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26 Nov 2015 05:53:03
Nyk gets whiteside
Mia gets melo
Whiteside is going to have to do a sign and trade because knicks wouldn't trade melo for a expiring contract
Melo would wavie his no trade clause to join miami and good friend dwade
Miami would defiantly do it but i think knicks would want some draft picks included.
26 Nov 2015 12:42:46
They have Zinger.
26 Nov 2015 13:32:13
this trade won't work salarys don't match -- and why would Whiteside do this if he waits until the season is over and become a free agent he will get more money.
26 Nov 2015 13:35:20
Porzingus is going to be a pf untill he gains more weight 2-3 yrs
Whiteside and porzingus can play together cause zingus has a outside game and whiteside plays in the paint.
26 Nov 2015 14:51:08
And do what with Robin Lopez?
I really like what I have seen from Whiteside so far, but I don't know that I want to commit moving Melo for a guys who really has only been making an impact in the L for a year. Maybe if Winslow and a first was included, but even then it's not quite enough for Melo.
Zinger and Hassan could play together, but Knicks don't make this deal unless there are more moving pieces (ie. a third team involved, move Lopez, bring in more assets) .
24 Nov 2015 20:13:14
PHI get Ty Lawson, Kenneth Faried and DEN 1st 2016
HOU get Jameer Nelson and Robert Covington
DEN get Nerlens Noel, MIA 1st, OKC 1st and Carl Landry
25 Nov 2015 03:53:11
I don't think this would work for any team.
25 Nov 2015 05:04:54
Philly wouldn't take faried he plays too hard. Philly wants to tank 3 more yrs.
24 Nov 2015 13:59:19
NYK - MIA - BOS
NYK get: Luol Deng (exp), David Lee (exp), Chris Anderson (exp), Avery Bradley, 2016 1st DP BOS (via MIN), and 2016 1st DP BOS (via DAL)
MIA get: Carmelo Anthony and Aaron Afflalo
BOS get: Justice Winslow, Jose Calderon, Taylor Johnson, Robin Lopez and 2016 MIA 1st DP
24 Nov 2015 15:02:04
Honestly I'm guessing your a Knicks fan and I'm suprised at this trade because New York gives up a lot for getting only Bradley as a future piece and 3 first round in this year. I mean I know you get Deng and Lee but like you said they are expiring and so is Anderson so they aren't in the future and you give up Carmelo who could get you two draft picks plus some and Afflalo, Calderon, and Lopez, those three can also get you a pick or two and a quality young piece so overall I see the Knicks getting screwed. They aren't giving up on the season yet and their future is already bright with Poz.
24 Nov 2015 15:31:22
too many moving pieces knick. no need for that.
25 Nov 2015 05:14:36
I want melo far away from porzingus but melo has way more trade value then bradley, deng and 2 1st round picks which only one will be lottery.
David lee sucks and can't run up and down the court anymore
Bradley is underachieving
Deng is an ok player
Not worth melo tho.
22 Nov 2015 05:54:58
Suns trade with Kings (Suns Fan)
Suns get Cousins
Kings get Markieff Morris
Archie Goodwin (who I like)
2016 1st via Cavs
2018 1st via Miami
2021 1st via Miami
Why it makes sense for the Kings? They can play Kieff (who hates the Suns) for the rest of the year, and trade him for another 1st rounder as he starts to get back to form. Once they trade Cousins, Kings return to rebuild mode anyways, so these future picks would work to their advantage. Archie, McLemore, and WCS are all young enough to build around for the next 5 years. It is better than being boderline average but not good for the next 5 years.
Why it makes sense for the Suns? They need an all star talent. They have too many assets and no stars. No one else is going to give up their all star player for these assets. Boogie is good friends with Bledsoe, and Hornacek is an easy guy to get along with. Plus, it would allow Cousins to be on a winning team with this line up. Without this trade Suns are just an average team as well. With this trade they have a chance to compete. Right now they can't sell tickets even for $5 to get fans into the arena. During the Bulls game, there were more Bulls fans then Suns fans at their own stadium. That is just sad. It is bad for fans, bad for the team, and bad for business. This is Suns only chance. They cannot wait to whiff on another free agent acquisition. No all stars are going to sign up for PHX unless they are 32+.
