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25 Nov 2015 22:13:25
Okc get MKG Batum Calderon Grant
Charlotte get Melo Waiters
Knicks get Durant Payne Augustin.

26 Nov 2015 02:26:13
OKC never makes this deal.

25 Nov 2015 19:51:02
OKC Get: Wesley Matthews

Mavs Get: Steve Novak, Anthony Morrow, Steven Adams, Tony Wroten, Denver 2016 2nd (via Philly), Charlotte 2016 2nd (via OKC), OKC Top 14 Protected 2020 1st (via OKC)

76ers Get: Dion Waiters.

25 Nov 2015 21:10:36
This could work form Sixers point of view.

25 Nov 2015 22:20:54
Way too much for Matthews

25 Nov 2015 15:50:20
3 Team Deal.

OKC trades Morrow
OKC gets Wroten
***Morrow isn't playing much (don't understand why), and Wroten is expiring deal. This helps Thunder gear up for FA next summer.

Philly trades Wroten, 2 second rounders
Philly gets Exum
***Let's see if Exum can live up to the hype. He will have room to play, and the Sixers need a point guard.

Jazz trade Exum
Jazz get Morrow, 2 second rounders
***Morrow is basically good at one thing, but he's really good at that one thing. He will space the floor for a Jazz team that has Gobert and Favors plugging the paint, plus they get a pair of seconds to recoup their loss of Exum.

25 Nov 2015 16:25:26
Jazz say hell no.

25 Nov 2015 16:26:20
Terrible for Utah.

25 Nov 2015 18:18:42
Exuma hurt so in the respect is a chance because they love injured guys.

24 Nov 2015 20:13:14

PHI get Ty Lawson, Kenneth Faried and DEN 1st 2016

Pg Lawson/McConnell/Canaan
Sg Stauskas/Wroten/McRae
Sf Grant/Thompson
Pf Faried/Sampson
Ce Okafor/Embiid

HOU get Jameer Nelson and Robert Covington

Pg Beverley/Nelson
Sg Harden/Covington
Sf Ariza/Brewer
Pf Jones/Moriejunas
Ce Howard/Harrell

DEN get Nerlens Noel, MIA 1st, OKC 1st and Carl Landry

Pg Mudiay/Green
Sg Harris/Foye
Sf Gallinari/Chandler
Pf Noel/Hickson
Ce Nurkic/Jokic.

25 Nov 2015 03:53:11
I don't think this would work for any team.

25 Nov 2015 05:04:54
Philly wouldn't take faried he plays too hard. Philly wants to tank 3 more yrs.

22 Nov 2015 18:33:14
Cleveland Cavaliers And Oakland Thunders

Tristan Thompson For Serge Ibaka

22 Nov 2015 19:41:00
Not enough for Ibaka.

22 Nov 2015 19:59:55
^and Serge Ibaka is not with "Oakland Thunder with an S"

23 Nov 2015 20:27:01
When do the Oakland Thunder play the OKC Warriors? lol.

22 Nov 2015 18:26:56
Oakland Thunders And New York Knicks

Kevin Durant And Carmelo Anthony

22 Nov 2015 19:26:15
I really appreciate how much thought you put into your proposals.

22 Nov 2015 19:50:56
None at all i see smh leuven.

23 Nov 2015 13:43:42
Fuquajay, Leica. Was being sarcastic. Sadly went over your head. Smh lmfao hehe lol.

22 Nov 2015 17:25:30

MIL get Serge Ibaka and Dion Waiters

Pg Mcw
Sg Giannis/Waiters
Sf Parker
Pf Ibaka
Ce Monroe

OKC get John Henson, OJ Mayo, Khris Middleton and 1st round pick

Pg Westbrook
Sg Middleton/Mayo
Sf Durant
Pf Kanter
Ce Adams/Henson.

22 Nov 2015 19:45:01
OKC gets way too much.

22 Nov 2015 20:41:07
Maybe just take out khris middleton.

22 Nov 2015 05:19:10

OKC gets Bayless
-lowers tax
- can package Augustine and Waiters (8 million) for more help as they make a push this year and Bayless is still a better option

Milwaukee gets Payne (Portland 2nd 31-55 protected)
- Bucks have won 33% of their games with MCW at the 1 and fallback long term plan is needed

Portland Ennis and Novak
- Ennis offers backup to Lillard and keeps CJ at the 2 and prevents him from over using him.

21 Nov 2015 20:31:03

LAL get Tony Wroten and OKC pick

PHI get Lou Williams (back)

22 Nov 2015 00:46:02
Make that deal with Minnesota for Muhammad.

22 Nov 2015 01:58:06
Wow. Sixers pass super quick. Lou Williams Has zero value for us and we already had him once. We don't need him again.

