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26 Jul 2016 20:15:06
Wolves get Josh Richardson
Heat get Shabazz Muhammad
Wolves get a shooter they need off the bench and the Heat get a guy who could potentially play some PF with Winslow depending on how the Bosh situation plays out.
Not entirely sure on the value of Richardson and I know some people don't think much of Shabazz, but he has shown potential as a scorer and is only 23.
27 Jul 2016 02:28:43
Wolves need to give more. Richardson plays both offense and defense and is a shooter which the Wolves need. Shabazz wasn't very good last year.
27 Jul 2016 05:04:33
I couldn't imagine it would be much more, Richardson isn't amazing on defense, better than Shabazz but that's not saying much.
Shabazz was the better scorer, rebounder, and FT shooter.
Plus I see Shabazz as filling a need for Miami, providing more versatility than Richardson in what roles he can fill. And with Shabazz you know the minimum of what you are getting, Richardson's one year might be a fluke.
27 Jul 2016 05:36:36
Shabazz will also be a free agent next year, the heat would rather have the shooting and the pg/ SG over SF/ PF versatility because at PF they have bosh, mcroberts, Haslem, and Derrick Williams and Luke Babit could play there too. Not to mention they don't have a backup point where Richardson fits. Richardson isn't amazing at defense but very solid.
27 Jul 2016 05:52:23
^but Shabazz they would at least be able to match contracts, Richardson they won't be able to when he is a free agent in a couple of years,
And the only quality PF they have there is Bosh (maybe) and possibly McRoberts, Shabazz would be an upgrade over Williams and amd most likely Babbitt
Plus Tyler Johnson can play point, especially with the Heat signing both Waiters and Ellington.
27 Jul 2016 13:55:56
When did Muhammad become a PF? . he's a 2/ 3.
27 Jul 2016 15:08:24
You're the one who said he could potentially play the 4. I would rather have Derrick Williams over him. It's likely Shabazz will ask for money the Heat aren't willing to match. If Johnson is backup point, it's simple, Richardson is now the 2nd string SG. Ellington is the 5th guard. Heck it wouldn't surprise me if Richardson starts over Waiters in some games.
27 Jul 2016 16:15:25
@SimmonsOrBust, Shabazz is strong enough to play some small ball PF if needed, not sure I would ever call him a 2
And he is definitly better than Derrick Williams.
28 Jul 2016 05:40:49
LOL @ Wolvesfan
Miami would never give up a young more talented Wing WITH DEFENSE for an offense ONLY player.
PLUS, Derrick Williams is a PF/ SF. and i smuch better then Shabazz.
24 Jul 2016 07:51:29
Heat trade Dragic
Rockets trade Brewer Dekker and Bev
Rockets sign Norris Cole
Dragic - Cole
Harden - Gordon
Ariza - McDaniels
Anderson - Harrell
Capela - Nene
Bev - Weber
Richardson - Johnson
Brewer - Dekker - Johnson
Winslow - Williams - Babbitt (Bosh)
Whiteside - Stat.
24 Jul 2016 12:08:57
Maybe the Heat should let Dragic run the team for a year, but this is a good trade if they're going into rebuilt mode.
Maybe Houston should also give a pick.
24 Jul 2016 12:32:33
Seeing so many winslow at pf. He can't play that position full time he can play at some point though.
23 Jul 2016 14:28:53
Boston Gets: Jahlil Okafor
*Boston gets their young star and still has a ton of assets
76ers Get: Goran Dragic, RJ Hunter, Boston 2017 1st rd pick, Detroit 2019 second round pick
*Sixers get real guard play (apologies to jared bayless) under control for the next 4 years
Miami: Amir Johnson, Marcus Smart
*Miami gets a closer/ scorer in Marcus Smart, adds some Bosh insurance with Johnson, who is also another one year deal. The type of contract that Riley has been targeting to perhaps make a splash in next years FA class with a core of:
Smart, Johnson, Winslow, Richardson, Whiteside and potentially Chris Bosh.
23 Jul 2016 15:33:33
Joke right? C's give up Smart, Johnson, Hunter and the 17 Nets Pick ( They have just this Pick, because the Celtics Pick goes to BKN) for Okafor? Danny Ainge can't stop to laugh whenhe reads this.
23 Jul 2016 15:38:06
How does Philly get all of that for Okafor, and that's far too much for the C's to give up.