Worst Case Scenario: Cousins does not want to play PF, and you have to trade away Tyson Chandler (which might be a blessing in disguise) . If Cousins still remains unhappy, you can still use him with other assets to trade for a all star player in the future.
22 Nov 2015 09:33:26
If you wanna move Chandler maybe you can ask Dallas for Pachulia/Felton for Chandler/Price. : ) But I would have preferences. :: ) )
22 Nov 2015 21:31:22
I want to get rid of Chandler within the next 18 Months, but as a piece for someone better. I don't mind keeping him if we don't get a star.
20 Nov 2015 15:12:20
Thunder get Luol Deng
Heat get Cameron Payne and Steve Novak.
20 Nov 2015 16:58:08
C'mon, Deng ain't that bad.
He even plays more minutes per game, than Novak and Payne have played altogether so far this season (25).
19 Nov 2015 02:56:04
Heat get Carmelo Anthony and Robin Lopez
Knicks get Hassan Whiteside, Justice Winslow, Brandon Jennings, Chris Anderson, and Josh McRoberts
Pistons get Luol Deng
Pf. C. Bosh/ U. Haslem
Sf. C. Anthony/ Josh Richardson
C. R. Lopez/ A. Stoudemire
Sg. D. Wade/ G. Green
Pg. G. Dragic/ B. Udrih
Pf. K. Porpinguz/ D. Williams
Sf. J. Winslow/ L. Thomas
C. H. Whiteside/ K. O'Quinn
Sg. A. Afflalo/ L. Galloway
Pg. B. Jennings/ J. Calderon
Pf. M. Morris/ E. Ilyasova
Sf. L. Deng/ S. Johnson
C. A. Drummond/ A. Baynes
Sg. KCP/ J. Meeks
Pg. R. Jackson/ S. Blake.
19 Nov 2015 09:17:10
I like for the Knicks.
19 Nov 2015 12:14:06
I hate it for the Knicks. White side is an expiring. Jennings was decent but not great before the injury. Also, an expiring. The rest is filers and justise Winslow. Ultimately this trade is the Knicks giving away Lopez and Melo for Winslow? How in the world is that a good Knicks trade? The Knicks would be best to see how the current team evolves.
19 Nov 2015 13:08:08
JB, U been doing long time to know salary don't match. 35 out, 27mil in try it on realgm.
Switch lopez for D. Will Seraphin and send Andersen detriot get back Sova.
19 Nov 2015 14:45:33
Pizza. why do u assume that Whiteside would leave the place that can pay him the most and give him a starting spot in a huge market.
19 Nov 2015 14:59:57
NOt a big fan of it form a Pistons stand point although it does stregthen the bench. Detroit is winning even with a weak bench. The return in December of Jennings should take care of that.
19 Nov 2015 15:16:13
^maybe a Whiteside extension would make this trade better.
19 Nov 2015 17:04:42
I don't assume that whiteside will leave. I assume that Porzingas is the Center of the future for the Knicks and whiteside will ultimately be a big contract for a not so necessary position. I would far prefer spending big money on a guard for the Knicks. Whiteside will be a max contract most likely, so what's the point of having the 3/4/5 all locked up when you still have an inferior guard tandem?
It just doesn't make sense.
20 Nov 2015 02:14:21
Porzingus is a PF.
20 Nov 2015 12:49:06
Oh really jbaby? 7'3. Still growing. Intentions of packing on 15-30 lbs. and among the best rim protectors already. He's a pf because he's so thin. The intentions are to get him to center. This is obvious.
Besides. Whiteside is overrated. He's not good at team defense. His team last year and this is better at defense when he is off the court because all he worries about are blocks
Good leaving the team develop as is.
19 Nov 2015 01:06:56
76ers / Twolves / Lakers
76ers get: Russell
Lakers get: Dieng, own #1 back
Twolves get: Miami #1 2016, Richaun Holmes.
19 Nov 2015 02:17:45
Lakers would rather keep Russell and take the chances of getting the pick rather than trading him.
