NBA Talk Feb 22 2012
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"So it's Pau or bust. Bryant may not like it, but the Lakers would be fools not to keep their options open. Trading Pau is the only potential way they could fill several roster holes at once, and while it normally doesn't make sense to trade a blue chip for several red ones, the numbers make a lot more sense when you have the league's worst roster 4 through 12. It's not hard coming up with dance partners, that's for sure. Send him to Houston for Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, Marcus Morris and Chase Budinger, and the Lakers suddenly fill four rotation spots with one deal while saving several million on luxury tax; deal him to Indiana for David West, George Hill and Dahntay Jones and you accomplish a similar feat. These aren't the only possibilities; one can build similar trades with several other teams, ones that don't bring back a talent on Gasol's level but plug so many gaps that it may be worth it anyway."
22 Feb 2012 18:03:54
Chris Bosh looks like ET Thats hilarious. Kobe and him on 2k looks straight like an alien
22 Feb 2012 17:49:48
everyone really needs to stop putting the sixers in trades and giving them players they dont need for their good players or just as a 3rd team that could make a trade better for the other teams and not for them Right? I keep seeing Iggy traded for Gasol, stupid stupid stupid laker fans.
22 Feb 2012 13:43:38
Best move for LA
Wait until Orlando request a trade from LA. A deal that will swap the top 2 centers. and i think its good if Gasol is a part of that deal.
key players in the trade
Lakers get Howard, Hedo
Orlando get Bynum, Gasol
just add up key players, Round picks and Cash to sweeten the deal.
or just keep Gasol. and get a guard that could set up their two assets (Bynum and Gasol). best options are Flynn and Sessions. just scout for other more. and kobe must set up. and tell his team mates that if they don't start to play hard and exert some effort. championship is Impossible for them. Im a Heat fan. I think LA should keep those 2 together (Bynum and Gasol) and trade for Sessions. But I will tell you who you all need is Vasquez off NO, if dude would start he'd average 10 assists on a good team. Lakers should keep there big guys. nowhere else in the league are there 2 bigs as talented. they do not use the advantage. when they do they win. easy as that. stop jacking up three's and pound-it inside. bynum and gasol are togh when they do that. even dwight can't stop both of them. from a real laker fan!!
22 Feb 2012 13:11:24
Alright this what the lakers should do and fast:
Trade andrew bynum, steven blake and draft picks
For
dwight howard, and j.j reddick
Since we need a pg
We trade pau gasol and david ebanks for deron willams and jordan farmer
The next thing i would is trade metta world peace and a draft pick for michael beasly and cash
the last and final thing i would do is give eveything back to the mavericks on what they got in the odom deal and get lamar odom back
Starting lineup:
Deron willams, kobe, michael, odom, and howard
Back up:
Fisher, j.j reddick, matt barnes, troy murphy, and kopano
Bech:
Who ever we have right know and include jordan farmer
22 Feb 2012 03:32:10
LA Laker fans. You should keep your picks and two big men and play out the season. In the draft you need to target Kendall Marshall. Perfect fit. Or any pg
21 Feb 2012 23:55:58
Hope Lin starts the not booing Hump anymore lead. Hes actually a damn good player.
21 Feb 2012 19:59:11
There's a reason why everybody's trying to trade for Rondo and you rarely see someone trying to trade for Evans: Rondo's better. Simple like that.
21 Feb 2012 18:52:29
Wow I just put 2 and 2 together
Lebron is the Arod of bball. Best player, most talented, but for whatever reason just doesnt have the "it" to put them over the top.
Arod had to go to the Yanks to finally win. Bron to the Heat. Maybe he'll finally win one.
Wade is Jeter to LeBrons Arod I agree...LBJ is my favorite player and my idol but....everybody hates him 'cause he wanna ring and a better team...He finally got better team and he finally leave that...I don't know that teams name??
Is something Clele?
Anyway,now he got the team,ring will come...I hope...
21 Feb 2012 13:30:05
How about this
Trade BUSS to another owner? That solve all the problem So trade the guy who has won you 5 championships? its amazing to me how laker fans turn on those who got them where they are when things go south
21 Feb 2012 16:33:09
Bulls/Lakers/Trailblazers trade:
Bulls get:
Pau Gasol
Darius Morris
2012 2nd Round Pick (POR)
Lakers get:
Carlos Boozer
Gerald Wallace
CJ Watson
Trailblazers get:
Omer Asik
1st Round Pick (Bobcats via CHI)
Chicago Bulls
PG: Derrick Rose
SG: Rip Hamilton
SF: Luol Deng
PF: Pau Gasol
C: Joakim Noah
6th Man: Taj Gibson
Los Angeles Lakers
PG: CJ Watson
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: Gerald Wallace
PF: Carlos Boozer
C: Andrew Bynum
6th Man: Derek Fisher
Portland Trailblazers
PG: Raymond Felton
SG: Wesley Matthews
SF: Nicholas Batum
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: Omer Asik
6th Man: Jamaal Crawford Nice! Asik, Boozer, Watson and a first for Gasol. No thank you Bulls fan. I'm pretty sure for Wallace Portland will want more than that.
21 Feb 2012 16:02:05
i know the perfect way to get everybody to click believable
Then nets beat the knicks last night, lin sucked, williams dominated
21 Feb 2012 04:08:52
Thunder-Nuggets best game ever! KD 51, Westbrook 40, Serge Iblocka triple double Its not even close to the best game ever.
best regular season game this year. possibly
but best game ever no chance
21 Feb 2012 00:26:11
(thinking as a lakers fan)
dang the wolves want gasol!
lets give them gasol and 3 sh*tty players for love, rubio, beasley, williams and 5 first round picks! *thinking as Laker fan*
YOURE KIDDING ME! GASOL HAS WAY MORE VALUE THAN THAT. WE WANT ATLEAST 3 UNPROTECTED PICKS Laker fan
next we will trade
fisher for drose
blaker for cp3
mwp for durant
ebanks for lebron
barnes for dwade
mcroberts for howard
murphy for dirk Kevin love alone is worth way more than gasol lets get serious he averages over ten rebounds a game and and twenty points. the lakers would take barea and beasley and micheal beasley will become a great player if that happens because he has the talent and potential, he just needs a mentor and kobe is that guy. Gasol and une s**tty player for calderon and bargnani Drose for Gasol. Straight up
20 Feb 2012 08:34:38
Magic get kamen, evans, solmons, jason thompson kings 2012 second
Hornets get hickson and nelson plus magic second 201 2 & 2013 second pick
Kings get howard and howard plays out contract.. kings sign wilson chandler this year for a 3 year 25 mil with player option for nine mil on 3rd year..
Magic then trade richardson 2012 first for sessions..
Kings line up
Thomas
Thorton
Chandler
Cousins
Howard
Magic line up
Sessions
Evans
Turk
Anderson
Kamen
20 Feb 2012 06:43:11
The odd moves for the lakers but would help..
Trade kobe, blake, and goudelock for rondo, ray allen, and oneal plus boston first round 2012 top ten protected.. lakers get diaw, smith, and hinrich plus to ten protected 2012. Bobcats get zaza and jmr.. Hawks get bynum, walton, and fisher...
