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30 Apr 2017 16:48:43
With Vince Carter likely coming back for another year and he will be a free agent this offseason, I think he should probably leave Memphis and go ring chasing. Possible teams include:
-Celtics, Cavs, Warriors, Spurs, Jazz, Raptors, Rockets
•Which teams do y'all see him most likely signing with?

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30 Apr 2017 18:11:48
Well wait, maybe not the Warriors, didn't he make a negative comment about them and super teams one time?

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30 Apr 2017 19:31:05
For sixers fans . see this

Phila / Alfarouq Aminu - Shabazz Napier - Alan Williams

Portland / TJ McConell - TJ Warren - Richaun Holmes - Shaw Long

Suns / Ed Davis - Robert Covington - Jared Bayless

He does not do anything wrong these changes to the teams .

Malik Monk is selected on the 4 pick

Gordon Hayward signed (maybe 70 x 3 years)

Phila / Nick Staukas

Spurs / Dwayne Dedmon

How was this equipment?

Ben Simmons / Sergio Rodriguez / Napier
Gerald Henderson / MALIK MONK
Gordon Hayward / Justin Anderson
D. Saric / Al Farouq Aminu / Alan Williams
Joel Embiid / Jahlil Okafor / Dedmon.

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28 Apr 2017 18:31:28
Den - McRoberts (waive), Ellington, Singler, Abrines, and Okc 1st

- Adds 2 exp contracts and 1st
- Draft Jackson and Giles

Okc - Chandler and Miller

- Adds 3pt scoring and fills SF

Mia - Faried

- Trades 2 useless players for need at PF

Murray
Harris
Barton
Giles
Jokic

Westbrook
Oladipo
Chandler
Gibson
Adams

Dragic
Waiters
Winslow
Faried
Whiteside

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30 Apr 2017 05:44:57
ellington isn't useless.

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28 Apr 2017 18:23:50
76ers/knicks

Sixers get: Melo
Knicks get: Okafor.

Straight up deal. Sixers are only one of a handful of teams that can absorb melos 55 million over the next 2 years. Knicks get a 21 year old center who can score and fits nicely into the triangle offense. Knicks also free up a ton of money to improve team in other areas of need. Melo is 1 hour from where he grew up and not far from NY. Leaves with a ring in 2019.

Pg: Simmons
Sg: Monk
Sf: Covington
Pf: Melo
C: Embiid

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29 Apr 2017 15:31:35
Here's the issue with this. Okafor is awful. Zero defense. Thef be likely 4th on the depth chart. And really just a bad player. Knicks want, and will get, some value for melo. This certainly isn't that value.

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29 Apr 2017 15:49:00
Hamburger. I see your point. I guess i'm not as down on Okafor (certainly don't view him as a potential star any more, but a kid with skills none the less) as some are. And i have read that Jackson likes Okafor to a degree. Okafor is just 21. Should be a junior in college. I think he still has some upside. But i also can see knicks fans wanting more value for melo. You want 3 or 4 of your second rounders back over the next 5 years?

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27 Apr 2017 04:05:40
Can we talk about D-Wade?

Yes I am a bulls fan and he's been god awful this series and pretty much quit on this team (can you blame him?) so I have a bias. But is he really a first ballot HOF'er?

All 3 of his titles have come with HOF'ers in their prime on his team. Not just any Hall of Famers, but Shaq and LeBron. Arguably 2 top 10 player of all time. LeBron is probably already top 5 if not top 3.

To be clear I think he's had a phenomenal career and probably deserves to be in the HOF. But he's no first ballot IMO.

Do I have a point or am I way off?

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27 Apr 2017 14:07:39
Jordan won his with pippen
James won his Wade and Irving
Kobe won his with Shaq and Gasol

I don't think just because he won rings with shaq and LeBron will not make him a first ballot. I think he's a lock for it.

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27 Apr 2017 18:31:04
Right. And that's true of many superstars however all the guys you named were first options on their championship teams (with maybe an exception to kobe getting his first) .

Not sure wade has ever been the number one option on a championship team (You could maybe argue his first with Shaq, maybe? ) . He hasn't won a playoff series without a hall of fame player on his roster.

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28 Apr 2017 04:44:33
How many sgs do you definitely take over Wade without an argument in history? Jordan for sure, Kobe. Then there are a bunch you could probably argue, but none that are no question better than Wade. I'd say that he's first ballot.

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28 Apr 2017 16:44:26
He did win a playoff series last year with being the first option on a team that didn't have many other options. Whiteside wasn't all that great and played off the bench at times. And Dragic couldn't play well with Wade.

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29 Apr 2017 15:36:07
Wade averaged 27/ 7/ 6 that year. Shaw was 20/ 9. There is no argument to be made. He was the 1st option.

Lebron never won until he got with wade. Ever though lebron had better stats, everyone knows the first option of that team as wade. Lebron was never a prime time player. Always fading away. A long range jump shot instead of a drive when it counted the most.

