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18 Apr 2018 17:21:27
Miami: G Hayward

Boston; Adebayo+Waiters+Olynyk

Sf:Tatum/ J Brown
SG: Smart/Waiters

Boston get a defensive centre, they can resign and keep Smart.

Sixth: D Wade/ J Richardson

18 Apr 2018 19:30:32
boston is not trading hayward. that is brad stevens son and he only got to coach him for 3 minutes so far.

18 Apr 2018 19:40:11
That trade is just not even close talent wise. Gordon Hayward is a top 20-25 guy in the league, while the other 3 are rotation players. And you must not have seen a single Celtics game if you think Marcus Smart would start over Jaylen Brown.

18 Apr 2018 20:05:45
Maybe if Ainge started doing hard drugs, but it's hard to see that happening.

17 Apr 2018 01:18:21
So Miami can save money trade whiteside for Deng, Lakers 2020 and cavs pick.

Lakers sign James and George.
Plus have kuzma fry Hart to lead the bench

17 Apr 2018 10:50:53
I like this for Miami, but i can't see Riley trading for picks.

17 Apr 2018 12:19:06
I assume that's tongue in cheek Gasupo.

17 Apr 2018 01:01:50
Mil - Mia - Was

Mil send: Snell, '20 2nd
Receive: Gortat

Save money to resign Bled and Brogdon in '19, also get a serviceable rebounding big.

Mia send: Whiteside
Receive: Oubre, Pick 15, Mahinmi, '20 2nd x2

Save money and get a quality wing and a solid draft pick for a player whose value is plummeting.

Was send: Gortat, Mahinmi, Oubre, Pick 15, '20 2nd
Receive: Whiteside, Snell

Get out of Mahinmi's contract and get a rebounding/shot blocking C to go with their starting 5.

17 Apr 2018 19:49:31
simplify this to a mia-was trade with the same players moving and mia get gortat and the pick is a protected 19 first.

16 Apr 2018 17:23:57
The Heat get Love, Korver, and Powell plus save 8 million dollars

The Cavs get Whiteside, Winslow, Barnes, Mathews and Barea

The Mavs get Thompson, Jr Smith (buyout),
Clarkson, Zizic, T Johnson, the Brooklyn 8th overall, and 2 Heat 2nd round picks

16 Apr 2018 19:13:57
Rkenne all jokes aside you post like 50 trades a day, yet have no clue about the value of a player. You offer up the same Cavs scrubs in every trade, yet have them get the best players in every trade. The nets pick has no where near the value you think it has. Maybe at the beginning of the season, but not now. This draft is top 6 or 7 heavy.

16 Apr 2018 19:39:01
Who isn't getting what they want here?
The Heat don't want Whiteside and his value is plummeting. They get Love, who can be a legitimate 2nd scorer for them and they give off of Tyler Johnsons bad deal, They also clear up their log jam of young mediocre wings. Plus, they're saving money and getting closer to being under the Luxury tax.

The Cavs get their center, 3 wings who can defend, one of which could be a decent second option for the Cavs.

The Mavs trade in annover paid older shooter in Mathews for a younger one in Johnson, get the 8th pick for Barnes for Barnes, and get some small assets for taking on TT.

16 Apr 2018 20:02:43
Agree with Rkenne. A trade is good if all teams get something they want.

The Heat need to move whiteside, so they can develop Adebayo and they get a good player back. Love-Dragic would be good for a few years.

cleveland get contender ready players back

And the Mavs get the draft pick.

16 Apr 2018 20:22:25
Just because the heat don't want Whiteside doesn't me they're going to take Cleveland's garbage. Love has been on the trade block, and nobody would give up anything of value. You call Winslow a mediocre wing, yet act like osman, zizic, and Clarkson are potential all stars in every trade. Just like every trade you post the Cavs get the top players, and give up the least. Dallas could make this trade and leave Cleveland out of it.

16 Apr 2018 21:08:37
I don’t think any trades can be done until Lebron decides where he is going he changes everything.

16 Apr 2018 21:22:13
Jdp, what does Miami have that the Mavs want? They might want Bam, but Miami isn't giving him up. They may have some interest in Winslow or Richardson. They definitely have no interest in Whiteside or Johnson unless something is attached to him. The Cavs give up 2 of the 4 highest value assets in this trade in Love and the Brooklyn pick. They get back two of the 4 highest value assets in Barnes and Whiteside and out of those 4 Whiteside is clearly the least valuable. His play is slipping, he's disgruntled, Miami doesn't want to play him and he's making the most.

