nd Round Draft Pick
Knicks get Jamal Crawford
The Clippers are loaded with bench depth and don't have a need for Crawford after their offseason acquisitions and can use a more reliable backup for Chris Paul.
The Knicks need bench scoring and more depth at the SG position.
What do you guys think?
27 Aug 2015 05:43:29
Thought you said realistic? No one wants Calderon.
27 Aug 2015 06:02:24
LAC have depth at the SG position and have Rivers & Prigioni to backup Paul. They are very thin in all 3 F positions though besides their starters. They should focus on flipping Crawford for front court help, not more guards.
27 Aug 2015 17:30:10
I would keep Calderon. Both are bad defenders. Crawford is good ofense and nothing else. Healthy Calderon is a good 3 point shooter and good passer. At sg we have Afflalo, we have Sasha and can use Galloway and Grant and even Calderon at times. We can try Thanasis and maybe Early so at sg we are good. It will be better to have him as a mentor for Grant and Gallo as future pg.
28 Aug 2015 04:05:48
Lac should swap j Crawford for a pf/c
26 Aug 2015 18:56:50
Saw this somewhere, thought I would bring it up here.
1st round from nets this year
1st round from nets in 2017
1st. The salaries are spot on.
2nd. BOS already has too many players on their roster, so they would have to cut/trade anyway. And what an amazing return they would get.
3rd. SAC gets a great quality return back, plus a couple of first rounders that should be top 10-15 this year, and top 20 in 2017. Also pairs Rondo with a couple of guys he has played with before.
Lastly. SAC would have a DEEP bench, and could be a very dangerous team.
It's a win win.
26 Aug 2015 19:17:11
I like it the return for cousins. Take out even turner he's not a very good player. Maybe one more first would lock it up for the Kings.
Of course this is only assuming cousins wants to leave. If not this trade won't happen.
26 Aug 2015 19:21:47
Depth does you no good if you're not a playoff contender. That starting lineup gets dramatically worse taking Cousins out and replacing him with Sullinger (injury prone).
WCS or Koufos
They'd be worse off than they are now and there currently not a playoff contender.
26 Aug 2015 22:45:20
Here's my problem.
All those Boston players have already played with Rondo and were unsuccessful. I don't think Rudy Gay being with them would change anything
27 Aug 2015 01:13:23
Pull back Bradley and Turner and give them Smart.
27 Aug 2015 12:49:17
Bradley and Turner for Gay
27 Aug 2015 12:50:15
I don't think cousins is the centerpiece of a contender and hope Boston doesn't pull the trigger. All reports read that he alienates teammates and it doesn't look like he could lead a team. I feel he is destined to be a melo and demand a high price for little to no results for his career. Cannot give up smart for him in any way. WAY to much potential as a leader. Cousins is a good player but could not begin to replace the leadership and future potential to Boston would have to give up. The Knicks gave up a similar package for melo and how has that worked out for them?
27 Aug 2015 15:46:11
Boogie and Melo are 2 very different players. Melo needs 40+ touches a game to be efficient where as DC will be the big man and destroy big men in the East. He won't win the West, so moving to the East will make him an MVP caliber player.
28 Aug 2015 01:30:34
It's not about his ability as a ball player. He would dominate the east but he does not elevate those around him. That's why I compare him to melo. No leadership skills and no one (except rondo) seems to want to play with him. If the best player on a team doesn't get along with others or at least make them better then how are they going to lead you to a championship? I wouldn't put the future of my franchise on his shoulders and expect championship contention. Celtics would become a top 3-4 team but would never win the east. To many other teams/superstars want rings more than boogie seems to.
I would chase Paul George and try to draft a poetl next year. Having a top 10 wing and a defensive big is more beneficial in today's game than a top 5 center that wants to play power forward.
28 Aug 2015 04:07:44
The draft picks are great but not one of those players have all star talent.
28 Aug 2015 14:48:42
@anothersmith I think players didn't sign with the Kings because they didn't know if cousins would be traded or not. There organization is dysfunctional. On the Paul George trade I don't think pacers would trade him
26 Aug 2015 17:16:30
Here you go Philly fans. These are honestly the only offers I'd entertain, and to be honest, depending how the Lakers play/develop this year, I still think I prefer to keep Clarkson, Russell, & Randle together.
PHI: Clarkson & '16 2nd rd pick
LAL: Covington & '16 LAL own 1st rd pick back
26 Aug 2015 18:29:26
Lol, Clarkson for Noel. What a homer.
