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06 Dec 2016 05:07:38
Best Demarcus trades.
I guess nobody sees him staying in Sacramento, and only a few teams have the assets to make a trade with the kings without totally stripping their team to nothing.
2017 first rounder (top 10 likely)
Future 1st round pick (either miamis or their own)
Bender and Chriss both play power forward, while I think they could make an interested front court, getting cousins makes this a great playoff team.
2017 Brooklyn (top 10)
2018 Brooklyn (top 10)
The celtics have so many options who they could trade. But this is way more favorable in my eyes then the suns trade with the two Brooklyn picks.
I don't think their are any other teams that can beat those offers, prove me wrong!
06 Dec 2016 11:03:46
I don't think Cousins has much value.
He's playing great, but he can't bring his team into the playoffs.
He's 26 years old and he's playing for a big contract. So he should go to a team that's in a win now modus and that doesn't need to strip their own team to get him. So their are many teams that can make an offer
Why should he go to Phoenix? To play with his friend Bledsoe? That team can make the playoffs, but they can't beat the Warriors, clippers, spurs or OKC. So they're playing for a second round exit.
So if i where the Suns, I would only offer the Miami picks and B Knight
Boston has the assets, but they still need another player if they want to beat Cleveland. So they should only offer one Nets pick.
2018 Nets pick+ Smart+ J Brown would be a great return for Sacramento.
Personally, i think Portland could get in the mix. They can offer McCollum. They like him, but they also have Crabbe, Aminu and Turner, so he's expendable. They're in a win now mode and they need do do something. The tandem Cousins-Lillard could be great.
Another team that's in a win now mode is Toronto. Not sure they have enough assets. They can't offer a star, but they have some draft picks.
They could make a trade around T Ross+ Poetl+ Powell+ 1rnd pick Clippers+ 1rnd pick Tor 17/ 19/ 21
Chicago would be a good destination for him. Not sure they have enough assets too, but they could return the sacramento pick. They need a third team that would take Mirotic and Portis.
Washington could offer Porter, Beal and a draft pick. I would like to see D Cousins and J Wall playing together.
Milwaukee has some good assets to.
Beasly+ Middleton+ 1rnd pick 17 and 19 would be a good offer fo sacramento
The Lakers could also do an offer. They should keep their young players and rebuilt. But they like stars. So they could make a deal involving Russell or Ingram.
Minny could make an offer. The tandem Cousins/ KAT would be unstopable.
Z Lavine+ Dunn+ Pekovic+ 2017 1rnd pick.
06 Dec 2016 14:07:51
I would do Ballhog's Kings-Celtics trade, but would ask that Casspi be included in the deal. Sacramento probably would agree to that, because he wants out anyway.
Three rotation players plus two high lottery picks for Boogie and Casspi seems fair.
06 Dec 2016 15:31:39
There has been a lot of debate over if Portland would trade McCollum for cousins among blazers fans Gusapo. I think the kings wouldn't be smart to consider that, McCollum could be a top 10 scorer if given the keys to a team. But I don't think I'd trade a 20 ppg scorer locked in for 5+ years for a guy who has a year left on his deal and could bolt, especially since it wouldn't just be those two straight up.
06 Dec 2016 16:21:04
The kings would be smart*.
06 Dec 2016 17:27:42
good point, but the duo Lillard/ McCollum can't beat S Curry/ K Thompson
I like the Combo Cousins/ Lillard. They can become the next S Kemp/ G Payton or K Malone/ J Stocton
I believe Cousins would stay in Portland
there 're only a few good big men available the next two years and D Cousins is en upgrade over McCollum, who's also 25 years. so i would take that gamble.
06 Dec 2016 19:22:31
Honestly, I just don't like cousins. He's too much like someone else Portland had: Rasheed Wallace. Neither are winners, neither are leaders. I don't love the 50/ 50 gamble of either:
1. Lillard and cousins are a great duo. They lead Portland to a conference finals
2. Cousins proves he's a cancer. He gets stotts fired (who I'm a huge fan of) . He guts the team (as it takes McCollum and harkless and plumlee to get him probably) . Then he bolts. Portland instantly becomes a bottom 5 team.
Maybe it's the fear I have from the jailblazers era, but guys like cousins scare me more than inferior players.
06 Dec 2016 19:55:29
Whoever wants to be golden state, needs a player like cousins.
