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23 May 2020 21:39:31
Magic - Hield

Kings - Gordon

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1.) 24 May 2020 11:30:11
I like it, but does that mean Bagley plays C for the Kings?


2.) 24 May 2020 17:28:16
Orlando needs to add, and not just because the salaries don't work for the trade.


 

 

10 May 2020 16:05:19
Trade in offseason

Kings - Harris

76ers - Hield Bjencia and Joseph

Kings resign Bogdanovic
Kings draft RJ Hampton

Fox/Hampton
Bogdanovic/Bazemore
Barnes/FA
Harris/Parker
Bagley/Len

Simmons/Joseph
Hield/Thybulle
Richardson/GR3
Bjencia/Scott
Embiid/Horford

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1.) 10 May 2020 17:01:02
Too much for overpaid Harris.


2.) 11 May 2020 00:01:37
Hield is overpaid too. This is a win for the Kings.


3.) 11 May 2020 04:58:14
Heild is paid $10 mil less this year (and even lesser in future years as Hield salary decreases every year) thsn Harris. Harris and Hueld's stats is not that different. Rather have the same player one a cheaper deal.


4.) 11 May 2020 07:58:59
Harris > Hield.


5.) 11 May 2020 15:08:10
Phi would do this deal, Kings don't i think.


 

 

22 Mar 2020 23:26:26
Twolves - Simmons
Pelicans - Horford and Twolves 1st
76ers - Holiday Culver Johnson and Nets 1st

Pels draft LaMelo at 3 and Achuiwa at 13
76ers draft Haliburton at 16 and Green at 22

Russell
Okogie
Layman
Simmons
Towns

Lonzo
LaMelo
Ingram
Zion
Horford

Holiday
Richardson
Culver
Harris
Embiid

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1.) 23 Mar 2020 10:39:15
James Johnson has a Players Option for next season. can't be traded until he opts in which normally would be way after the draft.

serious overpaying for Simmons. Pelicans and NO not getting enough for Holiday. It takes a first round pick by itself for someone to take Horford's bad contract so Pelicans are essentially giving Holiday away for nothing.


2.) 23 Mar 2020 13:11:27
It’ll take a first to get off Horford’s contract, but not the #3 pick in the draft. I would trade Holiday for Horford if I got the #3 pick with it. That feels fair.


3.) 23 Mar 2020 15:38:10
Not sure any of the top 3 draft prospects can be better than Holiday so we agree to disagree.


4.) 23 Mar 2020 17:31:02
Fred I disagree holiday for horford and 3rd pick is worth it like bmil said but maybe number six will do at the latest in this draft.


5.) 23 Mar 2020 18:05:43
Fair enough Fred. I’m not basing it on the prospects in this draft at all. I’m basing it on the value of a top 3 pick in general. I know people talk about this draft being weak, but I’ve heard about “weak” and “deep” drafts for years, and I simply don’t think that those projections are consistently right.

Remember when Wiggins and Parker were “the best top of a draft since Lebron and Melo”?


 

 

09 Mar 2020 10:21:17
Mavs - Gordon and Aminu

Magic - THJ Wright and Jackson

Brunson/Barea
Doncic/Curry
Aminu/Finney-Smith
Gordon/MKG
Porzingis/WCS

Fultz/Wright
Fournier/Ross
THJ/Jackson
Isaac/Okeke
Vucevic/Bamba

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1.) 09 Mar 2020 12:14:38
Where are the draft picks that Dallas needs to add?


2.) 29 Mar 2020 02:50:42
Fredman in Ny.


 

 

09 Mar 2020 06:52:20
Kings offseason

Fire Luke Walton

S&T Bogdanovic for Gordon

Trade Barnes for Gay and Mills

Draft Issac Okoro

Fox/Joseph/Mills
Hield/Bazemore
Okoro/Gay
Gordon/Parker/Bjencia
Bagley/Holmes

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1.) 09 Mar 2020 12:30:48
Not going to fire Walton.

Agree with the S&T, but pull Indy into the deal by sending Gordon to Indy and Sac gets Turner.

Not trading Barnes. He has become the team's leader in the club house.

Would love a top 4 pick for Deni Avdija, but will settle with Jaden McDaniel. Be surprised if Okuru lasts to the early teens to be selected by Sacramento. Cassius Stanley in the second round?

Fox/ Joseph
Hield/ James
Barnes/ McDaniel
Bagley/ Bjelica
Turner/ Holmes.


2.) 09 Mar 2020 16:38:03
Fredman team > nba16 team.


 

 

 

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25 Mar 2020 08:01:22
Pick your favorite prospect

Edwards vs Ball
Toppin vs Advija
McDaniels vs Okoro
Anthony vs Haliburton
Mannion vs Hays
Maxey vs Hampton

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22 Feb 2020 22:06:25
Do the Chicago bulls need to start completely over?

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1.) 22 Feb 2020 22:57:12
Yes, absolutely. Keep Markannen, White, and Hutchison, and move everyone else. Even those guys aren’t untouchable, just really solid young guys. But Chicago is two all stars away from contending.


