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19 Sep 2020 12:07:31
What kind of trade will you believe in here?

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18 Sep 2020 16:39:31
Houston dosent need to blow it up just need the right players around Harden.

They should look to bring in garland and love and draft pick for westbrook.

Then cavs turn around and trade westbrook for young assets and draft picks.

Sexton and westbrook with Drummond would be a solid team but they can trade westbrook to the clippers. For Paul G and Williams.



Clippers would be a much better team with kawhi and westbrook. Paul would have a solid team around him with Drummond and sexton.

Houston would have a solid team of Love Covington harden and Garland.

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18 Sep 2020 19:17:16
Westbrook has no value.

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18 Sep 2020 19:46:50
I don’t understand how Westbrook is a better fit with Leonard than George. Westbrook has proven he can’t be a second fiddle. His game just doesn’t allow it. He’s also proven to not be good enough to be a #1 option. That’s why no one wants him.

I think a deal around Westbrook and Love isn’t terrible. Love would be a great fit beside Harden when healthy. And if Cleveland panicked and wanted to make the playoffs, this would get them there most likely.

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19 Sep 2020 00:39:25
Westbrook a better fit because Leonard or George can’t play pf or sg. So there missing a shooting guard George can’t keep up. They can’t make plays for the team. But Westbrook for George ain’t enough and housing don’t have any pick out young players to give la so you will have to trade Leonard for harden.

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19 Sep 2020 12:12:37
Why can’t George or Kawhi play the 2 and the 3. They both shoot, handle, pass and can guard all 3 positions. I’d argue that you can play them both at the 1 and the 5 in some lineups.

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18 Sep 2020 06:52:17
Is it only me or does anyone thinks that there are too many egos on the Clippers team that's why chemistry was an issue? I mean, most of their players are starting caliber for other teams, is the supporting cast not right?

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18 Sep 2020 14:11:33
It's just a weird year.

the clippers weren't healty during the year to get the chemistry. And there was no home advantage. Paul and Leonard are both still in their prime and they will be good the next years.

The most important decision for the clippers is do they resign Harrell or not.

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18 Sep 2020 14:45:25
I don’t think they have a real emotional leader on the court. Leonard and George are both pretty quiet guys it seems. Beverly and Morris are just selfish d bags.

If they had a great leader (Lebron, Lowry, Lillard), I think they’d be considerably better. And I’m not even talking about those 3 in terms of anything on the court. If George or even Harrell had the personality of Lowry, I think the Clippers win that series and maybe win it all.

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17 Sep 2020 13:21:54
Season overachievers:

Miami (When Butler came, they are a playoff team but not to the extent that they will reach the ECF and a great chance of going to finals, amazing)

OKC (who would have thought that after losing 2 stars, they will take the Rockets into a very close game 7, not mentioning that analysts game them 1.5% chance of reaching the playoffs

Boston (yes, they are strong on paper but i only expected them to last until the 2nd round but here they are, just like Miami)

Honorable Mention: Raptors (they lost Kawhi and still manage to pull a fight for the championship they are defending, just fell short)

For lottery teams i think Memphis


Underachievers:

Bucks (i expected a finals loss at least)

Clippers (i thought the west finals is the least they will go with how they built that team)

Sixers (partially because of how bad the team is built that they didn't notice when the season started but most thought how they are good on paper)

Honorable Mention: Rockets (Warriors are their nemesis and i thought without the Warriors they'll be on top along with LA teams but the fact that they ruined their team and embrace the small ball approach turned into a horrible nightmare once again)

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17 Sep 2020 20:07:52
I would put Nuggets as honorable mention for overachievers as well. They’re a great team but I’m pretty sure no one had them in the WCF (kindve like your description for the Celtics and Heat)

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18 Sep 2020 06:47:59
I think Nuggets are expected to be this strong just overshadowed by LA teams in the conversation.

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18 Sep 2020 14:29:11
They’re just as strong as Boston imo.

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17 Sep 2020 13:05:56
CP3 is an all NBA 2nd team. If it wasn't because of his enormous contract he probably is one of the best trade targets for contending team.

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17 Sep 2020 14:04:29
The problem is he’s still 35. Best case scenario you get one more good year out of him. Contenders would love to have him, but no one is giving up multiple firsts and/ or good youth for him.

