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27 Apr 2017 00:35:21
draft day trade
heat : pg13, bledsoe
suns : richardson,ellis, mcroberts(waive), #18 pick
pacers : dragic,bender,chriss, #14 pick

27 Apr 2017 05:39:47
Absolutely awful for everyone except the Heat. Suns are getting it the worst, not sure I'd except that offer for Chriss or Bender individually (maybe for Bledsoe) let alone all 3. Pacers could likely do better than that especially since Bender and Chriss couldn't both work with Turner already in place.

27 Apr 2017 08:46:12
How ridiculous for Suns! They never consider it!

27 Apr 2017 13:01:29
Wait am I reading this wrong. Heat get George and Bledsoe for dragic and a pick?

26 Apr 2017 22:58:27
okc thunder offseason

sign griffin max
roberson 3 year 23 mil
gibson 2 year 14 mil

Okc TRADE abrines sobonis syngler bulls 2nd
okc RECEIVE Jae crowder

Heat Trade whiteside
HEAT receive sobonis abrines syngler bulls 2nd brown/smart and clippers 1st 2019 pick

celtics get whiteside

heat get rebuild with brown abrines and sobonis 3 promising players while geting picks

celtics cet lethal rim proterctor and great center while kepping brooklyn picks and assuming they sign GORDON HAYWARD

OKC get contendor and shooter around russ and blake while getting a deaper bench

Please share what you think.

26 Apr 2017 23:52:05
OkC is over the cap.

27 Apr 2017 00:28:17
no they can go into luxury tax and they will be fine.

27 Apr 2017 02:37:24
rkenne is correct, the Thunder are already over the cap next year, and you have them adding another $40M - $50M worth of salary. There is a cap you know.

26 Apr 2017 03:09:47
Heat get Porzingis Noah Hernangomez Thomas
Knicks get Whiteside McRoberts Ellington

Knicks sign CP3 and Milsap max deal
McGee for MLE

Both teams top 4 seed.

CP3/Monk-7th/Randle
Lee/Hart-44/Bluiett-58
Melo/Kuzminskas/Early
Milsap/O'Quinn/Ingis
Whiteside/McGee/Plumlee

Dragic Noah for Lopez Rondo-release

Lowry/Johnson/Ntilikina-14th
Waiters/Richardson/McCruder
Winslow/Thomas/Babbitt
Porzingis/Johnson/White
Lopez/Hernangomez/Reed

26 Apr 2017 14:24:51
This actually seems like the kind of trade I can see Jackson making. I don't think he's there for the long haul, so he might be willing to sacrifice the Knicks future on a get rich quick scheme.

25 Apr 2017 20:01:20
Lakers Lopez nets late pick

Nets top 3 pick Deng Mozgof

Or

Lakers Whiteside

Heat top 3 Deng Mozgof

Or

Lakers Pg13 extension

Pacers top 3 Randle Deng

25 Apr 2017 18:24:33
Suns get - Winslow and Knicks 1st
Knicks get - Whiteside
Heat get - Suns 1st, Noah, and Hernangomez

Heat trade Dragic for Teletovic and their 1st

Suns draft - Smith
Heat draft - Ball, Giles and Anunoby

Bledsoe
Booker
Winslow
Chriss
Len

FA (Mills or Hill)
Lee
Melo
Zingis
Whiteside

Ball
Waiters
Richardson
Johnson
Hernangomes

25 Apr 2017 18:36:01
Suns NEVER do this!

25 Apr 2017 19:07:44
The only one who says yes is the Knicks.

26 Apr 2017 08:47:42
Garbage trade for Suns!

25 Apr 2017 01:04:35
draft day trade
heat : pg13, bledsoe
suns : teague, mcroberts (waive)
pacers : dragic,knight, richardson, #14 pick

25 Apr 2017 01:44:01
Lakers pg13 extension

Pacers top 3 pick Randle deng.

