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11 Aug 2020 09:48:57
CLE having interest in Ben Simmons? I have an idea of how can we get him.

To Cavs: B.Simmons

To 76ers: D.Garland + J.Holiday + + L.Nance Jr + D.Exum + Pelicans 2022 lottery protected 1st

To Pelicans: 2nd pick + A.Horford

Dont kill me, this is just an idea as a Cavaliers fan. I would want an all-star on my team. I think Sixers is getting a great return here and they are dumping Horford. Pelicans could be willing to replace Jrue's leadership with Horfor and they are getting a very high pick.

Cavaliers line up
-resign Delly (Australian mate of Simmons)

PG Simmons-Dellavedova
SG Sexton-Windler-Wade
SF Porter-McKinnie
PF Love-Osman
CE Drummond-Zizic

76ers line up

PG Holiday-Milton-Exum
SG Garland-Korkmaz
SF Richardson-Thybulle
PF Harris-Nance Jr-Scott
CE Embiid-Pelle-Oturu (pick)

Pelicans line up
- select Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball if Edwards is not available

PG Lonzo-Alexander
SG Edwards or Lamelo-Redick-Hart
SF Ingram-Miller
PF Williamson-Melli
CE Horford-Hayes

Kabalyero

1.) 11 Aug 2020 12:52:34
The Pelicans would turn that down.


2.) 11 Aug 2020 13:43:54
Make the 2021 theL. A. pick then maybe, But Wiseman might be the better play if Edwards isn't available.


3.) 11 Aug 2020 13:58:24
J. Holiday + a future first = Horford? Are you freakin' mad?


4.) 12 Aug 2020 00:44:34
Freddy what are you saying? It's Jrue + future 1st for Horford + 2nd pick.


5.) 12 Aug 2020 02:03:36
Psiphon. Horford's contract is 2 firsts to dump for expiring contracts because of the 3 remaining years. Holiday is worth probably a first and a young player by himself. Add those together and its Horford + 3 firsts + young player (lets say a 2nd) for Holiday. This offer is short 2 firsts from Philly.


6.) 12 Aug 2020 07:15:25
it is very very bad for pelicans.


 

 

14 Jul 2020 06:58:06
I have a proposal for my Cavaliers

To Cavs: Marvin Bagley (SAC), Harrison Barnes (SAC), 5th pick (DET)

G Sexton
G Porter
F Barnes
F Bagley
C Drummond

To Kings: 2nd overall pick (CLE), Kevin Love, Luke Kennard (DET)

G Fox
G Hield
F Kennard
F Love
C Wiseman

To Pistons: Darius Garland (CLE), 12th pick (SAC)

G Garland
G Brown-Vassell
F Doumboya
F Griffin
C Wood

Kabalyero

1.) 14 Jul 2020 08:29:46
Horrible for Detroit.


2.) 14 Jul 2020 12:30:08
Someone is overvaluing Love and Garland. For example Kennard + 5th pick >>> Garland + 12th pick.


3.) 14 Jul 2020 16:34:48
this good for Detroit they can build around Garland who better then any player Detroit at pick 5 who has the higher ceiling.


4.) 14 Jul 2020 16:36:35
As a Cavs fan I pass on bagley.


5.) 14 Jul 2020 19:43:28
Clear winner is SAC. Love is the best player in the deal. DET comes out better as Garland is 2nd or 3rd best player. CLE is less certain. Depends on how you value Bagley. If they want to move Love, this deal is not a bad return.


6.) 14 Jul 2020 21:15:18
If you are saying that Love is the best player in any deal, then it is not much of a deal.


 

 

25 Jun 2020 01:29:20
Hi huys, newbie here. I'm a Cavaliers fan trying to give my proposed moves for them

K.Love+ A.Drummond pairing seems really good but i think if we get #2 or #3 in the draft, Toppin would be the best choice (he's a PF). Guards are set with Garland and Sexton and Porter. Very young and talented. So i will try to set a trade for Kevin Love and get a starting caliber wing (SF)

To Cavs: Oubre (PHX) + F.Kaminsky + Chiek Diallo

To Suns: K.Love + swap rights in '21 draft + 2 2nd round picks

K.Oubre is young athletic wing that will be perfect for the Cavs need. Kevin Love meanwhile gives Phoenix a veteran PF who can stretch the floor for them. The '21 draft is said to be deep so a bigger chance for Phoenix to get higher pick maybe.