Rondo
Allen
Smith
Gasol
Oneal
at end of season amnesty artest
Lakers would be young and athletic with multiple draft picks and can easily move down in draft to get player they want.. Plus cap to sign howard who couldn't resist signing with these lakers.. Rondo, gasol, smith, and howard would be great core.. Just need to draft a nba ready shooting guard.. Trade both picks required for lamb and still have there own plus dallas pick..lakers still got mid and mini contract exceptions to fill roster and can sign resign allen and maybe barnes..
Rondo
Lamb
Smith
Gasol
Howard
Or lakers could do the kobe trade.. lakers trade gasol and walton for scola, martin, and dragic plus ny pick.. Then opt out bynum then after season amnesty artest and sign gerald wallace, odom, and wilson chandler.. Plus have four first round picks to trade for to draft drummond and resign bynum with bird rights... Then use excemption and 2014pick for blatche..
Rondo/dragic
Martin/allen
Wallace/chandler
Blatche/odom
Bynum/drummond
This team would 3 peat and have best defense and best bench.. Trading Kobe is sooooo stupid. He would haunt LA. And I hate Kobe Me tooo...
20 Feb 2012 05:48:01
What do the clippers have to give up to get a good shooting guard? I feel like thats what they need in order to take things to the next level. Give me some feedback! MAybe Blake GrIffin to da Bullz fo Michael Jordan. den him n CP3 wld b da MVP's. Clipps shud get Capt Jack Clippers should send mo williams for stephen jackson helps both teams because the bucks need some scoring and jackson gives them size and late scoring and space out the floor. Bucks dont need Mo seeing how we have 3PGs already, good ones at that, Jennings,Beno,Livingston Give us a 1st round for him
20 Feb 2012 03:14:40
for the twolves usally having the worst teams in history why is it all LA fans keep posting all these trades with twolves now that they have gotten better
20 Feb 2012 01:29:11
Tony Douglas, Bill Walker, Mike Bibby for anybody How about.....the waiver wire?
19 Feb 2012 10:21:07
So you think that Kobe deserves MVP more than LBJ??What a joke...Yes,maybe LeBron can't take last shot and play 4th quarter but his stats are amazing..
LBJ:
PPG 28.0
RPG 8.1
APG 6.7
Kobe:
PPG 28.9
RPG 5.90
APG 5.0
And yeah when you look at this you will think that Bryant is better scorer,yes he is but Lebron shots 555 times this season and Bryant shots 718 times!!
And of course he is better scorer 'cause he's selfish and he must play alone...
Beside that he played about 50 minutes longer than LBJ in season and also LBJ didn't played one game(against ATL)..
So,yeah Bryant can score and he has amzaing clutch but he is selfish and he asked for a trade 2007 'cause Shaq leave LAL and they were zero!!And when Gasol and Bynum came they start to win...LBJ was playing 7 yr alone in CLE and they had a few times best record and 1Final...
Bottom line:
LBJ>Kobe(Mr.Selfish) So lebrick is better then kobe just because of his stats. id like to think winning 5 championships factors in there somehow I think hes talking about this year. LeBron would have 5 if he was in Kobes shoes, just like TMac and Vince Carter. Lets see... Lakers or Cavs? Is that even a fair question? Haha once again, you know bball is a TEAM sport, right? LeBron literally led the Cavs single handly to annual playoff runs. Kobe has been on great TEAMS. @So lebrick is better then kobe just because of his stats. id like to think winning 5 championships factors in there somehow..
What championships??
3 of 5 Kobe's championships have been merits of Shaq and Horry...5 championships again??
Did he get at least 1 playing alone??
From Shaq's leaving and bringing Gasol and Bynum??
NONE!!LIKE LEBRON!LAL WERE BARELY IN PLAYOFFS!!KOBE IS CLUTCH,LEBRON IT'S NOT,BUT HE HAS BROUGHT A GLORY TO CLE!!CAVS WERE UNSTOPPABLE!!
As many times you denied you know that this is TRUE!!! At least Kobe did it with the same team, Lebron had a good enough team to win a championship in Cle, but instead he had to run to Wade another top 5 playrr, + Lakers drafted Bynum and traded for Gadol not the same as LeBrick bailing on his team in his home state Haha they never had anything close to a championship team in Cle. When Mo Williams is your sidekick, you're not good enough to win a championship.
19 Feb 2012 06:08:15
Wolves fans have officialy surpassed Cavs fans as the lamest fans on this site!! You guys are sniffing .500 and assume the Wolves wont make moves because of "team chemestry" Then again ur team wasted Kg's career so midiocracy is in ur DNA. ^ pissed off laker fan not getting klove K. Love is better than 2 Pau's at the Moment
19 Feb 2012 02:21:07
i wish the nba would go to 3 rounds in the draft and not just 2 cause there are so many players who dont get drafted but do get signed as a free agent.....but this way more players have a shot of making it to the NBA which is their dream of a lifetime
SO WHY NOT GO TO 3 ROUNDS INSTEAD OF 2?? How many undrafted players actually make it. not many thats why theres only 2 rds ^ more than you think. The D League should be ran like Minor League Baseball.
17 Feb 2012 17:05:08
Now that the Clippers have lost JR Smith to NY how about the Clippers make a deal with the Bucks. Maybe Bledsoe for Jackson? Bledsoe Ryan Gomes and clippers 4 million trade exception to the bucks for Stefen Jackson Bledsoe + 1st rounder for Jackson, Im a Bucks fan we really dont need another PG with BJ,Udrih,and Livingston, so give up the 1st But Jackson wants to be traded to the magic so maybe
Jackson and Livingston for Richardson and Duhon Clippers don't want Jackson!! I think the clippers should deal either Bledsoe or Mo Williams for a SG, anybody think of any fair trades? I would do a Jackson and Udrih for J-rich and Daniel Orton
17 Feb 2012 02:27:50
Big 3
Lin melo amare vs lebron wade bosh I cnt wait to this match Mia will destroy them. Lin or Anthony play no D New York will spank Miami now that they have j.r smith and a healthy carmelo anthony back. Haha thats funny. Watch mello destroy their chemistry. Lin turns it over like 6 times a game.
And who can guard wade and lebron on ny? Miami will still win but melo does not ruin team chemistry, yes they will have to learn to play together but look at the stats when melo was gone novak and chandler and shumpert and fields picked up the slack big time and so obviously smith and melo have chances to score lin wont score forty but his assist will increase Lets see.... mello left denver... denver got better... mello got hurt... nyk actually won... conclusion... mello ruins teams.
17 Feb 2012 01:32:13
Here is the weekly Power Rankings of the dumbest/most naive fans on this site:
1) Los Angeles Lakers ()
- Can anyone disagree that the Lakerfans dream too big? 99%+ trade posted by lakerfans are unrealistic/dumb/naive/will never happen.
2) Boston Celtics ( )
- This is a highjumper on this weeks list: This week weve seen a lot of stupid attempts trying to give away J.O. for great players,...nah not gonna happen!
