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24 Aug 2015 18:57:22
HEAT SUNS

HEAT get : Markieff Morris

SUNS get : Josh McRoberts, Chris Andersen & 2018 1st round pick

HEAT get a more formidable bench with this acquisition while SUNS get 2 veterans to make some frontcourt depth plus a 1st rd pick

HEAT

G.Dragic/M.Chalmers
D.Wade/J.Winslow/T.Johnson
L.Deng/G.Green/H.Walker
C.Bosh/M.Morris/U.Haslem
H.Whiteside/A.Stoudemire

SUNS

B.Knight/A.Goodwin/R.Price
E.Bledsoe/D.Booker
P.Tucker/T.Warren
J.McRoberts/M.Teletovic
T.Chandler/A.Len/C.Andersen

24 Aug 2015 20:46:36
Too much for Morris. If I were Suns I would be happy to get McRoberts and Birdman.

21 Aug 2015 17:26:33
Heats last moves

Chalmers to jazz for a pick

Mcroberts to clippers for J Crawford

21 Aug 2015 23:25:12
I like the mcroberts for Crawford swap

22 Aug 2015 20:32:27
Both are good.

20 Aug 2015 18:41:48
Clippers-Heat-Knicks

Clippers gets: Calderon, Knicks 2nd

Heat gets: Wilcox, Early (save money)

Knicks gets: Crawford, Chalmers

17 Aug 2015 14:46:39
NYK - MIA - CHI

NYK get: Hassan Whiteside & Jimmy Butler

pg. Grant
sg. Afflalo
sf. Butler
pf. Prozingis
c. Whiteside

MIA get: Carmelo Anthony & Robin Lopez

pg. Dragic
sg. Wade
sf. Melo
pf. Bosh
c. Lopez

CHI get: Luol Deng & Justice Winslow

pg. Rose
sg. Winslow
sf. Deng
pf. Gasol/Mirotic
c. Noah/Gibson

17 Aug 2015 15:16:18
Bulls fan: I'd rather keep Jimmy Butler.

17 Aug 2015 19:54:29
Removing Chicago and making it Melo and Lopez for whiteside, Winslow, and deng makes a lot more sense. Not sure if either side does that, but the value is probably there on both sides.

16 Aug 2015 15:45:06
Bulls heat

Deng + Chalmers

For

Gibson, McBuckets, Bairstrow

Bulls get back their great SF
Heat get young SF and cut almost 3 mil in salary

16 Aug 2015 19:38:55
Sent is no longer great.

16 Aug 2015 06:18:10
HEAT SUNS PACERS

HEAT get : highly protected 2nd round pick from PHX & Shayne Whittington (cut)

SUNS get : 2nd round pick from IND, Josh McRoberts, CJ Miles & Ian Mahinmi

PACERS get : Markieff Morris

HEAT save money and logjam at PF is solved

G.Dragic/M.Chalmers
D.Wade/J.Winslow/T.Johnson
L.Deng/G.Green/J.Ennis
C.Bosh/A.Stoudemire
H.Whiteside/C.Andersen/U.Haslem

SUNS load their roster

B.Knight/A.Goodwin/R.Price
E.Bledsoe/D.Booker
P.Tucker/C.Miles/T.Warren
J.McRoberts/M.Teletovic
T.Chandler/A.Len/I.Mahinmi

PACERS get needed PF

G.Hill/R.Stuckey/J.Young
M.Ellis/G.Robinson
P.George/C.Budinger/S.Hill
M.Morris/L.Allen
J.Hill/M.Turner

16 Aug 2015 03:56:39
76ers / Suns / Twolves

Sixers get Muhammad and Morris

Sun's get Bennett, Landry

Twolves get Miami's or Okcs #1 2016(whichever is better), R.Holmes, J.Grant

Sixers add needed scoring and still keep young core.
Sun's get a young Pf in Bennett and vet Pf in Landry to fill Morris void.
Twolves get a #1 pick and two young, very athletic fowards with upside.

16 Aug 2015 14:02:39
Sixers get Morris and shabazz for 1 mid to late 1st rounder? I'm not huge on shabazz because of his injuries, but even I agree this is a ridiculous undervalue of those two.

16 Aug 2015 15:03:18
Pi,za,do you only read the part of the post you choose? Sixers are also giving Grant and Holmes. Two young frontcourt guys Twolves may like to develop with the young guys they have. Again, like my wife, only hearing what she wants to make her side of the discussion stronger. C'mon already.

