NBA rumours 2

24 Sep 2023 12:05:57
PHX/POR/TOR/CHA

PHX get Nurkic, Rozier & 1st from TOR
- get a vet center & a facilitator to lead the bench

Pg Beal/Rozier
Sg Booker/Gordon/Wainwright
Sf Okogie/Lee/Bates-Diop
Pf Durant/Watanabe/Metu
Ce Nurkic/Eubanks/Bol

POR get Ayton, Barnes, Boucher & 2 1sts TOR
- get 2 young quality players to kick off the rebuild

Pg Henderson/Simons
Sg Sharpe/Johnson
Sf Barnes/Thybulle
Pf Grant/Little/Murray
Ce Ayton/Boucher

TOR get Lillard
- get a superstar and compete

Pg Lillard/Schroder/Flynn
Sg Anunoby/Dick/Temple
Sf McDaniels/Porter
Pf Siakam/Young
Ce Poeltl/Achiuwa/Koloko

CHA get Trent Jr & 2nd from PHX
- gets a more natural SG who can also defend. Saves money

Pg Ball/Maledon/Ntilikina
Sg Trent Jr/Bouknight
Sf Miller/Hayward/Martin
Pf Bridges/Washington
Ce Williams/Jones/Richards

22 Sep 2023 18:50:41
Cleveland gets: Tim Hardaway Jr. & Jaden Hardy
Dallas gets: Isaac Okoro, Ricky Rubio, Dean Wade & 2 2nds ('25 & '26)

Why?
Cleveland upgrades their bench.
Dallas gets salary relief next year & a cheap big who can stretch the floor.

24 Sep 2023 23:00:14
Not enough for Hardaway + Hardy.

22 Sep 2023 02:46:00
PHX/POR/BKN/MIA

PHX get Jusuf Nurkic, DFS & Keon Johnson
-get 2 role players who can compliment their stars better

Pg Beal/Gordon
Sg Booker/Lee
Sf Durant/Okogie/Johnson
Pf DFS/Watanabe
Ce Nurkic/Eubanks/Bol

POR get Deandre Ayton, Kyle Lowry (buyout), Cam Thomas, Jaime Jacquez, Orlando Robinson, 2 1sts from MIA, 2 swaps from MIA, 1st from BKN
- get a young big and assets

Pg Henderson/Simons
Sg Sharpe/Thomas
Sf Thybulle/Jacquez/Little
Pf Grant/Murray
Ce Ayton/Badji/Robinson

BKN get Tyler Herro & Nikola Jovic
- adds offensive firepower

Pg Dinwiddie/Smith
Sg Herro/Walker
Sf Bridges/Jovic/Whitehead
Pf Johnson/Simmons/Clowney
Ce Claxton/Sharpe/Giles

MIA get Damian Lillard & Royce Oneale

Pg Lillard/Richardson
Sg Butler/Robinson
Sf Martin/Highsmith
Pf Oneale/Love
Ce Adebayo/Bryant

22 Sep 2023 00:01:06
Charlotte - Portland - Toronto

Charlotte get Gary Trent Jr & Chris Boucher
- gets some backcourt scoring help and replacement depth at bigs

Ball-Ntilikina
Rozier-Trent Jr-Bouknight
Miller-Martin
Washington-Bridges-Boucher
Williams-Richards

Portland get Gordon Hayward (buyout), Kai Jones, Scottie Barnes, 2 1sts from Toronto, 2 pick swap from Toronto, 2nd round pick Charlotte
- gets 2 rebuilding pieces and future assets

Henderson-Simons
Sharpe-Johnson
Barnes-Thybulle
Grant-Little-Murray
Jones-Badji- (Nurkic- trade)

Toronto get Damian Lillard
-gets a star to compete

Lillard-Schroder
Anunoby-Dick-Flynn
McDaniels-Porter-Temple
Siakam-Young
Poeltl-Koloko-Achiuwa