25 Apr 2017 01:44:08
How? . Teague is a FA.

25 Apr 2017 01:58:39
Not nearly enough for PG.

25 Apr 2017 02:12:23
So effectively the Suns get nothing for Knight and Bledsoe. If they wanted Teague, they would sign him with cap space and deal the other two for other assets.

25 Apr 2017 04:40:47
Is this trade a prank.

26 Apr 2017 08:56:30
The ideas of some people! Dnt smoke bud when dreaming up these dumb trades, please! Smh!

23 Apr 2017 17:17:08
draft day trade
heat : carmelo, bledsoe
knicks, dragic, chandler
suns : d rose, mcroberts (waive), heats #14 pick

23 Apr 2017 18:36:35
Suns don't want Rose.

23 Apr 2017 18:43:36
NO! from Suns. We don`t need Rose, we need young players. For Bledsoe and Chandler we con get a top 7 pick from Knicks or Orlando, not witch Chandler but maybe witch Warren or Bender.

23 Apr 2017 19:23:10
No way Knicks or Magic would do that deal.

23 Apr 2017 19:31:52
Leave D rose out of it (he is a FA and can't be traded on draft day anyway) and I like it more. Heat probably still giving up a little too much tho (I don't think Bledsoe is better than dragic and don't see a big enough market for Melo to justify giving up a lotto pick for him.

24 Apr 2017 13:33:24
Niko, no matter how many variations of this trade you try, it's not working.

23 Apr 2017 04:11:09
Heat get Melo Noah Thomas
Knicks get Bosh McRoberts Ellington 16th

all 3 released/Voided

Heat keep all main rotation players

Dragic/Johnson/N.Cole
Waiters/Richardson/McCruder
Winslow/Thomas/Babbitt
Melo/Johnson/White
Whiteside/Noah/Reed

The trade open up ny cap space to sign the quality of any trio FAs at PG SF PF
1st Tier
Curry/CP3 Durant Griffin 4yr 120mil
2nd Tier
Lowry Hayward Milsap 4yr 100mil
3rd Tier
Mills/Hill/Teague/Holiday Gallo/Porter/Gay Ibaka 4yr 80mil

You can fill any body in those group and NY will be a playoff team with cap space to sign 3 1st Tier Free agents. This should calm down Porzingis and his future with ny if they trade Melo.

Tier/Monk-5/Randle
Lee/Thornwell-16th/Bluiett-58
Tier/Kuzminskas/Early
Tier/O'Quinn/Inglis
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

23 Apr 2017 06:44:28
Melo wouldn't be a bad fit for the Heat but not sure they'd give 16th pick for him straight up let alone take back Noah's contract too. I believe Bosh is eligible for a medical retirement so Heat should be able to get him off their books (don't think this can be done if he is traded no point in putting him in the trade) .

Free agents is a good route to potentially go for Knicks but I don't view any top guys going there. Instead of committing big bucks to tier 3 guys I think they'd be better off drafting Fox or Smith tanking for another year to get another top pick then next season make a run at big names like Westbrook, George and Cousins who will all be FA in 2018.

23 Apr 2017 06:46:35
If Bosh is traded, I'm unsure if his salary can come off of New York's books or cap.

23 Apr 2017 21:49:40
I don't trust smith knee. Because the Knicks failed at tanking also don't know if Fox will be around.

22 Apr 2017 00:04:46
Heat - Knicks

Heat get Carmelo Anthony

Knicks get Justice Winslow and Wayne Ellington.

22 Apr 2017 00:44:25
riley is not trading winslow.

22 Apr 2017 01:26:06
I like fit of Melo with the Heat alongside Dragic and Whiteside especially when their alternative is to go pay Rudy Gay absurd money. Don't think Miami would be willing to or have to give up Winslow to get Anthony tho. The fact that Knicks aren't taking back any big salaries is a significant asset in itself.

22 Apr 2017 06:05:08
What if New York adds a 2nd rd pick to Miami then?

22 Apr 2017 12:57:46
The Heat really don't have a big salary, low production guy, so it's hard for them to salary dump.

Why not Knicks agree to flip firsts, and add one of Kuz or O'Quinn, and the Heat add Tyler Johnson.

