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15 May 2021 15:46:46
Raptors - Turner and Rivers
- Draft Scottie Barnes
- Resign Lowry
Nuggets - FVV
- Draft Greg Brown
Pacers - Gordon Bembry and Tor 2nd
- Draft Jalen Johnson
Lowry/Flynn
Trent/Rivers
OG/Barnes
Siakam/Boucher
Turner/Baynes
FVV/Morris
Murray/Dozier
MPJ/Barton
Green/Brown
Jokic/Bol Bol
Brogdon/Holiday
Levert/Holiday
Warren/Lamb
Gordon/Johnson
Sabonis/Bitadze
1.) 15 May 2021 18:55:44
So I believer that nuggets piggyback off the pacers when his position fvv is better at position than Gordon and turner.
2.) 15 May 2021 20:16:22
Rivers is a free agent, and I'd rather keep Bembry anyways. but why would you want to exercise Baynes' option instead of signing Birch. I think I'd rather have Gillespie as my backup 5 than Baynes. he's done.
14 May 2021 19:07:45
Celtics - Towns and Winslow
Grizzlies - Russell
Wolves - Brown R.Williams Thompson Clarke Melton Mem 1st (via Utah) and 2 1sts from Boston
Kemba/Pritchard
Smart/Langford
Tatum/Neismith
G.Williams/Ojeleye
Towns/Fall
Morant/Jones
Russell/Allen
Brooks/Bane
Jackson/Anderson
Valanciunas/Tillman
Rubio/Melton
Edwards/Beasley
Brown/Culver
Clarke/Reid
R.Williams/Thompson
- Take Mobley if they get their 1st
1.) 14 May 2021 21:41:47
How about sending Culver to Boston too?
2.) 15 May 2021 03:02:27
Good trade. Values all seem pretty fair. I doubt it would ever materialize given the way Boston is.
3.) 15 May 2021 18:59:55
Good trade as far as talent goes, but now weaken wolves at their strength and you strengthen where they are already stacked at.
4.) 15 May 2021 20:39:38
Wolves aren’t strong at SF or PF, they upgrade here especially defense. Edwards is best at SG.
5.) 15 May 2021 20:54:05
I just watched KAT again today and I don't know about giving up Brown for him. He's practically invisible on D and just exists to take shots. I'm not crazy about him despite his talent.
6.) 16 May 2021 13:43:11
Ainge made a huge mistake not making a deal with Indiana for Turner and McDermott.
I see them getting bounced in 1st round if they make through the play in.
Ownership needs to disassemble the train wreak that's on the existing track.
Trade Stevens to Pacers.
Bring on Mark Jackson if he has any interest.
Trade Brown and Smart to Pacers for Turner and McDermott.
7.) 16 May 2021 23:26:08
Brown is worth more than Turner and Doug alone.
8.) 17 May 2021 15:35:24
the deal was Turner and mcdermott for hayward. not brown.
9.) 17 May 2021 16:03:34
I know what the deal was with Indy.
Brown and Smart for Turner and McDermott was to see how many feathers it would ruffle. (not as many as I thought)
They need a coach who will wake them up, and Jackson is the one.
They'll need to trade Brown and Smart or Walker to get quality player (s) .
13 May 2021 01:12:14
Wizards - Turner
Pacers - Bertans and Avdija
Hornets - Bryant
Wizards - Monk (s&t)
Draft Corey Kispert
Westbrook/Smith
Beal/Monk
Kispert/Hutchinson
Hachimura/Gafford
Turner/Lopez
1.) 13 May 2021 05:46:49
Pretty sure Pacers pass on that trade for Turner.
2.) 13 May 2021 10:58:38
Why would they pass there getting a prospect with lots of potential and there not going to win with Turner but this ain’t giving him away. Give them a player they can keep and develop.
3.) 13 May 2021 15:45:07
Maybe Pacers would pass because they feel they can get a more attractive offer from another team.
12 May 2021 22:09:17
Pistons - DLo and Reid
Draft Green
Wolves - Grant Doumboya and Plumlee
Draft Cade/Suggs
Cunningham/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley/Culver
McDaniels/Doumboya
Grant/Hernangomez
Towns/Plumlee
Hayes/Lee
Dlo/Mcgruder
Green/Jackson
Bey/Reid
Stewart/Okafor
1.) 13 May 2021 04:50:17
Horrible for detriot. Small Ball don't work.