Yes lebron has gotten a bit better. But when you look at those heat championships, it was because the heat got lebron. It was because lebron got wade.

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26 Apr 2017 23:57:14
Mock draft

1. Celtics - Fultz PG
2. Suns - Jackson SF
3. Lakers - Ball PG
4. 76ers - Tatum SF
5. Magic - Monk SG/PG
6. Twolves - Isaac PF/SF
7. Knicks - Fox PG
8. Kings - Smith Jr PG
9. Mavs - Markkanen PF
10. Kings - Collins PF
11. Hornets - Allen C
12. Pistons - Ntilikina PG
13. Denver - Leaf PF
14. Miami - Giles PF
15. Portland - Patton C
16. Chicago - Ferguson SG
17. Milwaukee - Rabb PF
18. Indiana - Kennard SG
19. Atlanta - Adebayo C
20. Portland - Dozier PG
21. Okc - Bacon SF
22. Brooklyn - Swanigan PF
23. Toronto - Kurucs SF
24. Utah - Patton C
25. Orlando - Anunoby SF
26. Portland - Lydon PF
27. Brooklyn - Mitchell SG/PG
28. Lakers - Jackson SF
29. Spurs - Ojeleye SF
30. Utah - Hart SG

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27 Apr 2017 06:03:02
I wouldn't be against 76ers taking Tatum but due to his poor 3pt shooting (although otherwise a very strong offensive player who likely will be able to develop deeper range since he is a good mid-range shooter) I think 76ers should consider Monk for the spacing it would provide the offense and since their backcourt is weaker than their front court (I don't think Tatum is limited to sf/ pf) .

Additionally Miles Bridges dropping out of the draft is a big blow to the Kings at #10. Since they already have 3 promising bigs (Skal, WCS and Papagiannis) I'm not sure I like John Collins at #10 since he projects as more of an athletic pf more so than the stretch 4 that most teams would covet. If you mean Zach Collins out of Gonzaga that works better since he projects more so as a stretch big although he may struggle defensively covering some pfs.

There doesn't seem to be a great fit there however so if I were Kings I'd probably just go with the best prospect available at #10 who in my opinion is Ntilikina. At 6ft 5 he has height to play either guard spot and with allegedly close to a 7ft wingspan maybe he could even play some sf at times in what could be an uptempo team with Smith, Hield, Ntilikina and WCS (runs floor very well for a center) . Kings will have plenty of holes so they should have plenty of minutes for Ntilikina especially in the backcourt.

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26 Apr 2017 18:53:40
Bucks get - Collion s&t and Afflalo

Kings get - Delly, Hawes, and 2nd

- Bucks add shooters to surround Giannis and also opens minutes for Thon Maker

- Kings get a good floor general to start off the year to let Smith adapt, opens up mins for young guards and adds big man depth

Bucks draft Jared Allen
Kings draft Isaac and Smith

Collison/Brogdon
Middleton/Afflalo
Giannis/Snell
Telly/Maker
Monroe/Allen

Delly/Smith
Hield/Richardson
Isaac/McClemore
Skal/Hawes
WCS/Koufos

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26 Apr 2017 04:35:10
So much respect for Westbrook. This man kept fighting no matter what. If KD had stayed, this team could've challenged and beat the Warriors this year. Golden State showed they don't even really need him that much, they just needed him to not be on OKC.

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26 Apr 2017 08:52:29
Shame that no matter how he deserves it, he's not going to get the trophy with M-V-P.

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24 Apr 2017 15:54:46
What reason is there to believe that George would stay in Indy? He has clearly stated that he'd stay if the can become a contender (they clearly aren't) and that he would be interested in playing for the Lakers (they have cap space, need for star power and a new regime in Magic that didn't draft the young guys there so doesn't have a strong attachment to developing them) .

All-nba voting will be tight for George but I think he gets traded regardless (potential extension can be leveraged to increase Pacers return) .

The interesting wrinkle is that Larry Bird is current President of Pacers and will likely have the option of dealing George to his old team Celtics or his arch-nemesis Magic who now heads Lakers. Celtics have the assets but are always gun-shy and are probably more so with George's public interest in Lakers (a potential early playoff exit could lead them to finally pull trigger) . I ultimately think Magic will give Bird an offer he cannot refuse as I believe he will want to put his stamp on the franchise and be the one who brings them back to prominence. I don't think Buss would shake up the front office the way she did if they were just going to develop the young guys. She brought in Magic to get a familiar face in there and bring lakers back to the golden days. I think that starts with George and with him aboard others will come flocking. In 2018 offseason they could potentially add talents like Westbrook, Cousins or more realistic ones like Melo and Brook Lopez.

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25 Apr 2017 00:49:54
Honestly, I doubt he stays, but they'll have a ton of cap space the year he hits the open market and Turner could be a beast in a few years.

The Lakers have a good a chance as any to land him and a reason to think he would stay, but I could definitely see a bidding war now that the number of stars who might be shopped is dwindling.