17 Apr 2018 14:28:19
Because rkenne_16 like to be famous neither his post is useless or nonsense it's ok to him.

15 Apr 2018 17:53:30
The Pelicans get Mathews, Richardson, and Winslow

The Heat get Barnes, Thompson, Miller, a Heat 2nd and a Cavs 2nd plus save 12 million dollars

The Mavs get Jr smith (buyout), Mirotic, T Johnson, AjincA(expiring), Diallo(expiring ), Jackson, Zizic and the Pelicans 19 1st top 10 protected

The Cavs get Hill and Whiteside

15 Apr 2018 18:04:03
So the cavs give up Thompson, smith, zizic, and a future 2nd round pick for Hassan whiteside and Solomon hill? Sounds pretty lopsided to me.

15 Apr 2018 19:07:17
Who should the Cavs be giving more to?

15 Apr 2018 23:18:39
I think the heat and mavs are underpaid. If the mavs absorb Tyler Johnson's contract and the heat give up whiteside, Richardson, and Winslow then they are both getting the raw side of the deal.

16 Apr 2018 00:53:18
Her3s another daily lopsided Cleveland trade by rkenne.

16 Apr 2018 02:08:36
Rkenne lmao.

14 Apr 2018 13:22:48
kawhi leonard trade offer

suns receives: kawhi leonard, patty mills

spurs receives: Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Tyler Ulis #15 and #17 pick (via miami and via bucks)


timberwolves receives: kawhi leonard, patty mills

spurs receives: tyus jones, justin patton, andrew wiggins and #23 (via thunder)


knicks receive: kawhi leonard

spurs receives: courtney lee, lance thomas, frank ntilikina #9 #37 (from knicks) and knicks 2019 1st rd pk lottery protected

what team leonard landed if not to celtics lakers and 76ers what to knicks, wolves and suns

14 Apr 2018 15:17:28
knicks trade can't happen. if the knicks trade the #9 pick this year, they can't trade their #1 next year, lottery protected or not. can't be without a #1 pick in consecutive years according to the rules.

14 Apr 2018 16:07:15
The 1st one is decent if the Suns want to roll the dice on an expiring Kawhi.

The 2nd isn't enough for the Spurs. I don't see the Spurs valuing Wiggins. Especially, now that he's going to be making north of 25 million. The pick and Jones are decent assets, but not enough to get Kawhi

I don't think the third is enough either. I think they would want more than 2 good assets, a future late pick and some savings.

It's funny that on a Kawhi trade I made yesterday giving up 2 Lottery picks, 3 propsects that are only like half a step down from Ntilikina, more savings for the Spurs plus 2 future 1sts, a high 2nd and 2 potetial pick swaps, you said that wasn't enough for Leonard, but then you offer up these trades. The only trade that you could even argue gives more is the Phoenix trade and that's only if you're really high on Jackson.

14 Apr 2018 16:31:42
The pick belongs to the Bucks because it fell into the protection slot for the Bucks.

14 Apr 2018 16:45:24
PHX doesn't have the Bucks pick. It was protected, and stays with the Bucks this season.

14 Apr 2018 19:38:43
What team does Kawhi want to go to because he is just a rental otherwise can’t see him staying in Phoenix.

14 Apr 2018 20:29:50
Chriss, ulis, Miami first, + either bucks future first, or Miami future first.

12 Apr 2018 23:55:16
The Cavs get Sefolosha, Richardson, Dragic, and Whiteside

The Jazz get James Johnson, Waiters, and the Cavs 2023 1st top 10 protected

The Heat get Alec Burk(exp), Jerebko (exp), Thompson, Clarkson, Zizic, Jr Smith(buyout), Korver (buyout), the Brooklyn 1st, and the Cavs 2021 1st plus they save 11 million this summer and 45 million next summer.

The Cavs get a real center, a 3rd scoring option and 2 good 3 and d wings at the expense of the future and luxury tax

The Jazz can let Favors walk as they get Johnson, who's a much better fit next to Gobert. They add some much needed offense in Waiters. They lose Sefolosha, but they've been fine with out him this season and it seemed like they were ready to let Burks walk any way. They also end up with a 1st.