19 Nov 2015 16:13:44
King's right. I know its early and there are a lot of games to play still, but LAL have 4th worst record currently and look horrible. PHI, NOP, BKN have worst records. NOP will not end up with a worse record than any of these 3 teams. They have better odds of getting a top 3 pick this year than not, so why give up Russell to guarantee that pick?
19 Nov 2015 17:14:48
It's not just to " guarantee this year's pick", but to also get there pick back next year if it doesn't convey this year. That's a big part to just dismiss.
19 Nov 2015 20:24:58
Still not worth it in my opinion Jvoug
We can't give up on Russell. He's only 19, and is undeniably talented and has very good vision for a 19 yr old. He needs time to learn and develop. The Lakers don't build the same way as the 76ers. I don't see them chasing more draft picks at the expense of young talented assets.
17 Nov 2015 10:39:28
Three way trade IND/CHI/PHX
Ind trades away: Paul George, Ian Mahinmi
Ind receives: Joakim Noah, Markieff Morris, Cle 2016 1st rd (top 10 prot), Miami 1st rd 2017 or 2018 or 2019 (top 7 prot 17/18, unprotected 2019), Miami 1st rd 2021 (unprotected)
Chi trades away: Joakim Noah, Bobby Portis, E'Twaun Moore
Chi receives: Ian Mahinmi, PJ Tucker, Archie Goodwin, Detroit 2nd rd 2020
Phx trades away: Markieff Morris, PJ Tucker, Archie Goodwin, 3-1st rd picks, 1-2nd rd pick
Phx receives: Paul George, Bobby Portis, E'Twaun Moore
George Hill/Joe Young
Monta Ellis/Rodney Stuckey
CJ Miles/Chase Budinger
Markieff Morris/Jordan Hill
Joakim Noah/Myles Turner
Indiana gets the 3 1st rounders from Phoenix, Markieff Morris a true stretch PF on one of the best contracts in the sport, and Joakim Noah's 13.4mil expiring contract. All while maintaining a playoff caliber roster in the East.
Derrick Rose/Aaron Brooks/Archie Goodwin
Jimmy Butler/Kirk Hinrich/Archie Goodwin
Doug McDermott/PJ Tucker/Tony Snell
Nikola Mirotic/Taj Gibson
Pau Gasol/Ian Mahinmi
Chicago gets combo guard Archie Goodwin who is insurance for Rose, a 3/D wing in PJ Tucker, a replacement back up center, a second round pick, and no longer pays the luxury tax. And since PJ Tucker's contract isn't garunteed next year they can still get 9.5 of Noah's 13.4 off the books if the choose.
Brandon Knight/Ronnie Price
Eric Bledsoe/Devin Booker/E'Twaun Moore
Paul George/TJ Warren
Jon Leuer/Bobby Portis
Tyson Chandler/Alex Len
Phoenix gets the All Star they need in Paul George playing at his preferred SF position. Bobby Portis gives them a player 23 or younger with upside at every position. This allows them to afford the loss of all the draft picks without mortgaging their future.
Who says no to this deal? Indiana obviously loses the best player but if they want to truly contend it could set them up for the next decade without having to tank ala the Celtics with the Nets picks. They would also have enough room to sign two max contracts next offseason. Chicago gets better roster balance, doesn't pay the tax, maintains flexibility for free agency and gets a pick too. Phoenix locks themselves into the playoffs and sets themselves up to stay there while still controlling all of their future picks. Seems like a win/win/win.
17 Nov 2015 20:57:35
Seems that this isn't a popular trade idea. I'm still curious who says no to the deal. Is it one team? 2? Or do all 3 feel it is bad for them?
17 Nov 2015 23:02:01
To start, it's a terrible trade for the Pacers. They get rid of their franchise player, and in return they get an expiring contract, a decent sf/pf, and while they do get 3 firsts, they aren't attractive. Cleveland's 1st is going to be 28-30. Then you have a miami giving 2 1sts. Seeing as they owe the sixers the 16 1st, the soonest it will be is 2018. So now they are 3 years out from seeing that one. Then you give the 2021 first. they aren't trading their franchise player for a pick 6 years from now. This is an awful return for the pacers.
