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26 May 2020 02:39:20
Potential DeRozan trades:

New post the virus cap will likely come in lower than originally anticipated, which also makes it more likely DeMar opts in to his $27.7M player option. That said, it’s time for a divorce, with some possible trade ideas below:

1) SAS/ ATL

To SAS - Dedmon, 2020 2nd (Via GSW)

To ATL - DeRozan

Spurs could use a big and get the first pick of the second round. The Hawks have plenty of cap space to make this deal and something else. The offense becomes even more high powered with DeMar in tow.

2) SAS/ DET

To SAS - Snell, Brown

To DET - DeRozan

DeMar played his best ball for Coach Casey, and Detroit could use a go to scorer. The Spurs take back Snell to make the salary offset closer (they have $40M to spend, and this still leaves them with $26M), and get a decent prospect in Brown.

3) SAS/ NYK

To SAS - Portis,2021 DAL 1st (Lottery Protected)

To NYK - DeRozan

Portis fills a front court need for the Spurs, and they get a 1st that will most assuredly convey next year. Knicks add scoring.

Triangle O

1.) 26 May 2020 08:43:42
Derozan still has better value than that.


2.) 27 May 2020 01:09:11
Atl doesn't own GSW 2020 2nd, Dallas does. Atl owns the best of Houston and Miami 2nd rounders.


 

 

16 May 2020 14:23:30
Knicks/ Wolves:

To MIN: Pick #6, DSJ

To NYK: Picks 17, 33, Josh Okogie

Minny gets two picks in the top 6, Knicks add a defensive wing, an extra 2nd and though they move down 11 spots in the draft, they still add a quality player in a draft with few stars, but lots of valuable rotation pieces.

Knicks draft:

17 - Saddiq Bey
28 - Patrick Williams
33 - Devon Dotson
38 - Jordan Nwora.

Triangle O

1.) 16 May 2020 16:28:12
Knicks fan?


2.) 16 May 2020 17:35:35
Let's see the lotto 1st. I believe pelican won lotto from 6-7 worst record.


3.) 16 May 2020 23:10:52
Seems fair. I don’t think ogkie will get big minutes if wolves can draft two top ten guys.


 

 

23 Jan 2020 00:10:12
Philly/ Spurs

To PHI - Belinelli

To SAS - Scott, 2020 2nd (via NYK)

Philly needs shooters, and Marco is out of the Spurs rotation right now. Spurs pick up an extra year of salary, but get an early 2nd for their trouble.

Triangle O

1.) 23 Jan 2020 12:03:34
A early second. Lol.


 

 

22 Jan 2020 23:56:11
Knicks/ Mavs

To DAL - Portis

To NYK - Lee, 2020 2nd (incoming from Utah)

Pretty simple one, Mavs get a big on an expiring deal to replace Powell. Knicks get another draft asset and keep the books clear for 2020 and beyond.

Mavs likely won’t get as good a player for as little in a trade anywhere else.

Triangle O

1.) 23 Jan 2020 11:42:57
Triangle for knicks fan that is wack trade for ny.


2.) 23 Jan 2020 12:37:40
NYK gets really less, so maybe that proposal may fit for NYK?

NYK: Brunson, Lee, 2x2nd 2020, removed protect 1st 2023
DAL: Portis, Ntilikina

Mavs could try to forward Portis, Jackson and 1st pick to Indiana for Turner!

What do you think?


 

 

01 Jan 2020 01:16:49
Miami/ NYK

To Miami - Gibson, Ellington

To NYK - Waiters, Robinson

Miami moves on from Waiters, and picks up two quality vets for a run to win the East.

Knicks take on Waiters additional year of salary, but get Robinson as a trade off in the transaction. If Dion does not work out, no harm as the FA crop is not great this year.

Triangle O

1.) 01 Jan 2020 11:25:07
Salaries don't quite work. You have Miami taking on $3.5 mil in salary when they only have $2.8 mil space left beneath the Hard Apron Line set with Butler's S&T.


 

 

 

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08 Apr 2020 12:31:04
Knicks top five FA targets 2020:

Look, even as a Knicks fan I am not delusional enough to think:

A) there is a difference maker in this FA class other than AD who almost assuredly will stay in LA.

B) the Knicks could land an all-star or superstar FA in their current state anyway.

As such, I thought I would look at which of their team option contracts they should keep/ decline, and then pick five reasonable FA targets for this offseason.

Decline option: Gibson, Ellington, Portis
50/ 50: Payton
Pick up: Bullock

FA targets:

Kris Dunn - Though an RFA, Bulls likely not to match any decent size deal. Not a great shooter, but above average floor general and defensive stud. 2+1 at $9-$10 per likely lands him.

