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21 Oct 2019 17:33:39
Indy: Markannen* if cleared to play

NO: Sabonis+ Hutchison

Bulls: Moore+ 1rnd pick Indy 2022+ 1rnd pick Indy 2024 (top 6 protected)+ 1rnd pick LA 2024 (and the rights to swap it for the 2025 pick)

Indy get af forward that can spread the floor and would be a good combo with Turner

NO get a proven center for only one draft pick.

Chicago is stashing up draft picks so they can go after A Davis in 2021. (redoing the clippers move, and let A Davis choose his companion).


1.) 21 Oct 2019 17:49:26
If I’m NO, I just go straight for Markannen. He’s the better fit.

2.) 21 Oct 2019 19:01:35
Yea, that Sabonis-Zion pairing would concern me.



17 Oct 2019 18:34:42
Orl: Jr Holiday+ 2rnd pick Was 2021


Minny: Isaac+ Bamba+Fultz+ 1rnd pick Cle 2020+ 1rnd pick NO 2020 and 2022+ 1rnd pick LA 2021+ 1rnd pick LA 2024


1.) 17 Oct 2019 19:23:25
KAT is good, even great. but 5 first rounders plus three young high first rounders? That is essentially 8 first rounders? Minnesota is not getting that much for KAT.

2.) 17 Oct 2019 20:39:26
That Cleveland pick would propably conveye in two second round picks.
And NO would propably be a playoff contender with KAT, so only that LA 2024 pick could go high that's a fair price for KAT.



17 Oct 2019 09:19:44
Utah: LM aldridge

Spurs: Isaac+ Bamba+ Ingels

Orl: Exum+ bradley+ 1rnd pick Utah 2020+ 1rnd pick Utah 2022 (lottery protected)+ 1rnd pick spurs 2020 (top 3 protected)


1.) 17 Oct 2019 12:16:50
Magic should get la for that package.

2.) 17 Oct 2019 16:14:50
So Utah traded their 2020 first to Memphis in the Conley deal. That pick also has protections through 2024 so Utah only had one first rounder available to be traded at this time (2026). Not sure how you are including Utah's 2020 + 2022 picks in this deal.

3.) 17 Oct 2019 18:04:51
Isn't three draft picks a lot for Bamba and Isaac?

Bamba and Isaac both should start to develop and Orlando already has Vucevic and A gordon for those spots. The draft picks gives them flexebility and time. They can draft prospects or they can use them to get a better pointguard or shooting guard (B Beal could be available this year? ) .

C:vucevic/ Bradley
PF:A Gordon/ Aminu
SF:T ross/ Iwundu
SG:Fournier/ Fultz
PG:augustin/ exum.

4.) 17 Oct 2019 19:01:03
Gasupo, is 2 lottery picks worth 2 end of the first round picks and 1 mid first round pick?

5.) 17 Oct 2019 21:02:56
The Spurs without LMA are nog going to make the playoffs, so that Spurs pick could go high.
And it's still not sure Bamba and Isaac are going to make it. And they won't for sure if they stay in Orlando getting limited minutes behind Vucevic and A Gordon.

But this in a non trade indeed, i should have checked that Utah traded their picks to Memphis.

6.) 17 Oct 2019 22:27:13
Young talent in the Spurs organization make it. Period. Issac alone can be at LMA-level in 2 years in the Spurs organization.



16 Oct 2019 22:55:13
Boston: Drummond+Galloway

Detroit: G Hayward+Langford+ 1rnd pick Memphis


1.) 17 Oct 2019 10:35:35
You're not getting Drummond for the Pick and Langford, let alone with sending a bad contract like Hayward to Detroit.



15 Oct 2019 23:41:50
OKC: G Hayward+ Langford

Boston: Gallinari+Bamba+Augustin

Orl:Schroder+1rnd pick Denver (top 20 protected)+ 1rnd pick Boston(top 20 protected)


1.) 16 Oct 2019 01:21:20
Orlando is getting robbed.

2.) 16 Oct 2019 01:53:12
Why for Orlando? Schroeder and Augustine is a push and last year lottery pick (Bamba) is better than 2 late firsts.

3.) 16 Oct 2019 03:10:41
No from OKC and no from Orlando. OKC should get picks for taking Hayward. Langford isn't enough to equalize the contract.

Augustin is better than Schröder, and Bamba is worth more than two late first rounders.

4.) 16 Oct 2019 03:48:21
Orlando passes. They don't want any part of Schroeder and 2 late 1sts for Bamba and Augustin isn't enough. Bamba was 5th overall and has steadily improved.

5.) 16 Oct 2019 13:48:13
*tearing up* people agreeing on a player's value is a beautiful thing to behold.




