NBA rumours 6

12 Apr 2021 16:16:19
Pels fan - Just wondering!

Bos - NOP

Ingram for Brown
(and balance out any value differences with add-ons)

My thought is the Pels desperately need more defensive minded playmakers and Boston is solid on defense and could use more natural scoring and have enough defense to cover for Ingram's lack of defense. Both players would really fit the new teams and they seem to be close to equal value.

12 Apr 2021 18:14:28
I would invols OKC

Boston: horford+ SG Alexander
Pel: J Brown
OK: Ingram+ LA Pick

I really think SGA-Tatum would be an awesome combo.

12 Apr 2021 18:31:41
@gasupo. Is Boston financially prepared to offer SGA a max deal after next year when he is a RFA?

12 Apr 2021 19:05:10
That doesn't seem like enough for Boston. Horford would help them (again) but his contract is horrible and I'm thinking SGA is not at the level of Brown or Ingram. But I'd take it if it was offered!

12 Apr 2021 20:49:22
Why would Cs trade brown? Sga is not on Browns level yet? You never know if he will. Brown is special and has no prior injuries.

11 Apr 2021 21:12:41
Hornets get Plumlee Joseph Quickley NY 22 23 2ND
Detriot get Barrett Toppin Bamba NY 22 DAL 23 1ST
Orlando get Knox McCruder 2 Jazz 1st via NY
Knicks get Rozier Grant Richards 55 59

Jo
seph for Jordan

Ball/Graham/Riller
Quickley/Caleb

12 Apr 2021 00:57:02
Jazz 2nd.

12 Apr 2021 10:07:05
Magic say no.

12 Apr 2021 10:07:44
Knicks say no too.

12 Apr 2021 17:24:17
Sorry but the sight chopped my full original trade.

Orlando get Knox McCruder 2 JAZZ 2ND
Orlando traded MCW Bamba.

11 Apr 2021 16:21:12
Magic Wolves Knicks NBA Draft Trade !

Magic get Jarrett Culver 1 pick.via Wolves

Wolves get Markelle Fultz 4 pick.via Magic 13 pick.via Knicks 2023 first round pick(Top 4 protected).via Bulls from Magic 2025 first round pick(unprotected).via Knicks

Knicks get D'Angelo Russell

11 Apr 2021 16:59:50
I don't like your idea via makes no sense.

11 Apr 2021 17:04:37
Russell >> Fultz. Fultz is an overpaid Ntilikina not his game but talent. So you want Culver and 1st pick. Vs fultz 4th and 2025 1st. GFOOH. wolves and knick can make deal without Orlando if they want Russell. Russell hasn't won anywhere.

11 Apr 2021 19:06:56
Not feeling those future picks when both teams have other 2021 selections.

Also, how quick does KAT drop his trade demand after this trade is completed?

11 Apr 2021 21:07:42
Still trying to get gold from garbage I see.

11 Apr 2021 22:50:50
KAT already asked for a trade, didn’t he? I can’t see that changing any time soon. He won’t be there more than another season or two.

12 Apr 2021 18:33:02
I think KAT has pulled back from that once DLo arrived and/ or his family catching c.v., BMiller.

11 Apr 2021 15:46:10
The way Brunson improves fit well for Mavs and Wiz and simplifies the trade:

Sign Holmes and trade:

WIZ Brunson, Green, Powell, 2x1st
DAL Beal

Join THJ by MLE.

Y know : )

ring ring

11 Apr 2021 16:35:58
Again.

11 Apr 2021 16:47:56
You really don't know salary cap mechanics, do ya?

Its easy to say all these signings without actually listing a number. don't have to consider the salary cap or the CBA restrictions that way.

So where is the $15 mil in cap space needed to sign Holmes AND the $20 mil in cap space needed to complete the Beal trade? Spotrac is saying that Dallas has only around $24 mil in cap space after not picking up WCS team option and renouncing all the cap holds including THJ. That renouncement means that Dallas cannot exceed the salary cap to resign THJ BTW.

The only way this works is Dallas resigns THJ for around $4 mil (unlikely), use the remaining cap space to complete the Beal trade, and then try to sign Holmes for the MLE (also unlikely) .

Good luck with that.

11 Apr 2021 17:07:23
Porzingis for Beal

Y know : (.

11 Apr 2021 21:09:34
The Mavs do not have the talent or picks to form a big 3

Man you’re a one trick pony.

11 Apr 2021 23:25:56
Once serious about CAP - it is finally details. But Josh and Holmes you can sign starting 11.5m.

Extend and Trade Brunson at 2m + Green 3m and Powell 11m having 13m CAP and 125% + 100k of the outgoing trade y take Beal at ~34.5m.

Afterwards y still under the Taxline and can use MLE starting 9.7m to sign THJ.

Does it ring?

12 Apr 2021 13:34:08
Washington hangs up and won't listen to another "ring" from the Mavs.

12 Apr 2021 16:54:30
@ringring. Again, not understanding CBA or salary cap mechanics.

the "125% + $100K" rule applies to the outgoing salary only NOT CAP SPACE. So teams can not add the $13 mil in cap space as part of the outgoing salary. It is "125% plus $100K" of the $16 mil that the Mavs are sending out in Green, Brunson and Powell. So the Mavs can take back $20.1 mil IF they were over the salary cap at the end of the trade.

