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24 Aug 2015 18:57:22
HEAT SUNS

HEAT get : Markieff Morris

SUNS get : Josh McRoberts, Chris Andersen & 2018 1st round pick

HEAT get a more formidable bench with this acquisition while SUNS get 2 veterans to make some frontcourt depth plus a 1st rd pick

HEAT

G.Dragic/M.Chalmers
D.Wade/J.Winslow/T.Johnson
L.Deng/G.Green/H.Walker
C.Bosh/M.Morris/U.Haslem
H.Whiteside/A.Stoudemire

SUNS

B.Knight/A.Goodwin/R.Price
E.Bledsoe/D.Booker
P.Tucker/T.Warren
J.McRoberts/M.Teletovic
T.Chandler/A.Len/C.Andersen

Agree6 Disagree7

24 Aug 2015 20:46:36
Too much for Morris. If I were Suns I would be happy to get McRoberts and Birdman.

24 Aug 2015 16:17:39
SAC/PHX

SAC get Markieff Morris, PJ Tucker & future 1st rd pick

Pg Rondo/Collison/Curry
SG McLemore/Bellineli/Anderson
Sf Tucker/Casspi/Butler
Pf Morris/WCS
Ce Cousins/Koufos

PHX get Rudy Gay & Quincy Acy

Pg Knight/Goodwin/Price
Sg Bledsoe/Booker
Sf Gay/Warren
Pf Teletovic/Acy
Ce Chandler/Len

Agree1 Disagree14

24 Aug 2015 17:10:42
Kings need more offense

24 Aug 2015 20:48:12
I would go with Gay. Morris and Tucker they are solid role players and nothing more.

24 Aug 2015 21:30:05
Steal for phoenix

24 Aug 2015 15:51:38
ORL/POR

ORL get Damian Lillard

POR get Elfrid Payton, Mario Hezonja & 2016, 2018 1st round picks

ORL

Pg Lillard
Sg Oladipo
Sf Harris
Pf Gordon/Frye
Ce Vucevic

POR future

Pg Payton
Sg McCollum
Sf Hezonja (2016 pick)
Pf Vonleh
Ce Plumlee (2016 pick)

Agree1 Disagree20

24 Aug 2015 16:04:09
Neither team would do this

25 Aug 2015 14:36:05
So Orl give up Payton who destroyed lillard in their matchups, hezonja who fills a need in Orl and two future pic's for an overrated pg who can't play D pffffff no thanks. Also Lillard extended and Por wanna build round him so they won't be parting anytime soon.

25 Aug 2015 18:55:57
Lillard averaged 17,5,5 against Orlando last year. How did Peyton destroy him? (That triple double was an impressive game). Lillard is a top 10 league scorer going forward, Peyton is a poor mans Rondo. This is fair value for lillard, but I'm not sure either team does the trade. Orlando maybe if either does.

26 Aug 2015 14:05:24
I like Lillard, but this is a package that you would offer for a much better player. It's hard to see anyone giving this much value for him.

24 Aug 2015 15:46:50
OKC-SAC-WAS

OKC get Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Marcin Gortat & 2 1st round picks from WAS

Pg Westbrook/Payne/Augustine
Sg McLemore/Waiters/Roberson
Sf Gay/Morrow/Singler
Pf Ibaka/McGary/Collison
Ce Gortat/Kanter

SAC get John Wall & Otto Porter Jr

Pg Wall/Collison
Sg Bellineli/Anderson/Curry
Sf Porter/Casspi/Butler
Pf Cousins/Acy
Ce WCS/Koufos

WAS get Rajon Rondo, Kevin Durant & Steven Adams

Pg Rondo/Sessions
Sg Beal/Neal/Webster
Sf Durant/Dudley
Pf Nene/Gooden
Ce Adams/Seraphin

Agree2 Disagree18

24 Aug 2015 15:01:05
Bos - Min

Bos- a Bennett

Min- Jerebko future 2nd rd pick

Agree8 Disagree8

24 Aug 2015 17:14:54
Bennett is not worth that. He is a talent yet his value is low at this point due to inconsistent play and health problems.

