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04 Aug 2020 08:53:18
IND/DET
IND get Doumboya & Snell
Pg Brogdon
Sg Dipo
Sf Warren
Pf Doumboya
Ce Sabonis
DET get Turner & 2nd round pick
Pg Rose
Sg Kennard
Sf Okoro
Pf Griffin
Ce Turner
1.) 04 Aug 2020 11:34:34
Detroit have to give first round pick not take second round pick.
2.) 04 Aug 2020 14:03:48
Turner is not getting Indy a young talent AND a lottery pick.
3.) 04 Aug 2020 16:48:43
Turner McDermott Lamb for Griffin.
4.) 04 Aug 2020 16:59:38
I agree with both comments. Indy would want a first included, but it wouldn’t be Detroit’s 2020 first. Maybe a first they acquire by inevitably trading Rose. Or maybe just a lottery protected future first.
5.) 04 Aug 2020 20:45:43
I didn't say this year pick. But turner is too valuable to send without first round pick.
6.) 04 Aug 2020 21:15:09
Delidolu, the problem is that most of the teams that can use Turner are in the bottom half of the league and thus only own Lottery Pick first rounders. There are a couple of exceptions
Knicks send Portis (team option picked up) + Pick #27
Lakers send Green + Pick #29
Houston send Gordon + Pick #24 (not 100% positive Houston would do this) .
Take your pick.
7.) 04 Aug 2020 22:50:25
Boston sends Smart+Kanter+pick#26?
New Orleans send Reddick+pick#16 (assuming New Orleans gets the 8th seed)?
8.) 05 Aug 2020 08:52:38
Boston is trading the heart and soul of their team for Reddick and another pick that they don't need. or want? Please
You are usually pretty good with your criticisms, but this trade proposal is quite ridiculous.
9.) 05 Aug 2020 09:28:40
JoeB clearly you didn’t get the point of Fredman with that.
10.) 05 Aug 2020 12:20:59
JoeB, these are Turner trade possibles. Hello?
11.) 05 Aug 2020 14:01:44
Gotcha, man. My bad lol
Still wouldn't do that.
12.) 05 Aug 2020 14:36:27
they can get warriors pick if they take wiggins. it is a very high pick.
13.) 05 Aug 2020 14:37:40
zeller and hornets picks for turner. I would do that in a heart beat.
03 Aug 2020 13:57:36
IND/NYK
IND get Barrett, Portis & Dal 23 pick
NYK get Oladipo & Leaf
NYK/ORL/PHI
NYK get Horford & Richardson
ORL get Dallas 21 1st, Payton & Mike Scott
PHI get Randle, Ellington, Fournier
Knicks trade up to 3 with MIN
MIN get #6, #25, 2nd round picks, Knox
NYK get #3 Ball
Thibs team
Pg Ball/Ntilikina
Sg Oladipo/Smith Jr
Sf Richardson/Bullock
Pf Gibson/Brazdeikas
Ce Horford/Robinson
1.) 03 Aug 2020 14:28:06
That Minny trade is not even close to enough value. Try something more like #3 for #6 + NY 2021 first (top 4 protected) . Especially considering Minny could be drafting Ball for themselves.
2.) 03 Aug 2020 14:34:22
Why would Minny trade down for almost nothing?
3.) 03 Aug 2020 22:57:02
Relax with jumping on someone's idea of swapping picks until after the lotto.
31 Jul 2020 12:40:45
IND/HOU
IND get James Harden
Pg Brogdon
Sg Harden
Sf Lamb
Pf Warren
Ce Sabonis
HOU get Myles Turner, Victor Oladipo, 4 1st round picks & 2 swaps
Pg Westbrook
Sg Oladipo
Sf Covington
Pf Tucker
Ce Turner
1.) 31 Jul 2020 13:01:56
I like this for Indy
But i don't think Dipo would resign in Houston.
2.) 31 Jul 2020 15:13:53
Havent we seen Oladipo-Westbrook pairing before?
