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05 Aug 2020 16:28:11
golden state: B Simmons

Boston: Lillard+ McCollum

Philly: K Walker

Portland: Wiggins+ J brown+ 1rnd pick GS+ 1rnd pick Bucks+ 1rnd pick Memphis+ 1rnd pick boston 2020-2022-2024

Gasupo

1.) 05 Aug 2020 16:49:01
Cant wait for BMiller's FU response.


2.) 05 Aug 2020 17:02:42
Who becomes Portland’s PG?


3.) 05 Aug 2020 17:41:29
So Simmons is worth a lottery pick, or less? 2 firsts and a terrible contract. what a steal for gsw.


4.) 05 Aug 2020 18:29:11
I didn’t notice McCollum in there at first and I didn’t like the return for just Lillard.


5.) 05 Aug 2020 20:20:50
Ok, fine, full Blazer homer breakdown:

McCollum = Brown

Before any Boston fan complains about that, know that fans of both teams would want an asset to swap those two. If Boston offered a straight swap, I’d want a first from Boston too.

Wiggins, Bucks first, Boston 2020 first = nothing.

The picks negate his negative value. There might still be a little negative value left.

So Portland ends up with:

Lillard = 1st pick and two future Boston firsts?

That’s a light return to say the least. If he had declined his extension, this might be ok. But he’s got 5 years on his contract and is happy in Portland.


6.) 05 Aug 2020 20:23:12
I also don’t like it for Phili. Simmons is very underrated by a lot of fans and he’s still very young.


7.) 05 Aug 2020 22:30:33
* i forgot the Minny 2021 pick

And Portland could use the bucks, Memphis and/ or boston pick to move up in the draft with their own pick (4 picks for a lottery pick)

So imagine
The GS pick becomes the first pick and they trade the other picks for a top 6 lottery pick.

they draft Edwards
And with the other pick can they draft Wiseman, Toppin, Okongwu, Hayes or Ball

Portland:
C:Nurkic
PF:Collins
SF:J Brown
SG:Edwards
PG:Hayes.

that's not a bad team for a rebuilt?
and they have flexibel assets for the next 4 years.
They propably have 2 lottery picks in 2021
two first round picks in 2022
one first rounder in 2023
And two first round picks in 2024.


8.) 06 Aug 2020 00:23:54
Bmiller, times have changed Wiggins has different value since the beginning of the szn. For a team who wants to blow it up who has cap space, he would be worth taking a chance on. I am going to venture to say that Wiggins + 1 second = nothing given he's still young.


9.) 06 Aug 2020 04:16:54
Would love Lilliard and McCollum in the East bc they kill the Thunder but no chance of that happening.


 

 

03 Aug 2020 13:01:43
Denver:Westbrook

Houston: B Simmons

Philly: Murray+M Porter Jr

Gasupo

1.) 03 Aug 2020 13:31:20
Why would Denver do that?


2.) 03 Aug 2020 13:44:34
Why would Denver want Westbrook when they could get Simmons? I’d rather just cut Houston out if I’m Denver.

That said, I’m not sure Murray isn’t just as good as Simmons. And Denver thinks Porter could be a star.


3.) 03 Aug 2020 16:34:20
I think this would work well for Denver. Jokic is the ideal center for Westbrook and Barton and Harris are good wings for both of them.

Murray is a downgrade over Simmons, but he would be a better combo with embiid and Porter could be a jackpot if he can stay healty.


4.) 03 Aug 2020 17:02:47
I also think age is a huge factor here. Westbrook is almost 32 and plays a very physical style. I think a good comparison to him is Iverson (not in style, but in reckless physicality of play) . Iverson hit the wall at around 32. Westbrook’s play won’t age well.


5.) 04 Aug 2020 01:16:01
I would much rather have Murray over Simmons. It's a shooting and scoring league now. Can't win if one of your stars can't shoot.