Cavs release F.Kaminsky

We give Yogi Ferrell the MLE

Cavaliers line up

SG- C.Sexton-Y.Ferrell
SG- D.Garland-K.Porter-D.Windler
SF- K.Oubre-C.Osman-A.McKinnie
PF- O.Toppin-L.Nance Jr
CE- A.Drummond-C.Diallo-A.Zizic

Not expecting much from this team but this is a young squad that has potential. If Kevin Porter develops into a rising star, we can deal one of Garland or Sexton for pick. Drummond sticks around and probably hang on to him to get the rebounds for these guys. Then try to offer him not that expensive extension i think most teams will not give him much.

First post. What do i need to improve?

Kabalyero

1.) 25 Jun 2020 12:02:51
Not bad for a first post.

Only issue that I see is the roughly $10 mil difference in salary. Since Phoenix does not currently have the cap space, this must be a 20-21 year trade which means picking up the team option on Kaminsky. Waiving him afterwards does not save Cleveland from the $5 mil salary. Also, you are assuming that Phoenix will still have the $10 mil cap space in 20-21. Pretty sure the salary cap next year will be dropped significantly because of all the lost revenue from this year.


2.) 25 Jun 2020 12:17:51
I just don’t see why Phoenix does this. Love doesn’t fit their timeline. Better off trying to get wiggins from GSW.


3.) 25 Jun 2020 14:56:42
Don't listen to them kabalyero, you maybe a newbie, but fredman is the 1 who's wrong. Trade works bc suns payroll is 85 mil next year. As far not fitting Love's timeline, he goes into playing a better winning situation with suns vs Cavs. warriors is bad unless your talking about Green. Older Green can't defend SFs regularly and love can't defend centers. Loves best trading partner brooklyn Love Garland for Prince Dinwiddie.


4.) 25 Jun 2020 16:16:43
Phoenix is at 85 mil only if Kaminisky and Diallo's team options are not picked up for next year. Which is fine take them out of the trade. Love makes $17 mil more than Oubre. $85 + $17 = $102. Now I could just stop there as I believe next years cap will drop below that considering the NBA has lost about $5 mil per team salary cap just on lost revenue on China (let alone the virus revenue losses) .

Is Phoenix drafting a player at #10? Cam Reddish made $4+ last year so there is probably another $3 mil in guarenteed salary for next year. Also add $2 mil roster cap hold for empty roster spots. Phoenix will be at $107 mil. Seriously doubt next years salary cap will revised to that level.


5.) 25 Jun 2020 16:54:50
Fredman no hard cap. You sign your drafted picks after trade. 102 is still under cap, no changes as far lowering the cap has happen yet. Just admit your wrong. No biggy for you.


6.) 25 Jun 2020 17:46:35
If you are under the cap, a cap hold for the drafted player projected salary is placed after the pick has been made. If you are over the cap, then there us no cap hold (because it serves no purpose obviously) .

This is one of the reasons teams trade out of the first round. They would rather have the cap space and 2nd rounders are not guarenteed, thus no cap hold while unsigned.

As for changes to the cap, NBA head offices have to see what this years final total revenue is in order to determine next years cap. Since the season is not over, they can not compute the new salary cap level (which is one of the motivations to complete the season for the additional revenue so next years cap will be lowered less) .

There is more than just a ring riding on this season being finished.


7.) 25 Jun 2020 22:31:37
Thank you for your insights. I have this idea of sending Ricky Rubio to Detroit and Suns get Rose back.

What do you think, will something like this work better?

To Cavs: K. Oubre + C. Diallo + T. Snell (waive)

To Suns: K. Love + D. Rose + swap rights with Cavs '21 1st + 2nd round picks from Cavs

To Pistons: R. Rubio + 2nd round pick Cavs

I think Pistons would want more but i think Rubio fits their point guard need. Just my thought. Does salaries work better?


8.) 26 Jun 2020 04:04:16
Fredman you my friend just mixed up NFL and NBA.


 

 

 

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15 Jul 2020 00:32:57
Not enough for Lillard.

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25 Jun 2020 22:31:37
Thank you for your insights. I have this idea of sending Ricky Rubio to Detroit and Suns get Rose back.

What do you think, will something like this work better?

To Cavs: K. Oubre + C. Diallo + T. Snell (waive)

To Suns: K. Love + D. Rose + swap rights with Cavs '21 1st + 2nd round picks from Cavs

To Pistons: R. Rubio + 2nd round pick Cavs

I think Pistons would want more but i think Rubio fits their point guard need. Just my thought. Does salaries work better?

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25 Jun 2020 22:25:46
Oh i don't like moving Kevin Porter. He has the potential to be our long term starting SG.

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