22 Nov 2015 12:49:55
Sixers say no. Lou Will is too established of an NBA player for the Sixers to be interested in. There has to be a D-Leaguer, overseas draft and dash and 2nd round pick they could deal Wroten for!

21 Nov 2015 20:18:06
Memphis gets Serge Ibaka

Okc gets Jeff Green, Courtney Lee, and lottery protected 1st.

21 Nov 2015 20:29:38
Z bo Courtney lee and 1st maybe?

21 Nov 2015 17:41:46
3 Team Deal.

OKC gets: Jeff Green and Courtney Lee
Grizz get: Joel Embiid, Anthony Morrow, Nik Stauskas
Philly gets: Dion Waiters, Steve Novak, Protected 1st (OKC)

Thunder go all in on this season. Rockets have shown to not be the same threat in the West we all predicted. Warriors look unstoppable, but Thunder could pose a threat if they peak at the right time. I think adding a 3 and D guy in Lee and reuniting Green with Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka could be great. He can be the 6th man and spark the bench while providing a true backup to KD.

Grizz have looked good this season. They have great defense and are built well. They pull this move to add a proven, great shooter in Morrow, a young shooter in Stauskus, and they get Embiid. They can bring him along slowly and learn under the tutelage of Gasol. This is a move for now and the next few years. Green and Lee are both expiring and they may not be able to keep them anyways. Getting Morrow with that contract along with two young guys with tons of potential is worth it.

Philly supposedly wants Waiters. Trading for him ensures he comes over, plus they get his bird rights before free agency. Losing Embiid may hurt, but that OKC first could be valuable if Durant walks, and with Saric coming over next year and a weak East, it may be time to start thinking about the present over the future.

21 Nov 2015 19:31:44
Thats a false statement. Waiters supposedly wants Philly. He thinks they will offer the most money. He will come to them. Philly has no need to go after him. Least of all, trading embiid after already waiting 2 years.

21 Nov 2015 20:13:55
Embiid has zero trade value.

21 Nov 2015 20:54:19
Embiid needs to play first.

21 Nov 2015 21:52:37
Embiid has trade value. He just isn't tradeable. Until he plays the sixers will keep him. If he's healthy he has tremendous value. When not, he has almost no value. It would be far wiser to just sit on him and pray.

21 Nov 2015 22:11:10
Sixers will not trade embiid for this. Presently his trade value is at the absolute bottom, so why not wait to see if he lives up to even half his potential.

21 Nov 2015 23:24:46
Embiid isn't valueless to PHI, who picked up his option for the 2016-17 season for $4.8 mil. In other words, they were willing to pay $4.6 this year and $4.8 mil next season to see what he may do.

However, there are other teams who not trade for him, because they have tighter constraints on salary, and they are risk-averse over the greater potential to be worth nothing but wasted money.

I call players like this "Powerball tickets. " Success or failure for an NBA team depends on getting lucky and finding these franchise players. Embiid's production will likely never be able to justify the salary, just like the money you spend on a PowerBall ticket costs more than your expected return. However, the slim chance you actually win justifies the fun of gambling for some.

Embid is a giant gamble. PHI can afford to take that gamble, and with fans there still interested, he's probably worth more to them than other teams, so unlikely to be included in a trade. However, I don't think you can say that he has "zero trade value. "

22 Nov 2015 01:58:54
Terrible trade for philly. They are going to take the risk that embiid recovers. no reason not to.

22 Nov 2015 06:10:01
Shrink, what are you talking about?

Sixers fans voice their opinions on here, that's it. The sixers have the second lowest home attendance rate in the entire league. Aka, they make far less than other organizations. What are you talking about with they can afford to wait because the fans still have interest? What you mean some sixer fans haven't given up on him and that sliver of hope is worth oodles? That's nonsense

Also, powerball tickets? We understand the concept. You never refer to them as powebrball tickets. How often do you talk about this specific group to have a nickname for them? What's great is you give the bs nickname and then proceeded to make up some rationale on how you came about this amazing nickname. Just calm your jets.

