24 Jul 2016 21:40:31
Bulls: Kanter+ Roberson+ Singer+ Sabonis+ 1rnd pick OKC+1rnd pick OKC 19 (top 7 protected)
OKC: J Butler+ Gibson
C: Kanter/ Portis/ Lopez
PF: Mirotic/ Sabonis
SF: McDermott/ Singer
SG: Wade/ Roberson/ Valentine
PG: Rondo/ Grant.
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24 Jul 2016 21:40:31
24 Jul 2016 21:01:30
Nuggets get Westbrook
Thunder get Faried, Murray, Barton, future first.
24 Jul 2016 21:42:21
I don't think Westbrook want to stay in Denver, so they get screwed.
24 Jul 2016 20:56:51
Bucks get R. Westbrook, S. Adams
Thunder get G. Monroe, MCW, J. Parker.
24 Jul 2016 21:45:39
Rubbish + Parker don't give you Westbrook
So first remove S Adams from this trade,
Ad Giannis and a future drafr pick and the teams could start talking.
24 Jul 2016 10:10:13
OKC Send - Dominic Sabonis, Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler, 2017 1st OKC
Recieve - Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford
LAC Send - Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, JJ Redick, Deandre Jordan, Chris Paul
Recieve - Dominic Sabonis, Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler, 2017 1st round OKC, Kyrie Irving, Harrison Barnes, Wesley Matthews, JR Smith (sign and trade)
CLE Send -Kyrie Irving, JR Smith (sign and trade)
Recieve - Chris Paul, JJ Redick, 2017 1st DAL, 2017 2nd DAL
DAL Send - Harrison Barnes, 2017 1st DAL, 2017 2nd DAL
Recieve - DeAndre Jordan
Well this would be a huge trade. It would never happen but I think it makes sense. OKC look to get back in to finals contention and Griffin is a Oklahoma native. LAC go into rebuild mode and look to build around Kyrie Irving. CLE look to strengthen their team even more and Lebron and Chris Paul are good friends and Lebron has influence on the Cavs. Dallas look to turn one of their free agent signings in to a better player and one they targeted last year in Deandre Jordan. However Dallas called him a coward so they would have to make up. I could see him going to Memphis and replacing Barnes with Parsons. What do you think? Who wins and loses and what changes should be made.
24 Jul 2016 12:00:19
It's to complicated.
Clippers shoulnd't trade all their star players. Griffin and De Andere are still young enough to keep.
I like the CP3 for Irving trade, it should make both teams better, but i think Cleveland is going to say no, why should the champion change a winning team for an older player?
No way Dallas want DeAndre :-), Cuban is crazy but not stupid. The Dallas fans wouldn't accept that trade.
If any team should rebuilt, it's OKC, they better trade Westbrook for picks and young talents.
24 Jul 2016 12:24:49
Why in the world would the clippers trade their team? I don't care what they get that is just terrible.
24 Jul 2016 15:12:53
How does the pile of spare me parts that the Thunder are giving up lands them Griffin?
24 Jul 2016 17:00:57
This one's a cluster.
24 Jul 2016 20:18:50
Well if the clippers keep their team it won't win them a championship or finals appearance.
24 Jul 2016 21:21:55
Griffin and CP3 are both free agents next year so they could theoretically lose both for nothing and their core 3 hasn't been able to do much together thus far so I could see breaking them up but they'd have to get an outrageous offer and this doesn't cut it. With them being free agents not sure they get that offer.
CP3 to Cavs would be interesting (I think he'd make them a better team in short term and bring out a lot more in Love) but don't see them trading Irving after this past finals.
24 Jul 2016 08:19:15
Won't happen but
New Orleans trade
Jrue holiday, tyreke evans and buddy
Westbrook, waiters (s&t) and a second.
24 Jul 2016 12:06:59
I like this idea.
If NO trow in 3 draft picks, OKC should consider this.
A Davis could keep Westbrook in NO, they could become a contender if they can sign a good free agents next year (Hayward? )
I believe OKC can get a better return for Westbrook, Lakers and Bostond could overpay and have the assets to do that.
But Hield is a good rebuilt asset. Kanter, Adams, Hield, Holiday and a high draft pick next year, is a good core to rebuilt.
