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22 Apr 2019 17:06:29
It looks like the Thunder are going to have another 1st round exit, and Westbrook will get most of the blame, however the past 2 1st round exits if they lose this 1 george hasn't been healthy which plays a role in the early exits but still not a great excuse. Westbrook deserves some blame but i think Billy Donovan also deserves a good chunk of the blame. Donovan has been the only other main constant for the Thunder during these early exits. I partially blame him for some of the late season injuries he often overplays his players early in the season so come end of season and playoffs they are injured and tired. He is a good defensive coach but a good bit of their offensive struggles have to do with Donovan he can't coach a good offense. He isn't good at figuring out solid rotations that work and while he hasn't had the best talents for the bench he can't utilize the bench well and their bench always struggles every year. After this early exit if they lose 1 more game to portland it is clear something has to change and the easiest and best change in my opinion to make would be fire Donovan. If they can get a good offer for Westbrook trade him but if not keep him, but wether Russ stays or leaves Donovan has to go.
What are yalls opinions on this.

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22 Apr 2019 17:49:50
The offensive struggles seem to be on Russ and the front office more than Donovan. He has no shooting and a player that just does what he wants when he wants.

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22 Apr 2019 20:00:30
Its the coach's job to get Westbrook to understand when he is being a detriment to his team. got to get someone in there that Russ will listen to. Not exactly sure who that is thou. Need someone on the Pop/ Kerr level.

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22 Apr 2019 20:16:53
The offensive struggles are on russ and front office too but Donovan definitely has a part in it. Donovan doesn't have control of the offense because he let's Russ do what ever. If Donovan had control of Russ he would have a better offense. If they had a coach that would stand up to russ and when he starts playing nothing but iso and missing a bunch of jumpers and doing whatever he wants u sit him on the bench until u get your point across that your the coach and he is going to either play team ball and stop doing whatever he wants whenever he wants or he is going to sit on the bench. Even if that means you lose a couple of games until your point is made. As long as Russ doesn't have someone who will stand up to him their offense isn't going to work. You don't see every superstar ignoring the coach and doing whatever they want there are a couple but the ones that do listen have a coach that will tell them when they are wrong and do something.

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22 Apr 2019 20:22:16
Some players just can't be coached to change who they are. Westbrook seems like one of those guys. He is who he is, good and bad. He's a lot like the PG version of Cousins (in Sacramento) . Swap them, and I think Westbrook never makes the playoffs just like Cousins never did.

Also, I can't see any coach on that level having any interest in going there.

I put it almost all on Westbrook, though maybe some on management as well. Some goes on the fans and media too, for propping him up higher than he should be.

The issue is that the best player on the team is George, but that's not the way management approaches it. And Westbrook wouldn't accept a conversation demoting him to sidekick.

If I'm OKC, I move Westbrook this offseason for the best offer you can get. If that offer is a top 5 pick, then move George too and fully rebuild.

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22 Apr 2019 07:00:27
Any superstar trade suggestions?

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22 Apr 2019 13:38:41
Only 4 true superstars. Lebron falling
Steph
Hatedn and KD.

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22 Apr 2019 17:08:27
Westbrook and Davis

I doubt it would happen pelicans will likely look for young assets not another star, but Davis wants out and Thunder continue to struggle in the playoffs and needs change.

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22 Apr 2019 01:47:42
Wolves give up there pick and Wiggins for Harrison Barnes and giles

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22 Apr 2019 04:06:04
I wouldn't if I was the Kings. Billups better get back in the gym, or put a special team of trainers on Wiggins if he gets hired. GM of the year if Wiggins plays well.

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21 Apr 2019 20:46:12
I don't hate the warriors but seeing Klay as a featured scorer would be cool.

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21 Apr 2019 22:24:44
He took a back seat to Durant, but its Kevin Durant. Thompson could leave, and it wouldn't matter much to the Warriors, if Durant was still there, and they plugged his role with KCP, or Bradley. Thompson for Brown, Hayward sign and trade is interesting too.

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21 Apr 2019 17:02:11
Who could sign the following and what kind of contract?

Cousins
Dwight
Melo
Ross
Jabari
Rondo
Mcgee
Pau
Shumpert
Faried

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21 Apr 2019 18:16:35
Cousins as long as he can get back by mid season I think any playoff caliber team would give him a shot for like 1 year and a team option at the minimum.

I don’t see anyone taking a chance on Dwight and Melo. They’ve both proven to hurt teams more than help them. Plus, both still think of themselves way to highly.

Ross is a realistic target for anyone who needs shooting. I’ll say 2 years 26

Jabari is a hard one to guess, but any young team that is still rebuilding could take a chance. I’ll say 12million with a team option or 10 for 1 year

Rondo will get between the minimum and the mle depending if he wants to play for a good team or if he’s willing to be more of a mentor.

Mcgee is probably 2 years 10 million total by maybe a team like Washington or Portland. He’s probably more of a back up than a starter.

Shumpert will be a 1 year minimum by a good team who needs some 3 and d guys. He might bounce around a little next year as a fringe/ spot rotation guy.

Faried will probably get the minimum with Houston.

I may be a little low on these just given the amount of cap available this summer, but I think going significantly over any over on anyone of those would be a mistake though.

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21 Apr 2019 20:45:29
Ross had a good year. 3 years36 million.