Miami gets to clear out some wings, clear the books, stay away from luxury tax, cash in on their older players and start moving to a more sustainable direction.

13 Apr 2018 00:31:52
Not going to lie. Stopped reading the second I saw top 10 protected on a pick 5 years away. No one has interest in that.

13 Apr 2018 01:09:23
Burger u miss read it its 2033.

13 Apr 2018 04:21:10
There is no way the heat trade 5 of their best 7 players for expiring contracts and a couple of 1st round picks, one of which is years down the road.

13 Apr 2018 07:32:22
Terrible for the Jazz. Waiters is over-rated. Rubio is better, and so is Mitchell, and Exum. Favors is younger than Johnson. Junk protected 5 year away pick.

13 Apr 2018 18:27:24
This rkenne16 is a joke lol. Cabs have not but the Brooklyn pick which is 8th. Yur not getting Whiteside, and dragic for the 8th pick.

12 Apr 2018 21:17:37
Making Phoenix monster
Trade 1
Phoenix gets Lamb and Walker

The Hornets get Knight, The Miami 18 and 21 1sts, the Bucks 18 1st plus save 5 million

Trade 2
The Spurs get Chandler(exp), Jackson, Williams, Ullis, the Pheonix likely 1st overall and 2 Suns 2nds plus they save 4 million this year

The Suns get Kawhi and Green

Trade 3
George opts in to be traded

The Thunder get Lamb and Warren

Suns get George

Trade 4

The Pistons get Dudley(expiring), Bender, Daniels, Chris, and a 2020 phx 1st

Resign Peyton

Sign Dedmond for half the MLE and the other half on Kyle Anderson

Sign Illyasova, Calderon, Frye, and Deandre Liggins

George/ Anderson/ Liggins
Leonard/ Illyasova

13 Apr 2018 18:31:58
You have the Cavs getting leaned for the 8th pick, yet have Phoenix giving up the 1st overall, plus Jackson and 2 2nds along with ulis. Jackson has more value then anyone on the Cavs besides lebron.

12 Apr 2018 19:45:37
The Cavs gets Whiteside, Richardson, Olynyk, Danny Green, and Dejounte Murray

The Spurs get Dragic, Barnes and Osman

The Heat get Gasol(buyout), Korver(buyout), JrSmith (Buyout), Clarkson, Nance, 18 Brooklyn 1st, and the Spurs 2020
plus 29 in savings this season and almost 60 the season after.

The Mavs get Thompson, Mills, Zizic, the Spurs 18 1st, the Cavs 2021and a 2nd from each team

The Spurs add two borderline allstars, get a legitimate starting pg, and end up with Osman, who can replace Green. They build a team that would be really dangerous, if they can bring back a healthy Kawhi and the only thing of value they give up is 2 late 1sts and Dejounte Murray.

The Cavs add a real center, another big that can shoot, 2 3 and D wings, plus a defensive minded center. The team will be extremely expensive and they give up most of the future, but putting a ton of shooters and a team that should be really good on defense around Lebron should give them a title chance.

The Heat are in a weird spot. The bulk of their team is young except Dragic who is their best player and their 2nd best player is disgruntled and may be replaced by a rookie in a few years, who he's already loosing time to. They have a ton of solid young wings that it will be hard to find time for all of, they're going to be in the luxury next year, they're a mediocre team with out a ton of upside and they're missing 2 of their next 4 1sts. This trade gives them the chance to sell high on Dragic, get rid of Whiteside before he becomes to much of a problem, open up significant cap space next summer, and add young talent/picks. They take a step back next year, but probably 2 steps forward the year after with back to back lottery picks and they ability to open up a max contract.

The Mavs add some young talent and picks for use of their cap space. I don't think Barnes is part of their long term future and his loss will just help them tank a little more next year.

12 Apr 2018 20:23:25
I don't like what the Spurs get in return. Osman doesn't have the visible upside Murray has, and Dragic, and Barnes are arguably just as overpaid as some claim Mills, and Gasol are. 2 1sts, and a 2nd too. It looks like a poor value return.