24 Jul 2016 03:06:04
To LAC : K Love, R Westbrook
To CLE : C Paul, B Griffin, E Kanter
To OKC : K Irving, I Shumpert.
24 Jul 2016 04:25:36
No need for Kanter to be in this trade.
24 Jul 2016 12:24:37
true, leave Kanter out of this trade.
24 Jul 2016 20:02:37
If you leave Kanter out, it might as well just be Kyrie/ Love for CP3/ Blake and leave OKC out completely.
24 Jul 2016 20:04:19
If you leave Kanter out of this trade, you might as well just take OKC completely out of the equation. Kyrie/ Love for CP3/ Blake.
22 Jul 2016 22:46:20
Kings remaining offseason moves
-Trade Rudy Gay to OKC for Dion Waiters (s&t) and Mitch McGary
-3 team trade with Suns and Celtics
Kings get Brandon Knight and a 2nd rd pick from Celtics and Suns
Suns get Marcus Smart and Kosta Koufos
Celtics get Willie Cauley-Stein and Ben McLemore
-Re-sign James Anderson 1yr 2m
Knight/ Collison/ I. Cousins
Waiters/ Temple/ Richardson
Afflalo/ Barnes/ Anderson
Casspi/ Tolliver/ Labissiere
Cousins/ Papagiannis/ McGary.
23 Jul 2016 03:08:03
Boston are not giving up Smart and a 2nd round for cauley-stein and mclemore.
23 Jul 2016 04:56:47
I think Celtics should say yes to that trade. WCS is a good fit next to Horford.
24 Jul 2016 04:18:06
Id take WCS and McLemore over Smart every time.
22 Jul 2016 20:00:15
Who says no
OKC: Griffin, Hawes
LAC: Millsap, Thabo,
ATL: Sabonis, Kidd-Gilchrest, Illysova (cut to save cap), 2017 OKC 1st, 2017 cha 1st
CHA: Kanter, wesley Johnson.
22 Jul 2016 20:13:22
The clippers and Charlotte.
22 Jul 2016 20:44:19
Makes sense and fair deal, just don't see it happening.
The Charlotte 1st should be protected also.
23 Jul 2016 01:07:25
No. Clippers rather have griffin over millsap.
23 Jul 2016 03:11:12
Atlanta get way too much for Millsap and OKC give up too little for Griffin. Not a good trade for Charlotte and horrible for LAC.
22 Jul 2016 11:00:26
Okc trades Kanter Waiters (s&t) and Singler
Sac trades - Gay McClemore and Skal
Westbrook - Payne
Oladipo - McClemore - Morrow
Gay - Roberson
Ilyasova - Sabonis - Skal
Adams - McGary
Temple - Collison
Afflalo or Waiters - Richardson
Barnes - Casspi
WCS - Tolliver
Cousins - Koufos.
22 Jul 2016 13:05:26
Though it is the Kings, so anything is possible, why do they make this move.
By your own lineup layout, you don't even have Kanter or Singler playing. Gay is better than that package, and Waiters would be a nightmare in the same lockerroom as Boogie.
22 Jul 2016 13:07:58
the 3 best players in this deal are all on the same team. try again.
22 Jul 2016 13:25:56
Sac front court - sf-WCS, pf-DMC, c-Kanter ;)
22 Jul 2016 09:13:04
Heat if the decide to rebuild
I know 3 different trades is hard to do but here are 3 trades to do a complete rebuild
1. Trade Whiteside to Celtics
Get - Brown, Johnson, Zizic, Bkl 17 1st, Lac 2018 1st
2. Trade Dragic to Bev McDaniels and Harrell
3. Trade Bosh and Richardson to Okc for Oladipo Ilyasova Payne and 18 protected 1st
Draft Harry Giles and Dwyane Bacon
Payne - Bev
Oladipo - Johnson - McDaniels
Brown - Bacon
Winslow - Ilyasova - Harrell
Giles - Zizic.
22 Jul 2016 11:34:55
IMO it's to much for Whiteside
Boston would offer Brown and zigic or the 1rnd pick (swap with Brooklyn)
I believe Rily doesn't let Bosh play this season so he must retire. And he can hit the fee agent market.
