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17 Oct 2019 07:36:18
I like Bradley green James Davis McGee as starting 5 for Lakers. Hope James could shoot 5/6 or like 11/13 from ft every real game

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16 Oct 2019 09:46:39
It's a guards league now. so i wonder what's the trade value for a talented center that has good rebound/ block and/or scoring numbers without a consistent 3- pointer like...

Vucevic
Bamba
Drummond
Sabonis
M Turner
Adams
Gobert

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16 Oct 2019 12:02:14
you won't be saying its guards league when the sixers hoist the LarryO in june.

16 Oct 2019 12:50:19
@Smunro
Horford/ Harris and Embiid can all spread the floor and shoot 3-pointers.
And the sixers can only win if Simmons starts to shoot them too.

16 Oct 2019 13:52:03
A good young talent, a 2020 or 2021 lottery protected 1st and expiring deals. Pretty much what the Kings got for Cousins a few years ago.

16 Oct 2019 16:10:21
What Fredman said, except Gobert is worth more than the rest. He's on another level than those guys.

If you can't run an offense through a center, you have to be an entire defense unto yourself. That's Gobert. And that's why Drummond, Adams, and Deandre Jordan have always been slightly disappointing.

16 Oct 2019 23:06:40
Bmiller, you can run your regular season defense around Gobert, but there are ways to negate him in the post season. I kind of wonder how Drummond would fair on a better team. Just letting him wreck the offensive boards could be interesting in the playoffs. I’ve seen Tristan Thompson change games that way and Drummond has the ability to do that times 10.

17 Oct 2019 20:45:25
We'll see if anyone can negate Gobert with the team around him. That team is GREAT defensively. And they should be pretty darn good on offense too.

15 Oct 2019 17:35:35
Mavs need a rebounding center with some defensive skills...What players would fit Mavs lineup and what would be needed to get them? As rumor is that Drummond is expected to be available, I was trying to create trades for him...But let's see what everyone thinks..

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15 Oct 2019 19:30:24
I’m not sure that Dallas has enough to go out and get him. They don’t have a ton of assets outside of Doncic and KP.

15 Oct 2019 19:45:02
Adams makes sense. So does Drummond if/ when Detroit blows it up. Maybe Vucevic?

15 Oct 2019 21:05:05
I see several possible acquisitions, but what so the MAVS have to to give up to acquire these players.?

15 Oct 2019 23:51:43
Adams would be the cheapest and most realistic.

16 Oct 2019 01:49:47
May want to see what Memphis wants for Valancinous. I know they just resigned him, but does he fit their youth movement with JJJ and Clarke?

16 Oct 2019 16:40:56
Valanciusnas+KAnderson (3yrs$29MilOwed) for HardawayJR+CLee (expiring) +2026FirstRoundPick+2020SecondRoundPick (Utah) .

Memphis is lite on SGs so Hardaway may work there. Dallas takes on Anderson's remaining salary.

15 Oct 2019 13:16:00
It didn't take too long before Lebron exposed himself of his selfishness. Greedy mofo. I wish nothing but bad fortune him financially. His pov China is an embarrassment to the nba and this country.

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15 Oct 2019 19:13:24
Yeah, it’s pretty disappointing from a guy who wants to present himself the way he does on other social issues.

10 Oct 2019 01:40:59
So with the salary cap lowering the salary and luxury cap projection by around $15 mil (an actual decline of around $9 mil from this year) because of China, a majority of teams are already looking to be over the luxury tax for next year. Free cap space is going to be at a premium and require more draft picks to secure. Prepare for a ton of salary dump deals at the draft and next offseason.

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10 Oct 2019 10:56:04
I haven’t heard anything official yet. I thought they were just pulling Rockets games. That said, it wouldn’t be a bad thing for the Cavs.

10 Oct 2019 10:56:45
Competitively that is. I’m sure Gilbert would like his money.

10 Oct 2019 14:37:54
Its not official, but reports say some GMs are already game-planning for if it becomes official. Only 8 teams will be below the salary cap with only Atlanta and Memphis having significant amounts of cap space.

Additionally, players on deals set to salary cap (max deal, rookies and league minimum deals) will have future salaries reduced as well.

So maybe Chris Paul and John Wall will become affordable. lol.

10 Oct 2019 16:22:00
Those salaries are set by the cap of the year they sign them. Their salary isn't dictated by the cap of the year they get paid. The only times I've seen that happen was when a player signed a max deal mid season. At that time, the "max" isn't established, so there's not a set amount until July, when the cap is set for the following year.

That's why some guys were severely underpaid for a few years. They signed before the cap boom.

