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27 Jul 2019 22:13:44
Wolves trade Wiggins, Dieng, lottery protected 2020 1st (top 4 protected in 2021, unprotected in 2022) to Charlotte for Batum and Biyombo.

Minnesota gets cap space each of the next 2 summers. Charlotte takes a chance of Wiggins and gets a future 1st round pick.


1.) 28 Jul 2019 19:34:05
I think Charlotte would need another 1st.

2.) 30 Jul 2019 13:48:27
MIN needs picks more than future cap space.



02 Jul 2019 15:06:12
Say next summer Towns requests a trade from the Timberwolves. How about this:

Golden State gets Covington
New York gets Towns and Russell
Minnesota gets Poole, Robinson, Barrett, Knicks 2020 1st round pick (probably top 5), Knicks 2022 and 2024 1st round picks, and both Dallas 1st round picks that the Knicks have.


1.) 02 Jul 2019 16:22:15
GS only gets Covington out of Russell? Seems really light. I'd think Robinson (if he continues to progress) or both Dallas picks would need to go to GS.

2.) 02 Jul 2019 16:27:11
I don't know. Kinda seeing a Russell for Roco+Deing deal.

3.) 02 Jul 2019 17:21:04
An all star (even a lower tier one) for a moderate role player and a horrible contract? Why not just keep Russell if that's the case?

Maybe I'm just not that high on Covington as other are, but I think Russell and McCollum are similar tier players. And if Portland considered a Covington and Dieng for McCollum swap I'd consider burning the Moda Center to the ground.

Same with Heild or Fox. Would you consider either of them for Covington? I think they're comparable to Russell, and I think a Heild or Fox swap with Covington would be a horrible swap.

4.) 02 Jul 2019 18:13:27
If Golden State re-signs Draymond, they will be hard capped for the foreseeable future. Meaning they can only add via the draft and minimum contracts. Swapping Russell for Covington not only helps them with financial flexibility, hey brings all NBA defense with him.

If Golden State does try to trade Russell, they won't find a better player who is on a cheaper contract.

5.) 02 Jul 2019 18:57:03
I think GS can use Deing better than Minny has done. Yea, the numbers aren't "great", but its not like GS has a ton of talented big men.

6.) 02 Jul 2019 21:26:58
Is Dieng a talented big man? I think if he were a free agent this year, he'd be a min level guy. I think I'd take Tolliver (who just signed for min) over Dieng. They should be bringing back Jordan Bell, who I'd probably take over Dieng.

And again carl, I think I don't think as highly of Covington as you. They might not be able to find a better player for that little money, but I think they can get more value out of Russel than that. If Saric was still in Minny, I think those two for Russell would have been a more interesting trade.



27 Jun 2019 02:56:09
Apparently a Cleveland fan thinks this is a fair trade. This was posted on a Timberwolves fan site.

Portland gets Love
Minnesota gets Leonard, Harmless, Zizic, Little, and a 1st from Portland
Cleveland gets Wiggins, Covington, and 3 1sts from Minnesota

What do you think?


1.) 27 Jun 2019 13:49:08
Seems like a lot from Portland. Two firsts and they increase their payroll/ luxury tax is a heavy price for Love.

2.) 27 Jun 2019 16:00:55
It’s plausible. I think some of the moving pieces could be a little different to make it better for everyone and/ or a 4th team could be added, but it’s decent.



27 Feb 2019 21:13:46
New Orleans rebuild plan.

Trade Anthony Davis to New York for their 2019 1st, both future Dallas 1st round picks, a future Knicks 1st round pick, Mitchell Robinson, and Dennis Smith Jr.

Then, trade Jrue Holiday to Phoenix for their 2019 1st, Mikal Bridges, and Elie Okobo.

The Pelicans now have 3 top 10 picks and 4 talented young players to build around.


1.) 27 Feb 2019 21:37:58
It could happen, Holiday with Booker isn't appealing, or a top 3 pick for a SG that shoots 32% from 3. It looks like a good way to load up the team, and then sell. Seattle resembled this in its last days.

2.) 27 Feb 2019 22:03:14
Part one i could easily see happening. Not so much with Holiday.

3.) 27 Feb 2019 23:15:11
If 2019 is Zion, we give you Knox Ntilikina over Mitchell.

Irving/ Mudiay
Trier/ Jenkins
Durant/ Dotson
Davis/ Ellenson
Jordan/ Robinson.



20 Feb 2019 09:56:59
Chicago seems enamored with Andrew Wiggins. They have tried to acquire him several times. So, he is a trade that gets him to Chicago that helps both teams.