 

 

02 Aug 2020 19:15:33
Would this team be a contender?

1)Suns-Dallas

dallas:Ayton
Suns :doncic

2)Suns-Indiana
Suns: TJ Warren
Indiana:cash considerations

3) Suns-OKC
OKC:Bridges
Suns: SGA

4)Suns-Knicks
Knicks: 2rnd pick
suns: M Robinson

C:Robinson
PF:Warren
SF:Doncic
SG:Booker
PG:SGA

Gasupo

1.) 02 Aug 2020 19:44:36
Clearly suns are getting robbed on all trades.


2.) 02 Aug 2020 21:09:12
Booker is being robbed to plan for a great team ;-p.


 

 

01 Jul 2020 09:52:06
Nets: Booker

Magic:Dinwidie

Suns: LeVert+Isaac+3 first round picks Nets

Gasupo

1.) 01 Aug 2020 17:10:38
I wouldn’t trade my best prospect for Dinwiddie when he won’t make the magic much better or a a contender.


2.) 02 Aug 2020 10:35:26
Nba16- just playing 70 games makes him more valuable. Issac may be great or he may be hurt most of his career. Spencer with Ross and fultz Ag and Vuc makes magic dangerous.


 

 

01 Aug 2020 08:55:51
Philly: D Booker

Memphis: B Simmons

Phoenix: J Jackson jr+ KAnderson+T Jones+ 1rnd pick Memphis 2021 and 2023

Gasupo

1.) 01 Aug 2020 11:49:42
Not understanding why Memphis would want Simmons. Morant is the primary ball handler and JJJ has stretch-4 capabilities while being able to defend.


2.) 01 Aug 2020 14:31:54
Jaren Jackson is untouchable unless the Mavs are willing yo give up Doncic or NO is willing to give up Zion.


3.) 01 Aug 2020 22:33:10
Why would Memphis want simmons? He could create more fast break opportunities for Ja. Simmons is a plus defender that could guard 1-5. he's already a proven all star at 24 years old and is only getting better. But yeah Memphis wouldn’t want him.


 

 

 

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29 Jul 2020 23:15:17
Pippen says Chicago isn't a free agent destination.
So i wonder, what are big market teams that can sign star free agents because they're atractive?

Big Market: Clippers, Lakers, Warriors, Miami, Knicks, Nets.

Boston?
Philly?
Chicago?
Phoenix?
Dallas?
Houston?

Gasupo

1.) 30 Jul 2020 08:26:59
Of the 6 areas listed, I would say Houston would be the most attractive. Tax Free State, large African-American community, Warm weather, Winning Team and Ownership willing to spend $$$.

The only real negative that I can see is not getting the ball from Harden (and now Westbrook) .


2.) 30 Jul 2020 14:52:22
US born players may not see it because they can't deal with losing American TV stations, but for international players Toronto is a destination now. A multicultural city with less crime and racism than just about any US market.


3.) 30 Jul 2020 17:37:08
Toronto isn’t a destination until they actually sign someone.

California (minus Sacramento), Texas, and Florida seem like the 3 places. And I guess the Nets.


4.) 30 Jul 2020 19:36:12
I think Toronto is a destination for international talent, but not for US-grown talent. Something about leaving the comfort of the "greatest nation on the planet" has an impact on the decisions American players make. I also believe there is a belief that American markets are bigger than any Canadian market. May not be actually true, but would love to compare Nike deals for players drafted to American teams versus Toronto.

Also, you have that 33% income tax rate to consider as well.


5.) 30 Jul 2020 21:56:33
People forget just how big the dc market is. The only reason they are considered an even remotely small market is because the team currently sucks. Most of us forget that they are the nations capitol and one of the most densely populated cities in the country. If they were to get a better cap situation and become an even slightly winning team, dc could be a very popular fa destination.

They were close to getting pg when they were good. The only places that actually have a bigger market are LA and NYC.


6.) 31 Jul 2020 18:25:45
International players, yes, like a certain Greek MVP.


 

 

26 Jul 2020 08:09:39
Do you guys think, this Orlando buble can influence the free agency decision of some superstars to play together?


And what superteam do you think is realistic?