2.) 23 Feb 2020 16:03:45
Starting over suggests that they started at some time. Not 100% sure that is true.


3.) 24 Feb 2020 03:34:18
True fredman. I’ve never understood their moves. Porter and Lavine were never moves that made any sense.


4.) 24 Feb 2020 18:06:28
Toss in the Parker signing which became Porter.


5.) 24 Feb 2020 18:07:02
Trading Butler for Lavine, and Dunn is one thing, but Porter for Jabari Parker was a decent deal. If Porter wasn't injured the Bulls would be better defensively, and also a little better on the perimeter. Don't see that being a bad play short or long term for the Bulls. It's not as if Chicago is a small market paying 2 guys max+ contracts and have only won 20 games? Porter is young enough, and there is time left to flip him for something else. Jabari Parker has next to no value beyond a minimum contract at this point.


6.) 25 Feb 2020 00:40:40
They’re a huge market, paying two non stars borderline star contracts, and winning just enough to not get a good pick. Is that good?

Also, Porter can opt out if he’s sick of losing.

No one is saying they should have kept Parker. A big market overpaying a bad player makes little sense to me. It was a bad signing when it happened.


7.) 25 Feb 2020 09:10:02
"Porter and Lavine were moves that never made any sense"

Where did anybody say Chicago is a small market team?

Flipping Parker for Porter was a decent example of making lemonade. Other than the injuries this season, porter has been pretty productive for Chicago compared to his stint in DC. And Chicago can still probably get something of value in return for him. Not a lot of value, something of value. More than a minium or expiring contract. What's parker worth right now to the league? I'd take Porter over Harrison Barnes if his medical is clear.

49 million for porter and Lavine is extravagant? The cap is 114 next season, and they are a large market. Need to spend the money anyway, or take on a bad contract for picks. Porter is tradable too. Your team that is not to be analyzed by any one but yourself would probably trade Whiteside for him if they could have. With a 1st added too.


8.) 25 Feb 2020 14:52:11
Agree that getting Porter for Parker "helped" the situation. But it did not overcome how bad the Parker signing was. So basically it is still a negative net.


9.) 25 Feb 2020 18:35:15
But Porter also was a move that made them better. When you're a terrible team, does adding a player that added 3-5 wins really make sense? You're just adding a stopgap role player that isn't in the long term plans, that makes the rebuild harder. And as Fred said, the situation was better, but the two moves were overall not good.

I'd absolutely trade Whiteside and a first for Porter, because Portland thinks they're close to competing. Chicago adding guys like that when they have no top end talent makes less sense.


10.) 26 Feb 2020 23:01:36
You think Portland is close to competing, not me. Not now, or in the long term based on the current roster.

Porter would do what for them? Get them to the playoffs maybe to get bounced in the 1st. Sorta like Whiteside is doing already, but not losing a 1st round pick i'm the process.

Portland should covet those 1sts, and pray to the drafting gods. Nobody is trading for Lillard being owed 50 million @ 35. Westbrick is the only poison pill I know of to be traded?


11.) 27 Feb 2020 13:45:45
I never said -I- think Portland is close to competing, I said the franchise thinks they are.

Without Porter they made the conference finals last year. Upgrade Moe Harkless to Porter and they’re a step better.

Whiteside is a negative asset (his stats are ok, but watch him play, he’s bad) and Portland has a better center that is about to come back. That’s why I’d trade Whiteside for Porter.

Portland isn’t trading Lillard. He’s a top 10 player in the league. Why would they trade him?


12.) 27 Feb 2020 14:13:30
Lillard = An athletic Mark Price. To me anyway. Price was a more willing passer, but he also had a team full of help. Super-efficient scorer, poor mans John Stockton with a better jump shot and range.

For those of you old enough to remember the Cavs Vs Bulls in the late 80's early 90's.

I get using the cap dollars and rolling them over on Porter into next season, and trading Whiteside for anything but a loss.

I guess I look at a 1st round late lottery and 25million about the same. The pick could be a total bust, but it could also be a blessing and needed piece for years to come. The guys drafted now are Lillard and Mccollums replacements in 5 years maybe. A lottery selection should be treated dilligently if this was a fluke lottery flirtation due to injuries, like the season GSW just tanked.


