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23 Oct 2017 01:30:51
Cavs get Gordon ariza
Rockets get shumpert smith Osman Brooklyn 1st Miami 2nd
Sign Ellis Perkins
Thomas rose Calderon
Wade Gordon Ellis
James ariza korver
Crowder green zizic
Love Thompson Perkins
23 Oct 2017 03:00:47
That's terrible for the Cavs.
23 Oct 2017 03:21:48
rockets are trying to win a championship this year, so they aren't going to take the weak end of a player swap to get picks.
17 Oct 2017 15:48:18
Bulls-Heat
Bulls: Justice Winslow and 2nd round pick
Heat: Jerian Grant and Bobby Portis.
17 Oct 2017 18:03:00
The Heat need a four and Portis could be a good fit in that team, but no way they trade Winslow for him.
17 Oct 2017 23:07:12
We know what Portis is, but we're waiting to see if Winslow can become a star. Miami says no for now.
19 Oct 2017 07:22:24
i Like it, but i would give a top 10 prot pick for winslow, he might never be a good off player but if he does the the road, atleast heat got a pick out of it, if he doesn't then bulls only got someone good at D. while heat still get a pick.
16 Oct 2017 08:58:17
Miami: A Horford+ 1rnd pick clippers and Vancouver
Boston: H Whiteside
I really like Horford and he's a great player for Boston, but they need a defensive center. And they can't take another big contract unless they trade Horford, who's 31 years old, so they should trade him before he becomes a bad contract. They should try to get Gobert first, but Whiteside is a good second if that fails.
The Heat do this, because Dragic and Horford would be a good combo next year that will make the playoffs and they receive two draft picks, so they can develop some young talents and hit the free agent market in 2020
This Boston team could challenge Cleveland and Golden State
Boston:
C: Whiteside/ Ojeleye
PF: Morris/ Yabusele
SF: Hayward/ Tatum
SG: Smart/ Brown
PG: Irving/ Rozier
16 Oct 2017 12:39:42
Vancouver? Memphis moving home?
Don't hate the deal, Boston could use a more traditional Center while Miami is weak at the four. I think the C's will leave it alone for now though.
16 Oct 2017 13:35:38
damn i'm living in the 90's again :-)
16 Oct 2017 13:47:27
The Celtics would have two all nba players, a defensive center, that's a borderline all star. Two young talents on the bench, that could make the difference, when the stars are resting. And smart is playing for a bigg contract.
And they keep the Lakers pick, so they could draft an extra asset next year. (The Memphis pick is top 7 protected and the Clippers pick is lottery protected, so it's not a big lose) .
Horford is important, but they lost J Crowder and A Bradley.
The Celtics would have no proplem scoring. Irving and Hayward can both score and pass the ball, so horford's passing skills and 3-point shot would be less important (And Cleveland couldn't beat GS with Love, so Horford would propaply fail too against GS's system. )
You can't win a chamionship withoud defense.
Whiteside is a great rimprotector, so i believe he's the missing link for Boston.
16 Oct 2017 15:01:51
Gasupo, I'm not sure how you can put the finals loss on Love. He played reasonably well. The Cavs were just out manned. Guarding Curry and Durant, while not being able to come off Thompson is almost impossible even with great perimeter defenders. The Cavs had mediocre perimeter defenders at best. Not to mention that the Warriors defense is really good and they had the personnel to hold the Cavs shooters in check some what.
16 Oct 2017 15:50:14
I don't blame K Love for the loss, but he couldn't make the difference.
K Love or Horford can't hurt Golden state, because D Green will get his rebounds and he will get his passes to Curry, durant And Thompson. Every rebound Whiteside gets is a rebound Green can't pass to KD, Curry or Thompson.
16 Oct 2017 15:58:01
Hayward can guard Thompson
Irving can guard Curry
And Smart can guard Durant
Whiteside can guard D Green
Smart can't shoot, so KD, curry, Thompson can also guard Irving, Morris and Hayward.
They have an equal starting five on defence and offence
J Brown could guard Iguodala, so Boston would have a chance if Tatum and J Brown both develop offensive skills.
16 Oct 2017 16:18:16
Irving can't guard Curry, Durant probably has 9 inches on Smart, and Whiteside would struggle guarding Green on the perimeter and guarding Green would keep him away from the basket most of the time which is where he's most effective.
16 Oct 2017 16:20:54
Also, look at Love's rebounding in the finals. He and Lebron probably had 2/ 3s of the Cavs rebounds.
16 Oct 2017 17:21:36
id be happy with this return as miami. i think whiteside has pretty much hit his ceiling so miami should take this offer while his value is high. its hard to tell what miami’s franchise goals are rn, but the two picks are quite useful and horford is a great addition skills and leadership-wise. and i agree with op, a defensive big is boston’s biggest hole, and whiteside is a great B-option if gobert is out of reach.