02 Dec 2016 22:45:53
Wizards receive - G. Dragic, Skal Labissiere and a first rounder from the Kings
Kings receive - John Wall
Heat receive - D. Collison, R. Gay.
03 Dec 2016 01:09:22
Horrible for the Wizards.
03 Dec 2016 17:10:49
Not that horrible for Wizards. Kings need to give up a lil more tho. I'd add Willie Cauley Stein to the wizards.
30 Nov 2016 10:25:32
Indy: D Cousins
Phoe: M Turner+ R Gay
Sac: G Robinson+ M Ellis+ B Knight+ 1rnd pick Indy 17 and 19+ 1rnd pick Phoe 17+ 1rnd pick Miami 18.
29 Nov 2016 19:44:05
Trade: 1rnd pick Nets 18+ Jerebko
trade: J Wall
Receive: B Knight+ Chriss
Trade:Bender+ Chriss+ T Chandler+B Knight
1rnd pick Miami 18 and 2021+ 1rnd pick Phoenix 17
receive: D Cousins+ J Wall
Trade: D Cousins
Receive: T Chandler+ Jerebko+ 1rnd Pick Phoenix 17+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Miami 18+ 1rnd pick Miami 21.
30 Nov 2016 18:04:59
Wow. Nets 18 for Bender? That's horrible.
27 Nov 2016 17:03:49
Wash: Dragic+ Labissiere+ WC Stein+ 1rnd pick Sac 2017+ 1rnd pick Sac 2021
Sac: J Wall+ C Bosh
Miami: D Collison+ R Gay+ Koufos.
26 Nov 2016 00:02:19
Heat get Jabari Parker
Bucks get Goran Dragic and justice Winslow.
26 Nov 2016 00:56:37
Decent, except salary doesn't work and Heat would be lacking at point guard.
26 Nov 2016 02:18:41
Now everyone is on the jabari parker bandwagon sorry people he's not going anywhere and this package ain't going to do it.
26 Nov 2016 04:21:07
I mean on paper it makes sense because Bucks could use a pg and they'd be getting a decent prospect in Winslow in return. Issue is neither are particular great shooters (winslow is real bad compounding Bucks issues) and Parker has looked like a potential star thus far this season. Can't see Bucks accepting this offer. They have something special with Parker, Giannis and once he is healthy Middleton. Although the 3 kind of all play the same position they all have different skill sets and I think that versatility is unique and something that is becoming the Bucks identity.
25 Nov 2016 22:42:12
Heat get Darren Collison, Kosta Koufos, and draft rights to Arturas Gudaitis
Kings get Goran Dragic.
25 Nov 2016 23:55:38
Quite the underwhelming offer for Dragic. If Heat deal him I'm sure they're looking to rebuild and this trade doesn't do that. Dragic is very capable player still.
26 Nov 2016 00:59:04
Dragic is also 30 years old with 4 years remaining on his rather large contract.
25 Nov 2016 19:31:11
heat : wall, morris
wizards : gay, collison, mclemore, pick from the kings
kings : porter, dragic, mcroberts.
25 Nov 2016 23:56:58
How are you going to absolutely rob the Wizards like that?
25 Nov 2016 19:07:28
heat : dunn, hill
twolves : deng, dragic, mcroberts
lakers : muhammad, pekovic.
25 Nov 2016 23:58:48
Can't imagine Twolves rushing things and getting older. Doesn't match their core and even with Dragic they aren't close to contenders.
25 Nov 2016 14:37:34
Minnesota winter moves :
Wolves - Magic - Nuggets
Shabazz Muhammad + 2017 1st pick to Orlando
Aaron Gordon to Denver
Kenneth Faried to Minnesota
Wolves - Heat
Ricky Rubio and Nemanja Bjelica to Miami
Goran Dragic to Minnesota.
25 Nov 2016 18:53:32
That is way to much contract for Minnesota to be taking on when they want to play in free agency the next couple of years.
25 Nov 2016 19:05:01
is Dragic an upgrade over rubio? I think Aaron Gordon will be valued higher by the Magic.
22 Nov 2016 19:07:13
heat : wall, morris
wizards : dragic, mcroberts, johnson or richardson.
23 Nov 2016 13:25:28
Not even close. You might not get Morris alone for that package. Lol.
