10 Feb 2016 03:02:07
Top 20 Unrestricted FA and where they will go (No player Options)
1. Kevin Durant 4 yr Max Lakers
2. Al Horford 4 yr 107 Mil Magic
3. Hassan Whiteside 4 yr Max Lakers
4. Mike Conley 4 yr 80 Mil Knicks
5. Nic Batum 3 yr 58 Mil Thunder
6. Dwayne Wade 3 yr 45 Mil Heat
7. Rajon Rondo 3 yr 42 Mil Nets
8. Al Jefferson 2 yr 20 Mil Mavericks
9. Joakim Noah 3 yr 27 Mil Hawks
10. Ryan Anderson 3 yr 33 Mil Pistons
11. Luol Deng 2 yr 18 Mil Clippers
12. Joe Johnson 1 yr 10 Mil Hawks
13. Zaza Pachulia 2 yr 14 Mil Mavericks
14. Brandon Jennings 1 yr 6 Mil Pelicans
15. Evan Turner 1 yr 4 Mil Thunder
16. Jeff Green 2 yr 13 Mil Grizz
17. Jamal Crawford 2 yr 10 Mil Suns
18. Roy Hibbert 3 yr 18 Mil Hornets
19. Eric Gordon 2 yr 12 Mil Lakers
20. Timofey Mozgov 1 yr 8 Mil Bucks.
10 Feb 2016 03:56:29
As much as I would love durant, pretty much no shot at getting him.
1. DeMarcus Cousins
2. Andre Drummond
3. Karl Anthony Towns
4. Nik Vucevic
5. Marc Gasol
6. Dwight Howard
7. Rudy Gobert
8. DeAndre Jordan
9. Hassan Whiteside
10. Tim Duncan
11. Al Horford
12. Greg Monroe
13. Pau Gasol
14. Jonas Valenciunas
15. Jahlil Okafor
16. Brook Lopez
17. Tristan Thompson
18. Al Jefferson
19. Steven Adams
20. Marcin Gortat
21. Robin Lopez
22. Nikola Jokic
23. Tyson Chandler
24. Ed Davis
25. Roy Hibbert
26. Zaza Pachulia
27. Ian Manhimi
28. Jared Sullinger
29. Andrew Bogut
30. Omer Asik.
09 Feb 2016 14:47:22
Sorry but Zaza Pachulia is better than Tyson Chandler. I'd take Jordan and Whiteside over Gobert all day.
09 Feb 2016 14:54:30
Zaza should be higher.
09 Feb 2016 17:03:37
Rudy Gobert is overrated in my opinion. At least on that list.
09 Feb 2016 20:32:00
Vucevic way too high.
09 Feb 2016 22:47:24
we get it kmpg23.you are a magic fan, but seriously, that's just ridiculous. Ignore the fact that the magic aren't that good as a whole, Vuecvic isn't top 10 in PER among centers.
If you asked an unbiased group to rank just these 7 centers, I doubt vucevic is higher than 6, most likely 7.
But you honestly put him as the 4th best in the league and better than all of these? I mean, that's just a tad ridiculous no?
09 Feb 2016 23:46:56
knicks if i could rank that 7 it would be
08 Feb 2016 22:02:48
So with all this talk about changing the rule on the hack-a-shaq. I wanna know what people think about it.
Personally I think that they need to address and change this. This "play" has, yes been effective and strategic has made the game almost bearable to watch at some points. teams are doing it so often that it stops the game flow and takes teams and players out of the game. I get that it is the players own fault for not being able to hit free throws. But come on at what point does it get to be too much?
09 Feb 2016 13:17:06
This strategy has to be stopped. I'm surprised the Players' Association hasn't stepped in yet. The logical conclusion to this strategy is that certain players- high salary players- will be essentially forced from the game.
Intentional fouls of this nature become "technical fouls" and can be shot by anyone on the floor at the time of the foul. Ball is awarded back to the team that was fouled. After 3 of these fouls in any one game again, the team that is fouled also has the option to request a 10 second run off of the game clock.
Second, Houston Coach Bickerstaff should have been fined for what he made KJ McDaniels do- going out and intentionally fouling 6 times. That was clearly against the best interest of the sport and he embarrassed McDaniels.