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25 Apr 2017 08:26:26
Personally I think he should go Boston for a package centered around Brooklyns no 1 pick and crowder.

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25 Apr 2017 10:19:37
With him publicly saying that he wants to play for Lakers would Celtics really be willing to give up that much without a guarantee he'll resign there? (I could see Celtics giving a similar maybe even slightly stronger offer for Butler since he is signed at least an additional year but he is becoming less likely to be moved with Chicago's performance in playoffs. )

Lakers could also give an arguably better package. I guess it hinges on them keeping their pick which is about a 50/ 50 toss up at this point. It will probably be the deciding factor of where he goes.

Which would you prefer?

#1 and Crowder
or
#3 and Ingram/ Russell

Crowder will be only 27 this summer and is signed cheaply until 2020 and a very solid starter and most agree Fultz is clearly best prospect.

I think Lakers would probably prefer to keep Russell over Ingram (although with they have a potential shot at getting Westbrook and with Clarkson as a filler maybe they move Russell) . Ingram/ Russell I think present significantly more upside than Crowder and Pacers would be guaranteed to retain them longer (assuming they match all offers in RFA) . #3 pick I think would be Ball who I think based upon his skill set would work well along two high level players although Jackson with his flexibility could easily work too. A potential trio of Ball, Ingram and Turner I think would set Pacers up for a promising future that would allow them to move on from George.

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25 Apr 2017 13:03:26
I understand that point of view for the pacers management to go no # 3 + Ingram

But I don't understand PGs desire to play at the lakers they have no star players, Russell and randle are still a few years away! No depth, he'll have no succes unless they are banking on signing a big free agent which they haven't since shaq in 96!

Bot Boston they have depth, a go to scorer in Thomas! He won't have to shoulder the offence so he can focus on being a lockdown defender again and will be competing for championships in the next few years!

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25 Apr 2017 15:40:09
I think PG13 just want a 200M contract

We should try to sign G Hayward in free agency and we should trade him for a Nets pick or the LA pick+ Ingram, if we can't land a good free agent.

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26 Apr 2017 02:01:33
I don't think the final offers will end up being a 3rd and Ingram or Crowder and the 1st. I also think other teams will be going after George. Plenty of the low level playoff teams and young teams about to compete could give solid offers. If any of the playoff teams in the East add George, they probably end up being the 2nd best team in the East and that would probably be enough to keep George around.

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24 Apr 2017 13:56:24
NY-Philly

Philly: C Anthony+ swap option 2018 draft

NY: Okafor+ swap option 2017 draft

Philly draft Monk

C: embiid
PF: Saric
SF: C Anthony
Sg: Monk
PG: Simmons

NY draft Fox


C Anthony can be a leader for that young team and Philly would draft Monk with the 4rth pick

NY receives a center with potential who's stock is low for the moment.

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24 Apr 2017 15:19:58
I never considered it but Melo wouldn't be a terrible fit for 76ers as they can use a go to scorer and his salary wouldn't be a concern for them. The only issue is whether he'd want to go there (although they have promising youth they haven't accomplished much) and how much the Knicks would want.

Not sure how keen the Knicks would be to give up pick in 2018 when they'd likely be tanking. I don't think moving up from #7 to #4 helps too much. 76ers with Simmons and Minnesota with Rubio and Dunn I don't think will be in the market for pgs and while Magic may possibly be I think they'll go after Tatum as they were after a perimeter scorer last season and Fox (although a better prospect) has many of the same strengths and weaknesses that incumbent Payton has. Even if Magic do take Fox I don't think there is a significant drop-off to Smith. Okafor I don't think is a difference maker in the trade especially as Knicks would be wise to try and groom Porzingis as a center where he is biggest matchup problem and Hernangomez turned in a solid season.

Adding in the draft picks complicates the trade. I don't think Melo's price will be all that high especially since 76ers likely won't be sending Knicks back any significant contracts. While 76ers are at it they'd be wise to try and snag Lee who would be a solid 3 and D starter, allowing Monk to take the back seat a little bit but thrive in that combo guard 6th man role.

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23 Apr 2017 00:43:30
Heat keep Winslow

Heat get Noah Melo 58th
Knicks get McRoberts Ellington Bosh-Waive all 3 and 16th

Dragic/Johnson/McCruder
Waiters/Richardson/Bluiett-58th
Winslow/Thomas/Johnson
Melo/Reed/Haslem
Whiteside/Noah/White

Knicks sign
CP3/Curry Durant Griffin 4yr 120mil 1st tier
Lowry Hayward Milsap 4yr 100mil
2nd tier
G.Hill Porter Ibaka 4yr 80mil
3rd Tier

Either should calm Porzingis demand for a trade and bring NY back in playoffs

Tier/Monk-7th/Morris-44th
Lee/Thornwell-16th/Randle
Tier/Kuzminskas/Early
Tier/O'Quinn/Inglis
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

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