16 Aug 2015 22:01:05
For all the crap I've given you jvoug and the rest of the Philly fans on here; I think you've finally proposed a reasonable trade. Shabazz is still young and is a good scoring punch off the bench, so I'm not sure MIN gives him up, but they'd get good value in return (I like Grant, Holmes has some potential and I'd say only for the MIA pick because of the protections on OKCS's).

Again, doubt this trade will happen, but fair value for everyone, well done.

16 Aug 2015 23:00:19
The Wolves have enough young forwards with upside, and the Wolves are high on Muhammed, they would want Morris in this deal, not more guys they need to develop

17 Aug 2015 12:23:11
@WolvesFan: if you read into the trade the Twolves are winning. They are pretty-much receiving 1st Rnd Pick and two 2nd Rnd picks (in player form). Not a bad trade for a team that's only giving up a player that hasn't panned-out as the #1 overall pick since season one of his career in the league. And your complaining??? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. !

good trade Jvoug

17 Aug 2015 14:21:06
You're forgetting the Wolves give up Muhammad, he is the centerpiece of the trade for the Wolves, Bennet is just a throw in

13 Aug 2015 00:38:22
UTAH-SAC-Miami

Utah gets Collison

SAC gets Burke, Birdman and second from Utah

Miami gets David Stockton

Utah needs guard depth with exums injury and bringing in Collison could really help them fill the void. Plus he is much better than Burke.

Sac really has no need for Collison with rondo now on the team, and Collison might not wanna stay on the team. Also getting a really good rim protector would help.

This is simply a salary dump for Miami who want to reduce their tax bill.

11 Aug 2015 02:18:10
76ers / Suns

Sixers get Markief Morris, Archie Goodwin, Miami's 2018 #1.

Sun's get: Dario Saric, Carl Landry, okc s 2016 #1

11 Aug 2015 13:42:16
Sarin stinks. Nobody cares about laundry.

11 Aug 2015 15:30:36
Saric is super young and still overseas. Can't say too much about his talent yet but he's definately a great euro. That much is for sure.

I agree on laundry but he's still got some use for a contender.

idk about how much the Suns value saric but it could be a fair trade of the Suns value him as high as the Sixers do.

11 Aug 2015 15:30:47
That thunder pick is another 2 roun pick. Just what suxers want for there garbage squad.

11 Aug 2015 16:16:29
Celtic green

You never know. Durant may not be ready. Westbrook and Durant may not mess together as well now that they have to share the spot light equally. Could be a top 20 in the right scenario.

07 Aug 2015 09:49:43
76ers Get: Boogie

Kings Get: Okafor, Miami 2016 1st, OKC 2016 1st

07 Aug 2015 22:23:25
Kings would never do this. Obviously, Sixers say yes in a heartbeat.

07 Aug 2015 22:48:13
That's a fair value trade if kings need to get rid of cousins. But if not kings didn't drop all that salary just to get rid of their best player.

07 Aug 2015 22:33:57
Swap MIA 1st with PHI own '16 1st

10 Aug 2015 14:27:55
Cousins is worth the 76ers team + 2 first round picks.

06 Aug 2015 08:57:42
Kings Get: Luol Deng, Chris Andersen, Mario Chalmers, Justice Winslow, Hassan Whiteside

Heat Get: DeMarcus Cousins, Darren Collison

Rondo / Chalmers / Curry
McLemore / Winslow / Belinelli
Deng / Casspi / Butler
Gay / Cauley-Stein / Acy
Whiteside / Koufos / Andersen

Dragic / Collison
Wade / Johnson
Green / Ennis
Bosh / Haslem
Boogie / Amare

06 Aug 2015 13:45:33
The Kings would have too many players and the Heat would have too few

06 Aug 2015 14:12:19
This is a TERRIBLE trade for the kings. So they get an over-priced, declining deng on his last year of his contract then he'll leave. The expriing andersen. Chalmers who the heat are shopping for basically anything. Whiteside who is in his final year and most likely will leave. And the 10th pick in the draft? Basically, collison and chalmers are a wash. So what you are in fact doing is giving Cousins, for 3 expiring contracts and the 10th pick in the draft? Even though they rejected the #2 and a much more desirable package. Well played.