09 Feb 2016 18:08:25
I agree with most of it except the run of part. its making a joke of the game and like you said its embarrassing players
07 Feb 2016 21:28:22
What do you guys think are the top biggest regrets of the draft since 2003? for me
1. POR - 2007, drafting Oden over Durant
2. MIN - 2009, passing on Stephen Curry twice (#5 Rubio, #6 Flynn, #7 Curry)
3. DET - 2003, Darko Milicic over Melo, Wade or Bosh (well they are a serious contender that year)
4. CHI - 2006, trading #2 pick Lamarcus Aldridge to #4 pick Tyrus Thomas
5. MEM - 2009, drafting Hasheem Thabeet ahead of Harden and Curry
6. MIL - 2005, drafting Andrew Bogut no.1 overall. There's Chris Paul or maybe even Deron Williams at that point (well, Andrew has just won a ring)
** special mention are MEM trading Love for Mayo in 2008 then CLE Anthony Bennett as 1st overall.
07 Feb 2016 22:29:28
Min- 2010 drafting Wesley Johnson over cousins and George.
08 Feb 2016 11:34:31
DET in 2003., with Melo they would have fought for title probably, this way that generation broke apart.
08 Feb 2016 13:18:47
Detroit won the title that year.
Drafting Oden, was the same as drafting Sam Bowie
Portland should have won at least one title with Durant- LMA and Roy.
08 Feb 2016 13:40:44
#1: Pistons taking Darko
#2:Wolves taking two PG back to back. I remember that and figured there was a trade in the works. There was no trade. They just drafted two PGs back to back and one of them was not Curry.
08 Feb 2016 14:19:45
Drafting Milicic was logical.
They already had a good core. B Wallace, Hamilton, Prince, Okur and Billups. So they could gamble with a prospect
They didn't need D Wade and would they have trade for R Wallace if they drafted Bosh or Anthony?
Without R Wallace, they would never won that title.
Minny drafting Rubio, was not a bad choice, drafting Flynn was. Not only Curry was available, they could have drafted Derozian or T Evans.
But i think Memphis made a bigger mistake, not drafting Harden. (Z-BO/ Gasol/ D Carrol/ Conley/ Harden)
Chicago drafted J Noah and D Rose in the following years, so that turns out ok.
Miwaukee already had M Williams and TJ Ford, so drafting a big was logical. (CP3 and Red could have been an older version of the splash brothers :-) )
So my choice is still Portland not drafting K Durant.
Drafting Oden is the same as drafting S Bowie.
Durant, LMA and Roy would have been great.
Ps: Imagine Golden state drafted P George with their pick :-)
08 Feb 2016 15:18:13
Long time ago, got it all mixed up. Nevertheless, Melo, Bosh or Wade would have extended the lifetime of that generation for quite some time and be ground on which to build the next one. When you have more or less sure thing as Melo, gambling doesn't make sense.
To give fresh contribution, many teams missed with their pick, but no one as much as SAC, year after year, from 2007. they had lottery pick every year (they also missed out on Rondo 2006.) and only one of those players is still on team and just one more having decent career (T. Evans) . So many consecutive misses and bad fits is tragedy in itself worth of recapitulating, but will begin at 2011 draft with real disasters. Before they missed out on some prospects (Gasol, Ibaka, Batum, Dragic - before Europeans became popular, so it is to some degree understandable), but only after 2009 (Evans) and 2010 (Cousins) they seemed to have something going, and those misses became real costly (they missed on Curry while picking Evans, but since he won ROY I wouldn't consider that a miss) :
2011, 7: Byombo (traded for Fredette; missed out on: Knight, Walker, Thompson, Leonard, Jackson, Butler)
2012, 5: T. Robinson (Lillard, Barnes, Drummond, Green. )
2013, 7: McLemore (Calldwell-Pope, C. J. McCollum, Giannis)
2014, 8: Stauskas (Vonleh, Nurkic, LaVine, Harris, Jokic, Hood, Capella) - also, drafting second shooter in two years, with huge hole at PG after Evans left
Imagine, just one possible combiantion: Mudiay-LaVine-Leonard-Barnes-DMC
Now that's tragic.
08 Feb 2016 18:15:48
Hindsight is great when it comes to the prospects. But darko had potential. Oden, how could you know the injuries. I'd say the most obvious failure was curry. Taking back to back pg. both which couldn't shoot. Just typical wolves moves with Kahn. I'd have to say that was the biggest blunder in recent draft history.