22 Jul 2016 13:12:11
No one is trading for Bosh right now.
22 Jul 2016 14:26:39
Gasupo. the President of the organization can't decide to not "let bosh play this season so he must retire. "
If bosh has clearence from credible doctors, the heat can't force him to retire. All they can do is bench him. He can sit back and collect his massive pay checks before retiring and losing that money.
22 Jul 2016 03:03:55
OKC/ SAC/ ATL
OKC get Kyle Korver, Ben McLemore and Mike Scott + 2nd round from ATL
SAC get Dion Waiters st and 1st from OKC lottery protected
ATL get Rudy Gay.
20 Jul 2016 21:27:21
OKC Thunder rest of offseason
-Trade Mitch McGary for a 2nd rd pick
-Trade Kyle Singler, a 2nd rd pick and rights to Tokoto for anything
-Renegotiate and extend Russell Westbrook 4yr max (including this year) (with player option after 3rd year)
-Extend Steven Adams 4yr 81m
-Sign Semaj Christon 2yr 5m
-Sign Gary Neal 1yr minimum
-Sign Kendrick Perkins 1yr minimum
Roberson, Ilyasova, and 2017 1st rd pick for Blake Griffin. (LA is scared they will lose him in free agency for nothing and no other team is confident enough they can keep him)
2016/ 17 lineup:
Westbrook/ Payne/ Christon
Oladipo/ Abrines/ Neal
Morrow/ Huestis/ Daniel Hamilton
Griffin/ Sabonis/ Collison
Adams/ Kanter/ Perkins
Westbrook wins MVP
Team finishes 5th in west, Wins 4-3 in 1st round. Loses 4-1 to Warriors 2nd round
-Nick Collison retires
-Re-sign Blake Griffin 4yr max with player option
-Re-sign Victor Oladipo 4yr 75m
-Sign Omri Casspi 2yr 10m
-Sign Thabo Sefolosha 2yr 10m
-Sign Thomas Robinson 1yr 3m
-Re-sign Kendrick Perkins 1yr minimum
2017/ 18 lineup:
Westbrook/ Payne/ Christon
Oladipo/ Abrines/ Hamilton
Casspi/ Sefolosha/ Huestis
Griffin/ Sabonis/ Robinson
Adams/ Kanter/ Perkins.
20 Jul 2016 21:58:19
Still not even good enough to beat Watrriors though
21 Jul 2016 04:43:01
If the thunder are 5th in the west, no chance of mvp. Look back and find the most recent mvp for a non-top 3 team.
21 Jul 2016 05:18:34
If Westbrook is averaging or very close to a triple double with 25+ ppg, I think he's winning MVP.
21 Jul 2016 06:00:36
If okc keep westbrook and make the playoffs he is winning that trophy.
21 Jul 2016 15:53:29
Oladipo got to get paid more than that.
21 Jul 2016 21:02:52
Oh really USA. So if the thunder make the playoffs as the 7 seed...he wins the MVP?
Listing of the past 30 mvps and their respective team seatings. The WORST, was 3rd seat, Michael Jordan in 1988(Malone doesn't count because he had tied for the best record). you don't win an mvp because of purely stats...its associated with the teams results. Thus, you are most valuable if your team is one of the best, not just oh, he was on the team and they made the playoffs or averaging inflated stats.
Perfect example. Two years ago, Westbrook averaged 28.1/8.6/7.3...tied for the 8th best record in the league and still came in 4th in MVP voting. And it wasnt even close.
20 Jul 2016 18:17:00
Bucks get Gay and Kanter
Kings get Westbrook and Henson
Okc gets Cousins and Monroe plus Kings 2017 first round pick.
20 Jul 2016 18:17:00
Bucks get Gay and Kanter
Kings get Westbrook and Henson
Okc gets Cousins and Monroe plus Kings 2017 first round pick.
20 Jul 2016 16:22:34
LAL- Russell Westbrook
PHI- D'Angalo Russell
OKC- Jalil Okafor, Julius Randle, and LAL 2017 1st.
LAL get a star to attract some big names to LA again. Westbrook is from CAL so he would be home and likely resign. This gives LA a solid core to build around.