25 Aug 2015 02:42:55
But who won tho

24 Aug 2015 14:56:03
Mil - nop

Mil - t Evans

Nop - oj Mayo, mcw 1st rd pick 2016

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24 Aug 2015 14:44:52
Was - M Morris j Johnson

Pho - r Anderson

Tor - nene L Babbitt

Nop - p Patterson t ross

Agree1 Disagree12

24 Aug 2015 16:05:14
Toronto gets ripped off here

24 Aug 2015 14:25:32
Phi - orl

Phi - t Harvey

Orl - 2nd rd pick

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24 Aug 2015 09:27:00
4 Way trade
Nop-port-rap-minn

MINNESOTA
Receive - Kaman
Miller

Trade - pekovic (contract)
Bennett

PELICANS
Receive - Ross
Patterson

Trade - Anderson
Probably a draft pick

RAPTORS
Receive - Anderson
Bennett

Trade - Patterson
Ross, caboclo

PORTLAND
Recieve - pekovic
Caboclo

Trade - kaman
Miller

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24 Aug 2015 14:09:27
I don't know if Toronto would be willing to trade cabolo but the trade seems even

24 Aug 2015 14:15:59
Toronto says no.

24 Aug 2015 02:20:12
POR - DEN - MIN

POR get: Nikola Pekovic & Wilson Chandler

Pg. Lillard
Sg. McCollum
Sf. Chandler
Pf. Vonleh
C. Pekovic

DEN get: Kevin Martin, Anthony Bennett & Shabazz Muhammed

Pg. Mudiay
Sg. Martin
Sf. Muhammed
Pf. Galonari
C. Nurkic

MIN get: Kenneth Faried, Chris Kaman(exp), Mike Miller (exp), Gerald Henderson (exp)

Pg. Rubio
Sg. LaVine
Sf. Wiggins
Pf. Faried
C. Towns

Agree4 Disagree15

24 Aug 2015 05:09:17
I actually think every team passes. Portland wants young talent. Minny just gets robbed, they're not just dumping salary needlessly. And Denver gets a sidegrade at best.

24 Aug 2015 09:34:17
Why Minny got robbed? They would get rid of almost 20 mil in bad contracts, add fine players in Faried and Henderson and two good vets and Martin is 7 mil for one way player so only Shabazz is a young player with potential.

24 Aug 2015 14:39:32
Bennet will end up being an expiring contract, so no worries there, if the Wolves trade Martin they want value for him. Faried makes as much as Pekovic and is overrated and they lose Muhammad. Wolves absolutely get robbed

24 Aug 2015 15:35:37
As wolvesfan said. Here's the breakdown of the trade for minny in my eyes:

Pekovic and farried have similar value on similar contracts. Farried might have a tiny bit more value, but a straight up trade would be fair.

Martin and Henderson are kinda the same as above. Similar value on similar contracts. Martin has a bit more value, but not a lot.

Kaman and miller for Bennett is two expiring contracts of old men for one expiring contract of a young guy. I'd say this is a simple downgrade for minny. Why not keep Bennett one more year and see if he does anything?

So now your are at giving up shabazz for . nothing.

24 Aug 2015 17:30:34
Faried has a bigger value than Pek. He is younger, healthier and it is a chance he will be a ok defender. Pek is way too often injured and a bad rim protector. That is a problem when he can only play 5 cause most good centers should be ok rim protectors. When you play at 4 your main goals does not include focusing on rim protection. Faried is also a high energy guy and not high on energy bars guy. But yeah, they offer many similar things.

Don't get me wrong I like Martin very much yet I would always get a 2 way player like Henderson.

And the thing with Bennett - it is doubtfull he will get some more playing time so this experiment will fail so maybe it is bettr to get two good vets.

24 Aug 2015 19:28:39
Faried would be better suited as an energy guy off the bench, yes he stays healthier than Pekovic, but if Pek does stay healthy, he performs as well as, if not better than Faried in every way.

Miller and Kaman are not "good" vets any more, they are average to bad vets, and while I would still want them more than Bennett, I wouldn't want them at the price of Shabazz

24 Aug 2015 20:51:56
Yeah I like Shabazz tooo, would love to see him in NYK ;)

As for Pek - he can stay healthy for 4 seasons in a row?

25 Aug 2015 18:57:36
Can farried stay healthy the next four years? High energy guys get hurt, he could easily have his career fall off.

Also, he's a bad defender. Defensively pek and farried are similarly bad.

26 Aug 2015 08:34:13
Yet with Faried it is a small chance he will improve a bit and it is easier to find a 5 who will cover for him in that area. Finding a gooood defensive 4 that can do some good rim protection is a lot hader.
I absolutely agree with the high enery guy easily geting hurt. Good point. In case of a major injury Faried could become a way bad player.

23 Aug 2015 23:54:01
BOS-OKC

Boston gets Adams, morrow, Novak, 2 mil cash

OKC gets Bradley, and Zeller

Boston gets a good, young center and morrow and maybe Novak will be good floor spacers. And if they have to waive Novak the 2mil will pay for it.

OKC needs a two way player beside Westbrook and KD which Bradley is with great perimeter d and solid three point shooting. And Zeller will be a decent replacement for adams.