23 Jul 2016 16:22:22
I didn't realize that the pick would be Brooklyn's as well. I will take my ball and go home now.
22 Jul 2016 09:13:04
Heat if the decide to rebuild
I know 3 different trades is hard to do but here are 3 trades to do a complete rebuild
1. Trade Whiteside to Celtics
Get - Brown, Johnson, Zizic, Bkl 17 1st, Lac 2018 1st
2. Trade Dragic to Bev McDaniels and Harrell
3. Trade Bosh and Richardson to Okc for Oladipo Ilyasova Payne and 18 protected 1st
Draft Harry Giles and Dwyane Bacon
Payne - Bev
Oladipo - Johnson - McDaniels
Brown - Bacon
Winslow - Ilyasova - Harrell
Giles - Zizic.
22 Jul 2016 11:34:55
IMO it's to much for Whiteside
Boston would offer Brown and zigic or the 1rnd pick (swap with Brooklyn)
I believe Rily doesn't let Bosh play this season so he must retire. And he can hit the fee agent market.
22 Jul 2016 13:12:11
No one is trading for Bosh right now.
22 Jul 2016 14:26:39
Gasupo. the President of the organization can't decide to not "let bosh play this season so he must retire. "
If bosh has clearence from credible doctors, the heat can't force him to retire. All they can do is bench him. He can sit back and collect his massive pay checks before retiring and losing that money.
21 Jul 2016 16:13:04
SAC: Rudy Gay
2017 2nd Round Pick
MIA: Josh Richardson
2018 1st Round Pick (Top 14 Protected)
21 Jul 2016 17:27:56
I would think with the way the Kings are just trying to get rid of Gay that the Heat wouldn't need to include the first. With that said, the Heat wouldn't be able to take on Gay's contract I don't believe.
21 Jul 2016 17:41:16
Miami says no. Richardson is on super cheap contract and probably has more value than Gay because of his youth.
21 Jul 2016 18:03:23
Maybe something like
Heat get Rudy Gay and Skal Labissiere
Kings get Josh Richardson and Josh McRoberts.
21 Jul 2016 21:47:02
Heat would say no to Richardson for Gay so this is not even close.
24 Jul 2016 04:22:51
Wrong Kings say no
24 Jul 2016 04:22:51
Wrong Kings say no
19 Jul 2016 07:30:39
Heat trades for rebuild
Trade Dragic and McRoberts
Get 2018 1st MCW and Henson
Trade Bosh (only if healthy) and Richardson
Get - Lavine Shabazz Peck and 2017 1st
MCW - Weber
Lavine - Johnson
Shabazz - James Johnson
Winslow - Williams
Whiteside - Henson.
19 Jul 2016 13:25:53
That's what Minnesota needs, an expensive big when they are already overflowing with bigs.
Even if Bosh was healthy, Minnesota passes on this deal.
18 Jul 2016 19:11:19
Should MIA start a mini rebuild with questions about Bosh's health and Wade leaving?
I see them as a fringe playoff team if Bosh can't play.
Here are some options for them to get some players and picks to retool.
MIA: Holiday and '18 1st
MIA: Grant and '18 1st (top 3 protected) (roughly $14M TPE)
MIA: Collison, Koufos, '18 1st (top 3 protected)
18 Jul 2016 19:21:28
#1 is the best trade for Miami meaning it's a bad trade for Pelicans. That pick needs to be protected.
18 Jul 2016 21:07:00
In 2 years I'm assuming the Pelicans can get back to the #8 seed again in the west at least. Especially with the shake-up to OKC. I proposed that trade assuming Holiday still has some health concerns and the pick would be out of the lottery (#15-#20). Holiday's contract is expiring so it gives the Heat some flexibility; if he proves the injuries are behind him, they can resign him. If injuries still plague Holiday, they can let him walk and get his contract off their books next summer.
16 Jul 2016 11:32:13
Sac: B Knight+ Bender+ 1rnd pick Phoenic 17+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018+ 1r pick Charlotte+ Lamb
Phoenix: D Cousins
Charlotte: A Len+ 2rnd pick sac
Sacramento can rebuilt, they will have three first round pics in the next draft, that's going to be deep. And the 2018 Miami pick could be good if Riley failt to sign good free agents. And Knight still is a good young point guard.
16 Jul 2016 11:57:36
Just no. Phoenix are giving up all their assets for cousins and that won't make them a contender so why.