12 Apr 2018 20:48:25
You make a lot of valid points, but you're overvaluing Barnes. Maybe add a bit more to the Spurs and its a go. Your assessment of the Miami situation is spot-on though.

12 Apr 2018 21:30:46
Maybe take the Spurs 2nd and Zizic away from the Mavs, then give Zizic to the Heat and Nance to the Spurs?

12 Apr 2018 21:55:12
Jorga, I can see where you can argue Murray over Osman, but I see them as similiar caliber prospects and the Spurs actively tried to trade for Cedi over the Summer. I think since they add a starting pg here, lose their 3 and D guy and Anderson hitting free agency this year, Osman might be a more valuable prospect for them. Murray probably wouldn't see a ton of playing time at point over Dragic and Parker with his shooting struggles, I'm not sure how much he can move over to the 2. Osman can play either wing and the 4 in certain lineups. Plus, I think Pop could turn him into one of the better wing defenders in the league and make him a dangerous offensive player. His game and raw skill set just seem tailor made for Pop to mold.

You can argue that Barnes is overpaid, but he's already proven he can be a good 2 way 3rd option on an elite team. Plus, he's still young enough for Pop to coach up. He would be the 2nd option for them on offense right now with Kawhi out.

Dragic isn't overpaid. He's a borderline allstar year in and year out and can do everything you would hope your pg can plus he can play off the ball and he's a decent defender. He's only making 17 million this year. Compare that to the Spurs part time pg, Mills who's making 10 million on a 4 year deal and isn't a starting pg.

Gasol looks completely done and is slated to make 16 million next year. Green can still play, but there have been rumblings he's unhappy with his role and they should try to get something out of him before he walks and as long as you have that team with Leonard, those picks will be in the Late 20s.

13 Apr 2018 04:04:56
10pts, 8rbd, 3ast, 1blk is not bad in 23.5 minutes for Gasol. Would S. A. Rather have a younger guy? Undoubtedly, yes. He may retire in the off season. They are nearing their rebuild, and I would find a deal to add Cedi for his value as a 9-11 man off the bench, young, with future potential, and not trade my 21 year old starting PG in the process. Barnes is not a good start due to his salary, and position, (Gay, Leonard) and the same thing for Dragic, and his age, and salary. S. A. Is going to rebuild eventually, I don't think this deal is good for them. Not my intention to offend, but that appears to have already happened long ago.

10 Apr 2018 22:36:08
Phoenix Suns Offseason:

- 2018 1st (Probably #1 Pick), Josh Jackson and Tyson Chandler (Waive) for Kawhi Leonard

- 2018 1st (Via Bucks), 2018 1st (Via Miami), Chriss, Jared Dudley (Waive) for Kemba Walker and Jeremy Lamb

- Lebron James - 3yrs/100M
- Deandre Jordan - 2yrs/50M

PG - Walker, Payton
SG - Booker, Lamb
SF - Leonard, Warren
PF - Lebron, Williams
C - Jordan, Bender

11 Apr 2018 00:17:20
im spurs fan i like spurs and i like leonard but i leonard demand trade i have nothing to do to stop leonard to leave my fav team and i think but team good for trade suns 2018 1st rd pk (probably #1 pk) and josh jackson, tyson chandler (waive) for kawhi leonard i agree because spurs can draft deandre ayton the david robinson comparison and josh jackson is kawhi leonard comparison when he is notable to draft last year good trade for both team.

11 Apr 2018 17:27:29
Not happening way to much to give up for 1 year of Leonard. Warren and 1 of Miami's picks and the bucks 1st is the max. If Leonard was on a longer deal he'd be worth more, but no one knows when he will be back.

10 Apr 2018 16:33:36
Heat/Timberwolves Trade:

Heat Receive: Andrew Wiggins

Andrew Wiggins will be the main ball handler in Miami and and the Heat will finally get their "star" player. Wiggins will be happier which will likely improve his overall play.

Timberwolves Receive: Josh Richardson, Justice Winslow, James Johnson, future second rounders

The Timberwolves get Josh Richardson who had a really good season last year, Justice Winslow who still has some potential to be a very good defender and James Johnson who's athletic and a good leader+veteran.