BOS
Smart-IT-Rozier
Morrow-young-hunter
Crowder-turner-jones-novak(maybe)
Lee-johnson-jerekbo
Adams-olynyk-mickey

Westbrook-payne-augustin
Bradley-waiters-roberson
KD-singler
Ibaka-collison-mcgary
Kanter-zeller-johnson

Agree5 Disagree9

24 Aug 2015 07:46:37
Adams, Waiters and Novak for Bradley and Zeller

24 Aug 2015 09:35:31
To get Adams I would do it and give also Young.

24 Aug 2015 16:40:16
Celtics already have to many players on the roster. They need a trade designed to give up more players than they are taking back or 2 for 2 but one of them they receive is Waverable. Maybe zeller and Bradley for ibaka and Novak and 2mil cash. That way they get a rim protector and can wave Novak. Forces Boston to go small at the 5 but it could work

23 Aug 2015 19:28:33
Celtics get Serge Ibaka and Andre Roberson

Thunder get Avery Bradley and Jared Sullenger

Agree4 Disagree12

23 Aug 2015 16:20:56
Thunder-Raptors

Thunder get Derozan and Patterson

Raptors get Ibaka and Waiters

Agree4 Disagree14

23 Aug 2015 16:11:48
Sixers get Clarkson and Randal
Lakers get their own 1st round pick back, the Kings 1st round pick currently owned by the Sixers, and Okafor.

Agree2 Disagree14

23 Aug 2015 18:17:01
Dude philly in real life sixers wouldn't trade more than the okc and Miami pick for clarkson. You trying to take this way to far

23 Aug 2015 18:27:56
Your trying way to hard to be a troll and to be funny

23 Aug 2015 18:39:27
Philly how about Noel okafor embiid sixers lakers heat Thunder kings picks wroten Covington grant Holmes bs Landry to the Blazers for Damian lilard. Seems like a fair trade

23 Aug 2015 19:22:13
Part of making a deal is to understand both sides of the equation. You wouldn't accept the Lakers and Kings picks for Clarkson. In the past you've rejected drafting Okafor because he wouldn't fit with Randal. I'm trying to figure out how to get Clarkson. This is how deals are made.

Assuming Okafor is of higher value than Randal, and assuming there was not enough value for the Lakers in the two picks in return for Clarkson, I'm adding incremental value to the deal.

The deal's on the table:
Sixers get Clarkson and Randal
Lakers get the Lakers and Kings first round picks and Okafor

Take it or leave it. The deal expires when I crack open my happy hour beer. The pot will not be sweetened any further. When I'm done with my beer I'll go to another team and try to get my second choice of guards.

23 Aug 2015 21:57:48
Leave it. Get your second choice of guards and enjoy your beer

23 Aug 2015 22:01:31
There's going to be plenty of available guards so you probably don't have to think about it a lot

23 Aug 2015 23:03:11
Here you go Phillyrich

Clarkson, Hibbert, & '16 2nd rd pick

For Noel, LAL 1st rd pick back & J Grant

23 Aug 2015 23:04:41
I respect your strategy. Cold beer on a hot day works every time. I don't see many obtainable young pg's with a lot of upside. I say we get a serviceable vet( Chalmers, Huertas, Cole) to play point and then draft Jamaal Murray to be the pg for the next 5-7 years.

23 Aug 2015 23:14:35
I really don't like okafor. He just seems one dimensional. He will be an 15 and 8 guy but I'm not sure if he'll get to 20 and 10. He's slow can't make free throws no defense no jumpshot. Randle is very quick starting to show improvement from the jumpshot. Even if his defense is bad he can make up with it with his speed. I'm really glad lakers took my favorite player in the draft rather than okafor

24 Aug 2015 05:22:48
Jvoung your guy huertas signed with another euro team because he received no interest from the NBA. How hot is it in philly anyway

25 Aug 2015 21:37:30
Been out of town. Here's my response:

1. King, you've exposed yourself as a complete phony. I always knew you were but it took this type of incremental approach for you to prove it for the rest to see.

You are not a moron, but a phony. You get your jollies by berating Sixer fans at most every opportunity as overvaluing their players. Look in the mirror. There's no objective person that would reject either the 2 first round picks or the added cherry on top of the Okafor/Randal swap. Clarkson's a good player. He's not Magic Johnson. Get over yourself.

2. Every time there's a trade involving a Sixer that gets rejected by a Sixer fan, from this point forward every Sixer fan should simply say "He's a core player. We want to keep the young core together and let them grow." Under those circumstances, there is no trade EVER that would drag Covington, for example, away from the Sixers. "Sorry, he's a young core player. We reject the offer of . " Your response should be, "Yes, I understand." Instead you belittle and mock as a child would.

3. You didn't want Okafor because he won't be a 20/10 guy and might just be a 15/8 guy. Andrew Bynum was not once a 20/10 guy and even in his best years did not average both 15 and 8. (I said average and I said both.) Although a headcase, Bynum was a very good NBA player that a team could win Championships with. If Okafor turns out to be a healthy Bynum without being a head case, he'll be a darn good NBA center for many years to come. Personally, I think he'll be better- especially because he's a very good passer and has a very strong work ethic and leadership skills.