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21 Oct 2019 08:52:23
Teams that could be surprisingly good:

1) Sacramento ( reminds me to a young golden state team, this is the break out year)
2)Dallas (a healty Porzingis plays ass a beast)
3)OKC (CP3 revenche)
4) NO (The combo zion-Ball works)
5)Washington (Beal plays like an MVP)


1.) 21 Oct 2019 10:29:44
I would add Heat (Butler plays MVP level, and Herro plays at a rookie of the year level) .
They didn't make playoffs last year but if their 2 big additions in Butler and Herro both play well they could make a top 4 seed in the East. Plus i think they will make another move at somepoint before the trade deadline to improve.

2.) 21 Oct 2019 15:59:10
Define surprisingly good. I think OKC, Dallas, NO, and Sacramento probably fight for the 9 spot in the west. I also think NO and OKC inevitably trade their good vets around the trade deadline and drop off significantly.

3.) 21 Oct 2019 16:23:17
surpricely good for me:
Sacramento: 48 wins
Dallas: 46 wins
OKC: 42 wins
NO:42 wins
Washington: 45 wins
And yeah, the Heat: 48 wins.

4.) 21 Oct 2019 17:28:26
I think Washington will surprise people. Especially if IT can get back to his Celtic-level of play.



17 Oct 2019 20:56:45
2019-2020 stat- predictions

top scorer: 1 Curry 2) Antetokounmpo 3) J Harden

Assists: 1) T Young 2) Westbrook 3) L Ball

rebounds:1 Drummond 2 Embiid 3 Gobert

Blocks: 1 M Robinson 2 Embiid 3 M Turner

3-point % 1 B Hield 2 J Harris 3 S Curry

FG%: 1 Harrell 2 Gobert 3 J Allen

FT% 1) Lillard 2 Harden 3 Brogdon


1.) 17 Oct 2019 22:15:47
Curry on FT%.

2.) 18 Oct 2019 02:39:47
Adams top 3 in rebounds.



16 Oct 2019 09:46:39
It's a guards league now. so i wonder what's the trade value for a talented center that has good rebound/ block and/or scoring numbers without a consistent 3- pointer like...

M Turner


1.) 16 Oct 2019 12:02:14
you won't be saying its guards league when the sixers hoist the LarryO in june.

2.) 16 Oct 2019 12:50:19
Horford/ Harris and Embiid can all spread the floor and shoot 3-pointers.
And the sixers can only win if Simmons starts to shoot them too.

3.) 16 Oct 2019 13:52:03
A good young talent, a 2020 or 2021 lottery protected 1st and expiring deals. Pretty much what the Kings got for Cousins a few years ago.

4.) 16 Oct 2019 16:10:21
What Fredman said, except Gobert is worth more than the rest. He's on another level than those guys.

If you can't run an offense through a center, you have to be an entire defense unto yourself. That's Gobert. And that's why Drummond, Adams, and Deandre Jordan have always been slightly disappointing.

5.) 16 Oct 2019 23:06:40
Bmiller, you can run your regular season defense around Gobert, but there are ways to negate him in the post season. I kind of wonder how Drummond would fair on a better team. Just letting him wreck the offensive boards could be interesting in the playoffs. I’ve seen Tristan Thompson change games that way and Drummond has the ability to do that times 10.

6.) 17 Oct 2019 20:45:25
We'll see if anyone can negate Gobert with the team around him. That team is GREAT defensively. And they should be pretty darn good on offense too.



07 Oct 2019 16:35:25
Wich teams should go in rebuilt mode?


1.) 07 Oct 2019 16:45:48
Minny, Washington (but keep Wall), Detroit, Miami, Toronto, SA.

2.) 07 Oct 2019 19:08:20
Raptors, Pistons, wizards, wolves, thunder, spurs.

3.) 07 Oct 2019 22:34:48
New York should go in rebuild mode on their rebuild.

4.) 08 Oct 2019 02:47:04
For the 4th time Freeman?

5.) 09 Oct 2019 16:05:31
Aren't the Thunder already in a rebuild smunro?

6.) 09 Oct 2019 23:59:03
Currently i would say Thunder is in more of a retool than rebuild. They could be a sneaky team and slip into that 8 or 7 seed like Clippers last year of they keep the current team and play to win. In my opinion once they trade CP3, Adams, and Gallo then they have officially entered rebuild right now i would say they aren't in full rebuild mode.

7.) 10 Oct 2019 01:42:27
Spurs are in a rebuild as well. Just doing it while Derozen and LMA carry the team.