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17 Sep 2020 09:49:23
a few months ago i asked or the clippers better did a S&T involving Gallinari and picks for Butler over George. Nobody prefered a Butler trade over the PG13 trade. Do you guys change your mind after this playoff debacle for the Clippers or do you still think the P-George trade is the best one on the long term?

Keeping SGA would solve their pointguard problem and Butler plays with much more grinta than failing P(layoff) George.



C:Harrell/Zubac
PF:Morris/ J Green
SF:Leonard/Shamet
SG:Butler/ L williams
PG:SGA/ Beverly

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17 Sep 2020 11:22:39
Butler obviously over PG. give me the guy that gets better in the post season anyday.

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17 Sep 2020 12:00:32
Ok talent wise, George is great but Jimmy's heart and determination gives him the edge over Paul. Butler's leadership is phemomenal and he's proving it every year.

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17 Sep 2020 14:47:25
The problem is

1. Butler didn’t want to go there.
2. Kawhi wanted to play with George.

If they could have gotten butler for Gallo and 2 firsts and Kawhi still signs? Sure. But that also doesn’t factor in the fact that no one knew SGA was taking the leap from ok rookie to borderline all star.

And it’s not like before this year that Butler was some absolute monster in the playoffs in his career. He had lost in the first round 2 of the last 3 years, his PER had gone down from the regular season to the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years, and the one time he made it out of the first round, he took a borderline super team to a second round exit.

Just, so much revisionist history and 20/ 20 vision.

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17 Sep 2020 04:42:32
I think we can all agree that PG was awful in the playoffs and is likely to regress at least a bit next year. That being said, it’s extremely unlikely the clippers trade him given that 1. They just traded for him and 2. He might be among their best options because they don’t want kawhi to be mad. The point of me saying this Is there are far too many pg trades where the clippers get far less than what they traded for him. Not to mention it’s pretty obvious to me that a team who just traded most of their picks wouldn’t want picks back.

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17 Sep 2020 08:31:30
The Clippers have no other optan than keeping Bigg- P Playoff-George.
Leonard would be gone, if they trade him.

It was a weard year, the clippers should try to keep this core together and give it another run.

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17 Sep 2020 12:02:45
Beverley should be gone he is a cancer trying to be like Draymond Green but the talent doesn't match the arrogance.

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17 Sep 2020 14:07:58
Why would we assume he will regress? He’s 30 and likely healthy. He should be better next year because he was hurt going into 2019 and missed camp and the start of the season.

But yeah, there’s no chance they trade him. They were still a few minutes away from beating the Nuggets in 5 and going to the WCF.

And people act like losing to Denver is the world thing in the world. That team is really good.

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16 Sep 2020 21:54:32
People on this site really think PG is equal value to Westbrook and Conley🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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16 Sep 2020 22:19:45
It’s ridiculous. The short sighted views are crazy.

Then again, there are people out there that think Kawhi’s legacy is ruined because they lost too.

I don’t get it.

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16 Sep 2020 23:09:50
This is funny because i tried to post Oladipo and Turner for Paul george and everybody smashed me and said that Kawhi will not be happy with that because he wanted PG. And then i saw a trade of Westbrook for PG and half agreed.

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16 Sep 2020 23:11:37
I don’t see it at all.

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17 Sep 2020 01:56:26
Have you ever heard of someone’s value going down? Like do you think if the clippers offered PG to the thunder for 5 first SGA and Gallo now they’d take it? No they’d laugh right in their faces. The dude shoots 35% in the playoffs over several games and is a “star”. He’s worth like Conley and a first. He’s not even getting any hate it’s all on Kawhi because people expect nothing out of him in the playoffs at this point. People really live in the regular season on this site. Value comes from potential and playoffs, which PG has neither. You know what you get at this point. Defense and a choke artist in the playoffs.

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17 Sep 2020 05:35:31
You’re completely clueless if PG is worth Conely smh.

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17 Sep 2020 05:42:48
PG averaged over 20 on 43% and 38%3pt in Denver series.

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17 Sep 2020 06:31:14
Tell me Sam Presti didn't absolutely fleece the clippers and why PG is worth more go ahead I’m waiting. Or keep living in 16 before he wasn’t hitting the side of the backboard and averaging less than 35% in close out games.