The problem we have here is one of PERSPECTIVE and OBJECTIVITY. You obviously- based on the above- have none or if you do its consistently shifting yet you mock others for what you consider the same flaw.

Therefore there's no use trying to have an objective debate or dialogue since you are incapable of doing so. Which means there's no use participating on this website.

I may decide to rejoin legitimate conversation in the future.

25 Aug 2015 23:34:22
Look at you Philly mr tough guy aren't we. How ever said we were comparing Bynum and okafor. Bynum actually could play defense which okafor can't but Bynum had maturity problems. I'd rather have the clarkson Randle potential than okafor and like laker dynasty said that we wouldn't want to wait for a player to grow. Mock me all you want Philly. I'm not leaving the site

25 Aug 2015 23:37:42
Philly your a moron who has thinks sixers are going in the right direction. They've been living off of top picks and trading players for more picks and not singing anyone in free agency because free agents don't know the direction of the team. They trade for more picks with salary dumps. I rejected the Covington trades because clarkson I feel like has more potential than Covington because frankly Covington is only a three point shooter at this point. Wroten was a small sample this year playing only 30 games and having not so good shooting numbers.

25 Aug 2015 23:43:24
I don't jolly myself with berating sixers fans when they start it. We have different opinions so deal with it. clarkson isn't magic. Clarkson is more explosive while magic could do everything on the court and play every position which clarkson can't do. Never compared the two so you got over your self trying to bolster your argument. Sorry I try to use stats which prove you wrong sometimes. Will Covington really help the sixers in the future if he only chucks up threes? Probably not. Mitch kupcheack has come out publicly and said he wants to keep Russell and clarkson together. Like I said sixers would never do it because they don't want a point guard which is a key if okafor becomes better than Bynum like your saying.

25 Aug 2015 23:44:30
Like I said a bunch of guards are available. You posted a lakers trade and most of the time I say something on the post. So you have to be prepared for the response and not get all hurt about it

26 Aug 2015 00:04:27
If okafor was to be like Bynum he would in his best year have to average 19'points 12 rebounds and shoot 70 percent from the free throw line and be regarded as the second best center in the leauge at the time. You asked me if I would take that deal and I said no. Now you say that I'm being a child for answering a question you asked me and you got hurt over it. Kinda like what my friend asked me about his wife before asking her to get married. He asked me what I think she was on a scale of one to ten. he was mad at me for not saying ten when he asked me for my own opinion like you did. Just wanted to throw that out there if your uneducated

26 Aug 2015 00:52:14
Phillyrich this isn't a big deal, don't make it one.

26 Aug 2015 05:24:59
Kiks he always does make it a big deal.

23 Aug 2015 04:38:36
Cha - Okc

Spencer Hawes and a 2nd for Steve Novak and Steven Adams

Agree0 Disagree19

23 Aug 2015 00:46:07
NYK - POR - CHI

NYK get: Noah Vonleh & Jimmy Butler

Pg. Grant
Sg. Butler
Sf. Afflalo
Pf. Vonleh
C. Prozingis

POR get: Nikola Mirotic & Joakim Noah

Pg. Lillard
Sg. Henderson
Sf. Mirotic
Pf. Davis
C. Noah

CHI get: Carmelo Anthony, CJ McCollom, & Robin Lopez

Pg. Rose
Sg. McCollum
Sf. Caremlo
Pf. Gibson
C. Gasol/Lopez

Agree3 Disagree16

23 Aug 2015 16:33:57
Jimmy butler is better then melo

24 Aug 2015 05:11:55
I don't think mirotic can play SF full time. Portland is already overloaded with bigs.

And Chicago would never do that, that would be a major downgrade overall.

22 Aug 2015 21:40:06
Rumors about twolves and blazers working on a deal.

Min - c kaman m miller

Port - pekovic Bennett

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23 Aug 2015 15:58:55
Right not going to happen

24 Aug 2015 05:12:21
Both teams pass, I don't see it happening.

24 Aug 2015 09:42:10
I don't see a reason for Portland to add Bennett. They have Vonleh and Davis and I don't see Bennett as sf. Portland can take Pek contract and add a big body and use Davis as rim protector at that time, like it will be with Kanter and Ibaka and Monroe and Henson, yet Minny must add something to that deal, like 1 rd pick.

22 Aug 2015 20:06:52
Sixers get Clarkson
Lakers get their own 1st round pick back AND the Kings 1s rounder pick currently owned by the Sixers.

