Miami Heat Rumours

22 Jun 2017 14:26:07
Knicks

NYK- #4 pick, Brandon Knight, Dragon Bender
PHX- Kristaps Porzingis

The Suns would make a lot of sense for Porzingis. They have Booker, Bledsoe and Chriss to build around. Adding Porzingis to that group can give them some serious potential in a few years.


NYK- #14 pick, Josh McRoberts
MIA- Carmelo Anthony

The Heat would like to get someone to attract LeBron next year. Melo is good friends with him and could offer a good core or Whiteside, Melo, Dragic. The Knicks shouldn't expect to get much more than a fringe Lottery pick for Melo.

DRAFT
4- Josh Jackson, SF
8- Dennis Smith, PG
14- Luke Kennard, SG


C- Joakim Noah/Willy Hernangomez
PF- Kyle O'Quinn/Dragon Bender
SF- Josh Jackson/Josh McRoberts
SG- Courtney Lee/Luke Kennard
PG- Brandon Knight/Dennis Smith


This gives the Knicks some young players to build around and salary to offer Max contracts to upcoming FA. The Knicks need a rebuild and this would be the only way it makes sense to me.

22 Jun 2017 14:53:15
Put in bledsoe instead of knight and its a good trade.

22 Jun 2017 15:25:27
I don't understand how moving 21 yr old Porzingis who has proven himself to be a potential superstar makes Knicks better. He is probably one of the better young building blocks in NBA so I think its foolish to deal him away for Bender (who has looked like a bust thus far) and #4 pick (I think Jacksons gone by then so its Tatum who I think is safer option but doesn't have as much upside) and Knight who doesn't look the same after his injury.

22 Jun 2017 05:52:11
Knicks Get: 4th pick, Dragan Bender, Marquese Chriss, 2018 Miami 1st

Suns Get: Kristaps Porzingis, Joakim Noah

22 Jun 2017 10:11:06
Take out Miami pick.

22 Jun 2017 14:02:10
Aznbv you add nothing.

22 Jun 2017 02:19:00
Heat : millsap(s&t), schroeder
hawks : dragic, #14 pick, mcroberts(waive)

Heat:
- sign hayward, milos teodosic,larry sanders
- resign j johnson, waiters, haslem, ellington
- let babbitt and reed walk

schroeder/t johnson/teodosic
waiters/richardson/ellington
Hayward/winslow/mcgruder
Milsap/j johnson/white
Whiteside/sanders/haslem

21 Jun 2017 21:00:14
Hawks discuss s&t trade for Milsap, so Heat could add another big reason for Hayward to sign in Miami in FA

Hawks trade Milsap (s&t, 4y 100m)
Heat trade 14th pick, Ellington, McRoberts

Hawks add 14th pick in deep draft 2017 and veteran experience on expiring contracts

Heat:
- sign Hayward 4y 120m, vet PG & C
- resign J.Johnson, Babbitt, Haslem
Dragic/Richardson/vet PG
Richardson/T.Johnson/McGruder
Hayward/J.Johnson/Babbitt
Milsap/J.Johnson/Haslem
Whiteside/vet C
- replace Milsap and Hayward for McRoberts and Ellington to last years Heat and you get an immediat title contender
- bring T.Johnson and J.Johnson as 6th men both, lead bench with hustle plays and high-motor
- need to add pieces at PG and frontcourt but Pat Riley is a master in that

21 Jun 2017 22:41:15
Let's not go as far as to say title contenders, neither Hayward or Millsap are a true difference maker, this would make them a top 5 seed though.

22 Jun 2017 00:20:43
Still can't beat LeBron.

21 Jun 2017 17:26:43
LA Lakers crazy Offseason


•Trade: Lakers-Pacers-Suns-Jazz

-LAKERS get Paul George, #4 pick (via PHO), #52 pick (via PHO), and a 2018 2nd (via IND)
-PACERS get Dante Exum, Jared Dudley, #27 and #28 picks (via LAL), and Miami 2018 1st (via PHO)
-SUNS get #2 pick (via LAL), Luol Deng, and Derrick Favors
-JAZZ get Eric Bledsoe

•Trade: Lakers-Celtics-Knicks

-LAKERS get Avery Bradley
-CELTICS get Kristaps Porzingis
-KNICKS get Julius Randle, #3 pick, Boston 2018 1st, Lakers 2018 1st (or Kings 2019 1st via BOS), and a 2019 2nd (via BOS)

•Draft De'Aaron Fox

•Free Agency:
-Re-sign Nick Young 1yr 13m
-Sign Terrence Jones 1yr 5m

Lineup:
PG: Fox, Clarkson, Nwaba
SG: Bradley, Young
SF: George, Ingram, Brewer
PF: Nance, Jones
C: Lopez, Zubac, Black

Then they still should have cap room for another all star in 2018.