26 Aug 2015 19:25:24
Noel averaged 9.9 points & 8.1 rebounds on that team. Clarkson would average 18pts 5rebs & 5asts an that same team.
26 Aug 2015 19:32:37
No from Sixers. lakers fans have got to give clarkson time to prove his actual value. Outside of la no one cared much about clarkson a number. I personally like his game and think there's more there but I highly doubt you can give him nerlens Noel type hype. He's just a second rounders who's played above his expected level on a bad team with zero weapons. Next year however, if he still plays at this amazing level with Kobe russle randle and hibbert with him then Thai value maybe warranted. But not until that happens.
26 Aug 2015 20:39:09
Noel is better than clarkson
27 Aug 2015 05:22:12
Tregib Noel played on a team with no weapons. It was anyone who scores. Clarkson played with Lin boozer and young and Ellington. Just because he's a second rounder doesn't mean he's automatically a bad player.
27 Aug 2015 13:53:26
Once again the Laker homers prove my point. There are two people in this country that could honestly argue Clarkson for Noel.
Noel for Clarkson is laughable, absolutely laughable. That's a joke, right? And King doesn't disappoint, throwing out his usual disjointed "straw man" argument that because Clarkson was a 2nd rounder somehow others would automatically see him as a bad player- a point which nobody has ever, ever made or even thought.
Overall, I'd say the Sixers say no to these serious and profound offers for Noel and/or Covington since they want to keep their young core together and let them grow.
27 Aug 2015 14:51:33
Philly if you actually looked at what Tregib said he said that clarkson was just a second rounder who played above his expected level. Clarkson was a mid first pick mid season in college till his dad died and his number slipped causing teams to not take him not knowing if he'd struggle. Funny how you said I never read your post when you didn't read my on Tregibs clearly.
27 Aug 2015 14:52:27
You mock me for "bashing" on the sixers so you bash on me. What a real man you are. Childish act tough all you want
27 Aug 2015 15:27:38
Philly = bust city.
Noel, bust. Embiid, bust. The only viable draft pick who contributed was MCW and they traded him away.
27 Aug 2015 15:32:58
Don't get caught up in their draft position. Answer me this:
Would Clarkson have averaged at least 15 ppg, 5 rpg & 5 apg on the 76ers last season? A team that was near the bottom in points per 100 possessions. A team that Noel was on and only managed 9.9 ppg & 8.1 rpg with no other relevant PF or center on the team?
Look if you tell me you value a defensive big man over a young athletic guard who can score, I can at least respect that. But to sit here and say Clarkson for Noel is a joke is just not true. Noel is extremely limited offensively.
I wouldn't push for either of these trades, but these would be the oy ones I'd say they have to consider if they trade Clarkson to Philly.
27 Aug 2015 16:02:57
To the post about clarkson playing with weapons. I have to disagree. Lins been overrated since he left ny. Boozer is way past his prime and ellingtons and unknown. Young we talked about before. Bad shot taker and all. Talent wise is think they were on similar teams.
Clarkson is a point guard so naturally scoring is much easier for guards then centers as they get to touch the ball every play. However, Noel was never going to be a offensive superstar from day one. He is however one of the best help defensive bigs in the league already and he has proven that. He led all big in steals and was top ten in blocks in his rookie year. Clarkson a number were pedestrian in almost every department.
That being said I like clarkson still. He pass the "eye test" as some people say. He's really athletic and can dribble well for his height. Shot looks decent at this point as well. I think lakers should hold onto him and see if he can play with russel. If he can't at least hope he puts up some Nice numbers and trade him later. I think he has to prove he's not the 46th pick In a draft. That takes more then one season to prove. Lakers should be happy they have him but can't expect the league to take notice of him yet.
28 Aug 2015 00:07:12
But Noel needs to add a lot of strength if he plays center or power goon on forward. Lin boozer Ellington young play no defense there and only provide offense. Wroten was hurt for most of the year. Sims was the backup center. Cannan and smith were your point guards Covington and Thompson shot threes. Grant and Sampson not great shooting numbers. Noel only averaged 10 points for a team that let's anyone score the ball. Your going to tell me that Lin young boozer and Ellington would not shoot the ball more than sims cannan smith Covington or anyone on the team. Your answer should be no. Noel on the lakers would probably only get his points off rebounds. Clarkson was able to play good for a poor defensive team and more offensive oriented team. Like laker said if clarkson was on that team he could average 16 5 and 5 from day one. I agree with what you said the lakers will do with clarkson and see how him and Russell will do though I think there games complement each other well
28 Aug 2015 01:11:38
Can't. Stop. Laughing. At Newlakerdynasty.