Agree2 Disagree10

22 Aug 2015 22:01:00
PhillyRich:. make it all 4 of sixers first round picks and the kings 2018 #1 pick for Clarkson, and give us swaggy P back. Five #1's might do it.

22 Aug 2015 22:31:42
Clarkson is not worth 2 first round draft picks

22 Aug 2015 22:53:46
They wouldn't get the Laker pick alone for Clarkson.

23 Aug 2015 01:14:42
Too much phillyrich1

23 Aug 2015 01:39:13
You don't own SAC's '16 1st rd pick, the 76ers can swap their own pick with the King's. 76ers will have a better draft pick than SAC (so they won't swap), so are you saying we get the 76ers own 1st rd pick & our own pick back?

23 Aug 2015 02:52:55
Really philly? That pick won't convey until 2018 most likely

23 Aug 2015 05:24:37
This also sets back lakers rebuilding process another year or maybe 2-3 depending I the player. Something Mitch kupcheak doesn't he said they don't have time to build through the draft every year

23 Aug 2015 15:53:19
Look at you jvoug. Most people on here agree Lakers get the shaft if you just give them their pick back for Clarkson and you get all bent out of shape and say something sarcastic like that. "Five #1's might do it." Don't get mad just because nobody agrees with you, that's childish.

Not every team "builds" through the draft. I use quotes because in my opinion you can hardly call what the 76ers are doing building. They're acquiring talent every year but not getting any better. Soon it will be a revolving door when these rookies can leave, they will. Lakers have enough youth and mortgaging their immediate future for more unknowns through the draft is foolish. They're actually trying to win and compete for a title again so they need to acquire free agents or trade for players to fill in around them, not picks.

23 Aug 2015 16:10:28
New Laker Dynasty: Sixers own the Kings pick top 10 protected to convey two years after the Kings pick goes to the Bulls. The earliest the pick would be is 2018. Then the pick is completely unprotected the following year. This is the pick included in the offer for Clarkson.

So the offer is the Lakers pick back from the Sixers plus the Kings pick as just described for Clarkson.

King declined the trade.
NLD: Do you decline this offer?

23 Aug 2015 16:37:05
If I was la i'd keep that young core together. Right now most of those guy have little value because of injuries or not enough time in the league to prove themselves. I'd keep Randel russel and clarkson close. That's a nice core for the future after Kobe retires and you have hibberts and Kobes contract off the books so you can sign good free agents next season if possible.

23 Aug 2015 18:18:40
Tregib gets it. Keep the young core intact

23 Aug 2015 21:35:05
@ Phillyrich
My fault, I understand now.

I'd still decline. Like I said before, where the Laker's pick will likely end up isn't worth it and a pick that will be conveyed in 3 years from now won't help us get back to the playoffs ASAP. If the Lakers strategy is to build through the draft, then I can see making that trade but they don't. They trade for and sign free agents so they don't have to develop a lot of rookies. This is the best young core they've had in a while, I think its best to keep them together, let them develop and go through their growing pains and continue to trade for and sign veterans who can make them contenders.

24 Aug 2015 01:04:40
You know how there is a site for laker trade rumors, there should also be one of those for philly.

24 Aug 2015 05:23:51
Agree with kiks

22 Aug 2015 17:13:26
Bulls Get: Brandon Jennings

Pistons Get: Taj Gibson

Jackson/Blake/Dinwiddie
Caldwell-Pope/Meeks/Bullock
Morris/Johnson/Granger
Gibson/Ilyasova/Tolliver
Drummond/Baynes/Anthony

Rose/Jennings/Brooks
Butler/Hinrich/Moore
Dunleavy/McDermott/Snell
Gasol/Mirotic/Portis
Noah/Bairstow/Felicio

Agree8 Disagree6

23 Aug 2015 05:00:58
Pistons want to play a stretch 4.

23 Aug 2015 15:59:44
Detroit is not going to rade one of their new acquistions until they have tried to work with them in the system and see how it fits.

24 Aug 2015 00:49:42
Brandon Jennings is not one of their new acquisitions but I know what you meant

22 Aug 2015 15:40:50
Minn -Portland

Twolves get Miles Lennard

Blazers get Pekovic and Anthony Bennett

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22 Aug 2015 15:52:42
Blazers wouldn't say yes to this, Wolveso get a nice young player for two bad contracts

22 Aug 2015 16:47:51
Yeah, as the wolves fan said, Portland really likes Leonard (he's a potential top tier three point shooter).

If minny wants to unload pekovic, I don't think Portland would trade more than mike miller's contract and a second rounder for him.