3) Philadelphia Sixers ( )
- Surprised? I am! Sixersfans should be really clever, because their team sure is! This is one of the best "teams" in the NBA, somehow their fans comer up with desperate ways on how to spoil their chemistry to get D12 and D-Will
4) New York Knicks (v)
- Normally N.Y.s fans are surely on a secure second spot, but this weeks Linsanity stopped the desperate attempts on how to move one or both stars? I can still see the point in moving Melo if he ruins chemistry, BUT their trades are not as crazy as they used to
5) Dallas Mavericks (v)
- Before i would put Dallas in the top 3, weve still seen some bad trades or ideas on how to get Dwill or D12, but it seems more realistic than having them going to Philly?
Just missed the top 5 on the most naive fan list:
New Jersey Nets (yeah they could have been in the top 5!)
Milwaukee Bucks
Miami Heat
Orlando Magic
Cleveland Cavs
Some fangroups posting more fair trades (mostly the ones who are not willing to trade, or just needs small adjustments on their roster, or just teams that Lakerfans think they can steal from:
OKC Thunder
Chicago Bulls
Minnesota T-wolves!
LA Clippers
Toronto Raptors!
N.O. Hornets
Memphis Grizz
Phoenix Suns! (Nash needs to go to a contender, stop sending him to Raptors plz!)
G.S. Warriors
Utah Jazz (Lets just remind eachother, espacially Laker and Celts fans, that Deron Williams doesnt play for Utah no more!)
Indiana Pacers
Denver Nuggets!
Houston Rockets! (i feel bad for you HOU-fans, Stupid Lakerfans thinks they can steal Lowry and Scola for aging Gasol, cmon? really?)
If i have forgotton some of the teams, they are probably in the lower half (there is no order on the good fans i dont see the Denver fans as better than the Houston, i just feel bad for HOU-fans during this tradedeadline,.. give the Rockets a break, they dont need to trade, espcially not Scola/Lowry...Maybe Martin will be traded since he is unhappy with the bench but not the other guys espacially not for Gasol! Ebanks and other bench scrubs!
Last thing i will say is: Have a good week, hopefully the trade-madness will begin soon!
Lets all hope that Lakerfans will get better next week! I'm a Celtics fan and visit this site everyday. Have to say that I never saw a Celtic fan posting JO being trade straight up for good players. It's always him along with a better player from C's roster or draft picks.
We are not like Lakers fans at all! Ive seen plenty of celtic trades with jo, bass and a pick for some great player Really,really good power rankings...
Are you going to next week write a new list, because this is very interesting...
And yeah,Lakersfans will stay on 1.place...
Sorry,if my English isn't so good... 1) lakers (no doubt)
2) cavs
3) mavs
4) 76ers (i agree about the team thing)
5) bulls (again why break up the team)
Im a Heat fan and really there arent many heat trades.
Laker fans will always be #1. They have one valuable piece (Bynum) and want other teams starters for guys like MWP, Barnes, Ebanks (d leaguer), and that rookie PG. Nor do they care about other teams needs. Pau will not get back young studs all their fans want but they're to arrogant to accept this.
16 Feb 2012 23:32:17
Lakers trade Luke Walton,Artest,Morris
4 A 5 $ foot long from Subway
No teams want your crap LA fans,
Luke Walton should be washing cars for a living You hit the nail right on the head, those are worthless pieces who lakers think will land them kevin love?? or dwight howard for just gasol, they should realize they would loose bynum too! magic want young talent not just one good player and scrubs
16 Feb 2012 21:11:41
I got news for a lot of the Laker haters. You guys are just mad because the Lakers organization figures out ways to ship below average players to build a dynasty. Thats why the Lakers win. They figure out ways to manipulate the other franchise into making them think it is good for them. Lakers do what ever it takes to win. They will make trades and become better. Truth of the matter is you guys wish your franchise made steps like the Lakers do to improving your team while instead they sit back and watch the Lake Show build dynasties. You all will click unbelievable but you know its the truth. Look at what the Lakers got Pau Gasol for? The only other franchises that actually want to win like LA is OKC, MIA, and BOS. What LA gave up for Pau? Marc, a younger a better player than right now. Imagine if they never traded for Pau. They'd have Marc and more cap space room. Plus Marc is more tradable to get a superstar. Pau won two championships. But I guess that means nothing now that little bro is having a decent year on a dreadful team And ppl wonder why other fans hate the Lakers. Arrogant and WRONG Lmao laker fan
whats the lakers record? oh thats right the clippers have a better record along with half the league Thanks to nba owners (especially jordan, gilbert and cuban) crying to stern, yes... i crying I'm sorry you're crying.. Well marc gasol is an all star this year while his brother isnt and he is much younger. Pau is a very good big but there is a reason your team is trying to ship him lmao because he is not gonna take your team to the top and well he is thirty two just saying. he is good but not a player to build on
16 Feb 2012 20:50:50
After all this Linsanity, imagine if LeBron would have went to NY. He would have been the biggest star in sports and had less backlash. He could have recruited Bosh to NY and Wade would have left for CHI.
Since this was pre-Mello, the Knicks would have still had Wilson Chandler, Gallinari, Ray Felton,Mosgav and whatever else they could have signed.
PG Felton
SG Chandler
SF LeBron
PF Gallinari
C Bosh
16 Feb 2012 03:46:11
All the Bulls need is J.R Smith and its is on like biscuits and gravy. And make a trade for Tyler Hansbrough. Right now they just need Rose healthy.
15 feb 2012 23:28:56
i understand that the lakers suck without kobe bryant and that the heat are less good without lebron james
but why on their bad days they shoot about 5-23 and wonder why they lose and that i think they need to not be big ball hogs and pass to their teammates more often
like the other day when kobe only scored 10 points but on 5/18.......they won but kobe sucked
one play where kobe shot a lopsided over the shoulder shot when he was double teamed...even when there was a player wide open...but he still shot the ball and missedso thats why teams like thunder are doing good cause westbrook and durant are working as a team and passing to each other most of the time and thats why they are one of the best nba teams this year
so kobe and lebron dont be ball hogs and pass to your teammates More like Kobe and Mello amigo. LeBron is a very good passer and often passes when he shouldn't (The Finals) Yeah,don't put LBJ in that sentence...Because LBJ have 7 ast pg...and he is a really unselfish unlike Kobe...beside that LeBron got one of the best FG percent in the league and when you look at Bryant statistics you will see that he shot miserable...
He always shoots about 20,25+ balls and put 5-10 balls in basket...
So bottom line is that LBJ is good ALL-AROUND player,and Kobe is selfish JUST SCORING(many balls)player....