You're such a homer you don't even recognize it in yourself. Its amazing.
Would Clarkson have averaged 15ppg 5rb and 5assist for the Sixers, you ask? I don't know. But what I do know it that he didn't average 15ppg 5/5 for the Lakers. He averaged 11.9/3.5/3.2
You guys have inflated your hometown players so much in your own heads that you don't even know what the facts are anymore.
And even if he did average what you think, I still wouldn't trade for him. I want to keep my young guys together and watch them grow.
28 Aug 2015 14:51:18
Philly I find it funny how clarkson when starting averaged 15 5 and 5. If he averaged 25 minutes on the sixers like he did which make his stats go down he could get 15 5 and 5 on them. If he played 30 minutes plus like he did after the all star break he could get the sixers 18 6 and 6. So your facts are wrong
28 Aug 2015 15:23:11
Phillyrich here are the facts since you don't know what you're talking about.
As a starter for the Lakers (started last 38 games), he averaged 15.8 ppg 5 apg 4.2 rpg 1.1 spg and shot 45.8%. He would have averaged that for the season for Philly no problem playing on a worse team that cannot score and in the East playing against bad quality teams more often.
I get his overall season stats are lower, but you can't just look at numbers to get the whole story. His role changed the 2nd half of the season.
Again, Noel averaging 10 points 8 rebounds in a team that could not score and was begging for offense. He's a good defender, one of the better ones in his first season. Clarkson as a starter for the Lakers put up numbers comparable to Lowry in his first season. Tell me what I inflated?
28 Aug 2015 16:37:19
Noel average 13 and 10 post all star break. He did it without the ball hogging of mcw. Yes mcw put up that exact stat line you predict clarkson would average. And the Sixers traded him because his usage was too high for the production. Noel didn't thrive with him during that time. It was only after he left Noel number improved. 13 people and 10 rebounds for a great defensive player show how much value he has. That's better then most of the center in the league right now. Will that translate to pf I'm not sure yet. But I do know most of his points were hustle points, alley oops, and rebounded dunks post allstar break. Those are easily translateable onto any team in the league.
My point being that Noel's value is much higher then clarksons. Noel has lived up to his high hype. Clarkson had zero hype and played well. Both guys have a long way to go to be at their primes. Well just have to wait and see who ends up higher but right now. No one in this league is trading Noel for clarkson.
28 Aug 2015 19:44:14
"Would Clarkson have averaged at least 15 ppg, 5 rpg & 5 apg on the 76ers last season?"
There are no qualifiers in this statement. There is no indication that the intent of that statement was to qualify stats for Clarkson as a starter. That statement can clearly be read as a full season stat without qualification as a starter. Once again, you guys are twisting your own facts or at the very least miscommunicating. Only you guys would feel it appropriate to use partial stats without communicating your intent to do so, and compare to someone else's full stats, then mock the person who pointed this out when you are in the wrong.
What you should have responded was:
"Hey Phillyrich, you're right. What we meant to say was "as a starter" he averaged 15.8/5/4.2. We recognize that he was more comfortable as a player and progressed as the season went on like many rookies do. We also see the same progression for Noel, who was allowed to be more involved in the offense after MCW was traded and averaged upwards of 14ppg, 11rb, 2blocks and 2assista per game in March before getting banged up and shut down. Damn Phillyrich, Noel was better towards the end of the year than we thought. Thanks for making us look up his stats the way we looked up Clarkson's stats and compare them apples to apples. You're the man, Phillyrich."
But instead, you compared full season stats for Noel and partial season stats for Clarkson. That's an unfair comparison since we all know many rookies progress as the season goes on. That's the case for Noel as well as Clarkson. All you had to do was qualify your statement and/or recognize that Noel also improved as the season went on.
Just take a look at your past comments. You both say I have no idea what I"m saying, that my stats are wrong, and that I don't know the facts. But you both make sure to note "as a starter" in those new comments when you did not previously. This is on you, fellas.
25 Aug 2015 22:34:33
Jones, Smith and Williams
Johnson, Parker, and Wright
25 Aug 2015 22:54:04
How about Brown and Green for White and Black?
25 Aug 2015 23:46:01
Those are some of the most common last names. Could you include the teams or first names at least please?
26 Aug 2015 00:36:03
26 Aug 2015 04:32:56
Thompson, Brown, and Davis
Miller, Davis, and Jackson
26 Aug 2015 14:13:18
This was supposed to be funny but it wasn't
26 Aug 2015 22:44:05
Trolling the site. Not funny and really wish the mods would clean it up.
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