22 Aug 2015 20:28:14
Maybe something around Lennard for Pek and 2rd picks from both sides.

27 Aug 2015 08:25:04
Who on Earth is Miles Lennard?

22 Aug 2015 14:38:28
PHX - POR - MIN

PHX get: Gorgui Dieng, Anthony Bennett, & Chris Kaman (exp)

Pg. Knight
Sg. Bledsoe
Sf. Warren
Pf. Dieng/Bennett
C. Chandler/Len

POR get: Nikola Pekovic, Kevin Martin, PJ Tucker, & Future MIN 1st Dp

Pg. Lillard
Sg. Martin
Sf. Tucker
Pf. Vonleh
C. Pekovic

MIN get: Markieff Morris, Mike Miller (exp), & Gerald Henderson

Pg. Rubio/Jones
Sg. Wiggins/LaVine
Sf. Muhammad
Pf. Morris/Garnett
C. Towns

Agree3 Disagree15

22 Aug 2015 15:39:28
Wolves give up way too much, Morris they could get cheap because he wants out. And they expect value out of trading Martin, and it sounds like a deal already fell through between the Wolves and Blazers, most likely involving Pekovic

22 Aug 2015 13:46:09
Sixers get Clarkson
Lakers get back their own 1st rounder

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22 Aug 2015 14:45:08
Trade has already been posted. On this same exact spot from jvong you said you would only trade the Miami first and a second round pick

22 Aug 2015 15:38:20
And lakers say no chance.

22 Aug 2015 15:42:42
I don't want it at the expense of Clarkson. We know what we have in Jordan and everyone in the orginization is praising this kid (Nash said the sky's the limit on his potential). That pick will likely fall between 7-10 (7 if Kobe is injured and misses a large portion of the season again, 10 if they can manage his minutes and get 65 games out of him). Best case scenario, you get a guy who develops into an all-star in 3-5 years. Clarkson is already on that trajectory (not saying he is or is a lock to be an all-star, but with his talent, work ethic, and attitude, I think he will be an all-star reserve in the near future). Worst case you get a bust like Jimmer or Austin Rivers. If Clarkson continues to improve and turns some heads this year, he'll help attract top tier free agents, a rookie in the mid to late lottery will not.

22 Aug 2015 16:31:56
I think his worst case is what people compared him to in draft and that was Rodney stuckey. He was drafted 46 and turning into stuckey isn't bad. But he could become a mini Westbrook( not saying he will be on Westbrook level) he drives to the rim passes good and rebounds very well for his position. Much rather have a guy who's proven himself and still improving than probably a project player

22 Aug 2015 17:55:39
I think Sixers would pass. A top ten pick is too much for clarkson right now. He has been good for one season and one season only. He wasn't. A first rounder so this kind of production was a surprise. He's got more to prove then other guys because of his draft spot. Just my opinion. He looks promising but not that great yet.

22 Aug 2015 20:27:47
Disagree with just about everything lakers just said lol. First, if Kobe plays 65 games. not sure why they aren't a fringe playoff team. There are definitely many worse teams than the lakers. Second, clarkson showed he's relatively capable. That's it. Not all star. Not superstar. Just can make it in the league. Which is more than most mid first rounders. Tends to be hit or miss.

Additionally, the lakers wouldn't give him up for their own pick. That way if they win, they get less. It doesn't make sense as a whole.

23 Aug 2015 02:00:29
Pizza
I don't think they will be a playoff team if Kobe can stay relatively healthy only because of their youth & inexperience. They'll be starting 2 rookies essentially (Russell & Randle) and Clarkson is in his 2nd season. The west is still too good for them to crack the top 8.

I didn't say he's an all-star right now. He showed he's one of the top 5 rookies last year. With the skills he's shown and his potential, work ethic, etc, I think he can make the all-star team in 3-5 years (not voted as a starter, but make the team). All I'm saying is I'd rather roll with him as is right now and the potential he has to improve in a few years than a mid to late lottery pick and all the unknowns that come with them.

23 Aug 2015 02:55:55
Tregib just because they were drafted in the first round doesn't make them starts already. Numerous NBA players that are key players have been drafted in the second round. Draymond green, Marc gasol, manu ginobili, Isaiah Thomas

22 Aug 2015 11:01:18
CHA-CHI-MIL

CHA get Taj Gibson, OJ Mayo, Tony Snell & 2nd from CHI

Pg Walker/Lin/Roberts
Sg Mayo/Lamb/Daniels
Sf Batum/Snell
Pf Gibson/Kaminsky/Hansbrough
Ce Jefferson/Hawes

CHI get Mkg & Cody Zeller

Pg Rose/Hinrich/Brooks
Sg Butler/Dunleavy
Sf Mkg/McDermott
Pf Gasol/Mirotic/Portis
Ce Noah/Zeller/Bairstow

MIL get Marvin Williams

Pg Mcw/Vasquez/Ennis
Sg Middleton/Vaughn/Bayless
Sf Giannis/Copeland/Inglis
Pf Parker/Williams/Obryant
Ce Monroe/Henson/Plumlee