10 Apr 2018 16:53:12
No from Miami,

10 Apr 2018 18:46:16
Miami is supposedly interested in Wiggins and that would be a steal for him even with his flaws.

10 Apr 2018 05:23:31
Suns off season

1) 31st pick for Bucks 1st this year and remove the owed pick

2) Trade 16th pick (via Miami) + 17 (bucks) for Hornets 11th and draft Sexton

-Draft Ayton


07 Apr 2018 14:36:23
The Warriors get Winslow and Whiteside

The Heat get Bell, Igoudola, Livingston and 2 Warriors 1sts

06 Apr 2018 23:31:18

MIL gets Jordan
LAC get Whiteside and Wilson
MIA gets Henson and Dellavedova +2nd MIL pick

MIL does the upgrade it needs and still keeps money to resign Parker. If Jordan decides to walk Bucks can offer him a long run in the playoffs

LAC takes a starting center and a young PF from a player that can lose for nothing. Hassan regains his 30+ minutes

MIA unloads a massive contract, gives more time to Bam, gets decend back up center and pg and a pick

Any thoughts?

06 Apr 2018 23:45:32
Miami basically just takes on bad salary here.

07 Apr 2018 00:00:33
Sounds pretty good!,
I would just add J. Parker, and M. Brogdan (Plus a pick? ) to SA Spurs for K. Leonard.

Imagine the starting lineup of,

Jordan, Giannis A, Leonard, Middleton, and Bledsoe!

Any thoughts?

07 Apr 2018 00:03:49
Miami can get more from whiteside.

07 Apr 2018 01:35:00
MIL could add Snell for Miami.

07 Apr 2018 14:32:51
Snell is overpayed to. I'm not sure that helps. They need to add a 1st, Maker or Brogdon for this to make any sense and even then, I think the Clippers would need a 3rd team involved giving up young assets and taking on White side.

06 Apr 2018 21:12:04
Suns offseason moves

•Trade Josh Jackson, Jared Dudley, and #1 pick to San Antonio for Kawhi Leonard

•Trade Tyson Chandler, #16 pick, #59 pick, and a future 2nd to Miami for Hassan

15: Lonnie Walker IV (Miami)
31: Chimezie Metu (USC)

•Re-sign Elfrid Payton 1yr 8m
•Sign Doug McDermott 2yr 15m

Pg. Payton, Ulis, Knight
Sg. Booker, Walker, Daniels
Sf. Leonard, McDermott, Reed
Pf. Warren, Chriss, Metu
C. Whiteside, Bender, Williams.

06 Apr 2018 21:23:24
I clicked unbelievable, only as I don't see the trades happening, but both of them are actually pretty reasonable.

06 Apr 2018 23:42:35
That Suns team would be great.

It's a good return for the Spurs, if they believe Leonard is gonne.
Miami should trade Whitside and give adebayo more playing time, but i'm not sure a draft pick is what Rilay wants.

07 Apr 2018 00:45:28
Trade is fine, Leonard I doubt will want to sign there is the main hiccup.

07 Apr 2018 06:07:28
i think josh jackson jared dudley and suns own 1st rd pk and highly chance of land the number 1 pick for kawhi leonard is a good trade for spurs jackson adding suns pk could draft deandre ayton the next david robinson is good for me and i think josh jackson (waive or buyout)

07 Apr 2018 06:07:55
sorry jared dudley waive or buyout not josh jackson.

07 Apr 2018 15:48:32
Miami isn't gettin'g enough you either add tyler johnson and brandon knight in the trade (tyler has the worst contract both the same lenght) .

06 Apr 2018 13:59:45
Revised Celtics Offseason Moves

Trade Horford and Rozier for Hassan Whiteside who is not happy with Miami.
Sign Amir Johnson to a 2 year contract for like 9 mil annually.
Select Jalen Brunson to replace Rozier
Let go of Smart and Baynes


06 Apr 2018 16:26:32
Horford is a better defender than whiteside, especially on the perimeter. Horford can guard 1-5. Why, or how would whiteside cost horford and Rozier?

06 Apr 2018 18:49:56
switch Morris to power forward and Tatum to small forward.

06 Apr 2018 20:20:14
Don't think the Celtics would do any of these moves. Baynes is better than Johnson, and would be significantly cheaper than the price tag you set. Horford is probably better than Whiteside, so why would they add a very good young talent too?