16 Jul 2016 12:42:13
Pf : Chriss
this team could go to the Wesern finals.
16 Jul 2016 13:32:53
No it wouldn't. It's a bunch of youngings and no leadership. What. You think cousins will lead a team to the western finals? He can't lead a team to a 500 record. But now he's a Champion level leader?
16 Jul 2016 13:37:18
Phx is a great young team with a lot of assets. I don't think they are giving up too much in this deal as they are keeping their top assets but still netting a young superstar in Cousins. So long as they put at least a top 5 restriction on their own draft pick I love the deal for Suns. My only concern is Cousins contract is up soon so he could leave as soon as this team starts to mature and the guys they are giving up are all on long-term deals (Len is restricted) and the veteran leadership to keep Cousins in-check. I'd still likely roll the dice on him if I'm Phx since he is most talented center in the league.
If I'm Kings I'm very satisfied with this return for Cousins a player who has been consistently been unhappy, a drain on franchise and if not traded will most certainly not resign. They get a solid young pg locked up next few years in Knight, 3 1sts, Bender who has stretch 4 potential which could help alongside WCS and Lamb who hasn't been able to put it together yet but is still young and has potential and may be able to flourish in a bigger role in a rebuilding Sacramento.
Charlotte are getting a steal through dumping Lamb's contract and picking up a young promising big man in Len who put up some nice numbers in stretches last year but since Kings are loaded at center it makes sense to bring in a 3rd team to offload Len.
14 Jul 2016 13:37:44
MIA get Jerryd Bayless and LAL 1st round pick
PHI get Goran Dragic
I think Dragic fits well with Simmons as he can shoot the ball and could not demand the ball a lot? While MIA get a pick of they decide to rebuild.
14 Jul 2016 13:53:35
Except Dragic does demand the ball, that was the source of the Dragic-Wade tension.
14 Jul 2016 14:55:20
Would rather take my chances with the lakers pick than with dragic as Sixers fan.
14 Jul 2016 19:31:00
I feel like dragic is SO overhyped. He is slightly above average. Legit, can name like 10 pgs i'd prefer over him. 14pts, 5 assist and a a terrible 3 is hardly impressive.
Which of the following would you prefer the 30 year old, declining dragic over? Because you seem to be giving him a lot of value in these trade scenerios.
Rondo, Westbrook, Wall, Paul, Rubio, Lillard, Curry, Lowry, Jackson, Isaiah Thomas, Teague, Walker. hell, i'd prefer Payton, Mudiay, schroder and even Dunn over him.
Thats 15 to 16 pgs i'd put ahead of him. That hardly seems to equate to a solid player in bayless and a likely high lottery pick.
14 Jul 2016 21:29:37
Miami might be willing to part ways with Dragic to free up salary next year to sign a FA. This deal can wait until trade deadline.
14 Jul 2016 11:40:40
P Riley didn't give Wade a big contract.
Could he manage a quick rebuilt?
1)Trade Dragic before the trade deadline.
Miami: 1rnd pick Bucks+ 1rnd pick Charlotte
2)Trade for Butler
Chi: 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Charlotte+ 1rnd pick Bucks
3) Sign Westbrook And B Griffin in free agency
Miami's big five
PF: B Griffin
SG: J Butler
14 Jul 2016 11:55:55
This is ridiculous-
1 Milwaukee are giving up way too much for dragic
2 How can Miami fit Westbrook Butler Whiteside and Griffin under the salary cap? And how will they convince them considering there are no links between Westbrook and Miami and griffin and Miami
3 Let me guess you jumped on the bandwagon when Lebron came and now your stuck hoping another miraculous signing will occur. Stop being a heat fanboy.
14 Jul 2016 12:10:18
You think you get butler for 3 mid to late firsts? And then still have the cap room to max out griffin and Westbrook? No sir. All around.
14 Jul 2016 13:16:50
Bucks don't give up too much to get Dragic, but that deal's the only thing in this post I see as reasonable, though I'm not sure how the Hornets take on that much salary without sending anything out.
14 Jul 2016 14:00:04
They don't let Bosh play this season, so they can release him. so when Dragic is off the books and the cap is going up, they can sign two big free agents. That's the reason they let Wade go.