22 Nov 2015 16:05:12
Do not eat to much pizza, drink better smoothies.

22 Nov 2015 16:07:21
Question: I am a foreigner, but what is the common speech for nit-pickers or inch-pincher?

22 Nov 2015 16:38:34
pIzza - i just wanted to address a couple of your misconceptions:

First, it is certainly untrue that since PHI has second lowest attendance, "aka they make far less than other organizations. " Gate receipts only represent a fraction can NBA team's revenues. Even if revenues were entirely based on ticket sales, some markets can charge three times as much for a ticket, so attendance alone would still not mean that "they make far less than other organizations. "

As for Embiid having more value in Philadephia, it is because both fans and front office have invested in him. People in Philadelphia still think about the guy, and hope that he can become a star. In other markets, he is more of an afterthought until he shows he can perform on the court. A deal at this point hardly helps another team from a marketing standpoint. The front office is invested in Embiid too. Not only have they sunk the money into the guy, but since he was their pick, he also carries some of their credibility. It is far harder for a front office to say, "I give up - I really screwed up picking that guy" than it is for them to say, "He's young and promising - just wait and you'll see I was right about the kid. Just wait! "

22 Nov 2015 17:02:29
Let me add one more piece of information that could be interesting to the PHI fans.

While actual attendance is low for PHI in the arena, the area is the fourth biggest market in the United States. TV viewership (and the advertising revenue it generates) is a huge concern for the NBA, so much so that they actually have TV benchmarks written into the Collective Bargaining Agreement. This was specifically important to the Sixers last year, when they would have been eligible for revenue sharing, except for the fact that the CBA forbids it for markets that have access to over $2.5 mil TV households!

Here's the bottom line though. While the Sixers have one of the lower franchise values in the NBA ("only" $500 mil! ), they have the potential to be Top Ten, because of the city, the demographics, and the fans. It's possible that you see the front office willing to gamble, holding on to young players like Embid, because if they can find a couple superstars, the Sixers are poised to go from bums to kings.

23 Nov 2015 15:18:57
9th lowest ticket prices. 2nd lowest attendence. = low revenue. But thanks for explaining that if they charge a ton more they can make more money, that definitely went over my head.

Also, you can over analyze your expertise on economics all you want. that's awesome, they have huge potential! How has that huge potential resulted in Miami? They can't give away tickets for free.

Philly is a big market, thanks for telling the people in philadelphia that, we weren't aware. Otherwise, again. low ticket prices, bottom ticket sales AND this is while in a huge market. all that equals a lack of interest.

I still think it's hysterical that you ranted about how you have a specific term for embiid and people such as him, and it's a powerball ticket. And then you decided it necessary to elaborate on the thinking behind this "commonly used Shrink nickname" Too funny man, seriously.

Drainer. answer. if speak no good, make insult not, look funny because. Get it Yoda?

21 Nov 2015 17:17:35

OKC get Courtney Lee and Jeff Green

MEM get Pattrick Patterson, Andre Roberson and Dion Waiters + TOR 2nd

TOR get Steve Novak and Steven Adams

teams get their needs

OKC add 3 and D guard and a Durant reliever

Pg Westbrook/Augustine/Payne
Sg Lee/Morrow/Singler
Sf Durant/Green
Pf Ibaka/McGary
Ce Kanter/Collison

MEM add a scorer and back up PF

Pg Conley/Chalmers
Sg Waiters/Roberson/Adams
Sf Allen/Barnes
Pf Randolph/Patterson
Ce Gasol/Wright

TOR get a defensive center to take the place of JV while he's injured

Pg Lowry/Joseph/Wright
Sg Derozan/Ross/Powell
Sf Carroll/Caboclo/Johnson
Pf Scola/Novak
Ce Adams/Biyombo/ (Valanciunas)

21 Nov 2015 04:15:40
MIN: Dennis Schroder, Tiago Splitter
Gives more minutes to wiggins and lavine with the departure of KMart, gets playoff ready players
MEM: Kevin Martin, Dion Waiters
More 3 pt shooting
ATL: Jeff Green, Gorgui Dieng, Tyus Jones
Gets something from Schroder, add depth
OKC: Courtney Lee
Gets their 3 and D guy.

20 Nov 2015 19:03:04
Okc gets Courtney Lee and Tyler Zeller

Memphis gets Dion Waiters and Evan Turner

Boston gets Steven Adams, 2nd rd pick and cash from Memphis.

20 Nov 2015 20:45:47
Replace Turner with Young and it's a deal.
Danny Ainge.

20 Nov 2015 15:12:20
Thunder get Luol Deng

Heat get Cameron Payne and Steve Novak.

20 Nov 2015 16:58:08
C'mon, Deng ain't that bad.
He even plays more minutes per game, than Novak and Payne have played altogether so far this season (25).

19 Nov 2015 17:54:02

OKC get Courtney Lee

Pg Westbrook
Sg Lee
Sf Durant
Pf Ibaka
Ce Adams/Kanter

MEM get Dion Waiters, Thabo Sefolosha and ATL 1st round pick

Pg Conley
Sg Waiters/Thabo
Sf Allen/Barnes
Pf Randolph
Ce Gasol

ATL get Jeff Green and 2nd from OKC

Pg Teague
Sg Korver
Sf Green
Pf Millsap
Ce Horford.

18 Nov 2015 02:23:12
Thunder get Iman Shumpert

Cavs get Mitch McGary and Anthony Morrow.