21 Sep 2023 23:20:34
Philly-Indy-LAC

Philly get Buddy Hield, Paul George & Robert Covington

Maxey
Hield
George
Tucker
Embiid

Indy get Tobias Harris & 1st round pick Clippers

Haliburton
Mathurin
Brown
Harris
Turner

LAC get James Harden, Daniel Theis & 2 2nds from Indy

Westbrook
Harden
Leonard
Morris
Zubac

21 Sep 2023 07:21:24
IND/BKN/BOS/CLE eastern shake up

IND get Isaac Okoro, Dean Wade & pick swap from CLE, 2 2nds (CLE/BOS)
- pick swap from CLE could be changed to a 1st round pick if IND prefers, that's negotiable. Someone could give a 1st for Hield. Pacers add a young guy they can develop

Pg Haliburton/McConnell
Sg Brown/Nembhard
Sf Mathurin/Okoro/Nwora
Pf Toppin/Walker/Jackson
Ce Turner/Theis/Wade

BKN get Malcolm Brogdon & BOS 2nd round pick
- Nets have a good wing depth already, they can use a backup vet guard

Pg Dinwiddie/Brogdon/Smith Jr
Sg Bridges/Walker/Whitehead
Sf Oneale/Thomas/Bazley
Pf Johnson/Simmons
Ce Claxton/Giles/Clowney

BOS get Buddy Hield & Dayron Sharpe
- gets a shooter to add more firepower

Pg White/Pritchard
Sg Brown/Hield/Banton
Sf Tatum/Hauser/Mykhailuk
Pf Porzingis/Brissett/Kornet
Ce Williams/Horford/Sharpe

CLE get Dorean Finney-Smith
- gets a starting caliber SF, a piece ready to compete with the team. Adds line up flexibility as they can have Mobley play the 5 and DFS at 4

Pg Garland/Levert/Rubio
Sg Mitchell/Strus/Bates
Sf DFS/Merill/Jerome
Pf Mobley/Niang
Ce Allen/Mobley/Jones

21 Sep 2023 19:06:47
For Boston, I'm not a fan of Hield, but I also don't like Brogdon on Boston. Hield's durability, expiring contract, and the young big makes it a yes for me.

21 Sep 2023 22:32:30
Cleveland making out like bandits here.

21 Sep 2023 22:39:18
Absolute yes from Cleveland.

21 Sep 2023 05:27:45
Magic/Pacers/Grizzlies

Magic get Buddy Hield

Pacers get Gary Harris 2024 1st round pick.via Magic (lottery protected) 2026 2nd round pick.via Clippers from Grizzlies

Grizzlies get Chuma Okeke (Dillion Brooke TPE)

21 Sep 2023 07:28:02
I like this for the pacers.
Why would Orlando do this?

21 Sep 2023 17:41:23
Magic need elite shooter.

21 Sep 2023 20:41:06
Magic say hell no. Hield is not worth a 1st, let alone Harris and Okeke.

21 Sep 2023 21:46:40
Hield is the best player in the deal. He is an elite 3 point shooter. He would fill a big need for Orlando. He is also on expiring deal. Magic can r-sign him or use his cap space somewhere else. Also, the 1st pick being given up by Magic is lottery protected, so not near as valuable as an unprotected pick. Harris is a starter, but he is taking minutes from young guys with better upside (Black, Suggs), so he is a short term loss for a long term win. Okeke is way down on the depth chart for the Magic, no great loss.

I think this is a good deal for Orlando and Indy.