20 Oct 2017 13:56:28
I understand Whiteside has a solid skill set that the Celtics are lacking, but he's a horrible fit for them on the offensive side. The way Stevens runs his system is with ball movement and spacing. Whiteside is the absolute antithesis of this philosophy. He has no range at all, and is a bigger ball stopper than any of the ball hogs in the league.
10 Oct 2017 00:06:34
Phoenix: Porzingis+ R Jackson
NY: Bender+ 1rnd pick Phoe+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Detroit+ 1rnd pick Phoe 2020
Detroit: Bledsoe
or
Phoe: Porzingis+ Monroe
NY: Bender+ 1rnd pick Phoe, mia, detroit+ 1rnd pick Phoe 2020
Bucks: Bledsoe
Phoenix:
C: Porzingis
PF: Chriss
SF: J Jackson
SG: Booker
PG: Knight/ Ulis
10 Oct 2017 10:16:08
operation: get porzingis to phoenix. the knicks would really be betting on their f. o. to draft well. and holy hell, bucks are getting bledsoe for a steal in the second trade (unless u meant the det pick to be from mil), either way, still worth bleds.
10 Oct 2017 12:38:02
Yeah, even if that Detroit pick is suppose to be a Bucks pick, that seems pretty light for Bledsoe.
I don't think the Knicks should move KP, but it's not a terrible offer.
11 Oct 2017 10:20:34
No way, porzingis has potential, but he's not worth this for phoenix. I'd give Bledsoe, bender, and miami 1st, but that's it. The guy averaged 18 and 7, but didn't improve much from his rookie year. This draft is so deep that you can potentially get a player of his talent through mid first round. So to give up a top 3 most likely, along with mid first, and bender and another first plus bledsoe forget it.
11 Oct 2017 23:17:38
comme on Porzingis is a star and he will shine this year.
That phoenix team would be unbeatable in a few years.
12 Oct 2017 02:12:35
Gasupo I'll take Bagley or one of the top 5 players any day over porzingas if it involves giving up all that.
05 Oct 2017 19:02:22
Bucks: Dragic+ Whiteside
Suns: J Parker+ Monroe
Miami: Dellavedova+ T Chandler+ Millsap+Bender+1rnd pick Milwaukee+ return 2018 Miami pick
05 Oct 2017 21:24:23
I think miami is getting screwed in this deal.
05 Oct 2017 23:50:34
Miami is overpaying, but they're playing for a first or second round exit and they can't tank unless they get their pick back.
And i still believe (hope) Bender can become the new Dirk nowitzki.
This Miami team wil get a top three pick so they can draft Porter or Donkic next year. And they can give the young players playing time.
06 Oct 2017 11:27:03
dont really think this trade is that good for anyone involved. possibly miami, bender could end up being the best player in this deal. and i think we are giving up on jabari too soon.
06 Oct 2017 13:44:06
Donadamsky, the Bucks get two borderline all stars for a late first, an injured Parker, Delly who is a 2nd string pg, and Monroe who won't be resigned. Honesty they should be giving up more in that trade, but if they could pull it off they would probably be in the ECFs.
02 Oct 2017 17:25:53
Miami: LMA
Spurs: Farried
Denver: Olynyk+Ellington 1rnd pick Spurs 2018+ 1rnd pick Miami 2020(top7 protected)
Miami:
C Whiteside/ J Johnson
PF: LMA/ Adebayo
SF: winslow/ T Johnson
SG:Waiters/richardson
PG: Dragic/Drew
02 Oct 2017 20:08:07
bad for spurs,
02 Oct 2017 22:49:01
why?
They get a younger player on a better contract.
03 Oct 2017 02:04:27
Yes Gasupo they get the younger player but the talent level is too far for them to accept such offer.
03 Oct 2017 03:39:00
A younger considerably worse player*
Yeah, that's TERRIBLE for SA. Aldridge is still a borderline all star. Faried is a nice role player. And SA gives up a first? Insane.
03 Oct 2017 09:56:11
And they also get extra capspace.
03 Oct 2017 17:14:54
Not enough to bring them under the cap though Gasupo.
Personally I like Faried, but a first should be going to San Antonio in this deal, not out.
02 Oct 2017 12:20:02
Miami-Milwaukee
Miami receive Henson, Parker, Vaughn, 1st rd pick
Milwaukee receive Whiteside, T.Johnson
02 Oct 2017 14:38:04
I think both teams say no, but i would do this for both teams.
Miami is playing for maybe a second round playoffs exit, so they should rebuilt. Parker would be a good piece if they also find a destination for Dragic.
The Bucks shouln't hurry and a healty Parker has still a lot of potential. But whiteside is a underrated centre in my opinion.