Christian Wood - Don’t want to overpay for a guy who only hit radars after replacing the injured Griffin, but has put up strong performances every time he’s been given minutes. Has per 36 averages of 21.2 and 10.6, along with 1.5 steals and a block a game. His numbers with NO last year during his short stay as a starter suggest this year was not an anomaly.

Joe Harris - Knicks need shooting, and Joe offers it in spades. He’s fairly one dimensional, so $15+ a year seems like a reach. Nets are already into tax territory for next year, and while they’ve shown they’re not afraid to spend, Harris still may be a sacrifice.

Bryn Forbes - Good shooter and secondary ball handler, still young enough to fit the timeline, and also likely to be reasonably priced. More complete player than Trier, perfect for taking the role he had last year (not this one) .

Harry Giles - Bunch of talent, but health issues and logjam of frontcourt players in Sacramento likely spell doom this the Kings. May need to sign a one year “show me” contract, perfect guy to take a flyer on for the Knicks.

Triangle O

1.) 10 Apr 2020 20:53:30
This is what I call realism.


 

 

16 Jan 2019 12:08:30
No way NO accepts that offer, and Dallas will not give up Doncic to get AD.

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13 May 2017 17:09:20
Spurs offseason

Personally, I don't think Tony's retiring, so I'm basing this post around him still being with the team:

1) Gasol declines $16M player option, resigns for 2 yrs, $22M ($11M AAV)

2) Ginobli staves off retirement for one more year, signs 1 yr, $5M

3) Lee opts in to player option

4) Dedmon declines player option and walks.

5) Mills walks

5) Spurs draft Mathais Lessort # 29, deal 2nd round pick for a future 2nd

6) Sign with cap space Kelly Olynik 2 yrs, $12.5M

7) Use vet exception on Shaun Livingston. If Warriors are most likely not going to have the ability to sign him. Him, Ginobli and Murray cover until Parker returns, and allows to play Parker less minutes once he's back.

8) Resign Simmons 3 yrs, $22M.

Triangle O

1.) 16 May 2017 18:15:46
Celtics would match that offer for Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 16:58:22
Three team deal:

To CLE - Melo, Nelson

To DEN - Love, Rockets 2nd (via NYK)

To NYK - Faried, 2017 MEM 1st (via DEN), Shumpert

If Melo is going to waive his no trade,
Cleveland would be one of the few places he would agree to go. The Cavs also add a quality backup PG and clear about $5M of cap spend off their books to help with luxury tax payments.

Denver is looking for a star, and they get one in Love.

Knicks add a quality PF that would allow Zinger to spend more minutes at the five. A pick and a much needed wing defender also come New York's way.

Triangle O

1.) 22 Jan 2017 17:23:44
Have that 2nd rd pick from NY go to Cleveland instead


2.) 22 Jan 2017 20:21:15
This just makes Cavs worse and Nuggets get a steal. Cavs aren't going to shake things up this late and Love is better suited as a 3rd option than Melo and provides rebounding and passing. It took two entire seasons for Love to adjust to the role and I think it would be even worse for Melo. Yes they add a backup pg but the lose Shumpert and their wing depth is already weak with JR injured.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 21:06:45
Terrible trade for the Cavs. Love fits the Cavs far better than Melo, is younger, and makes less money. Shumpert is a better and younger player than Nelson and there are free agent point guards that are just as good as Nelson. Denver gives up almost nothing for Love.


 

 

24 Mar 2016 21:46:17
LeBron's dream scenario:

After LBJ's "Dream Team" comments, I looked around the NBA for a team that has the potential to make it happen. I came up with two possibilities, and both are below:

The LA Clippers

Paul is already there, so that takes care of one issue. To get Melo there would be easy, a Melo for Griffin deal or multi-team deal that moves Griffin out and Melo in.

Bron could get there via sign and trade, as Cleveland would most likely be willing to take back Jordan if LBJ forced the issue of an S&T.

Getting Wade is a bit more difficult, but again, if he requested an S&T from the Heat, and taking a pay cut to $10-$12M a year could work if the Heat have interest in J. J., which may not be far fetched. Both Wade and Melo's wives are Hollywood types, so living in L. A. would most likely be good with everyone.

Miami Heat

While it's crazy to think that LBJ would go back, it could be possible.

The Heat have approximately $45M to spend this offseason. If Wade and LBJ would be willing to split up $30M of that (Wade $12M, LBJ $18M), the Heat still have a decent amount of wiggle room.

To get Melo, I don't think it would be difficult to convince the Knicks to take a Melo for Dragic swap (some smaller pieces could or don't need to be added) .

Getting Paul is considerably more difficult. Two options are a multi team deal that sees Bosh and Winslow go out, Winslow to LAC, and Bosh to? That could stir up enough assets to send to LAC for Paul. The other option is just wait until next offseason for Paul and sign him (ETO for 17-18 season would need to be taken) .