In the end, this will blow over and nothing that extreme will happen.

10 Oct 2019 17:51:57
Perhaps. Just not sure how most players will react to losing 10% of what their projected salary will be next year. So for Lebron that would be $3.9 mil for next year alone. For the length of his contract, that could $8 mil. Now aggreagate that for every player in the league and its probably somewhere near in the $100+ mil category.

So my next curiousity question is can individual players or the player's union file a suit against Morey for the projected salary loss.

11 Oct 2019 15:32:37
But those contracts are set. No one is losing money from their existing contract. That's what I was saying. Future contracts might go down, but it's hard to sue based on future cap and future contracts. It's too slippery of a slope, since no one can guarantee what the cap would be next year anyway.

11 Oct 2019 16:42:24
Salaries are set. My bad. The website I was reading from said max salary was 35% of each years salary cap when its 35% of the initial year +8% raises each following year. As for lost salary or revenue, its not that slippery of a slope as the lost salary is directly tied to the lost revenue which is directly tied to Morey's comment. Now the individual salaries loss will be hard to compute. But the aggregate amount if the players union surs on behalf of the playets will not be. So the owners and players union could probably go after Morey (sort of like the NBA going after Sterling for his comments) .

11 Oct 2019 18:41:05
But Sterling didn’t get sued for money, he got stripped of his ownership. Suing for money is a whole different animal. If Morey could be sued for that, could you sue a guy that retires early because it negatively affects the league? Or sue a star that backs the wrong presidential candidate? Or a player/ team that kneels during the anthem or doesn’t come out? Sue a gay player because that negatively affects advertisement?

Slippery slope.

11 Oct 2019 20:13:16
I don't think you can show a DIRECT relationship between a a player retiring/ coming out and a loss of revenue of the League. However, in Morey's case, there is a DIRECT cause-effect relationship.

Did NFL loses revenue from Kapernick or did they lose revenue over CTE? Both? Neither? How much $$$ on each. Slippery slope exists here.

So I do not see the slope as slippery when it comes to Morey's actions. As for Sterling, show me the loss revenue directly connected by his comments. They "punished" him, but where is Morey's "punishment"?

13 Oct 2019 14:39:11
Morey didn’t do anything illegal, make up a lie or even do something that was against league rules. China overreacting to a tweet isn’t his fault and he has every right to any political beliefs that he wants. What could he be sued for?

13 Oct 2019 21:38:21
Sterling didn't do anything illegal either. He just made comments that offended others. Morey's tweet essentially did the same. Where is Morey's punishment? Talk about a slippery slope.

I believe Morey can be sued because his comment may lead to lost wages by players and lost profits for the owners. Freedom of speech enable people to say things, but it doesn't protect you from the consequences of your words. Morey's tweet may lead to a loss for every player and owner in the league. He should have to reimburse innocent people for those losses.

14 Oct 2019 00:32:30
Sterling was penalized by the league rules. A lawsuit would require a court ruling. That’s the difference.

If the league wanted to fine or suspend or ban Morey, maybe. But there’s no way a lawsuit happens.

14 Oct 2019 03:00:19
Fredman, actually, the league likely couldn’t have gotten Sterling out of the league legally. His wife tricked him into getting doctors appointments where he was diagnosed as having dementia and then she was the only owner who was competent of making the decision to sell the team.

The Chinese are the reason that the NBA could lose money. Morey has no control over what China does. Not to mention, if the CEO of a company runs it poorly and drives it into the ground, he can’t be sued by anyone for their wages. This is just an executive making a miscalculation that led to the company losing money.

14 Oct 2019 19:47:29
So there is no consequence for Morey's words? Then why the blanket "no comment" by the commish and players?

15 Oct 2019 00:12:06
They don’t want to make it worst?

15 Oct 2019 18:07:55
Yeah, they don't want to punish based on a personal opinion that isn't hurtful/ racist/ etc. But they don't want to make things worse.

Also, it looks like this is going to blow over. China isn't going to ban the NBA. So it doesn't look like any financial harm is going to be done.

07 Oct 2019 16:35:25
Wich teams should go in rebuilt mode?

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07 Oct 2019 16:45:48
Minny, Washington (but keep Wall), Detroit, Miami, Toronto, SA.

07 Oct 2019 19:08:20
Raptors, Pistons, wizards, wolves, thunder, spurs.

07 Oct 2019 22:34:48
New York should go in rebuild mode on their rebuild.

08 Oct 2019 02:47:04
For the 4th time Freeman?

09 Oct 2019 16:05:31
Aren't the Thunder already in a rebuild smunro?

09 Oct 2019 23:59:03
Currently i would say Thunder is in more of a retool than rebuild. They could be a sneaky team and slip into that 8 or 7 seed like Clippers last year of they keep the current team and play to win. In my opinion once they trade CP3, Adams, and Gallo then they have officially entered rebuild right now i would say they aren't in full rebuild mode.