08 Feb 2016 20:40:47
Darko Milicic Pre-draft
Strengths: Solid athlete who can run the floor and jump like few others his size . Creative scorer who understands how to set-up his defender off the dribble . Excellent finisher when receiving the ball on the break or out on the perimeter as he can cut to the lane and even dunk in traffic . On defense he is an excellent help defender who shows promise of being an adequate shot-blocker. Does a very good job of using his long arms to grab most rebounds around his area despite usually being physically out-matched by his opponents . Can be a nightmare for opposing players to defend due to his versatility as he is too quick for most power forwards and too tall for most small forwards to defend in the post. Excellent ball handler for his size . Plays extremely aggressive and won't back down from a challenge . Competitive, he'll do whatever it takes to win . Shows court awareness beyond his years as he will adjust his game according to how the defense plays him . Can shoot the ball from 20 feet with consistency and even has the ability to extend out to the three point line . Has a very high basketball IQ and sees plays before they occur. Good passer who is blessed with solid court vision. Double teams rarely bother him . Shows soft touch around the basket. Owns a solid hesitation dribble move he uses to bait his defender out of the paint. As soon as his defender plays his shot, Milicic will dribble into the lane for the quick lay-up .
Weakness: Has problems at times holding his position on the low blocks due to his lack of body strength . Offensively his back to the basket skills are still in the developmental stages as he prefers to face the basket. Needs to continue to improve his upper body strength although this should be no surprise when you consider his age . Unlike most young players defensively he shows above average skills but it's the basic stuff he'll need to improve on . Perimeter defensive skills such as anticipation and playing the passing lanes . As far as working on his low post defense, strength and experience are the main detracting factors . Tends to put the ball on the floor a little too much after getting an offensive rebound . Ball protection is a area of concern as he can get careless at times . Needs to work on getting rebounds out of position . When posting up Milicic should improve on getting wider so he can give guards a bigger target when they pass into the post.
08 Feb 2016 21:18:24
Yeah. based off that report philly, it makes the pistons decision not seem so bad. Just seemed like he had a ton of potential, and with their incredible core, the risk could be justified. If he turned the opposite route, ended up like a dirk, or other highly skilled european player. theyd look liek geniuses. Thus is the gamble of the draft.
09 Feb 2016 23:33:57
The worst draft mess up was when 13 teams passed on kobe.
09 Feb 2016 23:50:06
I'm a solid Kobe fan but i don't think Kobe will be this great if he played for another team. He'll be great but not like this. He might not have a single championship, we can't tell. But still agree that that is a messed up opprtunity for those teams.
06 Feb 2016 15:20:27
If lakers get Simmons, between him and Randle, one has to go. Randle likes to handle the ball but doesn't have a jumpshot yet like Simmons.
What possible trades are there if trading Randle for a center? (Preferably a defensive minded center)
06 Feb 2016 15:46:29
I'd say Noel. But the lakers need to add more. Randle really just doesn't have that much value.
06 Feb 2016 15:49:49
I was thinking a three team deal
Pelicans lakers sixers
Pelicans trade #6 pick
Pelicans receive Randle okc and heat pick lakers second
Sixers trade Noel
Sixers receive 6 pick
Lakers trade Randle 32 pick
Lakers receive Noel.
06 Feb 2016 19:25:18
I don't think the sixers bite. Noel is proven to be pretty good. Not great but very good. The 6 is a mystery. Especially in this draft. Seems like the sixers are done with playing the prospect lottery. At least as far as giving up established talent for it.
06 Feb 2016 20:29:26
I was just thinking 6 if they want to draft a pg like Dunn hield or Murray.
06 Feb 2016 21:22:22
Yeah, what this trade essentially is, is 2 trades. The lakers giving up randle and a 2nd, for Noel and 2 1sts. I wouldn't trade Noel straight up for randle. i'm fairly certain you realize Noel is considered more valuable. Then on top you have the sixers giving 2 1sts for the lakers 2nd.
Throwing in the third team just made it a little harder to figure out, but essentially, that's what you are doing. The sixers would be better off just giving noel and 1 first to the pelicans for the 6 if they really wanted to do that.