15 Feb 2012 22:33:58
Im laker fan and im sayn lin melo amare will work lin will run the point plus melo said he will let lin have tge ball and he go follow if they want to win a championship but I think should average 15pt 10assist lin go make melo amare and rest better knicks dont trade melo
15 Feb 2012 20:25:50
I Have a 4 Team trade between the Magic, Rockets, Warriors, and Lakers that work for all parties
ORL: Receive: Andrew Bynum, Ekpe Udoh, MWP, Goran Dragic, 1st rd pick from Rockets and 1st rd pick from the lakers
HOU: Receive: Pau Gasol, Darius Morris and 2nd rd pick from Orl
GSW: Kevin Martin, Derek Fisher, Earl Clark and McRoberts
LAL: Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu, Ryan Anderson, Luis Scola, Monta Ellis, and Jeremy Tyler
let me break this down
If youre Orlando you know Dwight is leaving you dont want to lose him for nothing so why not get the next best thing which is Bynum and i believe Bynum has a more polished offensive game than Dwight. Bynum is averaging 16 and 13 if im not mistaken and with his own team with the ball going threw him with a true point guard and kobe not jacking up 30 shots a game i believe he can be and 25 and 14 type of player. Ekpe Udoh has raw potential he is a solid rebounder in a effective shot blocker he just need 2 be consistent on the offensive end. MWP has lost it offensively but he can still play defense MWP and Bynum would bring some toughness to a soft Magic team an with the east being so dominant u need someone to defend on the perimeter and a frontline of Bynum Udoh and WP would be a tough one to go against night in and night out. Goran Dragic is an under rated combo guard who would be perfect for the magic coming off the bench with jj redick
Nelson/Dragic/smith
J.Rich/Redick/Wafer
MWP/Q.Rich/Liggins
Big Baby/Udoh/Harper
Bynum/Orton
i honestly think this is a 6 seed @ worst
As i recalled i believe the rockets gave up Martin Scola Dragic and a 1st rd pick for gasol and im hearing the rockets want to revisit it. The rockets are very high on Gasol and they should be as a somewhat 3rd option he is averaging 16 and 10 but i believe he can be that 20-10 if he can be himself once again He would be a perfect fit with kyle lowry who could of ben an all-star this year and a up incoming Chase Budinger that would make a solid big three in the west and i know Kevin McHale is licking his chops @ an opportunity to work with Pau Gasol and i think he can bring the best out of him.. Darius Morris could and will be a nice young point guard if he just learn how to play under control
Lowry/Flynn/Morris
Lee/Williams
Budinger/Parsons/M.Morris
Gasol/Patterson/Smith
Dalembert/Hill/Thabeet
The Warriors have been wanting some size @ the 2 guard spot for quite some time Now and With a 6'7 kevin Martin they acquire just that Kevin Martin is a scoring Machine and with a backcourt of Curry and Martin Would be deadly nobody in the nba would want to go against that. They both can handle the ball and shoot the lights out and Earl Clark Can take some pressure Of David Lee down low because besides him cant none of the other bigs score @ all he can take bigs off the dribble an he has a nice mid range game but what this team is missing most is a leader and Derek Fisher Can be that guy he know what it takes to win yes he is not the Derek Fisher of old but he still come threw in the pressure moments and with this team thats exactly what they need somebody that can help them become a team an not individuals he would be an extension of Mark jackson
Curry/robinson/Fisher
Martin/Thompson/Jenkins
D.Wright/Rush/C.Wright
Lee/Clark/McGuire
Biedrins/Brown
And as for the lakers the trade exception will play a hige part in this and they get what they wanted all along 2 superstar 2 play alongside Kobe and people are going to say monta and kobe cant play together but if you guys notice when Steph Curry was out he averaged 8 almost 9 assist a game and his assist total rose last year so he showed he is willing and capable of playing Pg however they still need to sure up the bench because steve blake is not the answer in Troy Murphy is inconsistent i believe that glock an score he just need minutes and ebanks and barnes will bring energy and defensive to a second unit that will need it and ryan anderson can be the shooter that teams has been lacking for i dont know how long and i believe Jeremy Tyler is a sleeper with the right people around him he can be a solid player in the league
Ellis/goudelock/blake
Brynat/Ebanks
Turkoglu/Barnes/Kapono
Scola/Anderson/Murphy
Howard/Tyler
tell me what you guys think So the lakers get everyone they want by giving up garbage along with bynum and gasol.
worst trade of the year TERRIBLE TRADE!!! Thank God you are not a GM in this league! (too much to lakers -- u must b a lakers fan) I stopped reading when I saw that the lakers got ellis, howard, turk AND scola. The lakers aren't THAT bad they don't even have a losing record. Trading everything they have isn't the right thing to do. Keep your good players, get rid of your bad players in the off season and improve through the draft. Btw effff the lakers!! Howard AND Ellis AND Anderson AND Scola?? You must be either high on something or a Lakers fan. who does that benefit?? monta ellis is better than kevin martin and udoh is better than mcroberts. and if all it took was bynum and scrubs the lakers would have dwight by now the lakers have no good picks and no young pieces beside bynum they are going to be rebuilding to WIN not be crappy with one good player
15 Feb 2012 18:49:00
Lakers are reportedly reluctant to trade Pau Gasol....How dumb. I think the only way they will trade him is if they get D12. Time to nut up and get better pieces and build around Bynum. Get Kevin Martin and Scola. Then use trade exception or draft pick and Matt Barnes and get Ramon Sessions.
PG- Ramon Sessions/Andrew Goudelock
SG- Kobe Bryant/Kevin Martin
SF- Metta World Peace(Unfortunately)/Devin Ebanks
PF-Luis Scola/Josh McRoberts
C- Andrew Bynum/Troy Murphy
Not a bad lineup. I'm over the D12 thing. If the Lakers get him, I'll be happy. But he needs to grow up and play out his contract. He signed it! No one made him ink it. Don't call me a "Stupid Laker Fan" because you all know this trade is realistic. If the Lakers had this team, then traded for a SF like Andre Iguadola they would be contenders. Doubt it will happen because Mitch Kupchak is a douche, but hey I can dream!
15 Feb 2012 17:30:44
If Lakers and Celtics could think about it rationally, they would do the following:
Celtics - Cavs - Lakers
Cavs: JO + 2012 2nd rd dp (Boston) or
2012 1st rd dp (Boston) (Cavs need a center, since Varejao is out. Anyway, if they decide not to take JO's expiring contract, no problem!)
Lakers: Ramon Sessions + Brandon Bass
Celtics: Pau Gasol + trade exception
Celtics would have to throw 2 or 3 other pieces in order to dump salary. But it could work and would make both better this year and Cavs better next year. You CANNOT trade, trade exceptions
how hard is that to understand Yes u can So basically, you'd give up an allstar for trash.... ?
15 Feb 2012 17:18:40
Nets howard hedo
Magics lopez humphries 2 1st dp
Knicks fans stupid they want melo out pull off a 3 team trade to get melo to the nets with out giving up dwill then knicks will not beat the nets Lopez hasn't played all year! Lopez played the other day he had nine points and it was an ok deal till u added melo. nets will have to ship brooks and lopez and probaly humphries or morrow
15 Feb 2012 08:36:53
Lakers Suns trade
Lakers receive Nash, Gortat, Shannon Brown 1st round pick in 2012
Suns Receive Bynum, Blake, Gouldlock
I know it may be hard to give up Bynum, but receiving a quite capable big bodied centre in Gortat isnt a massive downgrade. Plus receiving nash is a massive plus and brown to be back where he belongs and helps the scoring off the bench what the Lakers need.