21 Jun 2017 20:18:34
Don't think that the Lakers will be able to get back the #4 pick along with George while giving up the #2 and off loading Deng.

21 Jun 2017 22:30:56
Seems very one sided towards the Lakers for both trades. The first one you get George by and the number 4 pick by giving up your current 3 1st round picks. And in the second one you get Bradley but only give up Randell and Boston looses all of the assets that they have built up over the years, if the Lakers through in some of their own picks I would be less suspect of the trade but I would still rather have Bradley, now especially since we won't be draft in Fultz.

20 Jun 2017 22:07:28
4 way trade Suns Cavs Bulls Pacers

Cavs receive
George
Butler
Ellis
Dudley

Suns receive
Love
Lopez

Pacers receive
Knight
Chandler
Frye
2017 #4 pick from Suns
2021 1st round pick from Cleveland

Bulls Receive
Thompson
Al Jefferson
Shumpert
2018 first round pick (miami) from suns
2018 2nd round pick (Toronto) from Suns
2019 2nd round pick (LA of Minn, Least fav) from Cleveland
2020 2nd round pick (Portland) from Cleveland

21 Jun 2017 00:39:02
PHX Mgt hears this. laughs a lot. recovers in time to hang up. No way Suns do a deal like this. period.

21 Jun 2017 01:54:50
Irving must be in trade. Love value is declining fast.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:23
Phxfan, it's been reported that they've thought about moving the 4 for Love. It gives them a cheap star that they control for 3 years.

21 Jun 2017 08:27:30
Cheap is right, Love isn't what he used to be! Everyone talks about Bledsoe being injury prone, why not bring up the fact that Love is injury prone, Suns dnt need that and I hope they're not wanting to trade for him!

20 Jun 2017 21:50:25
HEAT summer
heat : russell, randle, mozgov
lakers : dragic,t johnson, mcroberts(waive), #14 pick
let babbitt and reed walk
sign hayward, milos teodosic, briante weber

russell/teodosic/weber
waiters/richardson/ellington
hayward/winslow/mcgruder
randle/j johnson/white
whiteside/mozgov/haslem

20 Jun 2017 18:06:01
Knicks Rebuild

NYK- Jae Crowder, #3 pick 2017, 2018 LAL/2019 SAC pick (Bos)
BOS- Kristaps Porzingis

Boston essentially trades the 1st pick, and Jae Crowder for Porzingis. They are the favorites to sign Heyward as well. This gives them a starting 5 of Horford, Porzingis, Heyward, Bradley, Thomas. Very strong team to compete in the East. The Knicks love Josh Jackson and could select him at 3.


NYK- #14 pick
MIA- Carmelo Anthony

The Heat were able to shed Bosh's contract. Melo would bring another piece to a pretty solid core. Maybe this could lure in Lebron next year.


The Knicks would have picks 3, 8, 14 this year and most likely two top 5 picks next year (their own and LAL pick if its between 2-5). They would be able to spend money in FA and attract some bigger names with a good young core.

20 Jun 2017 18:55:34
AJ- Don't think Knicks are trading Zinger. For the Knicks to trade Porzingis within division, it will cost Boston at least Crowder AND 3 #1's. Not sure if that's what you posted.

20 Jun 2017 21:23:34
Crowder and two top 5 picks seems like fair value for porzingis. I like this deal for both sides.

19 Jun 2017 23:46:04
Rumor has it Butler to Minnesota heating up again.

If I am Minnesota I offer Wiggins, Aldrich, and 7th pick for Butler and pick 16.

Minnesota still can draft a good you player and have cap space to add another asset or 2.

20 Jun 2017 02:10:43
They shouldn't give up Wiggins for Butler. At 22 Wiggins isn't far off from being an allstar.

20 Jun 2017 02:37:20
WIth Butler another year older and Wiggins another year developed (he really improved his 3pt shot just needs to work on defense where he has been a lot worse than predicted) I think this trade makes less sense than a year ago. Especially with the #7 pick involved where they can complete their lineup with perfect pf prospect in Issac. If LaVine were swapped for Wiggins I'd be alright with Twolves doing it or potentially if Dunn were swapped with #7.

19 Jun 2017 19:41:53
Heat

PHX- Gordon Dragic, Kyle O'Quinn, 2019 NYK (Lottery protected)
NYK- Eric Bledsoe, Dragon Bender, Josh McRoberts
MIA- Carmelo Anthony

Sign Gordon Heyward to MAX


C- Hassan Whiteside
PF- Carmelo Anthony
SF- Justice Winslow
SG- Gordon Heyward
PG- Tyler Johnson

19 Jun 2017 21:14:41
Makes no sense for Suns. What are they giving up Bender for? Dragic is older and a worse fit for that team than Bledsoe is. New York is getting way too much back for Melo although I think Miami would be a good fit for him.

