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21 Jan 2025 11:21:58
Deal 1)Atlanta sends Capela (exp contract),Nance Jr(exp contract)Hunter or Bogdanovic if Bogdanovic add a future 1st. If Hunter no pick added.

Portland sends DeAndre Ayton,Jerami Grant

Deal 2)

Atlanta sends Capela,Nance,Hunter, Bogdanovic,Kobe Bufkin filler players contracts so the money works and a future first.

Portland sends Ayton,Grant,Afernee Simons. This allows Portland expiring contracts,removed log jam at key young acquired positions notably (C)Clingan and (SG)Shaedon

Helps Atlanta get bigger and stronger in the front court,Gives Trae a true pick and roll big that can shoot from the perimeter. Grant a grimey playoff forward depth at SF and PF. A legit scorer at (SG)with Simons although a little undersized

Dukey99

1.) 21 Jan 2025 14:09:57
First trade seems better but it can be simpler. ATL does not need Ayton, since they can have Okongwu at 14m as a starter.

ATL: Capela (exp), Bogdanovic (exp next year) and Krejci

POR: Jerami & D. Reath (to make money work)

Jerami's value given his contract and the season is having is low, and given his age POR needs to trade him. Cap Flexibility a 1st and a flier on a young role player is enough value.


2.) 21 Jan 2025 20:55:01
The Hawks are not winning a title with Okungwu as a starter. He is undersized, can't shoot, doesn't run the pick and roll with Trae like he needs from a big. Too many Hawks fans don't understand the importance of Trae having a pick and roll big that can shoot from the perimeter.


3.) 22 Jan 2025 09:47:07
Only problem is that Ayton can't shoot from the perimeter, he is overpaid and lacks the drive to be a 3rd optin. If Okongwu can bulk up a bit his size is not an issue (see Adebayo, Draymond, Tristan Thompson) . He has the defensive potential to be a starter on a championship team, while Jalen Johnson can be the P&R Big on offense instead.


4.) 22 Jan 2025 13:35:19
Ayton can shoot from the mid-range. I do see his lack of desire sometimes but his 7'1" frame against Giannis and other bigger forwards and centers is the biggest need. We just agree to disagree on Okungwu he is barely 6'9 his effort and hustle is great but he basically a young Capela which ain't saying much. Good role player good salary but you not winning with him.


 

 

30 May 2024 14:01:31
Atlanta sends-Capela (exp),Hunter, Bogdanavic, Okungwu,2nd Rd pick


Portland sends Ayton,Grant, Brogdan (exp)

Gives Atlanta a bigger front line move Brogdan after trade to save on cap space draft Sarr 1st overall. Ayton would work better with the pick & roll with Trae, Murray,Grant, Johnson, Ayton.

Gets Portland out of the tax with smaller contracts to move so they can rebuild around their young talented backcourt faster. I think Hunter & Okungwu would work well with Portland guards the pick & roll that Trae runs does not work well for them.

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1.) 01 Jun 2024 03:17:17
Absurd trade for Portland could get far better offers for grant and ayton.


2.) 01 Jun 2024 03:22:16
For instance if Portland willing to trade Ayton and grant kings would give up huerter, Barnes, Mitchell, Lyles, vezenkov and this years 1 st round pick.


3.) 01 Jun 2024 11:23:11
@Hyena 1 I hear you but I don't think Portland makes that type of trade with Sacramento. The Only real value from Sacramento is Sabonis & Fox which I know they aren't moving for Grant & Ayton also this moves puts Sacramento in the heavy tax apron. Secondly it returns Portland 2 guards to a guard heavy team with Scoot Henderson, Afernee Simons, Matisse Thybulle, Malcolm Brogdan. They have no room for 2 more guards. Harrison Barnes does not help them. Hunter & Okungwu would mesh well with their young backcourt. It's only a few teams willing & able to take on 60 million from just 2 players.


4.) 01 Jun 2024 14:10:48
To be fair kings should only offer the trade for grant not ayton but your offer regarding hawks offers nothing of any value to Portland. Barnes helps them if loses grant so how about Barnes huerter Lyles and a 1st for grant?


5.) 01 Jun 2024 19:12:12
@Hyena1 I think you are overvaluing Grant. He is a 30 yr old 3rd or 4th scorer on a title contender with 4 yr/ 150 million contract owed. Portland will find it hard to move that contract. Rebuilding teams are not carrying a player that age with that type of money. It's maybe 3 teams that would & maybe 5 that could. Sacramento ain't taking on that type of salary for 5 pt bump at that position between Grant & Barnes. Portland will have to take back less than desirable names if they want rebuild that squad before their rookie back court get to their next cont.


6.) 02 Jun 2024 01:32:09
I’m a kings fan and would do that trade immediately to get grant without having to give up Murray. Getting out of Barnes and huerter contract for grant would be an ideal fit for kings…. think this trade makes sense for both sides.


 

 

12 Jan 2024 01:27:29
Atlanta/Portland

Atlanta sends Capela,Hunter, Bogdanavic,1st pick

Portland sends

J Grant,Ayton

Upgrade Atl roster
Gives Portland movable contracts as they rebuild around the young backcourt

Dukey99

1.) 12 Jan 2024 07:49:42
Why would they trade Ayton?
They can built arround Henderson-sharpe-Camara-Ayton and R williams.