Sorry, just a bad trade idea for the sixers. Sucks, but randle is really seeming like he isn't that good. PF, who shoots 41%, less than half a block, about half a steal, his teams are significantly better defensively when he is off the court, a little bit better offensively when he is off the court. At this point, i wouldn't consider him much more valuable than a late first. Just being blunt.
06 Feb 2016 21:37:06
These past games, he's been shooting better, he's still 21, not giving up on him yet. When he doesn't play out of control he's shows his flashes of potential. I think if he had a coach that motivated him to make him play under control, would make him better than he is.
06 Feb 2016 21:51:31
I don't have a problem of what you said in the first 2 paragraphs, and I know we've had these discussions on Randle before, I just think he's worth more than a late first.
07 Feb 2016 00:32:01
Yeah. I get it he has flashes. Just not consistent and definitely one of the least efficient pf scorers in the league. The real issue is the defense. It is beyond awful. And quite honestly. Don't know if correctable.
07 Feb 2016 04:13:53
I'll admit the best his defense can be is below average, but I believe he will be more efficient in 2-3 years.
07 Feb 2016 13:49:21
Yeah, it's possible. But that's why his value is so low. Half his game will at best be below average. And possibly in a few years, once his rookie contract is ending, he may be efficient. That's a problem my man.
07 Feb 2016 15:10:28
Fair enough. If not Noel maybe wcs from the kings or dieng from the wolves.
07 Feb 2016 15:46:03
Not sure why Kings drafted WCS. I don't think he was that good in college. But they're the Kings.
07 Feb 2016 16:43:43
Considering they already had a C in cousins and players mudiay, turner, Winslow, and Johnson were on the board, yeah it was dumb. Divac isn't good and their owner isn't any better.
06 Feb 2016 14:46:03
Cavs need a real head coach. Tom Thibs, JVG, Coach Cal or Coach K
Make Shane Battier an asst coach.
06 Feb 2016 21:24:39
They need a real coach! Like Coach Cal! Who has a career NBA winning percentage under 40% and has been found guilty of MAJOR violations/ cheating at every school he's coached and had success!
Or Coach K, who is 68 and has never coached a play in the NBA (sorry the olympics don't count, that's not the NBA) .
Seriously. that's the problem lots of teams have with finding coaches. they all go for the sexy names.
05 Feb 2016 02:12:46
Top free agents will go like this I'm thinking
Durant - max OKC
Drummond- max Pistons
Derozan - max raptors
Conley- 4 yr 70 mil lakers
Horford - 4 yr 70 mil Hawks
Howard - 5yr 75 mil Mavericks
Whiteside- max Pelicans
Batum- 4 yr 60 mil hornets
Beal- 5 yr 70 mil wizards
Parsons - 4 yr 65 mil Mavericks
Gasol- 3 yr 30 mil kings
Barnes - 4 yr 60 mil warriors
Noah - 3 yr 30 mil hornets
Bazemore - 4 yr 40 mil Hawks
Fournier - 5 yr 60 mil Grizzlies
Gordon - 4 yr 35 mil Knicks
Clarkson - 5 yr 65 mil Grizzlies
Mozgov- 3 yr 35 mil rockets
Jennings- 5 yr 50 mil Knicks
Anderson - 5 yr 50 mil Spurs
Marjonavic - 4 yr 50 mil wizards
afflalo - 3 yr 35 mil pacers
pachulia - 4 yr 55 mil celtics
Jefferson - 4 yr 50 mil lakers
hibbert - 2 yr 15 mil bucks
Rondo- 5 yr 70 mil sixers.
05 Feb 2016 06:18:38
Some of these players will get a lot more money. Some are off like rondo to the sixers?
05 Feb 2016 12:33:27
Conley to Lakers is possible. I would trade Russell for a star then.
05 Feb 2016 13:01:19
The Knicks aren't impressed with Jennings now. Why in the world would get sign him to a 5 year deal? Which also isn't possible. The Bucks have Henson and Monroe, why hibbert? Who is marjonavich? This is beyond awful. Do you understand that you can't sign 5 years if it is a new team?
05 Feb 2016 13:02:22
This week I heard Durant to Golden State. If they move Jason Thompson's contract Durant can get $20m. The cap goes up to $90m and they'll have $20m to offer.
Rondo is not coming to the Sixers.
Clarkson to the Grizzles?
I see Whiteside going to the Lakers or staying on South Beach.