22 Apr 2017 13:59:35
knicks aren't adding picks in that trade.

22 Apr 2017 14:34:51
At this point Jackson would probably allow Riley to pick anyone off the Heat roster for Anthony.
Miami, however, is probably one of few the places that Anthony would agree to go to.

23 Apr 2017 03:29:04
Oh really supercollider? Even with reports multiple teams want him. But nooooooo the Knicks go to the heat and say you pick what you want to give. Because that's smart. As usual.

20 Apr 2017 15:35:47
76ers/Heat

Trying to think outside the box here.

Sixers get:Bosh, #14 pick
Heat get: Okafor

Sixers absorb the 25 million per year for the next 2 years. Bosh mentors Saric and give sixers respected all star vet with a ring. Sixers get a mid first this year.

Heat rid themselves of boshs huge contract and get some flexibility with free agents. Okafor is only 21, can back up whiteside.

Thoughts???

20 Apr 2017 15:45:07
Can't the Heat release Bosh after the season?

20 Apr 2017 15:47:03
I can see 76ers doing this. They have a lot of cap space and that contract will be gone when they will need to resign their young stars.

20 Apr 2017 15:49:20
I'm fairly sure since Bosh is out indefinitely with an injury the Heat can get him off the cap with some kind of injury waiver.

20 Apr 2017 17:21:02
Miami has insurance on Bosh and that will pay more than half his salary. They could trade him and be off the hook for the remainder of his salary, but if Philly played him for 25 games in any of the remaining 2 years the Heat could end up with Bosh back on the salary cap.

It's a slippery slope for the Heat, they could lose the draft pick associated with Jvoug1's trade scenario if he were to play.

Bosh wants to play as he has stated, but the guy needs to remember what happened to Reggie Lewis of the Celtics and be smart and just mentor Saric and work as a coach after his contract has expired if that's his desire.

If Philly were smart they'd stay away unless Bosh has a clean bill of health.

20 Apr 2017 17:43:53
Yeah, Miami can career ending injury waive bosh at any time, though if he then plays 10 (I think) games, his salary goes back onto their cap, so there is some risk.

20 Apr 2017 20:16:56
No need for Okafor with Whiteside in Miami, would not work well together on the court.

Miami can take Bosh off the books, but if he did return and play 10 for another team, he goes back on their cap. I do like the idea of dealing him to a team with cap space to ensure it does not come back to bite Miami later if he plays. Why not Stauskus and a 2nd instead.

20 Apr 2017 00:51:16
heat : bledsoe, carmelo
knicks : dragic, heats #14 pick, mcroberts
suns : d rose, hernangomez

20 Apr 2017 05:27:09
A big hell no from the Knicks.

20 Apr 2017 10:26:53
I'm confused about the Knicks
Tey should keep Anthony, Unless they receive a good offer.
And Hernangomeze is an ideal combo with Porzingis.

20 Apr 2017 13:24:13
Also, why would Phoenix want Rose back in a S&T?

19 Apr 2017 16:43:58
heat : bledsoe,chandler
suns : okafor, heat #14 pick
76ers : dragic, mcroberts

19 Apr 2017 19:58:59
How does adding Tyson Chandler make this deal any more attractive to Miami? If anything, it makes it worse.

19 Apr 2017 20:41:58
The heat are getting the best player. Why does Chandler matter?

19 Apr 2017 21:32:38
Are the Heat getting the best player? I'd take dragic over Bledsoe, injuries being a big reason, but dragic is also just really good.

19 Apr 2017 22:47:46
How are the sixers getting dragic for okafor?

20 Apr 2017 15:09:40
I getbthay bledsoe has had some injuries, but besides your personal opinion what else can really be used to say dragic is the better player though statistically?

Both age and contract suggest bledsoe>dragic as well.

I'm not sure it's actually even close value-wise between the two of them.