03 Oct 2017 17:19:05
I don't think Whiteside is underrated, I think he's appreciated for what he is.
Isn't every team in the East likely playing for a second round exit? Should 13 teams rebuild then? Until Oarker proves he can stay healthy, teams will make lowball offers for him, and the Bucks will refuse them.
29 Sep 2017 22:29:57
Cavs - Magic
Cavs gets:
Biyombo
2020 1st Thunder (via Magic) (Top 20 protected)
Magic gets:
Shumpert
Frye
2020 2nd Miami (via Cavs)
Cavs get a defensive center to their bench unit. Biyombo is needed to protect the paint when Thomas and Rose let their man go by them on drives. Cavs have to many players on their roster and either need to cut one, or make a 2 for 1 deal.
Magic move a big contract to save money long term and to get a chance on free agents next summer. Frye is expiring and Shumpert have a player option for next year so the can possibly save 34 million in this deal.
Cavs 2017/18
Thomas/Rose/Calderon
Wade/Smith/Osman
James/Korver/Jefferson
Love/Crowder/Green
Thompson/Biyombo/Zizic
29 Sep 2017 23:33:27
Pretty solid for both teams. I like it. It helps the Cavs now and in case of a rebuild and gives Orlando the capspace they need.
30 Sep 2017 00:39:16
Don't mind it for either team.
30 Sep 2017 13:53:48
This is fairly even I quite like this Biyombo is a good rim protector so they can load up on shooters in smaller line ups and adding a future first is another asset the Cavs can use maybe flip that pick and the Nets pick for a young star later on.
Shumpert and Frye could give them the cap flexibility to let Weltman improve Hennigans mess sooner rather then later and could be used at the trade deadline too and they still get 2nd rounder to help with their build.
Overall it does help both teams with the positions their already in.
24 Sep 2017 21:35:29
Knicks - Wolves
Knicks gets:
Aldrich
Bjelica
2018 1st Thunder (via Wolves)
2019 2nd Miami (via Wolves)
Wolves gets:
Lee
O'Quinn
Minnesota gets rid of Aldrich contract and receives some veterans to strengthen their bench.
Knicks take on bad players but receives 2 picks for it. The Thunder pick should be in the 26-30 range and therefore they get a future 2nd as well.
24 Sep 2017 23:06:56
I think twolves say yes. Great trade for them. Add shooting and interior toughness. Not sure if ny goes for it though.
25 Sep 2017 20:14:57
Magnus your the realistic trade god.
26 Sep 2017 04:14:38
Knicks could always use more centers. should consider the deal to play keep away or monkey in middle with 7 centers.
24 Sep 2017 20:17:25
Cleveland: M Gasol+ 2rnd pick Minny+ 2rnd pick Miami
Portland: K Love
Memphis: Turner+Z Collins+ 1rnd pick Portland
25 Sep 2017 06:54:06
I like it. It all hinges on Memphis deciding to blow it up, but if they do, Memphis gets nice rebuilding pieces, Portland gets a great compliment to Nurkic and a 4th end end player, and Cleveland gets one of the best defenders in the NBA. Win, win, win.
24 Sep 2017 01:35:20
Cavs Spurs Phoenix
Cavs receive
Bledsoe
Aldridge
Spurs receive
Thompson
Osman
Frye
Jefferson
2019 from Cavs (Minnesota)
2020 second round pick Cavs (Miami)
Phoenix receives
Shumpert
Felder
Forbes
2018 first from Cavs
24 Sep 2017 03:01:37
2019 a second round pick.
24 Sep 2017 12:11:13
In other words, the Cavs get rid of every crappy player on their roster and pick up two starters. Can't see any problem with that.
24 Sep 2017 14:10:51
In all fairness Supercollider, it worked for the Thunder.
23 Sep 2017 18:41:13
Cle: Z Collins+ C Anthony
port: K Love
NY: Harkless+E Davis+Osman+ 1rnd pick Portland+ 2rnd pick Minny 2019+ 2rnd pick Miami 2019
13 Sep 2017 10:49:25
Cavaliers-Thunder-Suns-Heat
Cavs get Whiteside , Singler & Warren
Thomas-Rose-Calderon
Smith-Shumpert
James-Korver-Singler
Crowder-Warren-Frye
Whiteside-Zizic
Thunder get Love & Chandler
Westbrook-Felton
Roberson-Ferguson
George-Abrines-Grant
Love-Patterson
Chandler-Kanter
Suns get Thompson & Heat 1st
Bledsoe-Ulis-Knight
Booker-Dudley
Jackson-Millsap
Chriss-Williams
Thompson-Bender
Heat get Nets 1st, Thunder 1st & Adams
Dragic-Johnson
Waiters-McGruder
Winslow-Richardson
Johnson-Olynyk
Adams-Adebayo
13 Sep 2017 12:52:17
The Cavs probably get slightly worse here while also giving up the Nets pick.