19 Jun 2017 22:15:03
HEAT do not want melo.

20 Jun 2017 01:55:08
Niko, Heat would gladly take Melo for the right price (Johnson and a future pick) .

19 Jun 2017 19:03:28
1st trade:
Pacers trade George to Lakers for #2, #28, 2019 1st and Clarkson

2nd trade:
Pacers trade #2 to Suns for #4 and #32 and 2018 Heat 1st (Suns want Ball)

3rd Trade:
Trade Young to Atlanta for #19 and #31 (Need to replace Millsap)

4th Trade: Trade #19, #28, #31, #32, #47 to Orlando for #6 (Orlando is rebuilding and needs picks)

Draft Fox at #4, Isaac at #6, Ferguson at #18
Resign Miles and let Teague walk.

Lineup:
Fox/Stephenson/Young
Clarkson/Ferguson/Ellis
Robinson III/Miles/Niang
Allen/Isaac
Turner/Seraphin/Jefferson

Thoughts?

19 Jun 2017 21:42:28
I doubt Lakers give up that much for George. I don't think they'll ever include #2 pick but if they did that's all they'd need since I don't see any team outbidding that for a 1 year rental (they could probably add Deng or Mozgov and still get away with it) .

The second trade is alright although if I were the Suns I'd be fine at #4 where I'm guaranteed to get Ball, Jackson or Fox all who could fit well in that team (move Bledsoe for another draft pick in this draft or young asset) .

3rd trade is a little rich for Young since Hawks wouldn't be that good if they lost Millsap and could get a more reasonable replacement with #19 pick that would build them toward the future around Schroeder and THJ.


The Fourth trade I don't think those picks move you all the way up to #6 especially in this deep draft and from a team like Magic who is already young but needs a young player with superstar potential which is much easier found at #6. They already have a bunch of alright young player and adding 5 players to any roster is tough; 2 or 3 of those would have to be stashed overseas which really limits your selection.

19 Jun 2017 16:59:44
Heat-Pacers

Heat gets: Paul George

Pacers: Dragic, Winslow, #14

Heat

sign Lowry and Ibaka

Lowry
Waiters
George
Ibaka
Whiteside.

19 Jun 2017 17:22:51
Not enough.

19 Jun 2017 19:35:17
Pacers want a rebuild not an older point. Waiters fits better for the trade but I still don't think that's enough.

19 Jun 2017 22:00:30
I could potentially see Pat Riley doing an aggressive move like this. It would be better if a team like Nuggets was brought in to take Dragic and provide younger assets to go to Pacers but I think Winslow and #14 is a strong start. Its a bit of a reckless move for the Heat since they are assembling basically an entire new team from scratch and hoping it will work well enough to convince George to stay but the Heat don't have that bright of a future so this gamble may be worth the risk.

I can't imagine many teams willing/ able to beat that offer.

19 Jun 2017 22:18:29
we can trade for pg13 and sign hayward
and also sign teodosic instead of lowry.

19 Jun 2017 16:15:26
Lakers big three around Paul George :

Indiana get Jordan Clarkson and Josh Jackson

Okc get Brandon Ingram and Dangelo Russel

Miami get Julius Randle and Ivika Zubak

Lakers get Paul George, Russell Westbrook and Hassan Whiteside

19 Jun 2017 16:46:50
I take it you're a Lakers fan?

19 Jun 2017 17:03:21
You live up to your name on that one. AIRBALL!

19 Jun 2017 18:42:44
And they will all play together on Fantasy Island.

19 Jun 2017 19:37:38
You forgot to have Chris Paul and LeBron sign in LA too.

18 Jun 2017 16:21:44
Suns Get: 2nd pick, Luol Deng

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 2018 Miami 1st, 2018 Raptors 2nd


Magic "is in love" with Fultz but the Lakers don't stand a chance to get him now, so moving down and are guaranteed to still get one of Ball, Jackson and Fox. Phoenix take on Deng's preposterous contract but get to get whoever they feel the 2nd best player in the draft is.

18 Jun 2017 18:03:37
Some minor reworking to your deal.

Suns Get: 2nd pick, Luol Deng, Lakers #28 pick 2017

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 2018 Miami 1st, Suns #32 in 2017, Brandon Knight

Suns take Deng's nasty contract. get some of it relieved by the Lakers taking the remainder of Knight's deal. (about $5m per year to the good for LA)

18 Jun 2017 23:56:26
Although Deng's contract doesn't hurt Suns cap space is still valuable and they are still giving up a Miami pick where there is no telling what team they'll be (Team they started as which was one of worst in league or one they ended as which record wise was one of best in the league for that stretch) .