Next years draft is going to be deep. Miami and charlotte aren't going to make it to the playoffs, so that will be good picks. D Wade-Rondo and Butler isn't going to work, so the Bulls are going to trade him sooner or later. The Bulls would like that offer, if those pick fall in the lotery
Who is going to make a trade offer for Westbrook? the only team that can make an offer and still be a contender is Boston (i really hope they can) . So i think he's gone in free agency. And players love the weather (taxes) in Miami
BTW i'm a Pacers fan.
14 Jul 2016 18:07:27
Lets say Miami releases bosh and trades dragic like stated plus get an expiring contract to make trade happen. Miami would suck next year. So they trade 3 picks, Richardson, and Johnson for Butler would be more reasonable plus clear all cap and have butler, Winslow, Whiteside, they could give Westbrook and Blake 30 each. Plus have 7 to 9 mil left. So if Blake and Westbrook take 28.5 starting off they have 10 to 12 left to sign a quality 6th man.
Coming from a laker fan and I like the cavs too.
14 Jul 2016 19:39:00
Blake 30 million
Westbrook 30 million
Butler 19 million
Whiteside 23 million
That alone is 102 million. Winslows 2.7 million brings them to just under 105 million. That assumes you get rid of dragic for nothing AND somehow make up new rules in which a team can decide to bench a player or have their team doctors fraudulently claim he isn't medically cleared in order to then void a guarenteed contract?
Aint happening. Learn the NBA rules and the legal system.
15 Jul 2016 20:20:23
Bucks get robbed
13 Jul 2016 22:21:21
Miami: Lamb+ S Hawes+ 1rnd pic Milwaukee+1rnd pick Charlotte
SG: J richardson/ Lamb
Bosh sits out the season and get released
Sign: B Griffin and Westbrook
Trade 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Charlotte+1 rnd pick Bucks for J Butler
SG: J Butler
12 Jul 2016 20:22:57
Miami- phoe- sac
Sac: G Dragic
Phoe: R Gay
Miami: T chandler+ return 1rnd pick 2018+ Labissiere.
13 Jul 2016 03:09:10
Can't imagine the Heat of all teams throwing in the towel like this even if Bosh retires. Doesn't make sense from a talent or value perspective for them; if they wanted to actually deal Dragic I think they could get more and would target help for weak backcourt.
Heat already have some good young talent in Winslow and Richardson, I don't seem them moving Dragic unless they are getting another good slightly younger player in return who can grow with them and Whiteside to form next iteration of the Heat and attract a big name next summer.
13 Jul 2016 04:46:45
Big no from Miami.
12 Jul 2016 20:21:01
Bucks: G Dragic
Miami: T chandler+ return of the 2018 and 2021 pick from phoenix.
12 Jul 2016 20:27:34
Why would Miami make this deal, did they not just commit $100M to Whiteside?
Come on man, think before you post.
12 Jul 2016 20:54:29
They're not going to win a title with Dragic.
I think they're not going to make the playoffs
2)Indy (ok i'm an Indy fan)
8) Bulls/ Orlando/ NY/ Charlotte/ Miami
They signed Whiteside, because Riley thought that could bring KD to Miami. Durant didn't came and they lost D Wade. If they played for the eight spot they should have give him 25 mil.
And Bosh 's healt is uncertain.
Miami should trade Whiteside, when he's tradable and start rebuilding.
If you can't make the playoffs, you better really suck and go high in the draft
If they find some good young players in the draft, they can rebuilt and atract some good free agents and aim for another title.
12 Jul 2016 21:08:28
I think they make this deal because they feel a rebuild coming and they could use their own picks back. Chandler would be used as a back-up or just bought out. The main thing they want is their picks back.
13 Jul 2016 02:49:51
Gasupo, Bucks are going to be 1 seed, that's a no brainer
13 Jul 2016 03:21:39
I think Riley believes in himself too much to throw in the towel for that. I can see them electing to do a rebuild but not for that where one of key pieces is their own draft pick 5 years from now; I don't think they'll want to stomach being bad for that long.
Not having that many of their own picks I think is how Heat will justify not completely throwing in the towel. Also, they have some good young pieces already in Winslow and Richardson and if they move Dragic for a slightly younger piece they may be able to attract a decent player in free agency.
Don't think they'll ever be a serious contender before 2021 but its asking a lot to tank up until then.
13 Jul 2016 04:31:59
So, you've tried to stick PHX with Rudy Gay. and with Monroe 2 guys the Suns do not want. just make the deal betwen Miami and SAC. leave the Suns out.