2.) 13 May 2021 05:48:07
pretty sure Detroit sees Grant>DLo so they will pass on this.
3.) 13 May 2021 11:00:28
Grant not better then dlo. grant just putting up good numbers on a sorry team which lead to no wins.
4.) 13 May 2021 13:18:00
And DLo is putting up good numbers on a sorry team which leads to no wins as well.
5.) 13 May 2021 16:00:06
Dlo hurt and he was an all star last time he stayed healthy and was the main guy on the nets when they went to playoffs.
6.) 13 May 2021 19:01:48
Thought good stats/ numbers don’t matter on bottom team Fred?
7.) 13 May 2021 20:03:43
Actually, NBA16, you are misrepresenting what the other discussion was about. It is not "good stats don't matter on a bottom team". It was "good stats are inflated on a bottom team". 2 completely different discussions. Kindly stop with the misinformation campaign, please.
8.) 14 May 2021 04:54:43
Grant is a 2 way player dlo is not.
9.) 14 May 2021 11:42:47
It’s the same thing 😂 majority players put up inflated numbers on bad teams that don’t translate to “wins” that they would never put up on a team that contends or make playoffs. That’s why people use the rearm “empty stats”.
10.) 14 May 2021 18:50:20
Grant is a two way player but dlo still better and achieved more.
11.) 14 May 2021 18:53:02
Term* keyboard spasm lol.
11 May 2021 20:26:45
Best KAT packages?
Warriors - Wiseman Wiggins and 2/3 1sts (including own pick back)
Knicks - RJ Robinson and both 21 1sts
Thunder - Bazley Maledon and 4 1sts
1.) 12 May 2021 03:54:57
It’s got to be OKC.
2.) 12 May 2021 06:56:13
Right now, Warriors offer is the best due to the pick involve and of course Wiseman to replace KAT at center.
3.) 12 May 2021 10:46:03
Either Knicks or GS.
4.) 12 May 2021 12:50:45
I think if kat gets traded knicks get DLo for two firsts so wolves could get gsw and knicks offer.
5.) 12 May 2021 22:17:59
Jaylen Brown, Robert Williams, and a 1st?
Not sure I'd want Boston to do it, just throwing it out there.
6.) 13 May 2021 15:53:42
Nightcap, that would be a good conversation starting point convo, but Wolves and Celtics would probably expand that trade idea to include a third team where Minny gets more value as well as Boston.
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14 May 2021 13:50:35
Since Shizzee thinks majority of this years draft prospects compares to Hall of famers
Magic - Barrett
Knicks - #8 (via Bulls)
Wizards - Quickley
Knicks - #11
Spurs - Robinson
Knicks - #12
Here you go shizzee, 5 1st rounders for your future 5 hall of famers including your "CP3 with Morant athleticism" (Mitchell) and "future top 5 rim defender of all time with Mutombo & Gobert" (Badji)
Should win multiple rings
1.) 16 May 2021 22:27:31
I'm glad i'm on your mind.
I would trade RJ Barrett to the Magic for Davion Mitchell-5th, if we can land Kawhi Leonard
Trade future picks for Marcus Morris he played great here should of never been traded.
Don't need to trade anyone for Badji we have 2 1st.
Mitchell/ Rose/ Quickley
Bullock/ Ellington/ Duarte-32
Leonard/ Burks/ Juzang-21
Randle/ Morris/ Toppin
Noel/ Robinson/ Badji-24.
2.) 17 May 2021 16:10:17
Terrible.
12 May 2021 03:42:47
Where does MPJ rank on your MIP list?
Has to be top 3
Year 1
9/5/1 on 51/42
Year 2
19/7/1 on 55/45
1.) 12 May 2021 05:29:59
behind Randle and Jeremi Grant at least. Probably would put Christian Wood slightly ahead of MPJ.
2.) 12 May 2021 12:25:01
Boucher has had similar progressions. 7/ 5/ 0 on 47/ 32/ 78 to 14/ 7/ 1 on 51/ 38/ 71, as well as doubling his blocked shots.