Also they receive a lottery protected first round pick.
Suns receive a building block in bynum. A young stud in gouldlock, to early to tell his potential.. And a capable starting guard until brooks come back then a handy back up guard.
I think its win win?
15 Feb 2012 07:15:41
Mia - Hou
Bosh PF (Mia)
For-
Scola PF (Hou)
J.Hill C (Hou)
Jonny Flynn PG (Hou) or Thabeet C (Hou)
Gives a very capable PF back to Mia in Scola. Hill could play a big roll in C for Mia. Flynn/Thabeet are throw ins.
Hou gets a legit superstar (look at his numbers as the 2nd option w/o Wade.
In Toronto (as the first option) he averaged 24 pts/10.6 rbs his last season there. Averaged a double double 3 different seasons and 9.2 and 8.7 rbs two other years. This dude is a star on any other team without Wade and LeBron.
Pau Gasols best NBA season was for LA in the 09-10 season. He averaged 18.3 pts and 11.3 rbs. His best season wasnt even as good as Bosh's.
Bosh is 27 (28 on March 24)
Gasol is 31 (32 on July 6)
So Hou gets a player whose ceiling is higher, and is about 4 years younger. Not only that, us Heat fans aren't idiotic who "demand" Lowry in return (which wont happen anyway for Gasol or Bosh.)
Scola could for sure replace Bosh as the third option and Hill would be a big time addition for the Heat. Bosh seems unhappy with his role and IS overpaid for a 3rd option. With Hou he could easily return to his All-Star form.
So LA fans begin to freak out about Gasol is better. Bosh is overrated. The facts are Bosh has a higher ceiling, especially now, and the trade helps BOTH teams. Something you LA fans should take into consideration from time to time to make realistic offers on here.
Mia fans (like me) this trade creates payroll flexibility going forward, gives a darn good 3rd option PF, but most importantly gives Hill (who is underrated) a chance to help out at Center (the Heat's biggest need.)
The Heat should quit screwing around and sign Kyrylo Fesenko. That dude is a HUGE defensive game changer. Most people have never heard of him, so look at his defensive presence (something like the Jazz gave up 11 pts fewer per 100 possessions) and he has done that his entire career.
Heat:
PG Chalmers/Cole/Flynn
SG Wade/Mike Miller
SF LeBron/Battier
PF Scola/Haslem
C Hill/Anthony/Fesenko/(anything from Eddie Curry becomes HUGE)
Without a doubt, I'd rather have this Heat lineup going forward.
So LA fans, FREAK OUT about Gasol "filling arenas" (HAHA) and his 2 rings. Did you ever think they want Gasol because they figure someone like Bosh is untouchable? I rather have curry as my starting center than to trade bosh for an ok power forward and bunch of ok players
15 Feb 2012 03:54:47
Heat should sign Kyrylo Fresenko for a bench player. His defensive numbers are crazy good but is not good at all offensively. Bron and Wade deal with the majority of the offense so any offense wouldnt be needed by Fresenko. He could focus on dominating the paint and hitting the boards. He would be a great under the radar signing.
15 Feb 2012 03:09:27
Cavs - Lakers
Sessions, Jamison for Bynum Allstar for trash? your kidding right? I'm a Cavs fan and think this would be a horrible trade...but if the Lakers are dumb enough....
14 Feb 2012 23:10:41
There was a conversation about bird rights below and someone was confused, might be me. I understood that bird rights count against the cap even if the player hasn't been resigned yet. So you can't have Kobe be a free agent, sign someone to a max deal, then resign Kobe to his current salary. Is that correct?
14 Feb 2012 18:54:08
Lakers Magic Bobcats should make a three team trade
Lakers get Dwight Howard,Dj Augustine,Boris Diaw, Najera
Magic gets Andrew Bynum,Steve Blake,and Bobcats 2012 top five pick
Bobcats get Pau Gasol
this trade is good for the Lakers because they dont get a bad contract in Hedo instead they get expiring contracts in Diaw Najera Augustine and its not a sure thing Dwight Howard would resign with the Lakers which would be a big gamble to make for the Lakers but if they lose out on Dwight Howard the Lakers it would save them 33 million in cap room which is not bad but they would lose Bynum and Gasol for just renting Dwight Howard for two months
for the Magic its a great trade because you might have a great chance in getting Anthony Davis with the Bobcats pick and also they would get Andrew Bynum and Steve Blake
for the Bobcats its also a great trade because they would have chance to make the playoffs next year and not being sorry for a long time
I know that because im been a Clipper fan for long time its not that hard getting good draft picks. I disagree. Bobcats would be dumb to give up a top five pick (in a great draft) for Gasol. So you think if they gut their team of expiring contracts to get an overpaid Pau they can make the playoffs? Mike likes to win titles not make the playoffs. Why wouldn't they just let all those players walk or trade for some draft picks. If you look at the Bobcats salaries then you will see how much they have coming off the books in the next two years. They would be better off letting everyone who is a free agent walk in the next two years and sign some young players (45,439,000) who are aproaching their prime instead of past. Pau is not going to be relevant when the Bobcats turn it around so why even get him. You might miss out on a superstar from this years draft pick for Gasol. Best thing for the Bobcats to do is to use the pick this year and bulild around the players that will be their for a few years (Walker, Biyombo, Thomas) Scary that those are the only three players locked up for more then the next two years. Bad trade, Bobcats not trafing their 1st round pick for Gasol who is 31, your clearly a Laker fan, The Bobcats have the worst record meaning they have the highest chance to get the #1 overall pick im sure any team with the chance for a top 5 pick wont be tradong it in this deep draft, nice try No way lakers trade pau gasol and bynum for any d-12 deal the need to use gasol to make the team deeper. ie: trade with the gsw and see if orlando does a straight up deal for bynum cause they would still have the best center in the east.... who in the east is better than bynum at the 5??
14 Feb 2012 15:15:05
Twolves gotta get a SG. Wes Johnson how does he continue to be a starter OMG he is horrible. We want OJ !!!! Bucks/Twolves
S.Jackson 2nd round pick 4 Wes Johnson and Anthony Randolf
14 Feb 2012 10:21:40
People don't understand what a trade exception is still -.- a trade exception is the ability to trade for a player with out it counting as your salary tax as long as the salary of the player is equal to or less than the trade exception
14 Feb 2012 04:52:09
Its bs what the NBA is doing to the Kings. If they had a decent team those fans would show up. Moving the Kings to Seattle would be wrong.
Instead Stern should instead offer that interested buyer of the Kings the Hornets at a fair price. He could then move the Hornets to Seattle. Since NO is in the Western Conference already, this wouldnt be a problem.