06 Aug 2015 15:48:20
Awful all around. (No offense). As a heat fan, I don't want to trade 30% of my team(!) and I don't think either team would be better off afterwards than before.

Deng is a better fit with the heat, and if we don't somehow get durrant, Deng might stay. Whiteside is also likely to stay in Miami but may not stay with kings.

06 Aug 2015 00:26:20
Cavs get Andersen chalmers Solomon hill granger
Pacers get delly Harris
Heat get varejao pointer
Pistons get cash

Cavs get bargnani
Nets get rights to kaun and osman

Irving Williams chalmers
Smith shumpert granger
James hill Jefferson
Love Thompson jones
Mozgov bargnani Andersen

06 Aug 2015 14:44:58
MIA & CLE will never do a deal with each other as long as Riley is in charge.

06 Aug 2015 17:10:11
lmao. load the Cavs and just dump trash on everyone else. silly cav fan

06 Aug 2015 17:33:09
So Detroit dumps Granger's corpse and gets paid to do it?

05 Aug 2015 02:00:14
Cavs get bargnani
Nets get rights to kaun and delly

Cavs get granger
Pistons get cash

Cavs get Andersen chalmers
Heat get varejao and cash

Cavs get kaman
Blazers get osman pointer Harris

Irving Williams chalmers
Smith shumpert granger
James Jefferson jones
Love Thompson Andersen
Mozgov kaman bargani

02 Aug 2015 23:25:36
76ers / Heat

Sixers are making trades to position themselves to draft Ben Simmons and Jamal Murray, currently ranked #2 and #6 by draftexpress in next year's draft. These two players would fit perfectly in the rebuild. Simmons is a 6'10" forward who handles like a guard, and Murray is a sweet shooting 6'5" pg with a bball IQ off the charts. I think Philly's lack of pursuit for a quality pg makes this evident. They have 4 picks in the first round next year, and that draft will make or break the rebuild and Sam Hinkie.

Sixers get Birdman(immediately cut) and top 10 protection removed from Miami pick next year.

Miami gets highly protected second that will never convert and salary relief from birdmans contract.
Similar to the Thompson trade they just made. However, wade and bosh are both injury prone, and both could be sidelined. That's what happened last year. With the protection removed, Hinkie covers another scenario that could weaken his draft day.

03 Aug 2015 11:26:44
Not sure heat will remove top 10 protection, but if so we want to dump Chalmers 100% more than birdman. Both would be way down in minutes given heat roster, but bird man is a fan favorite and sells jerseys. Let's just say no one wears Chalmers jersys.

03 Aug 2015 14:50:16
Ben Simmons likely is number one at this point. But we will see when the season starts

03 Aug 2015 17:17:00
You're really lowering the bar for a salary dump. That's taking on Anderson's $ for basically nothing. Once you do that, you'll never have leverage again. No way the Sixers do that.

02 Aug 2015 01:35:01
Cavs get kaman Andersen chalmers granger
Heat gets varejao 2nd
Blazers get Johnson delly pointer
Pistons get Harris

Sign boozer

Irving Williams chalmers
Smith shumpert granger
James Jefferson jones
Love boozer Andersen
Mozgov Thompson kaman

02 Aug 2015 10:49:47
What Johnson are you talking about, because if it is Stanley Johnson the pistons say hell no.

02 Aug 2015 13:40:11
Tyler Johnson from Miami

02 Aug 2015 01:16:17
Cavs get kaman
Blazers get rights to kaun and cash

Cavs get Andersen and chalmers
Heat get osman Harris pointer

Irving Williams dellevedova
Smith shumpert chalmers
James Jefferson jones
Love Thompson Andersen
Mozgov varejao kaman

01 Aug 2015 14:35:41
Cavs get Novak granger 2nd
Thunder get Harris
Pistons get pointer

Cavs get Andersen
Heat get 2nd

Irving Williams dellevedova
Smith shumpert granger
James Jefferson jones
Love Thompson Novak
Mozgov varejao Andersen

31 Jul 2015 07:54:22
3 team trade:

Crawford to Heat
Chalmers and Andersen to Sixers
Thompson to Clippers

Heat wants Crawford to backup Wade and Dragic
Chalmers will be the starting PG and waive Andersen
Thompson will serve as Hawes replacement