I hate LBJ, so I don care to see him get what he wants, but thought it would be fun to run with his comments.

Thoughts?

Triangle O

1.) 25 Mar 2016 00:31:14
Or kyrie for paul. Love to Celtics bkn pick to Knicks and Melo to cavs (bits and pieces will of course be included) . Trade shumpert and frye as a salary dump. Sign wade and resign lebron.


2.) 25 Mar 2016 01:08:15
League sucks if they allow players to pull this stuff again.


3.) 25 Mar 2016 01:45:43
If I was Jim buss, I would tell the league that the trades would be unfair and creating a super team. Espically if it's the cavs to let them know how they like it.


4.) 25 Mar 2016 13:35:18
The league's got to be about competitive balance, not team stacking. The league has to approve all trades and contracts. I don't know exactly how they would stop this but the word "collusion" comes to mind. Teams cannot collude so players should be able to either. What James, Wade and Bosh did in Miami was wrong. Lesson learned. It should never happen again.

I know its a "players' league. " But there has to be limitations.


5.) 25 Mar 2016 14:09:09
I agree.


6.) 25 Mar 2016 15:34:19
I guess the one way the league could stop this would be if the owners forced a lock-out. Besides the team getting all the stars, I can't see anyone other owner in the league allowing this to happen.

Its inverse tanking. They modified the draft so that teams couldn't tank and be guaranteed the top pick. Maybe they'll need to come up with a free agency equivalent.


7.) 25 Mar 2016 18:52:05
What would happen if your team drafted all the players and they turned to stars.


8.) 25 Mar 2016 19:30:37
Drafted? I'd be fine with that. There's no organized collusion in that case.
What Bron's talking about is collusion.


9.) 25 Mar 2016 22:41:27
You should look up the definition of collusion.

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

He isn't cheating or deceiving. He just wants to play with his friends. Take less money. Win championships. No one complained when he did it with miami 5 years ago. why is it an issue now? It won't happen. If it did, it simply shows a lack of confidence or ability to win on your opwn. Nothing illegal. look at duncan or nowitski, neiother makes what their actual worth is. they took payh cuts to sign better players. but that's fine. once lebron wants to do it, with 3 others, its an issue. when he did it with 2 others, nol biggie. come on, just let things happen.

besides, i'd still bet on the warriors beating them. remember when the lakers snagged payton and malone? howd that turn out?


10.) 26 Mar 2016 12:45:27
I should look up "collusion"? "It is an agreement among firms or individuals to divide a market, set prices, limit production or limit opportunities. "

And you know darn well exactly what I'm getting at- an organized attempt to upset the competitive balance in the league. Call it whatever you want. Its clearly against the best interest of the league.

As for your claim that nobody complained over the Miami thing, that's not correct. It was brought up in the Owners Meeting in which they discussed player-player tampering. That was reported in the NY Times.


 

 

 

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27 May 2020 02:06:23
Don’t like this for the Knicks, and not because of the value.

Vic looked rough coming off the injury, I am sure he rebounds, but wouldn’t want to take my chances until I saw it. Turner cannot play the four, it’s why Indy is looking to move him. Sabonis is better, and the two can’t share the court.

I always look at Reddick as a gunner you add if you’re a contender, which this Knicks team would not be. I know that’s not how he’s been managed in the NBA, but he’ll find his true fit at the end of his career as a shooter on a championship club.

Four good players, but not the trade the Knicks should be making.

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26 May 2020 01:32:47
That CP3 deal is terrible for OKC, even if they want to get rid of him. DSJ has nil to negative value, Taj is a nothing either and pick 27 isn’t enticing enough.

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26 May 2020 01:30:26
I agree that they don’t go after Ball, but A) he’ll likely not be on the draft board when the Knicks pick, and B) going after a Center isn’t the answer either.

If they stay steady at six (+/ - a spot), I think the move is either Halliburton or Okoro. I like Halliburton’s length, and hustle. At his peak I think he could be a better shooting, lighter rebounding version of Dejounte.

Okoro would be a great fit at the three. His shooting needs work, but the feedback is that he’s a special defender, great kid, and coaches believe that he’ll put in the work to become a better shooter in the NBA.

Also don’t like dealing five firsts (4 + Barrett) for almost anyone, with the only exception being Giannis. I’m not just saying that for the Knicks, but for any team making that commitment.

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20 May 2020 01:53:25
Despite an up and down rookie year, Knicks are not giving up Barrett for LaVine. Zach has a tone of skill, but it doesn’t translate to wins for his teams.

Four future and a current first for ‘Dipo and Turner is way too much.

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20 May 2020 01:49:36
Allen and Dinwiddie is a little too much to give up for Gordon. Another piece to Brooklyn (future 1st), and it becomes feasible.

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