22 Nov 2016 11:04:32
Phoe: J Butler
Was: Bender+ Knight
Chi: J Wall+ Cousins
Sac: R Lopez+ Mirotic+ Valentine+ return 1rnd pick 17+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018.
22 Nov 2016 15:31:50
as a suns fan i love this. but the suns should probably give more.
23 Nov 2016 01:46:33
This has got to be a joke. the Bulls get Wall AND Cousins for Jimmy Butler and some role players. Kings get screwed.
22 Nov 2016 10:52:10
Boston: B Lopez
Phoe: A Johnson+ Bogdanovic
Nets: Jerebko+ T Chandler+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018+ 1rnd pick Nets 2018
Boston does this:
They receive a good center and this trade would make the Nets worse, so the 2017 pick would be better
They receive two good veterans and capspace in 2017
They can start rebuilding in 2018 (one year earlier), with two good draft picks.
22 Nov 2016 12:00:19
Not sure about the Suns, but value-wise it seems to work for Boston and Brooklyn. Problem is, the Celtics are thinking bigger than Lopez, and giving up that Nets pick now might make a bigger trade impossible.
22 Nov 2016 13:45:18
I agree Boston is lookinf for a better star?
But who can they get? Cousins?
I would rather have B Lopez and the 17 pick.
C: B Lopez
PG: I Thomas
They could draft Jackson with that Nets pick
so they would have; J Brown/ Jackson and Smart as a second unit.
22 Nov 2016 18:05:19
Gasupo -- There is no doubt that that deal makes the Celtics better. The problem is that it also creates a ceiling. They would probably be better than Toronto but still not as good as Cleveland. And if you're not the lead dog, the view is the same.
Now, if you can guarantee that there's enough money left and Hayward comes as a free agent this summer, maybe I'd bite on Lopez. Have to think about it.
I like Lopez a lot, but I wouldn't include either Nets pick to get him. Can't read Ainge's mind, but my guess is that he feels the same way.
21 Nov 2016 09:27:31
1) Boston- Miami
Miami: 1rnd pick 17 (Nets swap) + smart+ A Johnson
2) Miami- Sac
Miami: WC-Stein+ R Gay
Sac: G Dragic+ 2rnd pick
draft: Giles and Jackson
C: WC Stein
PF: H Giles
21 Nov 2016 11:05:08
GOod trades, but if you want to start Winslow at the 3, then re-sign Gay and play him at the 4 and Gilles at 5. WCS off the bench. Smart and Winslow playing together, even though they would destroy other team's O, they would also have teouble scoring. Enters Gay with 20ppg in heavy minutes and shots.
21 Nov 2016 15:24:56
I believe this type of scenario would be wise for the Heat to seriously consider. To BHCs point it may be better if they got Rozier instead of Smart (Cs probably would prefer that as well) . The nets pick doesn't seem to be the lock for a top 5 pick everybody thought it was so I think that is still fair value. Whiteside would give Celtics a dominant center (locked up longterm) that Warriors and Cavs couldn't match and allow Horford to play pf where I think his combo of size and skills will make him a matchup nightmare.
Personally I believe Kings should deal Cousins but they could make a last ditch effort in trying to retain him by getting Dragic who should play well with him.
Heat get to rebuild and I'm a believer in WCS to develop into a Whiteside-esque player. Their pick becomes more valuable and they should get two high lotto picks to add to core of Winslow and a solid young pg from Cs. Gay is an awkward fit there but he'll likely be gone in a year and can put up numbers to inflate his FA value.
16 Nov 2016 18:20:52
My trade scenario for team
5. Boston Celtics
Boston get Whiteside and Waiters
Miami get Amir Johnson, Zeller, Smart,2018 Boston 1st rounder and either clippers or grizzlies first rounder.
-> I think Whiteside would be a good fit next too Horford, bc he's a great paint protector and rebounder, and he's athletic. Waiters is a backup for the shooting guard position, but he's mainly in it to make it work with the salaries.
Miami on the other hand need a rebuild.
You might say they would rebuild around Whiteside, but he's not a player that takes u into the finals as a first option.
They get a couple of future first rounders and 2 decent big men + a needed backup pg with Smart.
The 2018 first rounder isn't likely to have good value bc boston is likely to challenge for a title with whiteside, but the second one is a wild card. If you think 2 draft picks are too much take the second one out, but I think Whiteside has big value.