19 Apr 2017 00:43:07
heat : bledsoe
suns : okafor, heat #14 pick
76ers : dragic, mcroberts

19 Apr 2017 03:54:20
I wouldn't give up Dragic straight up for Bledsoe, much less him and #14 if I'm the Heat.

17 Apr 2017 20:38:52
heat : bledsoe
bucks : dragic, mcroberts (waive)
suns : dellavedova, heats #14 pick, snell.

17 Apr 2017 21:09:21
Dragic was Miami's best player the 2nd half of this season. I don't view Bledsoe as much of an upgrade (if at all especially with his injury history) and certainly not worth their #14 pick in addition to Dragic.

Similarly although Dragic is a very good player and point guard I think Bucks are better suited with guys like Brogdon and Delly at pg who can play 3 and D and play off the ball allowing Giannis to be the monster he is.

If I'm the Suns I'd certainly be trying to shop Bledose in order to get younger and possibly open the door for Ball if they believe he is a better prospect than Jackson.

18 Apr 2017 00:18:22
Agreed jaw457 Dragic is to old for Milwaukee. They currently have Brogdan, Delladedova and Gary Payton ll as PG's. No need for Dragic! And the will not trade Snell, Look for him to get a Big contract! Plus, they don't need McRoberts at all.

18 Apr 2017 00:26:40
Dellavedova for Knight.

18 Apr 2017 01:07:24
Think you're onto something here. maybe not this deal perhaps, but PHX, I believe, will be creative in A) trading Bledsoe. and B) Getting another top draft pick.14 might not be high enough for what the Suns want. hence the creativity. in adding another player. a future pick, etc.

18 Apr 2017 19:02:50
The Darkside, at that price who cares about age for the Bucks. They are winning now and that makes them better without giving up any big pieces. Terrible trade for Miami though. At best Bledsoe is marginally better than Dragic and can never stay healthy.

18 Apr 2017 20:40:54
rkenne_16. Milwaukee is looking to get younger, not older. They already have Terry (39) Teletovic (31) and Hawes (30). While everyone else is 27 and under. Dragic would not fit in with Milwaukee, He needs the ball in his hands to much. Brogdan, Delladedova, and Giannis, A, are doing that now. But, Maybe Delladedova for Knight? Then, what to do with Henson? Other than a left hook shot, No offense, I'd send hin to Phoenix, and bring back Knight. A shooter PG/ SG. With Thon Maker now starting, Monroe coming off the bench, as well as Hawes (Who is a better shooter also than Henson) Hensons PT has gone down quite a bit. Henson was drafted as a PF, Not a Center. The Bucks passed on Zeller to get Henson.

13 Apr 2017 16:42:50
The Heat get Jimmy Butler and Shumpert

The Bucks get Dragic

The Bulls get Mcroberts (waive), Winslow, Maker, Richardson, and a 1st from the Bucks and Heat.

The Cavs get Henson

Miami waives Bosh and goes after Chris Paul.

13 Apr 2017 17:02:14
Not a freaking chance are the bucks trading maker for dragic, let alone their first too. Do your research.

13 Apr 2017 17:49:58
A midlevel first round pick, a player with a ton of potential but isn't any where near making an impact, and a marginal role player seems pretty cheap for a borderline allstar. Dragic could help the Bucks break into the top teams in the East.

14 Apr 2017 02:07:54
Isn't anywhere near making an impact? It's obvious you have not watched a single buck game.

14 Apr 2017 05:20:43
Maker averaged 4.1 points and 1.7 boards in March for a team who was missing their starting PF.

14 Apr 2017 07:41:20
The biggest issue I see with this trade is Bulls giving up Butler for that. The value in that return is distributed among too many players to have a significant impact. If I'm dealing a star I'd prefer to have one clear gem in my return.

Although that price I think is fair for Dragic who has played very well the 2nd half of this year I don't think he is a particularly great fit with the Bucks from an age, role and fit point of view. Although he can play off the ball w/ Giannis, I don't think he is at his best in that role.