I like Phxfan's trade more from a value perspective although Lakers entire motivation of doing this trade is that they don't need Josh Jackson at #2 with George saying he wants to come aboard next year and may still be able to get Ball at #4 while clearing cap space to get George and some help for him next offseason. Only clearing 5 mill per year and moving back a few spots to 2nd round (although contract isn't guaranteed which is a plus) makes it a lot less appealing.

19 Jun 2017 00:28:05
If Lakers are trying to clear cap space for 2018 free agents, taking on Knight's contract doesn't make sense.

Just #2 and Deng for #4?

18 Jun 2017 08:00:42
Heat Get: 9th pick

Mavericks Get: 14th pick, 21st pick

Thunder Get: Josh Richardson


Miami move up from the late lottery and can target players that possibly wouldn't be available where they were originally picking (Ntilikina, Smith Jr. or Markkanen).

Dallas get a good return for a mid lottery pick in a deep draft class, aiding their rebuild in the long term.

Oklahoma buy low on Richardson after a year plagued by injury and hope he can replicate the shooting prowess he displayed during his rookie season.

18 Jun 2017 00:58:41
If Lowry leafs in free agency


LA Lakers: Derozan

Philly: Deng+2nd (Jackson)

Phoenix: 3rd (Ball)

Tor:Mozgov+ 4th (Fox)+ 1rnd Miami 2018+ 1rnd pick LA 2018+ 1rnd sac 2019

18 Jun 2017 04:31:31
Boston will own #3 on Monday. If rumors are true!

18 Jun 2017 08:18:12
If we don't believe the Rumors you think philly gives #3, LAL 2018 1st, 2019 Kings 1st and take the 50 million for deng to climb 1 spot?
And lakers give mozgov and deng and #2 for derozan.
I would love that trade for the lakers but not for the others.

16 Jun 2017 21:59:29
Suns Get: 2nd pick

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 32nd pick, 2018 Miami 1st

16 Jun 2017 22:50:47
no deal Suns want Ball to play with Booker so if they want that Lakers want Suns 2018 pick not Heat 2018 pick and Suns can keep the 32nd pick.

16 Jun 2017 23:01:07
suns gets 2nd pick
lakers get 4th pick 2018 miami 1st

16 Jun 2017 23:02:11
Too steep a price for PHX. Suns could offer that package to Boston for #1.not that they would, but it could happen.

15 Jun 2017 01:53:12
Talk of the Kings trading 5 and 10 to move up and get Fox are heating up soooooo......

Sixers offseason

Trade 3 for 5 and 10
Draft Monk at 5
Trade 10 and the Lakers 2018 pick to the Warriors for Klay Thompson

Ben Simmons
Malik Monk
Klay Thompson
Dario Saric
Joel Embiid

15 Jun 2017 06:32:24
Love it as Sixers fan but not enough for Warriors.

14 Jun 2017 17:12:05
Heat Offseason

Trade: #14 pick, Winslow, Tyler Johnson, Josh Richardson to Indy for Paul George and Jefferson

Sign: Gordon Hayward (max) and Rudy Gay (2 year, 20m)

Heat Starting Lineup:
Dragic/
Gay/
George/
Hayward/
Whiteside/

14 Jun 2017 20:42:56
Don't think that would be enough for Heat to get George but if they could pull that trade off it would make signing Hayward much easier. That starting lineup would be 2nd best in the league with 2 clear top 25 players and 2 guys who are borderline all-stars as well as Rudy Gay who is versatile. The big issue would be they'd have no depth. I doubt they'd have much cap space left so they wouldn't be able to resign Waiters or Johnson so they'd effectively have to get an entire bench through FA with likely only MLE, bi-annual exceptions and minimum contracts at their disposal.

11 Jun 2017 16:35:30
spurs: O'Quin

NY: T Parker+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick spurs 2018

Miami: C Anthony

Spurs sign K Lowry for a 4y/100M
And Reddick 3y/ 45M

C: O'Quin/ Gasol
PF: LMA/ D Lee
Sf: K Leonard/K Anderson
SG: Reddick/ Green
PG:K Lowry/ Murray

NY draft:
Smith or Ntikilina
and: Justin Jackson

C: Hernangomer/ Noah
PF: Porzingis/Plumlee
SF: J Jackson/Kuzminskas
Sg: Lee/ Holiday
PG: Ntikilina/Parker

NY hit the free agent market in 2018

11 Jun 2017 16:42:22
The trade isn't bad, but the Spurs won't end up with any where near for the signings.

11 Jun 2017 17:48:52
Spurs won't deal Parker, though they should.

11 Jun 2017 23:26:21
Texas has a great taxregime, so can see Lowry and Reddick accept those contracts.

12 Jun 2017 03:14:28
Paul would obviously be the preference but Lowry wouldn't be a bad pickup. Reddick would be a good fit too.