06 Apr 2018 21:33:25
Agree with jorgawood. Plus, why would they want Amir Johnson back?
At that kind if money? No way. Personally, I don't see Ainge moving Rozier, unless its in a huge deal for Leonard or Davis. Ainge loves Rozier.

07 Apr 2018 00:51:13
Rozier is a bad ass.

04 Apr 2018 12:21:27
I think East are all set now for playoffs..
Raptors, Celtics, Cavaliers, Sixers
Pacers, Wizards, Bucks, and Heat

West lockup teams: Rockets, Warriors and Blazers
Its up to these 7 teams fighting for 5 spots left:
Spurs, Thunder, Wolves, Jazz, Pelicans, Nuggets and Clippers

06 Apr 2018 00:54:19
Thanks, Captain Obvious.

04 Apr 2018 07:39:44
spurs off season if phx got ayton


phx- leonard/ white/ paul

suns can sign t. young to play at powerforward

suns starting 5

t. young

sas-jackson/ warren/ bender/ chriss/ 1st rd pck via mia

sas trade mills and bender fkr gasol
sas trade chriss and mia pck and sas 2nd rd to who ever got mikal bridges

draft: jalen brunson spurs original 1st rd pck

re sign parker/ anderson/ gay/ bertans/ lauvergne
sign bilenille

gasol/ gasol/ lauvergne
aldridge/ gay/ bertans
jackson/ warren/ bilenille
bridges/ anderson/ ginobili
murray/ parker/ brunson.

04 Apr 2018 10:40:42
with keonard booker and ayton on team they can attract some free to sign with the team sign additinal wing like ellington and hezonja

draft: robert williams

chandler/ williams
dudley/ williams
hezonja/ reed
ellington/ daniels
knight/ ullis.

03 Apr 2018 04:04:07
If Lebron leaves and suns try for playoffs

Kevin love to suns for marquese Chriss,pick 15,Alan Williams,Davon reed,2021 Miami 1st

03 Apr 2018 04:50:34
I don't see the Cavs getting that much for Love. I think high end for him would be that return without the future Heat pick.

03 Apr 2018 05:08:41
Love is a 20/ 10 guy locked up for 2 more years. I think you look at what Butler, Griffin and PG fetched recently and I think the Cavs can expect a haul like that.

03 Apr 2018 05:43:33
Maybe, I just feel like his age and physical limitations on defense might keep the Cavs from getting that kind of haul for him. I'm a Cavs fan and if Lebron walked I would be thrilled with that kind of return.

03 Apr 2018 09:27:54
That would be a great return for the Cavs, but i can't see the Suns doing this. they can't beat the Warriors, OKC or Portland with that team, so they should keep developing young players.

03 Apr 2018 13:36:17
Yeah sorry. Love isn’t those players. He’s a second or third fiddle guy. All those guys led their teams to the playoffs. Are younger. And play better all around.

Love has been in Cleveland for 4 years. Last year being his only good year. And even that i believe was at a drop in efficiency.

You aren’t getting a comparable haul to jimmy butler griffin or George. Besides. Without hindsight. This package is better than what the pacers got for George. They just lucked out.

03 Apr 2018 17:28:23
There was some Love to PHX chatter a year or two ago, but, that ship has sailed. Suns do not want 30 year old veterans who have a long injury history and who don't want to be in PHX in the first place.

03 Apr 2018 17:57:20
To play devils advocate: Butler, George, and Griffin are all second fiddles currently. Swap George and Love and both teams are probably pretty similar.

04 Apr 2018 13:42:57
I agree with hamburger, Love is a nice player on a good team, but he is not not close to Gtiffin and George, or maybe even Butler. He 8s not a scorer. He's a shooter and a rebounder.

03 Apr 2018 02:50:04
Bucks receive: Whiteside

Heat receive: Henson, Snell, Wilson, 1st '20, 2nd '19 & '21

03 Apr 2018 14:07:03
Whiteside is good defensively, but, there is a reason he gets pulled. Milwaukee needs a defensive center that can rebound, play defense, and on occasion score. I would rather see Milwaukee send Henson, Parker and Dellavedova plus a 1st. rd pick to the Clippers for D. Jordan. Both Jordan and Whiteside are looking for the 25-27 Mil. range. Jordan is less of a "head case" and more of a team player. Doesn't really complain, and has played with PG E. Bledsoe before.

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