Having a league owned team is wrong and the owners should force a sell. Kings have no fan support, and a bad stadium. if sacremento wont build a new arena then they will have to move
seattle is building a brand new arena if the kings do plan on moving. Hornets have 4 bidding local ownership groups go to your games and you wont be moved y'all have crazy amount of talent You guys must not be from around sac the kings are staying they got approved for the new stadium and have you been to a kings game? they have tons of loyal fans! have been to many games this season and not even big teams but guess im looking at ghost when i go haha
14 Feb 2012 03:41:09
Cavs-lakers
cavs trade season tickets from 2012 to 2015
lakers trade whole bench (they all suck) Nobody would go to watch either play
14 Feb 2012 02:59:01
I want to c whats go happen when melo lin amare play together they have something special rite now if they can get it rite they will win it and this coming from a laker fan
Big 3 lin melo amare
Lin go average a double double look out for the knicks Tyson Chandler has the biggest impact of all on that team.
13 Feb 2012 22:56:09
Which is more realistic?? JR Smith to Orlando or Monta Ellis
13 Feb 2012 19:22:03
Believe it or not but the Golden State Warriors are a dark horse candidate to land Dwight Howard and they have the pieces to do it. I know Golden State isn't on Dwight's wish list, but Golden State has a very loyal fan base that would practically worship Howard and with Guard Stephen Curry, the team could contend now and in the future. Here is a possible trade...
Magic get Monta Ellis, David Lee, Ekpe Udoh and the Warrior's first round pick
Warriors get Dwight Howard and Glen Davis
Maybe a Hedo Turkoglu for Andris Biendris swap could be included as well to give the Magic cap space. After this season the Magic could part ways with J-Rich via trade to bring in a small forward.
C:Dwight Howard
PF:Glen Davis
SF:Dorell Wright
SG:Brandon Rush
PG:Stephen Curry
C:David Lee
PF:Ekpe Udoh
SF:Hedo Turkoglu
SG:Monta Ellis
PG:Jameer Nelson He wont stay in golden state. Let them keep big baby and golden state keeps udoh. give them biendris and pick up turkoglu. I'd love to see D12 in some weaker team like GSW...I would not send him on some stronger team like Chitown,Clipperland,Lakers and other because he's acting like a baby!!
GROW UP Dwight!! Lol the warriors dont want to dismantle there team and would have to take hedo and other crappy players plus why would the magic take pieces they cant buld on?
13 Feb 2012 11:21:23
Pau Gasol, 1st round pick to Bucks for Brandon Jennings, Stephen Jackson, and Drew Gooden You're not even close... Lol, the Bucks arent trading Brandon Jennings who is 22 and was a ASG snub for Gasol, Im from Milwaukee and believe the Bucks will do everything they can to resign him, he wont be a UFA tell 2014, Laker fans stop and think why would the bucks who need a shooting gaurd and small forwardtrade for a thirty one year old power forward and jennings is worth more just so you know he has a small contract and is a very good pg
13 Feb 2012 11:19:57
Lakers TRADE RUMORS
OK; According to rumors...Lakers were at the Gilbert Arenas workout and they said Arenas looks slimmed down and explosive and he looks much better than he has the past 2 seasons.
If that is the case then Let's say Lakers sign Gilbert Arenas...
NEXT
They buyout Metta World Peace's contract and waive Darrius Morris
Lakers then use a 2nd round pick, 9mil trade exception for Buck's G/F Stephen Jackson
**IDK if Lakers would wanna pay Jackson 9mil but he is a huge upgrade over Metta World Peace; and u cant put the excuse that he is bad in the locker room.. becuz so is Metta World Peace. Jackson is just a much better player offensively and defensively at this point in their careers.
Laker lineups
PG:Arenas/Blake
SG:Kobe/Goudelock/Kapona
SF:Barnes/Jackson/Ebanks
PF:Gasol/Murphy
C:Bynum/McRoberts
****WC Champs if Arenas is really a changed player like Lakers said he looks like.... Lakers have 0 chance of winning the West with that lineup. Bucks already have 2 second round picks + they can get better for Jackson
13 Feb 2012 07:45:25
if the rumor about lakers aquiring AI will be finalize. and GILBERT ARENAS will be in the team too. i think the lakers are ready to rumble. AI,WORLD PEACE, ARENAS, MATT BARNES. . every games of lakers will be bloody...lol
13 feb 2012 04:13:54
jeremy lin over
ratted!! He avg almost 6 TOs Look at most pg and see how many turnovers they have and if you get twelve assist or ten or even seven his lowest so far than your doing more good plus his twenty three points per game also helps. and they are not saying he is better than derrick rose but that he is a great player for being undrafted and coming out of no where and look at his numbers since he has started if it was one or two games id say over rated but its been eight games stop hating i dont even like the knicks but see he is good
13 Feb 2012 04:06:52
Once he gets healthy, look out for Eric Gordon on the trade rumors. He has a lot of talent and has about as likely a chance of returning to the Hornets as a free agent as Lebron getting bitten by a Black Mamba.
12 Feb 2012 21:29:54
If lakers dont win knicks will win it lin running the pg melo with his points amare pick n roll chandler d there bench improved they can do it The knicks have as much of a chance as the hornets do.
LMAO If you think lin will put up the same numbers when amare and melo come back you obviously dont know anything
his numbers will go down when melo and amare come back not stay the same or increase Dont think lin numbers will decrease that much maybe twenty a game.. Cause lin can make 8 out of 14 plus free throws.. Melo still would eat and so will stat knicks gonna turn there season around As a bulls fan
I do think the knicks will turn it around and improve. But to think they are the favorites as the op said is crazy. The road goes thru miami/chicago
12 Feb 2012 17:52:20
Pau Gasol, 1st round pick, Devin Ebanks to Cavs for Ramon Sessions, Alonzo Gee, Antwan Jamison
L
12 Feb 2012 13:41:52
NBA trade rumors:
Pau Gasol, Darrius Morris to Jazz for Devin Harris and Paul Milsap
***Makes sense for the Jazz becuz they wanna trade Devin Harris and from wat I have seen wen I watch the Jazz.... that Devin Harris does not fit in that system and Earl Watson is a much better fit becuz it seems like the Jazz always get some sort of energy or play better wen Earl Watson comes into the game; he is just a better fit for Ty Corbin's system.
From Lakers standpoint; it makes sense becuz they get an upgrade at PG; Harris is a fast PG who would be rejuvanated to play lots of minutes for a team who can contend; Milsap can be a legit 16pt, 8-9reb guy and Milsap can give Bynum more space to operate in the post since he can shoot perimeter shots very good. Also Milsap will fight hard for rebounds unlike Pau
Jazz Lineup
PG:Watson
SG:Bell
SF:Hayward
PF:Gasol
C:Jefferson
**Better lineup if u ask me with 2 dominant bigs and shooters
Laker lineup
PG:Harris
SG:Kobe
SF:Barnes
PF:Milsap
C:Bynum
***Lakers would still have a glaring weakness at SF tho with Barnes/Artest getting most of the minutes.
Would it make more sense for Lakers to use trade exception and 1st round pick to get Harris or trade Pau for Milsap and Harris?!! Which one makes more sense on Lakers part? Jazz wont trade milsap to get an over the hill gasol.
when will laker fans realize
12 Feb 2012 01:52:01
Lakers need a point guard right now fast
11 Feb 2012 18:25:21
When melo and amare come backs knicks will win the east lin amare pick in roll melo outside jumpshot chandler D then the bench has improve but let lin play with the bench to this is a championship team if lakers dont win it the knicks will take it LMAO. Knicks cant beat the celtics, heat, bulls, hawks, pacers They wont even get past the first round Mello will hog the ball so no. They wont beat chi or mia Lakers??
are you 3 years behind us?? Knicks think they're the best team after beating crappy teams. They wont get past the bulls, heat, or even the magic.