31 Jul 2020 12:26:29
ATL/GS/PHX
ATL get 1st pick via GS, Eric Paschall, Andrew Wiggins, 2022 1st GS
Draft Edwards
Pg Young/Teague
Sg Edwards/Huerter/Bembry
Sf Wiggins/Reddish
Pf Hunter/Paschall/Skal
Ce Capela/Fernando
GS get Kelly Oubre, John Collins & 10th pick PHX
Draft Cole Anthony
Pg Curry/Anthony/Bowman
Sg Thompson/Poole
Sf Oubre/Lee/Tuscano
Pf Green/Smailagic
Ce Collins/Looney/Chriss
PHX get 3rd pick ATL & Dewayne Dedmon
Select Obi Toppin
Pg Rubio/Okobo/Lecque
Sg Booker/Jerome
Sf Bridges/Johnson
Pf Toppin/Saric
Ce Ayton/Dedmon/Kaminsky
1.) 31 Jul 2020 13:44:25
I really like this.
2.) 31 Jul 2020 15:16:35
Why do I think Phoenix is just going to resign Baynes?
3.) 31 Jul 2020 18:07:03
GS-1st pick and Wiggins for Atl- Collins and 3rd pick Forget Phoenix.
30 Jul 2020 02:23:34
Draft day deal
GS/ORL/DAL
GS get Vucevic, Curry & 15th pick ORL
ORL get Wiggins, Powell, Poole, 1st pick, DAL 1st round selection, 2nd round pick GS & DAL
DAL get Gordon
1.) 30 Jul 2020 12:06:53
DAL not igving up enough.
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03 Jul 2020 03:16:19
We're talking about a particular skill, what do you prefer?
Kawhi's defense or Durant's offense
Giannis' athleticism or Curry's shooting
Shaq's strength or Magic's passing
Kyrie's Ball handling or Carter's dunking
1.) 03 Jul 2020 14:03:24
Kawhi
Curry
Magic
Carter
Just my opinion.
2.) 03 Jul 2020 17:30:43
Kawshi
Curry
Shaq
Carter.
3.) 03 Jul 2020 17:50:54
Durant - elite offense players wins championships. If Kawhi was a 14 PER offensive player, he’d be Tony Allen or maybe Draymond Green.
Curry - His shooting created an offense that won 3 rings.
Magic - Shaq’s strength without his BB knowledge and overall skills makes him Steven Adams.
Kyrie - Dunking in a game is pretty overrated.
4.) 04 Jul 2020 10:00:50
Bmiller- you took kawhi a points away saying be be Allen so take kd’s handles away he is Duncan Robinson. Lots of guys score. I take the two way talent.
5.) 04 Jul 2020 12:09:08
But it said “Durant’s offense”, so why are you taking part of his offense away?
The point is to make them one way players. Do you want the full defense guy and strip his offense away? Or the full offense and strip his defense away?
Saying “lots of guys score” totally downplays one of the most talented offensive players in the history of the NBA.
If Durant was a league average defender, you could win a championship with him as your best player (he was an average defender in OKC, and made the Finals) . If you made Kawhi a league average offensive player (PER of 15 is league average), he’d be a third option.
29 Jun 2020 21:58:57
Can Towns play stretch 4 majority of his time on the floor?
Can Utah afford to have Mitchell as their full time point guard?
Any chance the Raptors trade their "franchise player" Kyle Lowry?
Who's 3 young players can pull off a "Miami Big 3" move?
Can Lebron average 20points when he reach 39 yrs?
Can Warriors still be a dynasty?
What teams are a potential dynasty in the making?
Any miracles for New York?
1.) 29 Jun 2020 23:27:51
No
Yes
I’d say that there’s a pretty decent chance
KAT, Russell and Booker maybe, if that counts
It seems possible
It depends what you mean by dynasty. They could get another title. I think getting 3 would take some small miracles.
Pelicans, Dallas, Boston, Denver off the top of my head
They move to Seattle.
2.) 30 Jun 2020 03:48:01
Giannis and Oladipo join Jimmy Butler in Miami?