3.) 12 May 2021 14:00:50
He doesn’t make the list for me. He was clearly making the leap the second half of last year (averaged 22 and 9 in the bubble) .
I also just don’t like second year players in the running for MIP. MIP is for abnormal jump in career arc. This feels slightly above Porter’s expected career arc, not way over.
4.) 12 May 2021 15:55:56
Idk how y’all don’t put him top 3. I can put Randle ahead of him. All the other players are putting up inflated numbers on the worst teams in basketball. MPJ has been the 2nd option since Murray and has been playing amazing. 2nd year players as 2nd option for a top 4 West team.
Randle
MPJ
Grant
Brown
Wood.
5.) 12 May 2021 16:00:21
Outside of Ingram last year the past 6/ 7 MIP players were on a playoff team. Not bottom of the nba with inflated stats.
6.) 12 May 2021 19:04:49
I think Randle deserves it as no one was expecting him to make that leap. Boucher, MPJ, Grant's etc., were all to some extent expected.
7.) 12 May 2021 19:17:03
@nba16. You make an assumption that players on non-playoff teams=inflated stats.
Was Lebron's stats 2 years ago "inflated" when the Lakers were not in the playoffs? Not likely since they fall into line with stats from previous and post playoff seasons.
8.) 12 May 2021 21:43:20
How can Lebron have inflated stats? His stats are the same every year lolll, they didn’t improve that year.
9.) 13 May 2021 01:00:44
I assumption is players on bottom 5 teams can have inflated stats yes.
10.) 13 May 2021 05:31:05
@NBA16. So are SGA's stats this year (bottom 5 team) "inflated" compared to last year's stats (playoff team)? I would say no because the departure of Chris Paul has probably created more opportunities this season for SGA. Additionally, if you dive into the numbers, you will see that SGA's shooting percentages significantly increased over the last season which then leads to a significant increase in points scored. SGA stats "inflated" not because he was on a bottom 5 team, but because SGA performed better given more opportunity.
And isn't that pretty much the definition of "improvement"?
Your assumption is based in generalization which is just lazy reasoning/ analysis. You have to delve into each players stats to determine the true reason for their "improvement". Some will fit your definition of "inflated" (more shots/ mins at a lower shooting percentage or lower efficiency? ), some definitely will not.
But I get it. Doing research is not "fun" for you. SMH.
11.) 13 May 2021 11:04:23
No there health is the difference. Lebron got hurt his first year in la and sga Is hurt now. So you can’t compare someone good year to a hurt year.
12.) 13 May 2021 13:09:19
Yes Fredman I don’t think anyone cares about this website much to research everything before every post😂 you can actually argue SGA stats are inflated. They lost 2 of their playmakers/ shotcreators (CP3 and Schroder) The thunder is filled with all rookies or young players. SGA is the only proven player (Dort wasn’t proven on the offensive end) SGA is the only threat on that thunder team. His %’s look better because he has only played 35 games this season. Numbers look better in smaller game samples. Thunder has not other shot creators, Pistons has no other shot creators (Bey is spot up)
13.) 13 May 2021 13:52:41
Fred, insulting II and ddrainr I can understand, but insulting NBA16 is going too far.
14.) 13 May 2021 15:55:31
Just a friendly argument Darry.
15.) 13 May 2021 17:57:14
I know, just a friendly joke too xD.
16.) 13 May 2021 18:55:37
Also inflated numbers are usually players who are the number 1 options on bottom tier teams who would usually just be a 2-4 option on playoff teams.
17.) 13 May 2021 20:11:36
@NBA16. Now you are trying to compare apples and oranges. So Lebron's current numbers become "inflated" the moment he moves to a team and becomes the 3rd option? Harden's Houston stats are "inflated" now that Harden is not the primary option in Brooklyn?
Perhaps you are not being very clear on what are the requirements to be classified as "inflated" as well as the requirements to be classified as "improvement".
18.) 13 May 2021 23:06:20
I don’t understand where you’re coming from with that comment. Superstars like Lebron and Harden can never have inflated numbers? They’re always contending. They have the same stats every year pretty much. Difference between being a top 3 option with the other two options being all star players and being a top option on a bottom tier team with your other “top 2 options” being rookies or above average players. Grant doesn’t average his stats on a playoff team (as you see by his years with the Nuggest) has he improved? Yes but not nearly as much as his stats suggest, he just puts up a ton more shots being the number 1 option on a horrible team.
