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13 May 2021 05:41:33
Pelicans let Lonzo Ball walk and draft Davion Mitchell at #9?


1.) 13 May 2021 12:21:51
I think they'd rather S&T him.

2.) 14 May 2021 19:13:05
I think their best option is keep Ball. And package two firsts and Bledsoe for a Wing.



24 Mar 2021 22:52:47
According to SI.

Noting that the Celtics seem poised to use “some or all of its $28.5 million trade exception” generated by the departure of veteran forward Gordon Hayward in the offseason, Mannix relates that the team has “swapped offers with Orlando and have shown a willingness to deal All Defensive team guard Marcus Smart” to the likely chagrin of many fans.


1.) 25 Mar 2021 10:29:13
I don't buy Smart involved in a Gordon trade unless there's a 3rd team involved. Wouldn't the value of Gordon and Smart be about equal? If it was a straight up trade, it's a lateral move for Boston, and I would think Orlando's wish list would be shooting, a 3, and picks.

2.) 25 Mar 2021 13:20:40
Value is probably not equal based upon rosters. I really think that Boston needs to do something about having Tatum and Brown on the wings instead of trying to play at the 4. Getting Gordon (or Barnes) and putting them at the four "balances" the starting lineup better.

I get what Smart brings to the team, but being able to bring in a "starter" with a longer contract for a "bench" player is almost always a smarter move.

3.) 25 Mar 2021 13:22:29
Also, I think Orlando wants "assets" over the trade exception created by sending Gordon's salary to Boston.

4.) 25 Mar 2021 19:40:11
Gordon's and Smart's contracts are the same length and Smart plays starters minutes, without looking, maybe more minutes than Gordon.



22 Mar 2021 22:28:51
Assuming that the Kings can get the following draft capital for players.

2023 second from Lakers for Whiteside
2021 second from NY via Philly for Bjelica
2021 first from Toronto for Holmes

Then the Kings send all this draft capital to Houston along with Bagley + Joseph (partial guaranteed next year) + Parker (expiring) for Gordon + Wood.

Fox/ Halliburton

If Houston is serious about trying to dump Gordon's future salary. Plus, Wood is a perfect match to build around Fox and Halliburton.


1.) 23 Mar 2021 06:58:45
Rivers for Bjelica.



22 Mar 2021 21:59:14
The Sacramento Kings have made the No. 2 pick in the 2018 NBA draft available for a trade, with the Kings recently being turned down by the Detroit Pistons, having offered Bagley III for promising rookie Saddiq Bey, league sources told Yahoo Sports.


1.) 23 Mar 2021 07:00:28
Bagley is defensively top 5 worst defenders at his position.



19 Mar 2021 11:54:39
Report: Raptors turned down Powell-for-Drummond trade offer from Cavs.


1.) 19 Mar 2021 12:18:28
Powell has been our leading scorer in the past few games. He has a well rounded game and plays excellent defense. Not going to give him for I-don't-wanna-play Drummond.

2.) 19 Mar 2021 15:28:53
I'm not sure it means much other than the Raptors think its a better team with Powell in the lineup than with Drummond. It really doesn't say anything about whether the Raps want to resign Powell or not, because the return just isn't worthwhile anyway.
His defense is actually what might keep Toronto from giving him the money another team might offer in the offseason. That and what to do with Lowry. I don't see Toronto being able to keep both into next year.

3.) 19 Mar 2021 17:18:35
Nurse likes his big to be able to stretch the floor.

4.) 20 Mar 2021 13:03:16
I thought it more a statement on Drummonds "low" trade value.




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01 May 2021 10:47:09
Where is all your trolling at now, II?

Full strength Lakers couldn't beat the lowly Kings missing Fox and Barnes.


1.) 01 May 2021 15:14:09
Kings still not in play offs. Every garbage can get a steak.

2.) 01 May 2021 16:16:38
and every steak can be garbage as well.

3.) 02 May 2021 00:43:39
Kings are garbage though.

4.) 02 May 2021 06:15:26
ll Lakers are on their way to the play in tourney. I know they can win that but please stop this, you can jinx them.

5.) 02 May 2021 17:38:20
Psiphon and the kings suck.

6.) 03 May 2021 11:55:40
II is the definition of salty lmao.

7.) 03 May 2021 12:59:14
Double Whammy on the Lakers! Just kidding, but one Whammy will work.

8.) 03 May 2021 20:43:11
There plenty games left Lakers got this even if they lose the next too that’s the chemistry they need.

9.) 03 May 2021 21:31:33
ll what's wrong with you. Lakers will get more hater because of you lmao.

10.) 04 May 2021 18:47:00
This just a laker hater sight go on the facebook sights and lakers are main topic everyday.



21 Apr 2021 15:40:46
Chances that Doncic gets frustrated with the Mavs and just takes his 5th-year Qualifying Option to leave as a UFA?

I am going to say "small" like 25%. But it would be interesting and possibly be a shockwave throughout the league.


1.) 21 Apr 2021 16:11:20
That'd be surprising.