02 Oct 2019 14:09:45
Whats the most likely to happen?

1) M Porter Jr becomes Rookie of the year.
2) Zion becomes a bust
3)M Conley becomes an all star
4)L Ball makes an all NBA team
5) Utah becomes Champion
6)Westbrook and Harden win the MVP together
7) C Anthony plays in the NBA this year
8) B Simmons develops a descent 3-point shot.
9)The Knicks make the playoffs
10) Golden state misses the playoffs
11) Minnesota trades KAT
12) Wiggins becomes a 20 point scorer
13) LBJ doesn't make the All star game
14)The Clippers keep a team under 50 points


1.) 02 Oct 2019 15:09:44

Utah will be scary to face in a 7 game series

Wiggins was already a 20 ppg scorer I believe. I can see him doing it again however it might not be efficiently.

2.) 02 Oct 2019 15:25:27
I'll just go High/ Medium/ Low I guess:

1) M Porter Jr becomes Rookie of the year.
Medium - that team is too deep.

2) Zion becomes a bust
Medium - No one is a sure thing, especially if you count injuries as "busts".

3)M Conley becomes an all star
Low - The west is too deep, and he's the third best player on his team.

4)L Ball makes an all NBA team
Low - I just don't see him as a top 15 player in the league. How does he pass Curry, Lillard, Harden, Butler, Westbrook, Holiday, McCollum, Simmons, Russell, Kemba, Irving, Beal, Mitchell, Booker, and probably more?

5) Utah becomes Champion
Medium - That's the highest I'd give anyone this year. I don't see a favorite. Utah is going to play amazing defense.

6)Westbrook and Harden win the MVP together
Zero - I think there's a better chance they miss the playoffs.

7) C Anthony plays in the NBA this year
Zero - I don't think he has another chance.
8) B Simmons develops a descent 3-point shot.

Medium - It wouldn't be a new happening. Guys learn to shoot in the league. If decent is low-mid 30's, he could do that this year.

9)The Knicks make the playoffs
Medium - The east is horrible past the top 5 or 6. The Knicks have just enough vets to do it and screw the future of the team.

10) Golden state misses the playoffs
Low - They still have 4 all stars (come all star break) . They're not head and shoulders above everyone else, but they're still probably the most talented starting lineup when healthy.

11) Minnesota trades KAT
High - Long term (next 18 months) I think it will happen. Maybe not this season, but it feel inevitable.

12) Wiggins becomes a 20 point scorer
High - He's done it two of his five years, why not again?

13) LBJ doesn't make the All star game
Medium - If he missed 20+ games again, sure. The west is loaded, if you can't stay healthy, you won't play in the all star game.

14)The Clippers keep a team under 50 points
Low - In the age of scoring, it's hard to see this happening. Maybe against Memphis? But it feel like a really low chance.

Overall most likely: Wiggins, because he's done it 2/ 5 seasons. He won't do it efficiently, but they don't have many other options to score a lot.

3.) 02 Oct 2019 17:04:37
4 has zero chance as All-NBA means that Lonzo becomes a top 6 guard in all the NBA (All-Star would be top 15). Better than the following?

Curry Lillard Kyrie Walker Harden Westbrook, Beal

That ain't going to happen.

But I am really feeling 12. 20 points on 30 shots per game.

4.) 05 Oct 2019 09:31:14
Decent or descent?
They have opposite meanings.

5.) 05 Oct 2019 19:51:46
Doesnt a decent 3pt shot usually have a descent through the hoop snd netting? 🤪.

6.) 07 Oct 2019 10:04:33
sorry guys, we can always talk in Dutch or French, my native languages, if you don't understand my English. :-p.

7.) 07 Oct 2019 14:12:14
No worries Gasupo. It seemed obvious that it was a "typo". Descent is a noun but was being used as an adjective in the sentence, so most non grammar-persons translated it to decent with no issues.




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21 Oct 2019 16:15:55
1)Why would Giannis go to Toronto? There are bigger markets for him.
2)Milwaukee would get a better offer for Giannis, even without an agreement he would sign in for his new destination.
3)Milwaukee should get Siakam is this trade
4) Toronto is one of the few teams that doesn't need Giannis, they already have Siakam.




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21 Oct 2019 08:45:43
Sabonis is not on the trade block.
We could trade him for a good deal, but he doesn't need to go.

I like Saric, but i value Sabonis higher. so we would want 1 first round pick too.




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21 Oct 2019 08:44:20
big no for Indy and Sacramento.




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21 Oct 2019 08:43:17
no, you made an Indy fan cry.




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21 Oct 2019 08:42:39
It's a fair price for sabonis, but i believe the duo Sabonis-turner can work. so i would only trade Sabonis for an overpay.





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