11 Feb 2012 18:17:19
Lakers need to for get howard lakers go for session dam
11 Feb 2012 14:58:31
Why do laker fans think bynum is the second best center in the league he came back this year and had 1 good game have u seen his stats lately hot garbage
11 Feb 2012 13:34:26
Does Metta World Peace, Gasol for Iggy and Brand make much sense for Lakers?
Both teams take on one bad contract but improve in areas they really need to....
11 Feb 2012 09:18:11
Why is there so much hate for Pau Gasol?
All I see is people calling him old, and trash and nowhere near as well as he was in previous years.
Seriously, he's only a year older than Dwyane Wade and I've never heard anyone call D-Wade old...
He's averaging 17 and 10, only 5 people in the league do that, 2 of which are on the Lakers.
His numbers have dropped by like 1.5 points and 1 rebound, mainly due to Andrew Bynum's improvement.
Pau Gasol still has decent trade value, but, if I'm the Lakers? I don't trade him.
Heres what I'm trying to do.
1. Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu for Andrew Bynum, Matt Barnes, MWP, Steve Blake and 2013 1st RDP
2. Sign JR Smith (convince him Kobe does want him on his team)
3. Ramon Sessions for 2012 1st RDP (apparently this is on the table, but maybe not anymore, he's ballin') dude could easily average like 8ppg and 8apg in LA
These three transactions aid the Lakers 3 trouble areas: Point Guard, Bench, 3pt Shooting (Hedo)
LA Lineup:
PG. Sessions/Goudelock
SG. Bryant/Smith
SF. Turkoglu/MWP
PF. Gasol/Caracter/McRoberts
C. Howard/Murphy
(Magic remain a playoff team, Bynum averages 21 - 13)
PG. Nelson/Blake
SG. Richardson/Reddick
SF. Barnes/Q. Richardson/MWP
PF. Anderson/Davis
C. Bynum/Orton
Cash works out, realistically its unlikely all of this happens, but I would not be surprised if one of these works out.
If Dwight were to go to LA I'd love to see a playoff series between the Thunder and Lakers. Dwight vs his rival Kendrick Perkins, two of the greatest scorers Kobe vs Durant. Would be amazing.
I'd say at the very least we see the Lakers acquire Ramon Sessions, but at the end of the day, you can never count out a team with Kobe and the best front line in the league.
The team who gets hot in the playoffs generally wins the championship. I could see the Clippers, Lakers, Spurs, Nuggets, Knicks, Celtics, even Mavs, 76ers, Pacers and Atlanta all winning the championship on surprise surges.
11 Feb 2012 08:40:14
my nba2k12 not working whats happing with the game updates i cant even play it freezes trade kaman to the Rockets Last updated 2/5/12 Delete your game utilites ^ ive had to do that like 3 times the past 2 weeks. Wtf is going on?
11 Feb 2012 06:46:12
Jeremy Lin for LeBron James, Dewayne Wade, Chris Bosh, & 2 1st Round Picks
**Now before you hit unbelievable, I know this would set the Knicks back a bit, but Pat Riley is very crafty, and I think he could find a way to get this done. NY would have to wait about 15 years to get their first rounders, but all else looks good
11 Feb 2012 04:33:17
Knicks fans gotta be happy wit lin right? Guess what the second Melos back its linsanity no more. SO...
Philly who just realized they NEEEEDDDD a star in the clutch receives
Melo
Knicks receive Iggy and Lou williams
new line up
PG Lin/Williams (sixth man of the year canidate)
SG Fields/Shumpert
SF Iggy
PF Amare
C Tyson
and the sixers have
PG Jrue
SG Turner/Meeks
SF Melo
PF Brand
C Hawes
cmon man 76ers wont trade iggy and lou for Melo, the ball hog melo, and iggy is a all star this year
11 Feb 2012 04:16:11
LA has to blow up the team!! Package Bynum along with Artest similar to what Orl is tryng with D12 and then do the same with Pau and Blake! Get back some young pieces, expiring contracts and picks. Get younger!!
Trade away the 25 year OLD #2 center in the league!!
11 Feb 2012 04:13:04
well apparently jeremy lin is on fire as of late and he just finished a game where it did not have the knicks top 2 players in stoudemire who was out with a personal matter (brothers death) and anthony (injury) so he won a game against the lakers all by himself
WHO THOUGHT THAT LIN WOULD HAVE SCORED MORE THEN KOBE BRYANT???
LIN 38 BRYANT 35 Wait until mellos back its all over
10 Feb 2012 19:37:10
Lakers-Rockets-Jazz
Lakers get Scola, Harris, and a draft pick
Rockets get Pau Gasol
Jazz get Kevin Martin
Why?
Lakers desperately needs a PG and Scola could do a good job filling Gasol's position.
Jazz desperately need a SG and they have been looking to get rid of Devin Harris.
Rockets have been wanting Pau Gasol for a long time. He is the player that they are looking for. Hou was going to get Nene with Gasol. Thats why they wanted him. Houston is huge on international players gasol bring in fans to fill up there arena nightly. I like Laker fans excuses. GASOL WILL NOT FILL UP ARENAS
10 Feb 2012 18:54:00
This is to all you morons who said that the Rockets don't want Pau anymore and that they only wanted him to "lure in Nene". I just read this online "Sources: Rockets still want Gasol" But not for lowry, the same article said they wouldnt give up lowry for him, im okay with martin and scola but lowry is better than gasol and younger and they never did, and arent looking to trade him That same source said the Rockets wont trade Lowry. So what would the Lakers want? Lakers can get scola,flynn, martin plus ny pick for gasol, barnes, and jmr... kobe, martin, and flynn can rotate and throw blake in a lil bit.. then lakers amnesty artest after this season.. Sounds good ,Patterson will be better than Scola,trade for Kaman,good group - make it to second round or more - drop kaman after year - money to spend - great place for HOWARD
10 Feb 2012 07:13:54
Whos better? Tim Hardaway or DWill?
John Starks or Billups? Pippen or Pierce? Chris Mullin or Melo? Scalabrine beats them all. Dwill
billups
pippen
mullin
10 Feb 2012 04:49:59
Who is the best point gourd on the lakers?
My opinion os Goudelocke.
10 Feb 2012 01:27:41
Lakers fan: our 2nd unit is by far NBA's worst!
10 Feb 2012 01:20:49
pau gasol should have been a allstar over Dirk Nowitzki this year, dirk havent really done anything this year and pau gasol is averaging a double double Just shows that gasol is over the hill WTF??
Gasol does not deserves to be an all-star such as Dirk...
Lakers are bad like Mavs,and Gasol 16p,10rb and Nowitzki 18p,7rb...
It's not so big difference but bottom line is neither Pau or Dirk should be All-Star...