2.) 12 Jan 2024 11:36:31
@Gasupo great question. Not too familiar with the direction that the blazers wanted to go but I thought Moses Brown and R Williams was their future at center. I could definitely see Ayton as their future though.


 

 

13 Jun 2023 22:48:19
Atl- Phoenix -Pacers.

Atl-gets:
Myles Turner,Buddy Hield & (2nd Rd pick) from Pacers
better perimeter shooting.

Suns get:
Capela and 2nd Rd (32)from Pacers
Suns get cap flexibility. Better paint defender.

Pacers get:
Bogdanavic, Okungwu & Ayton.
Land the center they want plus a young PF.

Dukey99

1.) 14 Jun 2023 03:11:37
Does this make sense to Atlanta? Seems like they are sending OO for nothing.


2.) 14 Jun 2023 12:15:19
Well maybe it would be fair to kick the Pacers for a late 1st round pick (27th) overall instead of a 2nd Rd pick. But Okungwu doesn't have the value most Hawks fans think he has. He was severely over drafted, undersized, no offensive or defensive perimeter presence role player. You got to have something to pry Hield for Bogdanavic.


 

 

22 Sep 2022 14:40:28
Hawks send Capela, Bogdanavic and 1st Rd pick

Pacers send Turner and Hield

Hawks need to go all in. The Murray trade was good but they still don't have enough to get into 4th or better in the East.

Pacers retain a defensive anchor while they rebuild. Plus another 1st rounder.

Dukey99

1.) 22 Sep 2022 18:14:36
Not sure that Turner + Hield add anything more than what Capela + Bogdanovic bring to ATL. Not sure this trade gets ATL "into the 4th of better in the East" either.


2.) 22 Sep 2022 18:52:29
turner being able to space the floor gives their offense and pick and roll / pop and more options and unpredictability. also can unlock collins more as a roll man and turner never played with a pick and roll passer like trae nor has he had that type of spacing. Pacers should get a better return cappela and bogdonavich have less value to their team than others maybe send these to the lakers and get two unprotected firsts while taking on russ contract.


3.) 22 Sep 2022 19:02:29
I can see a Turner/ Capela swap with like 2-3 2nds coming from Atlanta, but losing a first and Bogdanovic for Hield isn't going to help them, despite how much I like Buddy.


4.) 22 Sep 2022 22:15:26
@Fredman I disagree. I believe Turners size helps in matchups that Capela struggle with. Turner is definitely a better perimeter defender and scorer. @AHooper is 100% correct Collins took a step back because Capela clogs up the lane because he can't make a dam layup. Bogi legs are gone Hield is a much better defender & better 3pt threat. Hield could be a starter if injury hit us in a long NBA season. I definitely think we could climb into the top 4 in the East with those upgrades. The contracts are even the only thing the Hawks would be losing are draft picks. The trade for Murray is "all in" move the draft will not be our friend for the next 5 years. We are locked into Trae & Murray extension. There is no turning back at this point. Go all and try to win a title with that squad. Capela & Bogi ain't gonna get you there.


5.) 23 Sep 2022 08:37:57
Turner better shot blocker, Capella better rebounder. Rather have the 5 rebounds than the 1 shot block.

Dukey said that Turner never played with P&R guard. That is false. P&R is about all Haliburton runs as a PG.


6.) 23 Sep 2022 13:44:49
Fredman haliburton got traded mid way through last year to Indy and Turner got injured. They haven't been playing together.


 

 

 

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22 Jan 2025 13:35:19
Ayton can shoot from the mid-range. I do see his lack of desire sometimes but his 7'1" frame against Giannis and other bigger forwards and centers is the biggest need. We just agree to disagree on Okungwu he is barely 6'9 his effort and hustle is great but he basically a young Capela which ain't saying much. Good role player good salary but you not winning with him.

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21 Jan 2025 20:55:01
The Hawks are not winning a title with Okungwu as a starter. He is undersized, can't shoot, doesn't run the pick and roll with Trae like he needs from a big. Too many Hawks fans don't understand the importance of Trae having a pick and roll big that can shoot from the perimeter.

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16 Jun 2024 11:38:16
As a Hawks fan I can tell you we have some of the dumbest fans on the planet. They know nothing about basketball they just root for the team. Weirdest bunch I've ever seen. You would be hard pressed to find a Hawks fan that is disgruntled about the Hawks given Bogdan Bogdanavic 7 yrs worth of contracts totaling 140 million fans of teams like Boston, Mavs, NY teams would cuss them out if they signed players like that to those types of contracts.

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16 Jun 2024 11:34:15
As a Atlanta fan it really makes no sense it doesn't make us a better team. It's like making a trade just to be making a trade. Not sure where the rumor that Trae & Murray doesn't play well together comes from. They are actually great together their strengths and weaknesses compliments each other well. The problem with the Hawks are Capela, Bogdanavic, Hunter& Okungwu in that order. They suck up 80 million & none of them average 15 points a game convert that 80 million through trade for a 20 or a night wing a rim protecting big who can pick & roll with Trae & we could move into top 5 in east. This draft nor trade does that for Atlanta.

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03 Jun 2024 17:55:24
Reaves won't get you Murray. We already have Bogdanavic why add Reaves? They are both over paid bench players.

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