2.) 21 Apr 2021 16:33:10
I see Zion doing that before luka.

3.) 21 Apr 2021 17:19:25
II, I was thinking about Zion as well, but went with Luka first because he hits that 5th year a year before Zion does. Also, considered that it is hard to be frustrated with a team when Zion is the one that has missed quite a few games so far in his young career.

Also, don't see Ja leaving Memphis anytime soon.

4.) 21 Apr 2021 17:49:46
i think little chance, unless Dallas fails to make the playoffs

I can't see Zion leaving, he already had some injurys and NO has enough picks to get extra talent.

5.) 21 Apr 2021 18:49:10
I have a hard time believing he gives away ~25 million for that year. It’s hard to turn down 200 million when his career earnings are 32.

6.) 21 Apr 2021 21:33:55
BMiller, the QO would be $13 mil so its really a turn down of $12 mil to be "free". He can make that up in "local sponsorship" if he were to go to say NYC.

If Mavs loose play in, the chances significantly increase.

7.) 21 Apr 2021 21:58:22
Zion has to take the max extension after year 3. Injuries are too big of a concern to not take the guaranteed max extension as soon as he can.

8.) 21 Apr 2021 22:07:01
The money for a luka will come. Yes super max is 50 million more but that’s like 3 east endorsement deals today.

9.) 21 Apr 2021 22:58:58
Cuban won't let Doncic leave, and why would Doncic leave money on the table?

10.) 21 Apr 2021 23:47:44
For all that I would sign a one year max deal with another team to make Dallas match but it’s only one year then leave afterwards.
I just say New York for Zion cause that’s his favorite place to play and Tatum for lakers cause Tatum idolized Kobe and would love to win in LAkernation for Kobe.

11.) 22 Apr 2021 05:16:33
No chance Doncic leaves.

12.) 22 Apr 2021 13:48:00
Fred: his starting contract is just under 40 a year. It’s a loss of 25 to take the QO.

A significant increased chance is maybe 5x the chance. But that’s going from 1% to 5%. Still slim.

13.) 22 Apr 2021 17:03:49
Nice catch, BMiller. I was unaware that Doncic will probably become eligible for the "super max" extension as a rookie if he makes the All-NBA team again this season or next. I was tracking him at the "regular" max 25% of salary cap, not the "super" max of 30% of salary cap. ($35.7 mil in 2022-23) as he can not qualify for the 35% max because he is less than 7 years of "service".

So I guess that does make it less likely for him to just accept the QO.



19 Apr 2021 15:25:52
Whiteside: 12 and 10 in 19 mins

Porzingis: 9 and 11 in in 37 mins

Kings also went 9 mins with 6'9" player being tallest guy on court.


1.) 19 Apr 2021 19:12:56
What is crazy is that Doncic had 37pts/ 8rbs/ 4ast/ 3blk and was still a +/ - score of -20 for that game against the Kings.

2.) 20 Apr 2021 06:52:14
Must be really hard to be a Kings fan.



09 Apr 2021 22:58:28
Lets assume Orlando and OKC (via Houston) do not end up in the top 4 of the NBA lottery. What are the chances that they trade those picks to move up into the top 4?


1.) 10 Apr 2021 13:17:58
Magic are keeping the picks to draft Jalen Green and Scottie Barnes.

2.) 10 Apr 2021 17:20:48
the question was built on the assumption that the Magic are not in the top 4. do you expect Green will be available after the 4th pick? . fredman's point being you (Magic) may need to trade up to get what you want.

3.) 10 Apr 2021 17:29:20
so you would rather have a Green + Barnes over Mobley?

The reason I ask is because the top 3 picks (Cunningham, Mobley and Suggs) don't really fit well with Minnesota (unless they think Mobley can play as a modern-day PF) . I think if Minny (or someone jumps up into the Top 4) that they could be looking to trade down if they are looking for wings.

4.) 12 Apr 2021 22:17:52
I think Minny takes Cunningham, trades Dlo.

5.) 12 Apr 2021 22:18:13
Cunningham can also play the 3 and still be the facilitator for them.



02 Apr 2021 17:04:22
Never thought I would see the day when the Kings are actually favored by Vegas in a game against the Lakers. Kings -4.5.


1.) 03 Apr 2021 05:22:23
Sorry they lost.




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13 May 2021 20:03:43
Actually, NBA16, you are misrepresenting what the other discussion was about. It is not "good stats don't matter on a bottom team". It was "good stats are inflated on a bottom team". 2 completely different discussions. Kindly stop with the misinformation campaign, please.




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13 May 2021 19:55:54
Annoying? Now who is being mean to others?




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13 May 2021 19:54:51
Wondering the same thing, NBA16.

Also, wondering why Knicks are signing DeRozen and/ or Lowry at the expense of waiving the cap hold on being able to resign Derrick Rose for probably less than what DeRozen or Lowry would cost.




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13 May 2021 13:18:00
And DLo is putting up good numbers on a sorry team which leads to no wins as well.




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13 May 2021 05:48:07
pretty sure Detroit sees Grant>DLo so they will pass on this.





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