Agree2 Disagree11

22 Aug 2015 09:55:47
BKN-PHX

BKN get Markieff Morris

Pg Jack/Larkin
Sg Johnson/Ellington
Sf Young/Rhj
Pf Morris/McCoullough
Ce Lopez/Bargnani

PHX get Bojan Bogdanovic & Thomas Robinson

Pg Bledsoe/Goodwin
Sg Knight/Booker/Bogdanovic
Sf Tucker/Warren
Pf Robinson/Teletovic
Ce Chandler/Len

Agree6 Disagree9

22 Aug 2015 09:30:21
IND-CHI-PHX

IND get Markieff Morris

CHI get CJ Miles, PJ Tucker & IND protected 1st

PHX get Doug McDermott & Taj Gibson

Agree1 Disagree12

22 Aug 2015 07:52:33
Celtics get Dion Waiters and Steven Adams

Thunder get Tyler Zeller and Avery Bradley

Agree11 Disagree11

22 Aug 2015 19:18:03
Celtics say hell no. Adams is better than Zeller, but not by a lot while Bradley is way better than Waiters.

23 Aug 2015 04:26:48
Definitely Boston says no, Adams is younger and gets a block more a game than Zeller but I'd take Zeller over Adams and Bradley is better. Now getting Ibaka I'm sure Ainge will try to accommodate.

22 Aug 2015 01:31:08
76ers / Suns / Lakers

Sixers get: Jordan Clarkson

Lakers get: Markieff Morris, Denver's #2 2016

Sun's get: JGrant, OKC #1 next year.

Sixers get a good young pg.
Lakers get a proven Pf with more size then randle. Morris is a legit 17 and 7 threat every night, and is only 25. Plus Lakers get a high second rounder in the 31-35 range most likely.
Sun's get a high energy, young forward in Grant. Showed a lot of potential last year. And Sun's get a late first rounder in return for the unhappy Morris.

Agree1 Disagree9

22 Aug 2015 05:24:02
Why won't this stop. Lakers have Randle and bass they don't want another power forward who's legal problems who could get worse in la. They want Russell and clarkson for the future

22 Aug 2015 05:37:59
If you want Clarkson, Noel has got to be worked in the deal somehow. We have a lot of PF and are invested to give Rabdle every chance to develop, succeed and be our PF of the future. Noel's the only player I'd be interested in on the 76ers.

22 Aug 2015 05:42:55
76ers had their chance to draft clarkson twice int he second round. And maybe even three times if they moved up from 47 to 45. Just draft one next year if you even will.

22 Aug 2015 05:44:41
Funny how you said a couple weeks ago about how me being a thirteen year which I'm not, and only wanting to hear want I think we'll if you look at it your kinda like a 5 year old saying "I want candy" "I want candy" but your saying "I want clarkson" "I want clarkson"

22 Aug 2015 05:47:17
Morris with more size thank Randle? Morris barely has an inch on him and Morris and Hibbert would be horrible rebounding the ball. If the sixers want someone from the lakers it's either going to be Ryan Kelly Robert sacre or swaggy p. I don't think you guys want them

22 Aug 2015 06:05:44
You went from having Morris become unvalueable by having sixers trade Landry and Holmes for him to know having lakers trade clarkson for him. Funny how the value goes the sixers way ALWAYS for ypu

22 Aug 2015 06:10:40
Lakers say hell no

22 Aug 2015 13:41:52
Is Clarkson playing along side Russell in the backcourt? Or are the Lakers planning on going with the two together?

22 Aug 2015 14:46:56
Philly this is our starting lineup
Pg Russell
Sg clarkson
SF Kobe
PF Randle or bass
C Hibbert

22 Aug 2015 15:46:51
It is funny how jvubg in one post goes clarkson is worthless then in a new post makes a trade that is absurdly weighed towards the sixers. The lakers won't be trading clarkson, especially for that miserable offer. Noel and okafor have the only value on the sixers. And sorry, but it's no where what you think it is. Noel has zero offensive game and shows little chance for much improvement. He is also way to frail to guard the big centers. Okafor shows little interest in playing defense which clearly is an issue. Heinke made this mess. And while things are better than a few years ago, it's all potential down the road and these types of trades won't ever happen. No team is dumb enough to make these deals.

22 Aug 2015 16:09:39
Pizza: I would like for you to point out the post when I called Clarkson " worthless"?? I am a huge fan of Clarkson. Please show me when I called him worthless. Please. It just never has happened. You simply type lies to bolster your argument. Childish. Even for you pizza.

22 Aug 2015 17:26:05
The king:. do you need a time out? You're making my argument for me with your posts. Re-read them, you sound pathetic. Again, how many of the trades posted on this sight have EVER happened??? They don't. Its just fun a games for fans. Relax and go get your school supplies.