PG- Russell Westbrook
SG- Jordan Clarkson
SF- Brandon Ingram
PF- Luol Deng
C- Timofey Mosgov
PHI gets the much needed backcourt help with Russell. Essentially swapping Okafor for Russell is a win for them.
PG- D'Angalo Russell
SG- Bayless/ Henderson
SF- Ben Simmons
PF- Nerlens Noel
C- Joel Embiid
OKC gets two very good bigs to groom. Although it does admit that they're rebuilding, it would be dumb to let Westbrook walk like Durant.
PG- Cameron Payne
SG- Victor Oladipo
SF- Kyle Singler
PF- Jalil Okafor
C- Steven Adams.
20 Jul 2016 16:45:41
Sixers don't do this with the addition of the Lakers pick. The lakers should be the ones throwing the most into the deal as they are getting the superstar.
20 Jul 2016 17:09:20
I thought LA had their own pick next year. If not then make it 2018. It was meant to be LA throwing their 1st into the trade.
20 Jul 2016 18:03:19
Lakers can't include a 1st til 2021.
20 Jul 2016 19:00:08
the sixers own it.
20 Jul 2016 20:24:44
Hahaha no way. Russell has less value then Okafor in every sense.
20 Jul 2016 21:11:37
@Tregib please explain. LOL.
20 Jul 2016 23:25:58
Why would the thunder want those bigs? They have adams kanter and sabonis already.
21 Jul 2016 04:48:50
Daniel. Don't even try. Read any post involving the sixers and okafor. If it's about the sixers, instantly they aren't getting enough. If it's about okafor, you undervalue him unless you call him basketball Jesus. Tre is a bitter broken record. Just ignore him.
21 Jul 2016 06:09:00
@hamburger will do, thanks for the heads up 😂.
21 Jul 2016 11:48:28
Hamburger-the same can be said for people in here with Russell though. Okafor has atleast showed the ability to put up 17 and 8 in the league as a 19 year old getting double teamed every night. Russell has showed zero.
This debate on these two has consistently been going on here, with the only stance from people being that Russell has a great "skill set", or that they "believe" he has more "potential" then Okafor. I've read a good amount of the commenta, and think Tre's point was only that based on the current body of work, Okafor should demand more than Russell which isn't that farfetched is it?
I mean your the stat guy right?
21 Jul 2016 17:04:23
Russell had an average to bad year last year. Oakfor had a great year. Enough said. Why should we ignore wat we've all seen. Russell might be a worse defender then Okafor and that's saying something. Now if Russell had an amazing year this year we can talk but as of right now the Lakers chose pretty poorly in that draft. So Russell has less value then Oakfor. So why do Sixers give more, and the lakers pick no less, so substantially morE for a guy who played much worse?
21 Jul 2016 17:06:29
O and Daniel. Your really going to listen to guy named hamburger?
I have my opinions and he has nothing to back up his and never has. Doesn't really matter regardless because I, unlike him, can respect a different opinion.
21 Jul 2016 18:24:46
@Tre Russell averaged 13 3 and 3 in an offense that revolved around Kobe jacking up 20 shots a game. Okafor averaged 18 and 7 in an offense that revolved around him. Pretty sure Okafor had one of the highest usage rates in the league.
21 Jul 2016 19:55:56
And Oakfor got double every single night. But wait. Who took more shots. Oakfor or Russell
Oakfor took 14.7 shots per game while being double teamed every night
Russell took 12. Not that far off for a guy who clearly was a fourth best option on a really bad team.
At least Okafor scored against double teams. Russell just missed his wide open looks over and over and over again.
Your not convincing me that Russel, based on that last year of mediocre at best basketball is better the okafors first year. It's not even close.
21 Jul 2016 20:32:58
Not saying Russell had a better year. Pretty obvious he didn't. Okafor was of the most NBA ready prospects last year while Russell is still a work in progress. So to say Okafor has more trade value is completely wrong. As I've stated many times before, back to the basket Centers aren't needed in todays NBA.
Question: Would you rather have Demarcus Cousins or James Harden?
*Not saying they'll end up playing at that level*.