Gasupo

1.) 26 Jul 2020 12:06:54
Duh! Why do you think Kyrie wanted to go to the bubble even thoufh he was not going to play? Recruiters freakin' dream.

Oladipo and Giannis to Miami to join Butler has been theorized for a while now.


2.) 26 Jul 2020 12:39:52
Fred if that happens Miami would be a dynasty for years. Nunn Dipo Butler Giannis Adebayo will be one of the best defensive team all time and off the bench are shooters like Robinson and Herro. Can Miami ever make that work? If yes, game over.


3.) 26 Jul 2020 13:59:47
I thnk Harden could join the clippers in 2022

Leonar-Harden-P George.


4.) 26 Jul 2020 17:26:55
Lebron, Lebron jr, Zion, Luka and Giannis to the Knicks.


5.) 26 Jul 2020 18:38:53
@usa. Because of salary caps Giannis and Dipo will have to join Miami via S&Ts. So I can see Bam, Robinson, Herro all gone to Milwaukee or Indy.

Slightly concerned that Miami may make a move on Fox instead of Dipo if Fox doesn't sign an extension this summer.


6.) 27 Jul 2020 00:30:56
Giannis to Toronto?


7.) 27 Jul 2020 02:29:14
I could see Bam, Robinson, and Nunn being the central pieces of a Giannis trade.


8.) 27 Jul 2020 16:27:57
A BAM/ Robinson / Nunn package would be a great return for the Bucks.


9.) 27 Jul 2020 17:25:56
Forgot that all 3 would be RFAs when Giannis is a UFA. can't S&T them together or with Herro and Iggy. So only way Milwaukee gets this package is if they trade Giannis in the last year of his deal.


10.) 27 Jul 2020 18:07:57
It would be this offseason Fredman. That’s the only way it works. But if Giannis declines to sign a supermax extension, I think Milwaukee would be stupid to not consider trading him.

At the end of the day, that’s the point of the supermax extension. You get to know if the player is committed the season before he’s a free agent. If he’s not, you make a trade.


11.) 29 Jul 2020 20:22:21
Everyone is going to be in Orlando and go damn this place is full of old people and tourists. Let's all make a pact to never go there again!


 

 

24 Jul 2020 15:20:48
What was the best trade that led to a championship

1) Rodman to the Bulls
2)Drexler to the Rockets
3)R Wallace to the Pistons
4)Garnett and R Allen to Boston
5)R Artest to LA
6)T Chandler to Dallas
6)K Leonard to toronto
7)B Russell to Boston
8)W Chamberlain to Lakers
9)Other trade

Gasupo

1.) 24 Jul 2020 19:07:12
Leonard to Toronto.


2.) 24 Jul 2020 22:42:38
Klaw to Toronto seems the most obvious because he led the team to the Championship.

Surprised Lebron to Miami is not listed. It was a S&T.


3.) 24 Jul 2020 23:59:29
Gasol to Lakers should be listed but i agree the leonard one is the best.


4.) 25 Jul 2020 13:39:26
Celtics won 11 titles in 13 seasons with Russell. How is this even debatable?


5.) 30 Jul 2020 21:05:57
Wallace to pistons was mid season and it was huge.


 

 

19 Jul 2020 23:50:03
i'm trying to make an all time defensive list.

1) B Russell (Boston ranked first in defensive rating every year except one and was one of the weakest ofensive teams during their eleven titles run
2)T Duncan (15 all defensive teams)
3) H Olajuwon (the only player with 3000 blocks and 2000 steals)
4)K Garnett (11453 defensive rebounds)
5) D Robinson (7000 defensive rebounds, 2500 blocks, 1300 steals)
6)B Wallace (4time defensive player of the year
7) Mutombo (4 time defensive player of the year)
8) M Jordan
9)G Payton
10) S Pippen
11)D Rodman
12)K Leonard
13)D Howard
14)D Green
15)K Abdul Jabar
16) C Paul
17)W Chamberlain
18)K Bryant
19)A Mourning
20) J Stocton

Gasupo

1.) 20 Jul 2020 04:33:49
Feel like Patrick Ewing and PG13 should be on here somewhere. Maybe in place of Kobe and Dwight Howard?