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17 Sep 2020 08:47:43
Agree Miller i don't get why people think that Kawhi's legacy is ruined. Kawhi just had an off night on a very bad timing. It can happen to anyone even for "superstars" and people should start recognizing the Nuggets, they played better and they should be credited too. People just focus on how bad the Clips and their stars played just because of the thing called "expectation"

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17 Sep 2020 14:14:00
If you aren’t factoring in Kawhi to the trade than you’re not looking at the entire picture. And if you’d rather have the OKC package than Kawhi and George, then you’re a fool.

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17 Sep 2020 17:05:10
Sheee if yoh were the GM and traded PG for Conley you’d be fired immediately and be the worst gm in the league.

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17 Sep 2020 17:33:50
George was third in MVP voting and first team all NBA a year ago. You’re acting like he’s Melo level washed up.

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17 Sep 2020 18:23:29
I’m glad you think posting on here qualifies you to be a gm lol. I never said he was washed up. I’m sure he’ll be great in the regular season next year. Three playoff teams he’s been on he’s come up short, this year in one of the biggest choke jobs in nba history. Obviously If you include Kawhi and PG the package is not better, but the package was for PG and Presti got more than PG’s value because Kawhi wanted him and Presti knew it. If you think that’s his current value or even his value then you’re clueless.

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17 Sep 2020 19:20:09
But that’s the point. If they don’t trade for George, they don’t get Leonard. So the trade was essentially for both.

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17 Sep 2020 19:40:05
PG was great in the Playoffs with the Pacers, he made 2 ECF and lost to the Heats big 3 which is very understandable. He was the best player on the Thunder, they weren’t going to go far anyways especially with Westbrook. He did play terrible against Dallas but he shot well outside that last game against Denver.

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17 Sep 2020 20:25:26
I understand the concept of the trade being for both. That is not the argument. The argument is that if he was traded now the value would be much much lower. Sure I probably left out a first round pick or two but that was just to stop the over exaggeration that he is still worth that package. NBA16 sounds like a bunch of excuses for not winning. He was good on the pacers got hurt a few times, talked a bunch of crap to a bunch of people, and know has to take all the criticism that comes at him for not delivering. For his sake I hope he doesn’t get traded from the clips because if he does it will be a huge spiral downward to be shipped from teams that much that quickly, just will show no one believes in him. He can obviously prove the haters wrong but until he does so in the playoffs it means 0. I was in the same argument about giannis whose excuse is that he’s young. PG isn’t.

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17 Sep 2020 20:32:36
If you want to talk about a guy like he’s a top player in the nba then he should get the same criticism that the top players in the nba get. You can’t have it both ways where he just gets pass after pass. Obviously he’s not Lebron but if Lebron shot like 0-7 in the 4th quarter we’d be talking about it 10 years after the fact. People still talk about the warriors blowing a 3-1 lead. This team was way more talented, experienced, and deep than the Nuggets and needed their stars to step up and they choked and no one is even talking about PG because it’s expected he comes up short year after year. In my opinion Kawhi deserves criticism but I am not expecting a repeat performance out of him since he’s shown up in the past.

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17 Sep 2020 21:21:39
Lbj can take less.

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17 Sep 2020 21:22:51
He is getting criticism lmao but any other top 10/ 15 had the same playoffs as him no way they be traded for Conley lol.

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17 Sep 2020 21:23:45
Why aren’t you trading Harden for Conley if that’s the case!? Harden is terrible in the playoffs and shots bad %s as well.

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17 Sep 2020 21:51:47
He’ll get the same criticism from me as other major stars. But since I’m not an idiot hot take talking head like Stephen A Smith or Skip Bayless, my criticism is considerably more tempered.

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18 Sep 2020 06:46:16
Sheee you literally do nothing but disagree every time this page refreshes with every comment me and bmiller are saying it’s pretty sad.

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18 Sep 2020 16:55:05
And you’re not doing the same thing to me? Clearly looking through a one sided glass. Last time I checked this was a site to post trades and debate lol. You made a separate post whining about people’s posts for PG trades. If you can’t have a debate without making personal digs maybe you should get some help.

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