14 Apr 2017 12:30:37
Victory goes to rkenne_16.

14 Apr 2017 13:30:37
I agree that the package isn't ideal jaw457, but there seems to be more sellers than buyers right now. The Celtics are dragging their feet, the Lakers are looking at George, the Twolves core is still to young to gamble one of their top players for Butler, and the rest of the league is either rebuilding or doesn't have much of value outside of their core players. I think the Cousins trade was a sign of how few buyers are out there. Unless Boston makes a big offer I don't see a lot great of options for the Bulls.

I also agree that Dragic isn't a great fit, but the Bucks aren't going to have much luck getting free agents. In the current market everyone is over paying and Milwaukee isn't much of a draw. Age is probably the biggest draw back, but Dragic hasn't shown any signs of slowing down, he can play both guard spots, he's a solid shooter which is needed around Giannis, if things don't work out he probably won't lose much value on the open market, the team is already pretty good even with terrible injury luck, and they showed they want a pg last offseason by giving Delly a huge contract.

That was my thinking behind everything.

14 Apr 2017 20:42:28
Bucks have Brogdan, who they drafted as a SG, But has been playing better as a PG. He moved Delladedova to the 2nd string bench. They have also just signed Gary Payton ll as an additional PG. They don't need an aging Dragic! Send Henson (PF) to Phoenix for Knight (PG/ SG) Send Vaughn to the D-League. Maker isn't going anywhere. Milwaukee should consider trading J. Parker. I would try and send him to the L. A. Lakers, for B. Ingram! The Lakers need a "go-to-guy" which Parker is when healthy, Ingram is not going to be that guy. Both have had knee issues, and as of this date, both salaries match. Throw Vaughn or Terry or Teletovic in with the deal? Maker, at C. Giannis A. at PF, Ingram at SF, Move Middleton back to SG, and M Brogdan at PG.

05 Apr 2017 06:22:34
Which Carmelo Anthony trade works best for everyone?

1. Hawks
Melo for Bazemore and a future 1st

2. Pistons
Melo and O'Quinn for T. Harris and Leur

3. Heat
Melo for Winslow and Ellington

4. Lakers
Melo for Deng and Clarkson

I just don't see a Melo trade to Clippers given their cap situation this summer.

05 Apr 2017 09:44:23
Give me #3 and it isn't even close. If Knicks move on for Melo (as they probably should) then they should be focused around adding younger pieces to compliment Porzingis. Winslow is a solid young prospect that gives defensive versatility on the wing. With him and Knicks lotto pick they'd have two young prospects to develop with Porzingis. I think it would be a pretty foolish deal if I'm Miami however.

The Hawks deal probably makes the most sense for both sides in my opinion. Hawks go all-in on front court of Melo, Millsap and Howard while Knicks get a few years younger at sf and get a pick.

05 Apr 2017 12:05:16
Or do y'all have any other realistic trades that makes sense for everyone, including Melo?

05 Apr 2017 14:19:10
A realistic trade for Anthony would be a No. 1 draft pick in the 15 to 25 range. Can't believe Riley would bite on an overpaid, over-32 ball-stopper, especially considering the way the team has played over the last month and a half.

05 Apr 2017 18:42:31
Surprise surprise. Supercollider echos his same baseless statement. Was that based of him making the offense worse? Fool.

05 Apr 2017 19:03:06
Lmao super duper.

05 Apr 2017 19:50:26
Laker get Melo Noah Pistons 1st 58th
Knicks get Deng Harris Jackson Laker 2nd
Detriot get Clarkson Mosgov NY 1st

Jackson
Lee
Deng
Harris
Porzingis.

06 Apr 2017 15:23:36
That 2# one should have happened fourteen years ago :-)

The most likely scenario is that Silver force Cleveland to accept the K Love for Anthony trade. In return Cleveland get two 1# overal draft picks after LBJ retires.
Oh and NY will fall in the top two in this years draft so they can draft Fullz or Ball.