Chicago, they make out fine.
Phoneix. they get rid of 3 players (fyi, its marcus, not markieff. Markieff is on the pistons) Tucker and Goodwin are part of their future plans. Then they get rid of 3 1sts, and a 2nd. So they gut their team to get George, who may just leave them when his contract is up.
So 2 teams. 2 teams have zero interest in this 3 team trade. Make sense?
18 Nov 2015 04:14:44
Markieff Morris is on the Suns! Marcus was traded to Detroit.
18 Nov 2015 06:33:57
I see your points. I know PG is the big fish in the deal and figured they would be the team most reluctant. My thought was that Cleveland is going to own the East for the next few years and so why waste PGs prime when those assets could be coming at a perfect time after. Phoenix has been desperate to find a star and make the playoffs. I think they would absolutely overpay to get there. Thanks for the response.
16 Nov 2015 22:49:24
From a neutral standpoint, here are some big deals that I think makes sense before the deadline for a couple of teams:
IND: winslow, whiteside, deng, future 1st
MEM: hood, lyles, 2017 GS first
SAC: lee, sullinger, rozier, 2016 BKN first, 2018 MEM first
CHI: melo, galloway
NYK: noah, brooks, McDermott, portis, 2016 and 18 Chicago firsts, 2017 Sacramento first.
17 Nov 2015 17:01:20
That phoenix Detroit one and the melo one looks decent but the others i don't see happening.
16 Nov 2015 02:22:21
Kings trade Ben mclemore
Sixers trade heat first and Sampson
For some reason George Karl refuses to play mclemore a lot. He's only averaging less than 18 minutes per game. He gets a chance to start and show how much potential he has on the sixers.
16 Nov 2015 08:44:40
Similar too the shabazz situation and offer I proposed in Minnesota. I'll take either one in Philly.
16 Nov 2015 13:31:07
King, I think I might have suggested this trade (excluding Sampson) a long time ago. However, believe it or not, he actually was moved into the starting line up last night. He got off 6 shots for 8 points.
15 Nov 2015 16:58:16
Sixers get Cameron Payne and Dion Waiters
Okc gets 2016 Heat 1st round pick and Hollis Thompson.
15 Nov 2015 17:46:10
Ehhh Sixers say why not. I'm not a waiters fan but he might get an opportunity here that he doesn't have elsewhere.
15 Nov 2015 19:29:52
OKC could want more.
15 Nov 2015 19:35:01
Waiters reportedly wants to play for his hometown Sixers. Could be what he needs. Payne doesn't do it for me, but he's got to be better then what we got. Sixers say yes.
15 Nov 2015 15:20:51
Sixers offseason plans!
Sixers get Eric Bledsoe
Suns get Nerlens Noel, Carl Landry, and 2016 Heat 1st
Sixers get Avery Bradley
Celtics get Joel Embiid, Tony Wroten, and 2016 Thunder pick
#1. Ben Simmons- Sf
#5. Ivan Rabb- PF
#40. AJ Hammons- C
Sign Bismack Biyambo 4 years $16 million
Pf. I. Rabb/ D. Saric/ J. Grant
Sf. B. Simmons/ R. Covington/ H. Thompson
C. J. Okafor/ B. Biyambo/ A. Hammons
Sg. A. Bradley/ N. Stauskas/ J. Sampson
Pg. E. Bledsoe/ I. Canaan/ T. McDonnel
And this is what a #7 seed in the East looks like.
15 Nov 2015 15:35:40
Love the Celtics trade.
15 Nov 2015 17:48:01
Not a big fan of any of those trade. Overrated guys. And I don't want to lose Noel or Embiid for nothing but overrated guys. They probably just draft and see how they look.
15 Nov 2015 19:46:57
Don't think Philly does any of these trades.
14 Nov 2015 18:48:25
Heat : Tucker, Morris
Suns : Mcroberts, Udrih, Stokes.
14 Nov 2015 06:02:03
DET get Markieff Morris
MIA get PJ Tucker and Jodie Meeks
PHX get Luol Deng, Ersan Ilyasova and 2nd from Heat.