26 Sep 2023 16:28:57
Warlock- what has Harris or joker done to show value compared to Buddy?

20 Sep 2023 23:32:38
Clips- harden, theis

Westbrook preston
Harden powell
Kawhi mann
Morris batum
Zubac theis

Sixers- hield, nembhard, covington, jalen smith & 2 1sts Indiana

Maxey nembhard
Hield melton
Tucker oubre
Harris covington
Embiid smith bamba reed

Pacers- PG

Haliburton mcconnell
Brown Mathurin
PG nesmith
Toppin walker
Turner smith

21 Sep 2023 07:28:34
i take this for Indy.

21 Sep 2023 21:51:45
I don't see the Clippers giving up Paul George to get Hardin.

20 Sep 2023 12:19:48
Miami Heat receive: G Damian Lillard, F P.J. Tucker, F Kyle Anderson, '25 MIA 1st

Thunder receive: G Keon Johnson, '26 MIA 1st

Timberwolves receive: G James Harden, G De'Anthony Melton

76ers receive: G Tyler Herro, G Mike Conley Jr., F Haywood Highsmith

Blazers receive: G Kyle Lowry, F Davis Bertans, F Jaime Jaquez Jr., G Wendell Moore Jr., F Nikola Jovic, '24, '28, & '30 MIA 1sts, '25 MIN 2nd via UTA, '26 MIA 2nd via LAL, '29 & '30 MIN 2nds, rights to swap '25, '27, & '29 MIA 1sts

21 Sep 2023 14:01:38
Minnesota want no part of Harden.

26 Sep 2023 14:41:34
Agreed. The Wolves would never put a malcontent like Harden next to Ant. That’s beyond even the Gobert trade level of stupid.

19 Sep 2023 20:02:27
Cavs - ingram, valanciunas, trent jr, 1st from raps, swap from raps

Garland
Strus
Ingram
Mobley
Valanciunas

Pels- anunoby, allen, okoro, 1st from raps

Cj
Anunoby
Murphy
Zion
Allen

Raps- mitchell

Dennis
Mitchell
Barnes
Siakam
Poeltl

20 Sep 2023 06:39:58
Cavs giving up too much. Mitchell is better than Ingram, Allen is better than Valanciunas.

Great trades for Raptors and Pelicans.

21 Sep 2023 01:29:37
I’d rather have Ingram over OG.

18 Sep 2023 07:10:28
My dream Cavs re-tool

Trade #1:
Cleveland gets: Scoot Henderson, Anfernee Simons & Jusuf Nurkic
Portland gets: Darius Garland & Jarrett Allen

Why?
Cleveland chooses to go into a different direction. As of now, their ceiling is second round, which is not enough. Scoot is a great fit next to Mitchell. Simons would be a great bench piece & Nurkic is added to match salary, but he could contribute as well.
Portland goes for players who are proven & young as well. They then have the ability to trade Lillard for players that fit next to Garland & Allen.

Trade #2:
Cleveland gets: Brandon Miller & Mark Williams
Charlotte gets: Evan Mobley & Ricky Rubio

Why?
Cleveland mixes it up to try & have a higher ceiling by going for younger players with high upside. Miller has star potential & Williams has a high ceiling himself.
Charlotte gets one of the best young players in the NBA, a good fit next to LaMelo.

In these scenarios, the Cavs do this to build around Mitchell. He's the future of this team, the best player on the roster & the only one who is close to being a superstar. If you put together a winning team next to him, he'll likely stay. Besides, the Cavs can offer him much more money compared to other teams.

Coaching change
Cavaliers fire J. B. Bickerstaff in favor of an assistant coach who is highly regarded in Charles Lee. J. B. Bickerstaff is not very well liked amongst Cavs fans thanks to some questionable decisions & poor adjustments.

Sign Wenyel Gabriel

New Cavaliers line-up:
PG: Scoot Henderson / Ty Jerome
SG: Donovan Mitchell / Anfernee Simons / Max Strus
SF: Brandon Miller / Caris LeVert / Isaac Okoro
PF: Wenyel Gabriel / Georges Niang / Dean Wade
C: Mark Williams / Jusuf Nurkic / Damian Jones
Coach: Charles Lee.

18 Sep 2023 08:31:33
Apologies for the spam. I had to modify my trades, didn't realize they would all be posted.