3.) 30 Jun 2020 13:34:18
No
Yes
Depends on offer
Giannis/ Siakam/ VanVleet
Possible
For one-three more years
Dallas Miami
Not a chance.
4.) 01 Jul 2020 15:13:59
No, he can barely defend 5’s. Defending PFs would be a disaster.
Yes, but they’d need a really good ball handling SG or SF. But i think it’s the best course for them.
Yes, very high chance. They’re not a team that is afraid to shake things up.
Giannis and others seems like the option here. Maybe him and one of Beal or Oladipo join another team.
I won’t bet against Lebron, Tom Brady, or Tim Duncan.
Absolutely. They have 3 current incredibly unselfish all stars in their primes, a top 5 pick, and a lottery pick next year most likely. I’d take their future over just about anyone.
Bucks, Pels, Mavs are probably the most likely. Maybe Miami. Oh, and Boston.
Never say never. But no.
24 Jun 2020 11:48:33
Ok let's go to NBA talk. Who's your closest comparison for these stars?
Anthony Davis
Zion Williamson
Luka Doncic
Blake Griffin
Joel Embiid
Derrick Rose
Damian Lillard
Nikola Jokic
Donovan Mitchell
Jayson Tatum
1.) 24 Jun 2020 12:29:58
Davis= Garnett/ T Duncan
Zion= Barkley/ L Johnson
B Griffin= B Walton/ S Bowie :-) or K Malone/ D Wilkins
Embiid: Olajuwon/ K Abdul Jabbar
D Rose= Westbrook/ Iverson
Lillard= S Curry/ S Nash
Jokic= P Gasol/ A Sabonis/ V Divac
D Mitchell= D Wade/ P Maravic
Tatum= S Pippen/ R Jefferson.
2.) 24 Jun 2020 13:52:09
Davis=Duncan
Zion=Grandma Johnson
Doncic=Taller Steve Nash
Griffin=S. Kemp
Embiid=Olajuwon (more mobile Robert Parrish? )
Rose=I. Thomas (Detroit)
Lillard=Tim Hardaway
Jokic=V. Divac
Mitchell=Mitch Richmond (? )
Tatum=I keep wanting to say Chris Webber but its not quite right.
3.) 24 Jun 2020 13:53:27
Change#1
Tatum=G. Hill.
4.) 24 Jun 2020 15:29:32
Anthony Davis - Garnett
Zion Williamson - Johnson/ Josh Smith
Luka Doncic - Taller mix of Nash/ Kidd
Blake Griffin - Kemp
Joel Embiid - Olajuwon
Derrick Rose - Westbrook/ Thomas
Damian Lillard - Nash/ Iverson
Nikola Jokic - A Sabonis
Donovan Mitchell - Dwade/ Drexler
Jayson Tatum - Melo/ Grant Hill.
5.) 24 Jun 2020 17:25:18
The Zion - Josh Smith comparison isn’t something I had thought of, but it makes sense. Very similar game and physical tools.
Jokic makes me sad that Sabonis didn’t get to the NBA before he was physically broken. They’re very similar. The two best passing bigs I’ve ever seen.
Tatum reminds me a lot of Drexler. It’s the movement style. The “glide” smoothness.
Doncic is very similar to Kidd to me.
6.) 25 Jun 2020 16:16:49
Who would you compare Siakam to?
7.) 25 Jun 2020 17:57:12
A young Shawn Marion with a better shot?
Aminu with infinitely better ball handling ability?
8.) 25 Jun 2020 19:48:15
To me, this is where a T-Wolves Kevin Garnett comparision kicks in.
9.) 25 Jun 2020 22:39:17
Anthony Davis - Kevin Garnett
Zion Williamson - Josh Smith
Luka Doncic - bigger Steve Nash / Manu Ginobili
Blake Griffin - Amare Stoudemire / S. Kemp
Joel Embiid - Hakeem Olajuwon
Derrick Rose - Allen Iverson
Damian Lillard - Deron Williams / Gilbert Arenas?