2.) 20 Jul 2020 08:56:52
Kobe deserves a spot Fred. He is one of the best defensive guards.


3.) 20 Jul 2020 12:47:19
PG13 has a better career steal and defensive rebound average than Kobe. Just because you are "one of the best" does not mean there are not better defenders throughout NBA history. Its not a slight on Kobe, but Georges numbers are better.


4.) 20 Jul 2020 13:50:19
I really think Kobe’s defense was overrated. He was a good defender. For a superstar scoring guard, he was a great defender.

Has Gobert not earned a spot here being DPOY twice?

Also, you can’t remove Howard, who won DPOY 3 times. At his peak, he was an incredible defender.

The top 5 seems locked in. Past that, there’s a lot of wiggle room.


5.) 20 Jul 2020 19:52:46
You just don't like Kobe guys.


6.) 20 Jul 2020 20:17:03
I could probably be talked into keeping Kobe in the top 20. He’s borderline. I just never thought he was that great of a defender watching him. He’s a lot like Lebron on defense. When they lock in (late in a game, game 7 of a playoff series) they can be GREAT defenders. But they don’t sustain the greatness on that end.

I completely understand why too. The burden they shoulder offensively is heavy. Having to go 100% on defense and be the entire offense isn’t realistic while playing the minutes they play game in and game out.


7.) 20 Jul 2020 21:40:25
I agree with what you said BMiller.


8.) 21 Jul 2020 09:19:39
Gobert and PG13 are SNUBS, but there's no one on this list i would trow out for them. Gobert has a chance in a few years.

Maybe CP3 should be replaced. He's a great defender, but not great enough to make it to the finals.


9.) 30 Jul 2020 21:08:51
Wade was a better all around defender than Kobe. Close in steals better in blocks.


 

 

18 Jul 2020 07:37:16
What should Indy do with Victor Oladipo

1)Trade him now
2)Trade him before the trade deadline
3) Give him a max contract
4) Try to get a S&T in 2021
5)something else?

Gasupo

1.) 18 Jul 2020 11:14:26
Depends on if and how Dipo plays in the bubble. got to show he is healthy.


 

 

 

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05 Aug 2020 22:30:33
* i forgot the Minny 2021 pick

And Portland could use the bucks, Memphis and/ or boston pick to move up in the draft with their own pick (4 picks for a lottery pick)

So imagine
The GS pick becomes the first pick and they trade the other picks for a top 6 lottery pick.

they draft Edwards
And with the other pick can they draft Wiseman, Toppin, Okongwu, Hayes or Ball

Portland:
C:Nurkic
PF:Collins
SF:J Brown
SG:Edwards
PG:Hayes.

that's not a bad team for a rebuilt?
and they have flexibel assets for the next 4 years.
They propably have 2 lottery picks in 2021
two first round picks in 2022
one first rounder in 2023
And two first round picks in 2024.

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05 Aug 2020 16:31:12
i don't dislike this trade idea, but i think Indy can get a first in this trade, if Dipo signs an extention.

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03 Aug 2020 16:34:20
I think this would work well for Denver. Jokic is the ideal center for Westbrook and Barton and Harris are good wings for both of them.

Murray is a downgrade over Simmons, but he would be a better combo with embiid and Porter could be a jackpot if he can stay healty.

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03 Aug 2020 10:12:52
Can't see this happen, but i think Orlando is a good destination for Smith Jr

Smith+ robinson+Knox+Barrett+Ball is a good trade package for Booker. The Suns are in rebuildingmode since 2009. so they could prefere young talent over draft picks.

Suns:
C:Ayton/ Robinson
PF:free agent or draft/ Saric
Sf:Oubre/ Knox/ Bridges
SG:Barrett/ Smith
PG:Ball/ Rubio.

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02 Aug 2020 21:09:12
Booker is being robbed to plan for a great team ;-p.

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