11 Nov 2015 20:50:16
Heat saving more money
Heat gets L. Montero
Trail Blazers get C. Andersen (waived) and two 2nd round picks
Dragic - Johnson - Udrih
Wade - Green - Richardson
Deng - Winslow - Montero
Bosh - McRoberts - Haslem
Whiteside - Stoudemire - Stokes.
11 Nov 2015 02:15:47
Sixers get winslow,
andersen, udrih, stoke (salary dump)
Miami gets canaan, own 2016 miami's pick, 2 2nd round pick.
Sixers get new sf with upside.
Miami lower luxery tax, bring back their own pick and a new 2nd round pick for future purposes.
11 Nov 2015 05:32:26
While MIA has been very public about wanting to save money, I can't see them giving up Winslow to do it.
11 Nov 2015 17:04:20
Miami is not trading Winslow unless they get a lot more in return.
11 Nov 2015 01:55:55
Deal that happened today
Heat trade charmers ennis
Grizzlies trade udrih stokes 2nd rounder
Heat were looking for a third team to take on stokes and udrih but were unsuccessful.
10 Nov 2015 05:01:01
76ers / Pacers
Sixers get: Paul George
Pacers get: Nerlens Noel, Dario Saric, Sixers #1 this year (unprotected), Heat #1 this year.
10 Nov 2015 15:54:12
Absolutely not. The sixers are short on talented bodies. They're giving up 3 for 1 in this trade. Also, there is no way the Sixers give up their unprotected pick.
I know, George is a really good player. But that's too much. The unprotected 1st rounder could bring the Sixers a George-like player. Throwing Noel and Saric in as kickers is too much.
10 Nov 2015 17:24:25
Sixers would do it but only if Embiid is 100 percent healthy. And that's probably not going to happen. More likely the deal would be Noel and the lakers and Sixers pick. That's max value for goerge and probably will take every bit of that to get him.
If I was the Sixers I would consider it. To build with two superstars in goerge and okafor you can fill a roster around that with all the cap space left over.
11 Nov 2015 09:20:46
Yeah, i'd still hold off on declaring Oke a superstar. he's played what, 7 games, and has yet to win 1. His offensive game is pretty much what people expected. Polished. However, his on/off stats are showing he is making his team far far worse. I would guess he is among the 5 worst in the entire league as far as on court team efficiency versus off court.
11 Nov 2015 13:17:57
Pizza, it's very difficult to use those on-off stats for a team that's gotten smoked almost every game and has about 6 nba players. Sometimes he's on the court with 4 d-leaguers. Plus you have a sample size of 7 games. Each of those games has had wild swings in scoring as the bench has been put into the game.
The kids a hard worker and trying to improve his weaknesses. He'll be a consistent 20/8 guy and is pretty much that right now. His matchup on the court with Noel has been pretty solid. When they get broken up the game gets ugly.
11 Nov 2015 15:24:20
Philly, I think he is a very good prospect. I just think its absolutely ridiculous to classify him as a superstar like Paul George. Tre said it's easier to get people to sign with two superstars, paul george and okafor.
for the exact same reasons as you stated. its been 7 games on a garbage team. I would hold off on labeling Okafor a superstar or in Paul Georges league. THAT was all I was saying. I think stats in general aren't indicitive of play.
10 Nov 2015 01:56:37
Heat, Bulls, Wiz
Heat get Derrick Rose, Kelly Oubre
Bulls get Loul Deng, Martell Webster, Mario Chalmers
Wizards get Chris Anderson
Heat make a splash, Bulls reunite with Deng and get a replacement PG that fits their system, and Wizards pick up more cap room for the summer of KD. Thoughts?
10 Nov 2015 05:17:12
What a joke. Wizards trade Kelly obure for basically a salary dump center in Anderson? Wiz say hell no.
10 Nov 2015 22:45:13
Wiz and bulls would never do that
09 Nov 2015 20:17:50
Chalmers to Grizzlies
Beno Udrih to Heat.
10 Nov 2015 19:42:48
It just happened.