10 Oct 2019 01:42:27
Spurs are in a rebuild as well. Just doing it while Derozen and LMA carry the team.

06 Oct 2019 20:59:21
Who is going to start centre for warriors Looney or Cauley-Stein? Also who is starting SF?

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07 Oct 2019 02:32:52
WCS is on the injured list until November, so looney gets the start.

McKinnie at SF?

07 Oct 2019 04:51:03
Or Glenn Robinson.

02 Oct 2019 14:09:45
Whats the most likely to happen?

1) M Porter Jr becomes Rookie of the year.
2) Zion becomes a bust
3)M Conley becomes an all star
4)L Ball makes an all NBA team
5) Utah becomes Champion
6)Westbrook and Harden win the MVP together
7) C Anthony plays in the NBA this year
8) B Simmons develops a descent 3-point shot.
9)The Knicks make the playoffs
10) Golden state misses the playoffs
11) Minnesota trades KAT
12) Wiggins becomes a 20 point scorer
13) LBJ doesn't make the All star game
14)The Clippers keep a team under 50 points

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02 Oct 2019 15:09:44
4&12

Utah will be scary to face in a 7 game series

Wiggins was already a 20 ppg scorer I believe. I can see him doing it again however it might not be efficiently.

02 Oct 2019 15:25:27
I'll just go High/ Medium/ Low I guess:

1) M Porter Jr becomes Rookie of the year.
Medium - that team is too deep.

2) Zion becomes a bust
Medium - No one is a sure thing, especially if you count injuries as "busts".

3)M Conley becomes an all star
Low - The west is too deep, and he's the third best player on his team.

4)L Ball makes an all NBA team
Low - I just don't see him as a top 15 player in the league. How does he pass Curry, Lillard, Harden, Butler, Westbrook, Holiday, McCollum, Simmons, Russell, Kemba, Irving, Beal, Mitchell, Booker, and probably more?

5) Utah becomes Champion
Medium - That's the highest I'd give anyone this year. I don't see a favorite. Utah is going to play amazing defense.

6)Westbrook and Harden win the MVP together
Zero - I think there's a better chance they miss the playoffs.

7) C Anthony plays in the NBA this year
Zero - I don't think he has another chance.
8) B Simmons develops a descent 3-point shot.

Medium - It wouldn't be a new happening. Guys learn to shoot in the league. If decent is low-mid 30's, he could do that this year.

9)The Knicks make the playoffs
Medium - The east is horrible past the top 5 or 6. The Knicks have just enough vets to do it and screw the future of the team.

10) Golden state misses the playoffs
Low - They still have 4 all stars (come all star break) . They're not head and shoulders above everyone else, but they're still probably the most talented starting lineup when healthy.

11) Minnesota trades KAT
High - Long term (next 18 months) I think it will happen. Maybe not this season, but it feel inevitable.

12) Wiggins becomes a 20 point scorer
High - He's done it two of his five years, why not again?

13) LBJ doesn't make the All star game
Medium - If he missed 20+ games again, sure. The west is loaded, if you can't stay healthy, you won't play in the all star game.

14)The Clippers keep a team under 50 points
Low - In the age of scoring, it's hard to see this happening. Maybe against Memphis? But it feel like a really low chance.

Overall most likely: Wiggins, because he's done it 2/ 5 seasons. He won't do it efficiently, but they don't have many other options to score a lot.

02 Oct 2019 17:04:37
4 has zero chance as All-NBA means that Lonzo becomes a top 6 guard in all the NBA (All-Star would be top 15). Better than the following?

Curry Lillard Kyrie Walker Harden Westbrook, Beal

That ain't going to happen.

But I am really feeling 12. 20 points on 30 shots per game.

05 Oct 2019 09:31:14
Decent or descent?
They have opposite meanings.

05 Oct 2019 19:51:46
Doesnt a decent 3pt shot usually have a descent through the hoop snd netting? 🤪.

07 Oct 2019 10:04:33
sorry guys, we can always talk in Dutch or French, my native languages, if you don't understand my English. :-p.

07 Oct 2019 14:12:14
No worries Gasupo. It seemed obvious that it was a "typo". Descent is a noun but was being used as an adjective in the sentence, so most non grammar-persons translated it to decent with no issues.

 


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