11 May 2021 14:00:56
Let's see if me and Freeman's team can make a deal
Kings get pick 3 in lottery
Cade/Mobley are gone
Take Green at 3
Kings - Valanciunas Melton Anderson and 2nds (might can add Utah's 1st instead)
- Gets their big man and 2 really good bench players for a depth needing team. Most likely
Grizzlies - Hield and Bagley
- Gets their 2nd scorer. Bagley can potentially reach his potential in new change. Would fit good with JJJ & Clarke with their defense abilities
Morant/Jones
Hield/Allen
Brooks/Bane/Winslow
JJJ/Clarke
Bagley/Tilman
Fox/Wright
Haliburton/Melton
Green/Anderson
Barnes/Harkless
Valanciunas/Whiteside
1.) 11 May 2021 15:02:18
Meant to put most likely won’t pick up Bagleys option anyways*.
2.) 11 May 2021 15:58:16
Kings would most likely trade down from #3 (OKC or ORL 2 picks) or take Suggs and package Halliburton and Wright for a quality big/ picks.
05 May 2021 02:32:55
When Lonzo plays with confidence like tonight, it flashes that superstar talent everyone thought of while he was in HS/College
Hopefully he can find that confidence every game and coaches let him loose
1.) 05 May 2021 07:25:34
So glad to see him finally bloom. Maybe his brother's performances have something to do with this.
2.) 05 May 2021 13:07:59
maybe he's now been playing against grown men as long as lamelo has and has become a serious nba threat. sometimes they just need time to get used to the competition.
21 Apr 2021 01:51:20
1. Rockets - Cunningham PG/SF
- Can start right away at SF with his size until wall expires. Cade/KPJ is a great future backcourt
2. Wolves - Suggs PG
- Suggs gives the Wolves a great playmaker and defender. Trade Dlo for PF
3. Pistons - Mobley C
- Pistons get their building block and franchise player
4. Magic - Green SG/SF
- Green can become a future go to scorer for Magic
5. Thunder - Kuminga
- Kuminga add even more defense on the wing as well as good scoring. Move SGA to PG
6. Cavs - Barnes SF/PF
- Cavs get another versatile forward and one who can become a secondary playmaker
7. Kings - Jones C
- Kings add a young center that show promise to stretch the floor and protect rim
8. Raptors - Johnson SG
- Raps move FVV to PG and get a nice fit alongside him for the future
9. Magic - Johnson SF/PF
- Magic gets more forward depth since losing Gordon and OPJ to FA
10. Wizards - Mitchell PG
- Gets future PG
11. Pelicans - Bouknight SG
- Upgrades at SG over Redick and Hart
12. Pacers - Moody SG/SF
- Adds great 3&D player to fit in between Brogdon & Levert
13. Spurs - Garuba PF/C
- Spurs desperately need some promising big man depth
14. Warriors - Wagner SF/PF
- Warriors add a good 3&D player to replace Oubre
1.) 21 Apr 2021 05:39:34
Agree with most of this. Was thinking Kispert instead of Wagner to the Warriors, but I could see it the other way as well.
Spurs in that tough spot of selecting between Garuba, Sengun or Isaiah Jackson (not overly impressed with these player personally) . Probably top candidate to trade down (Knicks 2 firsts? )
2.) 21 Apr 2021 12:08:26
VanVleet has honestly sucked at PG this year. He works better as an off-ball shooter.
16 May 2021 23:26:08
Brown is worth more than Turner and Doug alone.
15 May 2021 20:39:38
Wolves aren’t strong at SF or PF, they upgrade here especially defense. Edwards is best at SG.
14 May 2021 18:53:02
Term* keyboard spasm lol.
14 May 2021 11:42:47
It’s the same thing 😂 majority players put up inflated numbers on bad teams that don’t translate to “wins” that they would never put up on a team that contends or make playoffs. That’s why people use the rearm “empty stats”.
13 May 2021 19:01:48
Thought good stats/ numbers don’t matter on bottom team Fred?