16 Nov 2016 20:08:48
So, the C's manage to get Whiteside without giving up a Nets pick and a better player than the three you listed above, good luck with that.
16 Nov 2016 20:15:30
16 Nov 2016 22:04:02
Ok then insted of the 2 picks put 1 brooklyn pick into it.
But the idea is good, isn't it?
16 Nov 2016 23:38:20
It's not good Prodigy, the players you're dealing don't have much value either, and with Miami looking to rebuild with a young core, why do they give up their best young asset?
17 Nov 2016 00:34:01
no. its a pretty stupid idea. Great, the celtics want whiteside. how is that a good idea if the package you give for him is laughably low in value.
17 Nov 2016 09:35:54
I am a heat fan myself and I think when you include these players plus a brooklyn pick and one or two of Bostons 2019 first round picks its a fair trade.
I just am bad at valueing picks, and I didn't want to overpay my team.
My trade scenarios always tend to have more sense for the team I wrote above.
I try to make it better the next times.
17 Nov 2016 13:58:10
correct. yet you didn't include the brooklyn pick, which is clearly the most valuable asset. so again, that's good you are a heat fan, and that's fine you don't understand pick values. then try at least offering similar value in players.
18 Nov 2016 16:56:39
Brookyln picks will be needed. At least one.
15 Nov 2016 07:54:29
Trade scenario for team
4.Golden State Warriors
Warriors get Whiteside, Richardson and 2nd Rounders
Miami get Thompson, Pachulia and Livingston
-> I think this tradkes sense for both, bc the Warriors t a decent young replacemen for Thompson with Richarn and one of the best paint protectors in our league.
Miamin get a great sg and a replacement dor Whiteside and a backup pg, because I think they need one, and the Warriors have McCaw. They get 2 2 rounders for that.
15 Nov 2016 10:10:44
well my spelling ****ed up.
I think this trade makes sense for both, bc the Warriors get a decent young replacement for Thompson with Richardson and one of the best paint protectors in our league.
Miami get a great sg and a replacement for Whiteside and a backup pg, because I think they need one, and the Warriors have McCaw. They get 2 2nd rounders for that.
15 Nov 2016 13:16:22
If the Warriors were to look to move thompson, this isn't bad.
15 Nov 2016 16:04:01
not going to happen, but this could benefit both teams.
15 Nov 2016 01:43:06
Raptors and heat
Raptors get Hassan whiteside and windslow
Heat get JV, Ross first round, second round draft pick
15 Nov 2016 13:18:53
Miami hangs up.
21 Nov 2016 02:43:14
Why JV is a much better center then whiteside on the offence and a solid screen and roll center the only reason I suggested this trade is because the way the raptors run there offence they don't need a force down low they need a defensive center and a stretch 4.
12 Nov 2016 21:15:32
Heat Get: Tony Parker, Kyle Anderson, 2017 1st
Spurs Get: Goran Dragić.
12 Nov 2016 23:50:40
Spurs won't trade a leader for a point guard that just as good as him.
12 Nov 2016 03:07:08
Phoenix acquire J. Parker and R. Vaughn
Bucks acquire E. Bledsoe and H. Whiteside
Heat acquire G. Monroe, D. Bender and 1st rd pick Bucks.
13 Nov 2016 00:02:26
miami say no.
13 Nov 2016 00:18:10
Ya, Milwaukee will trade one of their cornerstones.
07 Nov 2016 13:14:36
NYK/ CLE/ MIA
To NYK - Dragic, Richardson
To CLE - Melo
To MIA - Love
While Dragic is playing PG currently, he has experience playing off the ball. Putting him at SG and letting Rose be a little more selfish with the ball could work. Richardson has the size to play the three, and Lee could slide there to help alleviate the loss of Melo.
Cleveland upgrades offensively and gets a friend of Bron.
Miami has a big hole at the four with Bosh's injury, and Love fills that well. With his ability to play on the perimeter, a partnership with Whiteside would work well.
07 Nov 2016 17:09:28
I don't think Dragic is a good fit in NY
He should be a PG, not a SG.
Ik like this for cleveland. Melo deserve a title.
K Love would be a great fit in Miami, but who would play PG?
07 Nov 2016 17:32:53
Knicks getting hosed. Dragic doesn't have this kind of value.
08 Nov 2016 16:52:32
Knicks say no way. Dragic sucks and we have Rose . Melo is worth much more.