18 Nov 2015 02:40:31
Cavs need a defensive wing and shumpert is that so unless the Cavs receive a decent defensive replacement then I don't think the Cavs would trade shump not saying value isn't fair just team need.

18 Nov 2015 07:05:03
Mitch McGary and Andre Roberson.

18 Nov 2015 01:51:22

Okc gets- Julius Randle, Nick Young, D'angelo Russell, 2 1st round picks

LAL gets- Westbrook.

18 Nov 2015 03:42:17
Those two draft picks would come in 2020 and 2022. If durant were to leave i still think they would build around Westbrook unless they feel like he would leave in FA in 2017. I say thunder say no.

18 Nov 2015 06:21:50
If the goal of the Thunder is to alienate Durant before he hits free agency, this method that costs wins and removes his co-star will surely do so. Maybe if they set up a fantastic rebuilding deal like this for Durant too?

17 Nov 2015 16:05:53
OKC Get: Wesley Matthews

Mavs Get: Steve Novak, Anthony Morrow, Steven Adams, Tony Wroten, OKC 2016 1st (via Philly), Charlotte 2016 2nd (via OKC), OKC 2020 1st (via OKC)

76ers Get: Dion Waiters.

17 Nov 2015 17:00:10
Check out the stats of Wroten and Waiters. They're very close. Plus Wroten comes at half the cost, can play the PG position, and is less than 20% of the headache. Do the Sixers want that? And do they need to throw in a 1st rounder as a trade kicker?

17 Nov 2015 17:33:53
While I agree, Waiters is definitely not worth a first. I would use caution in "looking at the stats"

Wroten plays for a horrendous team (inflated stats) . He shoots at a worse percentage. Is a horrible 3 point shooter but shoots it almost 5 times a game. Is a very poor free throw shooter. And he is NOT what you want at pg. He turns the ball over at an astounding rate. He led the league last year in TO/48. He's just another d-leaguer that is getting minutes because someone has to get minutes for the sixers.

The sixers will not trade for Waitors. If they decide to sign him to an offer sheet in the off season, that's their problem. But that is the only way he will be coming to Philly.

17 Nov 2015 22:20:42
Wroten is a 22 year old SG that averaged 17 ppg last year. He was forced to play some PG also which accounts for many of his negative ball handling stats. Referring to him as a D-leaguer is an exaggeration. On a better team he would not have the responsibility of forcing the offense, would probably average less and be more efficient.

18 Nov 2015 00:32:16
He averaged 17 a game, while playing only 30 games. If you focus entirely on the 17 a game, sure, he's ok. Even if it was for one of the worst teams in the league.

However, if you actually look at all the stats, he is terribly inefficient.

His numbers last year.26% from 3, 66% from ft, 40% fg, highest amount of turnovers per 48 in the league. He only played for the first half of the season. The primary pg was Michael Carter Williams. His turnovers coincide with his career numbers. Referring to him as a d-leaguer is not an exaggeration. If it was a decent team, those numbers would either wind him up at the end of the bench, or the d-league. The NBA prioritizes possessions. They want guards that can shoot the 3. Not volume shooters at very low percentages. There is a reason that he is the sixers top scorer last year and they were awful.

Perhaps he can improve, but he's going on his 4th year, the numbers are the exact same, just more of it. And he just doesn't hold much worth for any other team.

18 Nov 2015 11:41:02
You're right. He's a d- leaguer and the sixers should release him.

18 Nov 2015 12:31:08
Well, I'm glad you at least see the reasoning. But I would say hold off on that until the sixers have even 2 guards that are nba caliber on their roster. But yes, if the sixers ever develop into a decent team, the glaring weakness is the guard play. Wroten is the peak of that weakness. Just glad you realized this as well.

18 Nov 2015 12:41:09
No. If he's going to be released he should go now or sent to the team's D-league affiliate and not take time from other players. He'll never develop. He's 22 and if he hasn't developed by now, he won't. He's dead to me.

18 Nov 2015 14:17:19
Agreed again. Bit extreme. But yup. Trend is if you don't make steps by the completion of the third year, typically won't. About time you caught on! Seemed like good potential, just never improved. Oh well, you win some you lose some. At least okafor and Noel seem not awful.

17 Nov 2015 04:32:35
Knicks get Kevin Durant with extension

Thunder get Carmelo Anthony, Aaron Afflalo, and Derrick Williams.

17 Nov 2015 14:49:16
How happy do you think Melo would be in the middle of Oklahoma?

Melo does not have anywhere close to the value to get Durant with an extension.

17 Nov 2015 14:54:28
Durant will not sign an extension if the Knicks is weaker than the Thunder but if they could certainly sign a bigtime free agent on summer he will.

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