Chicago gets Wiggins and Minnesota's 2019 1st

Minnesota gets LaVine, Hutchinson, and Memphis' 2nd round pick that Chicago owns

Chicago gets they player they have wanted and can pair him with Porter to give Chicago great length on the wing while getting another 1st round pick for their rebuild.

Minnesota gets back LaVine, who is a better shooter and is on a better contract than Wiggins. Hutchinson adds depth to the wing for Minnesota.


1.) 20 Feb 2019 12:04:55
Traded for porter already.

2.) 20 Feb 2019 13:26:35
Wiggins has always played better at SG.

3.) 20 Feb 2019 14:50:04
I don't see the logic in trading Levine for Wiggins. you even stated Levine is a better shooter and on a better contract. If they're going after him i could see it being something along the lines of Dunn, Feliciano, Hutchinson and protected future 1st (or two 2nds) . Levine, Wiggins, Porter Jr, Markkanen, Carter, plus top pick in this years draft. Gives them a lot of talent and flexibility. Levine plays better at the 1.

4.) 20 Feb 2019 16:10:46
Wiggins has played at SG a few times this season and they lost every game. Boylen would run him out of town faster than Parker.

5.) 20 Feb 2019 16:40:59
Wiggins has played a lot of SG when Covington has been healthy. And I think the Wolves won more than they lost.

6.) 20 Feb 2019 16:49:40
Wiggins is bad and expensive. The only way he gets traded is if the Wolves take on a lot of bad salary or give up picks. They aren’t getting anything positive back in a Wiggins trade.

7.) 20 Feb 2019 17:31:00
Wiggins good games don't translate into wins at any position. What his starting position is listed @ and what positions he occupies during games is a skewed stat carl006. Team totals and garbage time included is another one often not separated defined.

8.) 20 Feb 2019 17:42:28
Carlos wiggens is worth 15 mil not 20 definitely not worth 30.




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01 Jul 2018 16:30:41
Now that Minnesota has re-signed Rose, I think they should do the same with Bjelica.

And as much as I would like for them to move Wiggins, I just don't see it happening.

One free agent I would like them to bring in is James Ennis. More of a 3 who can also play small ball 4, would be a nice addition for the Wolves.

Drafting Okogie and KBD, re-signing Rose and Bjelica, and bringing in Ennis would go a long way to improving Minnesota's bench.




30 Apr 2018 15:20:57
What do you think is a realistic trade for Andrew Wiggins? I know he probably has some value, given his age and potential upside that is still there. But his contract and lack of improvement have hurt him. But he has proven that he can be a lead scorer and sometimes plays good defense.

A few teams that he could be traded to:

Miami, but only as part of a complex three or more team trade
Charlotte, maybe in a swap for Batum, since they have equally bad contracts, but Charlotte would have to offer Minnesota something because of Batum's injury concern.
New York, they are always looking for a star type player, and Wiggins, even with his issues, is close to a star level player.
Brooklyn, would give them a ready made lead scorer and young talent, since they have not had their top pick for 3 years and have missed out on a lot of top level young talent
Orlando, both Wiggins and Orlando might need a fresh start
Sacramento, they could use a go to scorer and Wiggins can be that

What do you think?


1.) 30 Apr 2018 15:51:37
I think it might be hard for Minnesota to get equal value back for him, but teams that could make some sense imo are Detroit, Miami, New Orleans, Indy, and Portland.

Detroit could offer Griffin or find a 3 way trade for Drummond.
Miami could offer something like Winslow, Richardson and Olynyk.
New Orleans could offer Hill, Mirotic and maybe some combination of picks and younger players.
Indy could offer some cap savings, picks and role players.
Portland could offer McCollum, but would probably need more back than just Wiggins.

2.) 01 May 2018 00:55:40
How about just hold on to him and fire thibedou then trade jimmy for a 3 point shooter and a pick cause jimmy is not staying in Minnesota and if he does that team is a first round exit every time but if you trade Wiggins what incentive does kat have to stay. butler for Mccollum something along that.



17 May 2017 14:37:00
If Minnesota wanted to trade Wiggins, how high of a pick to you think they could get in this years draft?


1.) 17 May 2017 14:46:44
1st overall plus more.

2.) 17 May 2017 17:23:54
Um. no rkenne. just no.

Wiggins is starting to look like far less than what people made him out to be. The problem is, while he is a pretty solid scorer, at this point, that appears to be it. He is actually a negative on the defensive end. He doesn't rebound particularly well and he isn't much of a passer.

And he is already completed his third year. I don't know how much more complete of a player he will become. If he was in this draft and you knew this is where he would be after year 3, I see him going 3-7.

Absolutely not worth the 1st overall and more. Just stop.