31 Jul 2015 11:59:10
Heat would love that (currently $7mill or so over tax line, dump $9.4 to back Crawfords $5.4(?) mill puts heat only around $3mill over cap and benefit from Crawford with no real loss -- heat won't play Chalmers this season, and Anderson would play but he now overlaps with amare, so he's expendable, although much loves in Miami)

76ers would actually benefit from Chalmers plus he would actually see real minutes, so that's a positive for all. Anderson being waived would cost 76ers additional cash. Miami can't supply it because after the zoran and Shabazz trades we only have $700k in cash to spend which isn't enough. That may hurt how philly sees that part

Clippers is the real hard part -- Crawford is worth getting a return on and Althogh over tax I don't know if they want to just give Crawford away in return for just putting a cheap body on the bench to lower tax hit.

I'd love to see anyone's reaponse, but I think this trade would make more sense for clippers if they somehow got Anderson for cheap as well, which could possibly be done after the waive of Anderson by philly. But I still think philly needs a sweetener. Miami has no picks and no cash.

31 Jul 2015 12:39:24
Really like the thought process.

But there are a couple of flaws. From Sixers perspective, they receive a contract dump. They way things have been playing out, they shouldn't have to trade Jason Thompson in that deal. I know its "NBA twisted" but that's how its been playing out. Consider it this way- think through from Sixers and Heat perspective if you take Anderson out of the deal.

Second, I think this trade really helps Miami. The Sixers have the Miami pick. So they'll be defeating their own "process." Again, "NBA twisted."

31 Jul 2015 15:02:06
Sixers would need make take on throw two salaries. Obviously that how the Sixers do things. This is not a brand new idea. They don't want vets right now so chalmers unless he's a superstar not being used correctly is useless to them at this point. We would need a first rounder to obsorb those two contracts.

31 Jul 2015 15:57:15
Bump, phillyrich

That's why I assume it's philly who needs a sweetener in the deal if Anderson could make it to clippers. I think although it's a salary dump, Chalmers is a decent option for you guys a pg given the market. You still need more though to make this work.

31 Jul 2015 18:11:11
Yea. I want a real PG so I'd like to see Chalmers come to Philly. There must be some complicated deal in the works like you've described or else he'd be out of Miami by now.

31 Jul 2015 21:19:27
Phillyrich, the complication on the deal is that no one wants to pay $4.5mil for chalmers. Even here in Miami we know he's got skills and can put up decent numbers most nights, but we don't use him right, and he needs a team that will. We play our 1guards, 2guards, and small forwards at point at different times so although he's a solid player, he's not Wade or dragic, so being so far over the cap we don't want to pay him that much either -- would rather develop the young guys for cheap.

I think philly is playing the market and seeing who they get at the most reaonable price/quality ratio -- seeing if they can get a solid player for less $. My bet is Chalmers will make it to Philly this year but not in a hurry.

I just hope the deal gets complicated and nets Miami crawford (probably won't unless we trade Deng)

31 Jul 2015 23:53:40
Thompson traded to Golden State for Gerald Wallace.

01 Aug 2015 05:58:45
Thompson was traded to warriors.
Instead of JT, Landry going to Clippers

30 Jul 2015 18:53:08
Bucks-Clippers-Heat

Bucks-clippers trade
Gutierrez (non guaranteed) + Plumlee for Crawford

Bucks get a sixth man shooter, who can fill in for Parker and have the bucks going small to start the year with
MCW-Crawford-Middleton-Giannis-Monroe without sacrificing the bench.

Once healthy Bucks depth chart looks like.
1) MCW
2) Middleton
3) Giannis
4) Parker
5) Monroe

6) Crawford
7) Henson
8) Vasquez
9) Mayo (Vaughn next year, D-league this year)
10) Copeland
11) bayless (Ennis next year)
12) Inglis/job (d-league)


Clippers save a ton of money with luxury tax and get a back up Center.

29 Jul 2015 21:55:30
Cavs get Andersen chalmers plumlee 2nd via Miami
Miami gets Haywood exception
Bucks get miller exception Harris

Irving Williams dellevedova
Smith shumpert chalmers
James Jefferson jones
Love Thompson Andersen
Mozgov varejao plumlee

30 Jul 2015 06:14:43
Haywood is in Portland now.

30 Jul 2015 12:44:43
The trade exception for Haywood they got from Portland

30 Jul 2015 14:27:19
You can't trade TPEs

 
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