22 Aug 2015 17:59:31
This trade won't happen. Lakers don't get enough. Morris is overrated and frankly I bet Randel has a better career then Morris. Lakers would need a first rounder for sure. Just don't know what first rounder.

22 Aug 2015 20:29:10
Jvubg. You call everyone childish. Tad sensitive are we ma'am?

22 Aug 2015 20:34:14
Sorry jogue. I believe I got you confused with tregib. My bad. You both are highly sensitive, degrade women and call everyone childish or immature compared to yourself. Easy to get confused ;) FYI, if you want me to prove all that, I can direct you to your post where you said I act like your wife in only hearing part of what people say, or when you insult people who disagree with you by calling them little girls. Quite sad lil man. Quite sad indeed.

22 Aug 2015 21:35:27
I call it like I see it. Sometimes if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, I just might call it a duck.And my wife and I get a laugh out of reading responses on here. I'll try to be more pc for your sensitive feelings Pizza. And I make a point of holding back any insults until the first jab is taken at me. Anyway, back to all the trade proposals. It's all fun pizza.

23 Aug 2015 03:00:10
Agree with pizza 100 percent. He's always right when it comes to sixer fans

23 Aug 2015 03:06:05
Jvong I think you need to learn how to read. You really really need help. I'm bashing your trade ideas not helping your argument.😂 good luck this year

23 Aug 2015 14:36:17
Jvong are you sure you have a wife and aren't a ten year old? It sure seems like it

23 Aug 2015 15:26:12
It's amazing how jvubg has this high horse where he and his made up wife apparently cyber bully together and then attempt to insult others because they aren't cool enough to do it? I'm not sensitive to it. It's just sad. Also hypocritical seeing as you keep saying don't be emotional it's just people expressing their ideas. Yet you and your wife sit in your apartment at night looking for ways to insult people on a message board? Pretty cool boss man. Pretty cool. Echo everyone else. Good luck next season. I'm sure the sixers will win a solid 20 games. Maybe. And good luck with this classy dame of yours. Nothing spells romance like sitting in a room at night making fun of fictitious online handles lol.

23 Aug 2015 15:41:39
The king:. Let's just keep it on the court. Nothing personal, but I hope your Lakers suck so the pick is better for Philly.

23 Aug 2015 18:26:02
Jvoung if the lakers suck they'll be a better chance of keeping the pick. Lakers won't be worse than the sixers for sure though. At least you got the Eagles to cheer for

23 Aug 2015 22:14:33
Actually, I'm a Steelers fan. Football has been good to me, not so much bball as of late. Here's to a healthy Embiid, Dario coming over, progress from Noel offensively, Okafor winning ROY, Stauskas getting his shot back, and drafting any combination of Simmons, Murray, and Ingram. Hope the next 5 years are better then the last 5.

24 Aug 2015 05:26:05
Saric who knows. Embiid question mark. Noel maybe. Stauskas young but coming off horrendous season. Simmons and Murray probably not

22 Aug 2015 00:42:18
HOU - OKC - WAS

HOU get: Marcin Gortat, Enes Kanter & Otto Porter Jr

Pg. Lawson
Sg. Harden
Sf. Porter Jr
Pf. Kanter
C. Gortat

OKC get: Bradley Beal, Dwight Howard, Kelly Oubre, & future was 1st dp

Pg Westbrook
Sg. Beal
Sf. Oubre
Pf. Ibaka
C. Howard


WAS get: Kevin Durant & Terrence Jones

Agree3 Disagree13

22 Aug 2015 06:04:26
Pg wall
Sg Dudley
Sf Durant
Pf jones
C nene

22 Aug 2015 15:47:30
Houston immediately becomes terrible.

22 Aug 2015 16:33:32
Why would porter start over Ariza?

22 Aug 2015 19:21:23
Yeah Houston wouldn't do that

22 Aug 2015 22:36:02
After Houston stops Laughing they say No

21 Aug 2015 23:57:45
Cha - lac

Cha - j Crawford

Lac - c Zeller

Agree2 Disagree8

21 Aug 2015 21:57:11
Raptors get Serge Ibaka

Thunder get Terrence Ross, James Johnson, unprotected 2016 1st round pick


Pf. S. Ibaka/ L. Scola
Sf. D. Carroll/ B. Cabloco
C. J. Valencunas/ B. Biyambo
SG. D. Derozan/ N. Powell
Pg. K. Lowry/ C. Joseph

Pf. E. Kanter/ J. Johnson
Sf. K. Durant/ K. Singler
C. S. Adams/ M. Mcgary
Sg. T. Ross/ D. Waiters
Pg. R. Westbrook/ D. Augustine

Agree2 Disagree7

 


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