But the funny thing is that this is the wrong rule as well. Since the outgoing salary falls in between $6,533,334 - $19.6 mil, it would fall under the "outgoing salary + $5 mil" rule. This trade under this rule does not work as well.

So the Mavs have either two choices, spend roughly $20 mil in cap space to complete the Beal trade OR add another roughly $11.5 mil in salary (Richardson? ) to the trade to make the numbers work.

Lastly, there is also a rule in the CBA that says that if a team renounces the cap hold on a player, then the team can not resign that player if the signing puts the team over the salary cap. Signing THJ after renouncing his right using the MLE is exactly what that rule is designed to prevent. Which makes perfect sense, because if teams could just waive and resign over the salary cap, then what is the purpose of the cap hold to begin with? Because of this, the only way this trade works is resigning THJ cheap (which erases his cap hold) so that Dallas has enough cap space to complete the Beal trade and then sign Holmes with the MLE.

Again, good luck with that.

11 Apr 2021 11:57:00
Boston: SG Alexander+Horford

OKC: T Harris+Milton+ 1rnd pick Philly 2021 and 2023

Philly: J Brown+ T Thompson

11 Apr 2021 12:43:56
When I saw the first part I thought oh he's got Boston trading Kemba, getting Horford for him makes some sense. A couple of seconds go by, say what?

11 Apr 2021 13:04:12
Thunder say hell no.

11 Apr 2021 13:08:35
Huge no from OKC.

11 Apr 2021 14:55:00
Thunder won’t trade SGA and Boston won’t trade Brown.

11 Apr 2021 18:37:21
I can see okc doing the trade not Boston.

11 Apr 2021 11:42:56
Read this in Pro Sports Daily .

Mavs get Walker, Williams lll, Pritchard

Celtics get the Unicorn

Thoughts?

11 Apr 2021 12:01:39
meh. who is running point in Boston?

11 Apr 2021 12:47:00
Smart can play the point for Boston as he's their best facilitator. I can see Kemba going to the Mavs if they can't land any FAs, but I would think it's more likely to be for something like Richardson + Kleber.

11 Apr 2021 13:09:13
Smart/ Brown/ Tatum/ Porzingis/ Williams

I still think it's too much for Porzingis.

11 Apr 2021 15:13:32
I don't think it's too much for Porzingis and he'd be a great fit in Boston. He is unreliable but I still think Mavs say no.

11 Apr 2021 15:15:28
And one more thing, if this was the framework for a deal, replace Pritchard with Langford or Nesmith. Dallas has Brunson and Boston would need a back up for Smart.

11 Apr 2021 19:38:19
I would guess Smart would.

Theres no way I would get rid of Williams and Pritchard just to unload Walker. The Unicorn is too fragile to trade for.

12 Apr 2021 09:00:44
Smart is the one, of the big 3, that will be traded. His contract is almost up.

12 Apr 2021 12:05:05
Joe, Boston doesn't have a big 3. Boston will try their best to unload Walker this summer, and Ainge needs to not sit around and wait for a deal that most likely won't happen. A 3 team deal will need to happen for Boston to get the most value for Kemba.

I'd like to see CP3 there to teach Tatum and Brown to be leaders.

12 Apr 2021 17:02:50
Call it what you want, biggie. Tatum Brown and Smart are the 3 top players on the team. So, it's a matter of semantics.
I too would love a CP3 or similar player to teach Brown and Tatum how to win.

11 Apr 2021 04:41:45
I know I might get a lot of hate especially from Bmiller but I think Blazers are better with Kanter at center than Nurkic.

Off-season trade

Warriors - Nurkic

Blazers - Oubre (s&t)

Resign Kanter
Bring back Whiteside (another one that Bmiller might personally hate. However he fits what they need especially something different than Kanter)


Lillard/Simons
McCollum/Powell
Oubre/Jones
Covington/Melo/Little
Kanter/Whiteside

11 Apr 2021 11:58:14
The Blazers should get a pick from GS.

11 Apr 2021 12:12:42
Trade will leave Portland Hard Apron Capped with about $13 mil to resign Kanter and Melo while also signing Whiteside assuming that Oubre is willing to sign for the $12 mil that Nurkic makes next year (doubful) . Also assuming that Powell and Jones opt into their remaining year (doubtful for Powell) . Also Portland still would have 2 empty roster spots that would have to be filled while remaining under the Hard Salary Cap.

So overall very doubtful.

11 Apr 2021 15:38:32
Good god, never ever ever ever bring back Whiteside. I’d rather have RHJ playing center. Or Giles Or Little. Or Covington. He doesn’t fit anything anyone needs. He’s the worst.

And you’re right, I totally 100% disagree about Kanter. He can’t be the permanent starter with Lillard and McCollum. You can’t have 2 bad defenders at guard only to have the worst defensive starting center in the NBA behind them. They’re infinitely better with Nurkic.

Not against moving on from Nurkic, but not for those two at center.

11 Apr 2021 22:51:55
I also really don’t want another season of Melo.

10 Apr 2021 19:17:11
CHA gets: Markannen and Arcidiacano

CHI gets: Devante Graham.

10 Apr 2021 20:31:59
Lauri is free agent can’t be traded If traded can’t be with another player and salaries don’t match.