06 Apr 2017 21:24:22
Harris, Jackson and a 1st for Clarkson, Mozgov and a 1st? NO THANKS!!

04 Apr 2017 16:42:00
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts/ get rid of boshs contract
re-sign waiters, reed, ellington, j johnson
draft day trade
suns : dragic, babbitt, heats 1st round pick
heat: bledsoe, chriss
sign rudy gay and briante weber
bledsoe/ t johnson/ weber
waiters/ richardson/ ellington
gay/j johnson/mcgruder
winslow/chriss/white
whiteside/ reed/ haslem.

04 Apr 2017 17:01:16
Don't think Suns would give up Bledsoe and Chriss for that offer. Another first is nice but Dragic doesn't do much for them and that first is borderline lottery (talent drops off sharply around pick 11).

04 Apr 2017 17:15:37
So many of the same Miami Heat moves coming from you. come up with something new.

01 Apr 2017 23:49:37
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts/ get rid of boshs contract
re-sign waiters, reed, ellington, j johnson
draft day trade
nuggets : dragic, babbitt, heats 1st round pick
heat: mudiay, chandler
sign gordon hayward and briante weber
mudiay/ t johnson/ weber
waiters/ richardson/ ellington
hayward/ chandler/ mcgruder
winslow/ j johnson/ white
whiteside/ reed/ haslem.

02 Apr 2017 01:44:23
I don't think it was necessary to post this twice.

01 Apr 2017 19:04:17
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts/get rid of boshs contract
re-sign waiters, reed, ellington, j johnson
draft day trade
magic : dragic,babbitt, heats 1st round pick
heat: mudiay,chandler
sign gordon hayward and briante weber
mudiay/t johnson/weber
waiters/richardson/ellington
hayward/chandler/mcgruder
winslow/j johnson/white
whiteside//reed/haslem

01 Apr 2017 20:22:19
Other than the weather I don't understand why Hayward would sign with the Heat He can get more money and play for a better team if he stays with the Jazz, and if he wants to go to the East (where things are a bit easier) Boston and even Indy (where he is from) present better situations than Miami.

I like the trade for Miami but I wouldn't understand why the Nuggets (not the magic) would do that trade.

01 Apr 2017 20:42:48
Tax free. So the money might not be true. Plus. Leadership in that organization is great.

01 Apr 2017 23:37:41
Pretty sure Mudiay and Chandler are on the Nuggets not the magic.

02 Apr 2017 01:15:01
heat can easily get to the top of the east next season and gordon could defeat lebron.

02 Apr 2017 22:50:30
Not sure if Heat have cap space to resign Josh Johnson (who has played very well lately and will earn himself some money), Waiters AND Hayward. Even if they got Hayward (I think Gay is the realistic option) and with that lineup I don't think they would be top of the east especially with Mudiay as their starting pg. Dragic and his ability to push the ball (under control unlike Mudiay) is the key to Miami's success; if their intentions are to compete right away I think they'd be better off keeping him and not getting Mudiay and Chandler. Not sure what makes you think Gordon "could defeat" Lebron either.

25 Mar 2017 21:16:47
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts/get rid of boshs contract
re-sign waiters, reed, ellington, j johnson
draft day trade
magic : dragic,babbitt, heats 1st round pick
heat: payton, green
sign rudy gay and briante weber
payton/t johnson/weber
waiters/richardson/ellington
Winslow/green/mcgruder
gay/j johnson/white
whiteside//reed/haslem

26 Mar 2017 08:36:08
Green expires this season so you couldn't do it unless you replace him with Biyombo lol.

27 Mar 2017 02:20:53
I'm surprised as a Heat fan that you would be happy with that offseason!

Payton and Green aren't worth Dragic alone, much less adding a pick. And the poor man's Melo, Rudy Gay, coming off an injury no less. I don't see how this makes the Heat better next year, on paper it makes them worse.

27 Mar 2017 21:05:46
who should be the heats main offseason target?

 
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