Nikola Jokic - Marc Gasol
Donovan Mitchell - Dwayne Wade
Jayson Tatum - Paul George / Clyde Drexler
Pascal Siakam - Lamar Odom?
10.) 28 Jun 2020 20:47:55
Zion seems more like stoudemire or mcdyce.
21 May 2020 22:11:43
Did you guys see Espn's all time starters for each team?
For the Lakers they have
Magic
West
Kobe
Kareem
Shaq
They didn't include Lebron James for the reason he's not with the Lakers for that long. That's fine but for the Clippers they have
Paul
Kawhi
Griffin
Brand
McAdoo
then Raptors also have Kawhi in their team.
Then Kawhi is not included in the Spurs line up.
I'm a Kawhi Leonard fan and i think he has the potential to be in the all time starting 5 of every team he's played with. I'm just a little confused about the basis if their listings. Ok, i apologize for this non sense lol.
15 May 2020 15:00:40
Who has higher value?
Horford or Wiggins
Beal or Booker
Jrue Holiday or Lavine
McCollum or Oladipo
Hield or A.Gordon
Derozan or Aldridge
1.) 15 May 2020 16:42:13
Wiggins due to age alone.
Beal
Holiday by a lot.
McCollum? If I knew Oladipo was 100%, easily him. If they finish the season and he’s back to his all star play, sure. But after 13 games, it’s too much risk.
Same. I’ve seen ideas of a direct swap, which might make sense.
Aldridge.
2.) 15 May 2020 18:34:26
Wiggins, probably. I could see some teams thinking that Horford was just put in a bad position and dinged up though.
Beal probably. I could see Booker’s extra years of control evening it up though.
Holiday by a nose.
Oladipo by a fairly wide margin. McCollum’s offensive efficiency just hasn’t been rising like the rest of the league. The last time VO was healthy, he was an all nba guy and he was starting to get back there before the shut down.
I’d say it’s about equal. Both are high level role players that fit well in the modern game and could fill holes on elite teams.
Derozan because of age. They’re both basically just guys that can get you buckets at this point. It depends what you need on who you would prefer, but Derozan has more tread left on the tires.
3.) 16 May 2020 12:22:16
Wiggins
Beal
Holiday (not close)
Oladipo if i had to choose, about even tho.
Hield by a tiny bit.
Derozan.
4.) 16 May 2020 18:09:20
Wiggins but I wouldn’t want to take on either contract.
Beal. Beal is currently much better but Booker can get there soon. Neither player can single handedly carry team to wins though.
Holiday. Lavine probably has higher ceiling but might never reach holiday’s level of play.
Oladipo. Similar ages and Mccollum is a better shooter and obviously is less of an injury risk. But, Oladipo gets the edge for me because of how well he carried his team as the number one option in 2018-19
Aaron Gordon by a bit. Definitely has areas where he needs to improve but he is 3 years younger and is still arguably getting better.
DeMar DeRozan. He has a better all around game and still has time left to be good especially on the right team. Aldridge may be slightly better but he requires a high usage percentage and is well past his prime.
05 Aug 2020 09:28:40
JoeB clearly you didn’t get the point of Fredman with that.
04 Aug 2020 08:54:31
So after showing off for the previous restart games, Pacers trading Warren? What?
29 Jul 2020 11:47:11
RIP Portland’s backcourt defense after that.
29 Jul 2020 11:44:16
Why would sactown do that.
28 Jul 2020 21:10:12
Is that really the concern? Then move him to center and Robinson backs him up. Can start Gibson at PF (thibs guy)
ATL can actually beat that team in some games
I'll put Vucevic higher, maybe around number 9
I'd say Markieff to at least top 15
Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Lillard, Irving, Lowry, Rose, Conley, Lawson, Bledsoe, Kemba, Teague, Parker, Rondo, Holiday, Rubio, Jennings, Knight, Williams, Mcw, Collison, Hill, Beverley, Burke, Lin, Calderon, Chalmers, Smart, Payton
Jimmy Butler all over Klay Thompson, Anthony Davis all over Curry as long as Pelicans could make playoffs (doubt)