 

 

19 Feb 2020 05:43:22
1. Warriors - James Wiseman C
2. Hawks - Anthony Edwards SG
3. Cavs - Obi Toppin F
4. Twolves - Jaden McDaniels F
5. Knicks - LaMelo Ball PG
6. Pistons - Cole Anthony PG
7. Hornets - Daniel Oturu C
8. Bulls - Isaac Okoro SF
9. Wizards - Deni Avdija SF
10. Kings - Precious Achiuwa F
11. Suns - Tyrese Haliburton PG
12. Pels - Nico Mannion PG
13. Spurs - Vernon Carey C
14. Blazers - Josh Green SG
15. Magic - RJ Hampton G
16. Twolves - Theo Maledon PG
17. Celtics - Zeke Nnaji C
18. Bucks - Tyrese Maxey G
19. Mavs - Jay Scrubb SG
20. Thunder - Isiah Stewart C
21. Nets - Jordan Nwora F
22. Nuggets - Aaron Nesmith SG
23. Heat - Killian Hayes PG
24. Jazz - Jalen Smith PF
25. Knicks - Ochai Agbaji
26. Thunder - Reggie Perry PF
27. Celtics - Udoka Azubuike C
28. Raptors - Nick Richards C
29. Lakers - Tre Jones PG
30. Celtics - Mamadi Diakite F

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1.) 19 Feb 2020 20:37:02
Knicks draft Cole Anthony and Nesmsith.
Wolves take Oturu.


2.) 20 Feb 2020 14:49:32
I have a feeling Knicks or Cavs will draft the number one overall pick. and 2nd overall will go to Warriors.


 

 

08 Jan 2020 21:14:03
Dlo for Simmons straight up makes a lot of sense to me. If needed Gsw can add a few low salary players for depth.

Sixers need a shot creator and more spacing

Simmons will benefit tremendously playing with Curry/Thompson

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1.) 09 Jan 2020 00:25:25
Okay, I have had enough of Simmons. Simmons is the Greek Freak with less defensive abilities but more play making abilities.

The difference is that Milwaukee put Giannis as the focal point and built around him with 4 starters who can shoot from distance while still play defense (Lopez is really the key) .

In order for Philly to do this for Simmons, Embiid has to become a perimeter player and not the focus of the team. Good luck with that because it takes Embiid away from what his strengths are. Moving Simmons to any other team requires the new team to make the same commitment. The problem is that there are very few rim protecting, stretch 5s. Even Golden state doesn't really work unless Simmons improves his shot blocking. As soon as looney or WCS is on the court with Simmons, the same problem arises.

I will be completely shocked if Simmons leads a team to a ring with his current style of play.


2.) 09 Jan 2020 02:01:01
Straight up, Simmons is ahead of Russell and money doesn't work. Maybe Simmons and Horford for Russell, Looney and GS pick 2020. Warriors might turn that down maybe.


3.) 09 Jan 2020 05:06:10
Really intetested to see how 76ers play without Embiid in Boston. Horford is probably a better pairing with Simmons than Embiid. 76ers sokution may be to push either Embiid or Simmons to the bench and have them sub for one another.


4.) 09 Jan 2020 15:21:45
I think the Simmons vs Giannis comparison is like a Lillard vs McCollum comparison. Sure, similar overall players, but I don't think talent is on the same level.


5.) 09 Jan 2020 16:04:46
BMiller, I was going for similar "style of play" more than similar "talent level".


 

 

03 Jan 2020 18:14:36
1. ATL - James Wiseman C
2. GSW - Anthony Edwards SG
3. NYK - Lamelo Ball PG
4. WAS - Obi Toppin SF
5. CLE - Jaden McDaniels F
6. NOP - Nico Mannion PG
7. SAC - Deni Avdija SF
8. DET - Cole Anthony PG
9. CHA - Onyeka Okongwu C
10. Min- Tyrese Haliburton PG
11. PHX - Theo Maledon PG
12. CHI - Precious Achiuwa F
13. BOS - Vernon Carey C
14. POR - Zeke Nnaji PF
15. SAS - N'Faly Dante C
16. ORL - RJ Hampton G
17. ATL - Bryan Antonie SG
18. OKC - Jalen Smith PF
19. UTH - Tyrese Maxey G
20. DAL - Josh Green SG
21. BKN - Isaac Okoro F
22. MIL - Jay Scrubb SG
23. Tor - Daniel Oturo C
24. Hou - Tyler Bey SF
25. LAC - Udoka Azubuike C
26. OKC - Jordan Nwora SF
27. MIA - Tre Jones PG
28. BOS - Ochai Agbaji SG
29. LAL - CJ Elleby SF
30. BOS - Paul Reed PF

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1.) 03 Jan 2020 22:11:20
Seriously doubt Hampton and Anthony fall that far.


2.) 03 Jan 2020 22:34:11
Was, Cle, and Sac don’t need PG. Pelicans need more of a shooter/ off ball PG like Mannion or Ball so unless Knicks opt for Anthony over Ball he can slide a bit unless traded up for.


3.) 03 Jan 2020 23:46:10
Hampton is 14-17 in most mocks I have seen.


 

 

 

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12 May 2020 18:52:09
Magic have no use for Markkanen if they keep Isaac Vucevic and Bamba.

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09 Mar 2020 06:53:09
Why would Knicks even trade for both Embiid and Valanciunas?

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08 Mar 2020 11:30:18
I’m pretty sure every player in the starting lineup is playing their natural position?

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05 Mar 2020 01:03:48
Shot* creator.

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19 Feb 2020 16:40:30
Salary?

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