20 Jul 2016 15:58:10
OKC- Blake Griffin, Paul Pierce
MIL- Enes Kanter
LAC- Greg Monroe, Victor Oladipo, OKC 2017 and 2018 top 5 protected
Salaries match up from Trade Machine
OKC is reportedly looking to pair Griffin and Westbrook. They get Griffin to come back home to Oklahoma. This gives OKC a strong starting 5 and another star to keep Westbrook in town.
MIL has been shopping Monroe for some time due to the lack of fit in their system. Kanter is the kind of C they need. He and Parker would play well together. Plumlee would rotate in and share the minutes. This is essentially a wash for them to clear Monroe for a better fit at C.
LAC get Monroe who plays PF better than C to fill the void Griffin left and Oladipo to play the 2 along side Paul. Reddick is not really a fit here now that Crawford resigned. I think they will flip Reddick somewhere for bench help in the frontcourt. They also pick up two 1st round picks in the future from OKC.
20 Jul 2016 17:21:51
Monroe was horrible playing the PF next to Drummond in Detroit and I would expect him to be worse next to Jordan since he is more active around the rim than Drummond was when Monroe and him played together.
20 Jul 2016 06:05:30
Kings trade - 17 1st Gay Collison McClemore and Koufos
Get - CP3 and Kanter
Clips trade - CP3 and Griffen
Get - Westbrook Koufos McClemore and Ilyasova
Thunder trade - Westbrook Kanter and llyasova
Get - Griffin Gay Collison and 17 1st
20 Jul 2016 09:02:11
Love this trade for sacramento :-)
But even if the Clippers do this, CP3 would be gonne after the season.
20 Jul 2016 13:23:16
Clips getting screwed again.
20 Jul 2016 04:43:01
Bold prediction Westbrook stays all year with thunder.
It and pick for Westbrook
Russell and deng for Westbrook
Three team trade around love for Westbrook to cavs and love to Boston.
Best offers for one year rental no team going to give up more for Westbrook.
20 Jul 2016 06:07:27
Meaning none those trades work and Westbrook stay. No Team going to give up much more witout extension which I believe Westbrook wouldn't sign. He wouldn't want team to find up major assets to get him then not be real contenders to keep him.
20 Jul 2016 07:12:02
I agree unless OKC totally sucks and they are out of the playoff race at the deadline. If they are losing and know that Westbrook is unhappy they most likely will try and trade him for at least something. Hope it's to the Cavs because I am a Cavs fan but Boston seems most likely with major contenders as possibilities. Don't count out the Spurs.
20 Jul 2016 08:03:54
It will be fun if the thunder help the spurs this year by sending westbrook to them and challenge durant and the warriors.
20 Jul 2016 10:00:41
It wil be fun indeed if Westbrook signs wit the Spurs :-)
I think the Russell for Westbrook trade is realistic.
LA rather have stars and OKC is a good place for Russell to develop
Only Boston has the assets and is going to be prepared to pay more for Westbrook.
20 Jul 2016 03:17:34
OKC rebuilding plan if Russ is going out
OKC/ BOS/ SAC
OKC get Brown, Bradley, Gay, BKN 1st 2017 swap and 1st round pick from SAC
Trade Oladipo and 1st round pick for Randle and Clarkson
Pg Clarkson/ Payne
Sg Bradley/ Waiters
Sf Gay/ Brown
Pf Randle/ Sabonis
Ce Adams/ Kanter
BOS get Westbrook and Roberson
SAC get Isaiah Thomas back and Singler
20 Jul 2016 04:31:34
Makes no sense to trade Oladipo.
20 Jul 2016 04:38:05
That's three starters and third pick in 2016 and and top three in 2017 for a one year contract. I rather trade brown, Bradley, and nets pick for butler.
19 Jul 2016 20:14:09
OKC gets: Johnson, Smart, Rozier and Young, plus Brooklyn’s 2018 first-round pick and Memphis’ 2019 first-round pick,
Boston gets: Westbrook
Saw this online, what do you think?
19 Jul 2016 21:23:48
Switch Hunter for Rozier and you have your self a deal!
20 Jul 2016 00:16:58
Not enough for westbrook.