09 Feb 2012 23:13:04
Hawks signed Erick Dampier to a 10-day contract. Hawks are now unstoppable with the immovable force down low. What are they thinking? SMH
09 Feb 2012 17:54:22
If the lakers really want gee and sessions from cle its gonna take there 2 1st rounders and goudelock and prolly another prospect No two 1st for them
09 Feb 2012 21:49:40
This should be the mens USA basketball team starting line up for the 2012 olympics
PG:chris paul
SG:kobe bryant
SF:lebron james
PF:lamarcus aldrige
C:dwight howard Rose
kobe
durant
love
howard D.Rose
Kobe
Durant
Lebron
Dwight I think durant would play the 4 better then lebron bc i believe durant is taller Big time LeBron hater second comment. No way he doesnt start. And LeBron is a lot more physical than Durant. Lebrick sucks. How many rings does he have?
oh thats right he has ZERO.
LMFAO WOW!!
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HATERS LIKE THIS ACTUALLY EXIST!!
LeBron does'nt have ring...True...
Why??HE PLAYED ALONE ALL CAREER FOR 7 YEARS IN CLE!!SECOND BEST PLAYER WAS MO WILLIAMS!!
And yeah 1.yr in MIA was fail but Heat came to final and yeah maybe he choked but did you saw any all-around better player than LBJ??
through his career his stats are:
- 7.1rpg 7.0apg 1.7spg 0.8bpg 27.7ppg
No other player has no such statistics like King...And yeah he isn't clutch like KB,KD,Dirk but clutch doesn't make best players,it's a part of it but not whole player...And all greatest players had beside them 1 all-star player:
Kobe-Shaq
Kobe-Gasol
-MJ-Pipp
-Duncan-Parker
-Pierce-KG-Ray Ray
So don't talk s**t like this 'cause you don't know anything...
And yeah,LeBron has no rings in 27th year...but guess who get his first ring with 28!
HIS AIRNESS!!
So shut up,and don't talk crap like now!! Lebron sucks. no rings.
its all about the rings Lebrick will only win a ring when dwade carries him. he isnt clutch and is hated throughout the league How many rings? Really? The frozen one is overrated He tried to let Dwade carry them in the Finals and that didnt work to well. He played alone in Cle. Kobe played with shaq and pau and bynum. Mj had pippen If its all about rings then Horry is better than kobe 7>5. And bill russell is the best player ever with 10. Do you see how stupid your reasoning is? Until he wins a ring he can stop calling himself the king, too cocky ^ ill give you that one. But rings dont make kobe better. This isnt tennis, its a team sport
09 Feb 2012 18:26:43
Knicks will make the playoffs wait till knicks have there starting 5 players its rap..
Lin
Shumpert
Melo
Amare
Chandler
Ima say this and this coming from a laker fan knicks vs lakers friday if lin get 18-20 pts and get 8assist the knicks better give him a multi year contract he is the star wait till they get they lineup everyone go score big 3
Lin
Melo
Amare If Lin is the next big star at PG, Why not trade Melo? He is a ball hog! Trade him for more team players who can score like Granger,Gay,Iggy would be better then watching a good team watch Melo shoot the ball 30times and L Lin killed lakers cause they dont have a pg to stop him.. Lakers need to stop shooting 3's bottom line
09 Feb 2012 17:03:58
Celtics-Lakers
Rondo, !st round pick for Andrew Bynum, 2nd round pick.
09 feb 2012 14:14:30
bulls fans listen here bobcats pick is lottery protected 2012
top 12 2013
top 10 2014
top 8 2015
unprotected 2016
so it's obvious yall aint getting the pick until 2016 We know that already. thank you for stating the obvious.
do u want a cookie? lol I didnt know that so thanks
09 Feb 2012 06:58:06
Kevin Johnson or Nash, Starks or Jr Smith, Monte or Rider, Alvin Robertson or Rando, CWebb or Aldridge, Vlade or Bogut?
09 Feb 2012 05:53:57
I know we often see some wacky trade proposals, wanted to change it up, i call this "whos better"
KD or Dominique, terry porter or t parker, schrempf or crash wallace, mashburn or granger, Zo or D12 and lastly...wade or mitch richmond??
09 Feb 2012 04:59:20
That kid lin is the 1 he will be the starter for the knicks I want to c him play a harder team like the heat or lakers.they play lakers this friday
09 Feb 2012 03:07:29
Gonna take a lot more for lakers to get Sessions than a late first rnder after that performance against cp3.
09 Feb 2012 02:15:04
The NBA rigs it so the Hornets get the Number One pick.
Thanks for screwing us again Stern, just like 2004.
-Bobcats fans The lottery hasnt even taken place.
09 Feb 2012 02:05:41
Jeremy Lin
for
Bobcats next 6 first round picks
BOBCATS WIN EPICALLY!
08 Feb 2012 22:27:32
ORL/LAL
Orlando gets Gasol
LAL get Turkoglu, Duhon, Davis
08 Feb 2012 14:46:36
would there be a shot the wolves bring in jr smith to give them a legit scorer? If jr smith want a championship or a chance he going to clippers or lakers.. Lakers r just an offensive weapon away from being top team.. They miss odoms 15 points anight and can get that from smith.. If smith want money he sign with cleveland and he can start.. The lakers wont get out of the first round with kobe jacking up 30 shots
08 Feb 2012 14:40:32
Lakers need session as the pg Lakers need JR Smith
08 Feb 2012 14:27:25
who would you rather amnesty? world peace or walton? Walton Peace. Waltons is a year or two shorter Peace can actually play good defense Kobe... They both should retire
not like they would be missed
08 Feb 2012 09:35:23
Bulls are gonna win the championship because they have more depth than the heat and thunder When rose was injured john lucas had 25 points with hamilton and deng the bulls were still beast as long as taj starts at pf we got a title d rose deng and noah need to stay healthy
hopefully scal is gonna get in every night from now on because chicago has got this
Bulls have a good chance indeed.
But still I they want to dominate they should add another superstar like Howard.
Id to get howard but i wouldnt trade deng to get him
Didnt lucas take like 25 shots for 25 points? Thats not good. Mia beat Chi 2 weeks ago
OKC FOR THE WIN BABY they have an amazing team bulls or heat vs okc in finals that would be good any other suggestions for great finals match ups Bulls lost to heat bc they had no deng or rip. if both had played bulls would of won. they only lost by 4 and had 2 starters out
08 Feb 2012 05:51:56
For Everyone:
Every person who posts a trade on this site feels very passionate about their team enough to get here obviously.
So most likely when you feel passionate about a team you watch the games and 1 game can make you see that the players are better and more than just stats. so therefore everyone will overvalue all the players on their own team so stop bitching and realize that you are a culprit of this crime to and realize everyone is trying to be serious.
08 Feb 2012 00:03:47
Suns should have traded Nash earlier on this season to Toronto. He could have played a season in his home country, become a free agent, then sign with a "contender" or finish his career how he wants, re-sign. Who wants a ring with a team you've played with once out of your thirteen respectable years in the nba, Nash doesn't?; Dallas an exception.
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