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21 Apr 2019 12:23:45
Let's say the Suns end up with the 1st overall pick and your favorite team ends up at 2, we'll also assume the reports about the Suns liking Morant over Zion are true, what would you be ok with your team giving up to get Zion?

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21 Apr 2019 14:02:04
A young player and a future 1st protected.

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21 Apr 2019 14:04:50
I don't think the Suns would pass on ZW.

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21 Apr 2019 18:19:22
A couple articles have came out the past few days that Phoenix would rather have Morant than Zion. I don’t see what putting a rumor like that would do for Phoenix unless they are trying to make it clear that if they get the first pick they’re willing to trade it.

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22 Apr 2019 04:17:45
Jerry West said ZW is a guy you don't pass on. I tend to agree. If he is uninjured, and gets better, he will be a star for the next 10 years easy. A truly monster deal. Something stupid, that never works out for the guy who gives up the most could happen. Never know.

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21 Apr 2019 08:45:44
Quit saying New York is a major free agent destination. Once a star actually signs there, then u can call them that.

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21 Apr 2019 13:44:47
Why? Lakers got lebron after years of nothing. Knicks have 2 max spots.

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21 Apr 2019 14:08:49
The knicks have beyond a bad reputation, and have more chumming of the waters to do before they are believable as a FA destination. Their penance has not been paid yet. Primarily because Dolan keeps adding dirt to the pile. Every 2 months, or so.

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22 Apr 2019 01:43:45
I think in the right situation any team a free agent destination. Like the cavs got there self together if they didn't I don't believe James would returned. If curry got a max after his rookie contract Durant would never joined. So ny can pitch to Durant that he can recruit second star. and give him the option who to target in trade. So yes I believe ny can start to be a free agent destination because they put there self in right situation. Its y Durant to NY is all over the media because it's right situation for Durant to win on his own team.

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22 Apr 2019 03:47:38
It is a free agent destination, but probably not a MAJOR free agent destination. But then it also depends on your use of MAJOR. Is it a destination for MAJOR free agents versus a MAJOR destination for free agents. I think it is more the latter than the former.

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22 Apr 2019 07:29:35
Any team can be a major free agent destination. Cleveland signing lebron proved it and George resigning in okc.

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22 Apr 2019 14:58:10
ZW being traded is slim, and Durant choosing the Knicks is slim. The rest is hyperbole.

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20 Apr 2019 19:15:00
Just for fun.

Who will get more in a trade?

Doncic or Davis
Embiid or Simmons
Towns or George
Westbrook or Devin Booker
Conley or Lowry
CP3 or Griffin
Tatum or Gobert
Mitchell or Fox

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20 Apr 2019 20:12:41
Doncic - contract is more favorable
Simmons - injury history and contract
George - simply better
Westbrook - he’s a bigger name and triple doubles
Conley - fair or not (it’s not), Lowry is viewed as someone that doesn’t win.
Griffin - younger. It’s close though.
Gobert - it should be him at least. He’s an all nba player and maybe the best defender in the league. Tatum has the tools to be great, but isn’t yet.
Mitchell - team success makes him more valuable.

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21 Apr 2019 00:14:13
Davis
Simmons
PG (close)
Westbrook
Conley
Griffin
Tatum (tie imo)
Mitchell.

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21 Apr 2019 07:10:50
Davis
Simmons
Towns
Booker
Conley
Griffin vs Paul is too close to call (depends on more)
Gobert
Probably Mitchell (fox got game though)

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22 Apr 2019 03:49:31
Totally depends if you are a championship contending team or a rebuilding team.

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18 Apr 2019 06:34:58
Durant hating on king james calling him toxic. He Just don't want players jjoining lebron so he can win easier lol

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18 Apr 2019 13:28:10
Why did Kyrie leave the Cavs again?

Something about getting out of Lebron's shadow when Kyrie hit the shot that brought the title to Clevelqnd.

What KD failed to mention is that the environment around the Warriors appears to be a little toxic as well.

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18 Apr 2019 20:02:04
Irving got jealous is y he left. Really don t know till he say it out his mouth.

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18 Apr 2019 20:21:02
Kyrie isn't called coach-killer by the the league, and the Lakers look to be thinking about Lue. That's quite a bit of evidence.

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18 Apr 2019 20:28:12
It seems like the toxicity of the Warriors is pretty much exclusively due to Durant. I wouldn't expect him to have the self-awareness to recognize that.

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18 Apr 2019 21:17:00
Kyrie resigned with Cavs not expecting lebron to come. He never wanted it. He made it work until he couldnt. He got to a better team and can pick his future.

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19 Apr 2019 22:08:25
Also, Lebron should be toxic at this point. He’s aging, he’s got a massive ego, he’s not one to share the spotlight. He’s someone that a lot of players would have a hard time playing with. When he was by far the best player in the world, you can get over his faults. As he comes back to the pack of the top 10 players, not as much.

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22 Apr 2019 01:45:42
LeBron like look at my stats and percentages you guys just don't make the shots when I pass the ball it's y'all fault. 😂😂😂😂😂.

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18 Apr 2019 03:32:42
If the Kings offer Oubre 4 years/ $60 mil, does Phoenix match?

Matching this offer + salary cap hold for 1st round pick pretty much ties up most of Phoenix's available cap space (assuming Johnson opts in and Ferdette+Spalding are waived)

Phoenix prepared to go over the cap for a team that hasn't been close to the playoffs?

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18 Apr 2019 06:32:03
I like that for kings. What if barnes opts out.

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