13 Sep 2017 20:59:48
I don't like it for the thunder. They are losing young adams who still has plenty of time to improve and a 1st round pick for kevin love who often has health problems and is not consistently effective against the warriors which the Thunder would need in the playoffs.
14 Sep 2017 01:05:04
Sun's already have heats pick.
13 Sep 2017 09:26:13
Cavaliers-Heat-Pelicans
Cavaliers get Whiteside
Thomas-Rose-Calderon
Crowder-Smith
James-Korver-Jefferson
Love-Green-Frye
Whiteside-Zizic-Tavares
Heat get Nets pick, Thompson, Ajinca , Etwann Moore
Dragic-Moore
Waiters-Johnson
Winslow-Richardson-McGruder
Johnson-Olynyk
Thompson-Ajinca
Pelicans get Shumpert
Holiday-Rondo
Allen-Crawford
Shumpert-Hill
Davis-Cunningham
Cousins-Asik
13 Sep 2017 17:18:47
I wouldn't trade the Brooklyn pick straight up for Whiteside, never mind trading Thompson and Shumpert.
12 Sep 2017 02:14:47
Pacers/Heat/Jazz
Pacers get 1st round pick MIA (lottery protected), Alec Burks
Heat get Derrick Favors, Pacers 2nd round pick
Jazz get Thad Young, Wayne Ellington
11 Sep 2017 20:50:50
Cavs Pistons
Cavs receive
Drummond
Pistons receive
Thompson
Osman
Cavs 2021 first round pick
Cavs 2020 second round pick from Miami
11 Sep 2017 22:18:43
Without the nets pick, I don't see a Cleveland/ Detroit swap involving Drummond.
08 Sep 2017 06:49:03
heat : john wall, sheldon mac
pistons : dragic, gortat, olynyk
wizards : drummond, jackson, 1st round pick
08 Sep 2017 08:02:48
So the Wizards sign Wall long term just to trade him? Not happening.
08 Sep 2017 23:29:27
Oh wow that is just awful for the Wizards.
09 Sep 2017 17:51:36
This is potentially one of the worst deals ever posted on this site, which is no surprise coming from Miami honk Niko.
Washington might as well trade Beal for Courtney Lee and Otto Porter for CJ Miles while they're dealing Wall for garbage. Wall for Dragic, uh, no.
02 Sep 2017 23:49:10
bucks : whiteside, winslow, richardson, hammons
heat : giannis, vaughn
03 Sep 2017 01:52:30
This was a joke I assume? Giannis is completely untouchable.
03 Sep 2017 19:31:21
It's not bc he is the best. But he is the best player who wants to play in Milwaukee, Green Bay.
04 Sep 2017 00:12:03
Eh. It's also because he potentially will be the best in 3 years.
05 Sep 2017 23:16:58
Thats funny. Where are you guys when we get all the equally ridiculous Anthony Davis trade ideas?
02 Sep 2017 23:23:27
Cavs get cousins
Pelicans get shumpert Frye osman Brooklyn 1st
Cavs get young
Pacers get felder Jefferson zizic heat 2nd cavs 2nd
Cavs sign wade (if bought out) Ellis bogut
Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade Ellis
James crowder korver
Love young green
Cousins thompson bogut
02 Sep 2017 21:30:12
Cavs-Pelicans-Suns
•Cavs get Tyson Chandler
-Sign Dante Cunningham 1yr 2.5m
Lineup:
PG: Thomas, Rose, Calderon, Felder
SG: Crowder, Smith, Osman
SF: James, Korver, Jefferson
PF: Love, Cunningham, Green
C: Thompson, Chandler, Zizic
•Pelicans get Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, and lesser of their own and Miami's 2018 1st (via Suns)
-Sign Derrick Williams, Anthony Morrow
Lineup:
PG: Holiday, Rondo, Jackson
SG: Clark, Morrow, Crawford
SF: Shumpert, Miller, Hill (hurt)
PF: Davis, Frye, Williams
C: Cousins, Diallo, Ajinca
•Suns get Omer Asik, E'Twaun Moore, and better of Miami's and Pelicans' 2018 1st (via Pelicans)
-Re-sign Alex Len
Lineup:
PG: Bledsoe, Ulis, Knight (hurt)
SG: Booker, Moore, Reed
SF: Jackson, Warren, Dudley
PF: Chriss, Williams, Peters
C: Bender, Len, Asik.
02 Sep 2017 22:16:28
Not terrible, but I think either the Suns would need to get the Pelicans first outright or they get Frye (expiring) and NOs keeps Asik.
04 Sep 2017 01:10:33
Pretty good.
05 Sep 2017 21:31:46
Thank you NBA for showing the Cavs fans there is a viable trade without Cousins being sent out.