13 Jul 2016 04:48:30
The picks don't help a rebuild though if they're 2018 and 2021, they would have to be 2017 to make sense.
12 Jul 2016 02:02:38
Kings trade - Cousins and Gay
Get - Kngiht Bender McRoberts and Miami 1st
Suns trade - Knight and Bender
Get - Cousins
Heat trade - McRoberts and 1st
Get - Gay
11 Jul 2016 01:14:52
Nets lose out on Crabbe and Tyler Johnson. Also Pf Willie Reed signed with heat. Nets barely have a team. Maybe:
1. Sign Jared Sullinger to be stating Pf next to Lopez. Sullinger can score and rebound at a decent rate.
2. Sign Lance Stephenson as sg. Stephenson may play better coming home to NY.
11 Jul 2016 04:12:52
they just signed vasquez to back up Lin. Rumored that there is mutual interest between Nets and Anthony Bennett. Maybe make a run at Dion Waiters? This team needs everything.
10 Jul 2016 09:00:09
If Miami wants to start fresh and build around Whiteside and Winslow
Trade only happens if Bosh is healthy
Heat trade - Bosh and Richardson
Thunder trade - Oladipo Payne Ilyasova and 2017 1st
Thunder sign Chalmers as backup PG
Heat sign Wayne Selden and Kevin Seraphin
Westbrook - Chalmers
Richardson - Waiters
Roberson - Singler
Bosh - Mitgary
Adams - Kanter
Dragic - Payne - Weber
Oladipo - Selden
Winslow - Green
Williams - Ilyasova - McRoberts
Whiteside - Seraphin.
10 Jul 2016 14:50:20
okc never would do this.
10 Jul 2016 21:49:21
Not a chance.
11 Jul 2016 14:13:01
Bosh is done. He should retire.
09 Jul 2016 11:58:01
Miami Heat / Sacramento Kings
Miami Heat: Ben Mclemore, Rudy Gay, Kosta Koufos, Omri Casspi
Sacramento Kings: Goran Dragic, Josh McRoberts.
09 Jul 2016 23:46:49
Definitely take Caspi out. Counter- Dragic for Gay and McLemore
07 Jul 2016 16:48:18
Rest of Blazers offseason
-Hope Hassan Whiteside spurns the Heat and try to sign him to a 4yr max, if not then sign Festus Ezeli 4yr 66m (last year partially guarenteed)
-Sign Mario Chalmers 2yr 18m
-Re-sign Allen Crabbe 4yr 70m
-Let Mo Harkless walk
-Waive Luis Montero
-Sign Beno Udrih 1yr minimum
-Re-sign Chris Kaman 1yr 3m
Lillard/ Chalmers/ Udrih
McCollum/ Turner/ Connaughton
Aminu/ Crabbe/ Layman
Davis/ Vonleh/ Alexander
Whiteside/ Plumlee/ Kaman.
07 Jul 2016 18:27:12
Whithside won't leave Heat he said it himself.
08 Jul 2016 03:10:18
Whiteside pulling a DeAndre Jordan would be poetic justice for the way Heat treated Wade. I think Portland are a better team than Heat especially when you factor in Bosh still being a major unknown and Whiteside would be the perfect fit.
14 Jul 2016 17:46:46
The only thing that's right about this is the re-signing of Crabbe. None of the rest makes any sense. Especially re-signing Kaman. The Blazers are already log-jammed at the PF/ C positions.
07 Jul 2016 05:13:34
NO. MIA and NO and MIL trade
Pelicans get 2017 1st or 2nd rd pick
Heat get's Evans
Pelicans Greg Monroe
Bucks get Asik and (Heat) 2017 1st or 2nd rd
Then the Pelicans sign Terrence Jones, Robert Sacre and re-sign Frazier
SF Hill Pondexter-Cunningham
07 Jul 2016 16:47:07
So the heat give up a 1st, for an expiring contract of a player that just played 25 games.
THEN, the bucks give up Monroe's likely expiring contract, for a deep bench player that makes 11 mill+ a year for the next FOUR years.
07 Jul 2016 00:09:24
Miami Heat: Jrue Holiday, Tyreke Evans, 1st Round Pick
New Orleans Pelicans: Goran Dragic, Josh McRoberts.
07 Jul 2016 01:01:40
No need for thag 1st rd pick, maybe a 2nd.