3.) 17 May 2017 22:56:47
Wiggins hasn't been and doesn't project to be the heir to Lebron like some projected him to be coming out of Kansas and has been considerably worse on the defensive end than many thought but dude is still only 22 and one of the top prospects in the league. He has been extremely healthy (playing in all but one game in his first 3 years) and has scored over 20 ppg his past two seasons. He also made a big jump this past season improving his 3pt % from 30% to a respectable 35.6%. Issue is he doesn't do much else besides scoring with only 4 double doubles in his entire career.

I see no reason why Twolves would want to trade Wiggins for a pick in this years draft but for point of reference Jackson has been heavily compared to him and many regard him as 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the draft. You have to factor in the unknown factor (Jackson could be better than expected or much worse than expected) and the contract situation as well as the adjustment period and age in the value. If Wiggins was in this draft I think he'd be minimally #4 pick and maybe as high as #2 behind Fultz due to the increasing importance of point guards and shooters in today's game.

However, for it to make sense for Twolves to trade him they'd want #1 plus more since Twolves already have a promising team and with KAT they don't need Wiggins to be the next Lebron for them to be successful. There is always the risk that whomever they trade him for is not as good (Wiggins has been pretty darn good thus far) or worst a complete bust so they'd have to be compensated for that.

I'm not sure Celtics would be willing to do that (although maybe they would since Wiggins could help them to win right now and still keep the future bright while Fultz it remains to be seen if he can have an immediate impact) .



13 Apr 2017 15:45:04
Timberwolves off season.

Pek takes a medical retirement so his salary doesn't count for next year.
Waive Jordan Hill and his non guaranteed contract for next year.
Let Rush, Muhammad, Payne, and Casspi leave via free agency.

Trade Andrew Wiggins, Cole Aldrich, and no 6 (or 7) pick to Chicago for Jimmy Butler and 15 (or 16) pick.

Sign Serge Ibaka to a max deal and Andre Roberson to a deal.

Rubio/ Jones
LaVine/ Dunn
Butler/ Roberson
Ibaka/ Bjelica
Towns/ Deing.


1.) 13 Apr 2017 16:46:12
The rest of the core fits wiggins time line. His ceiling is probably higher than Butler's. I'm not sure if they trade Wiggins for Butler straight up let alone adding the pick.

2.) 14 Apr 2017 01:14:13
Trading Wiggins for Butler could make some sense but I wouldn't give up Twolves pick too (I don't think Bulls pick justifies it since big drop-off in talent after 11 imo) . I'd swap LaVine in for Wiggins and potentially do this trade. I believe Bulls wanted LaVine and pick that end up as Dunn for Butler last summer so maybe it could work. Losing LaVine's shooting will hurt a lot tho especially with Rubio and Dunn both poor 3pt shooters although Wiggins improved to a respectable 36% this season. I could see Thibs however pushing hard to get his man Butler back.

If I'm Twolves I'd probably just stick with what they have especially when Issac or worst case Markkanen will be available with their lotto pick. Issac would be a scary pf on the team with his versatility and ability to stretch the floor and play defense.



18 Jan 2017 03:04:06
I don't want Minnesota to trade Rubio, but Thibs seems hell bent on doing so. Sacramento seems the likely destination.

So, Sacramento gets Ricky Rubio and Shabazz Muhammad.

Minnesota gets Darren Collison, Anthony Tolliver, Malachi Richardson, and a future 1st round pick.


1.) 18 Jan 2017 12:13:20
I think Sacramento would only offer R Gay and Collison.

2.) 18 Jan 2017 16:03:17
They could offer McLemore too

3.) 18 Jan 2017 16:04:53
I'd like to see this
Twolves get Afflalo, Collison, and McLemore
Kings get Rubio and Muhammad




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17 Oct 2019 23:17:50
Covington is better overall than Russell, plus on a great deal. And Teague is a decent PG on an expiring deal. And you want the Wolves to give up a 1st round pick on top of that.

No. Just no.




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24 Sep 2019 20:34:04
And this helps Washington how? They should be acquiring assets, not trading them away. That's why I think they should trade Beal.




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23 Sep 2019 21:21:56
Minnesota isn't trading 3 1st round picks to swap out one bad contract for another bad contract. Booker isn't that much better than Wiggins.




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15 Sep 2019 20:33:30
NBA16 - Garland and Sexton or Garland and another future 1st round pick.




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08 Sep 2019 19:31:57
Not a chance Minnesota trades for CP3. I would rather have Teague at PG, with his expiring contract, over CP3.

Plus, adding CP3 destroys any cap space for Minnesota. Even if they did this trade, they wouldn't have any cap space to add anyone plus are down a 1st round pick.

Minnesota is better off waiting out Teague and Dieng, which would give them cap flexibility, and then draft smart. Maybe they finally get some lottery luck for a change.





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