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15 Jan 2022 22:27:11
DET-POR-PHI-ATL

Pistons get: De'Andre Hunter, Anfernee Simons, Danillo Gallinari, 1st from Blazers

Sixers get: CJ McCollum, John Collins, Frank Jackson, Onyeka Okongwu

Hawks get: Jerami Grant, Tobias Harris, Kelly Olynyk

Blazers get: Ben Simmons

the value seems fair to my naked eye and the trade machine liked it.

how does everyone else feel about it?

iFroth

1.) 15 Jan 2022 22:56:39
Sixers trade the 2 guys they are shopping for 2 starters that fit their team better plus a young shooter and a athletic young PF

Blazers get Simmons for McCollum, Simons and a 1st

Pistons get their youth in Hunter, Simons and a 1st and take on Gallo's contract and give up Frank, Grant and Kelly

Hawks get more defense, more shooting and proven veterans with Harris, Grant and Olynyk while giving up Hunter, Okongwu and Gallinari

definitely fits all teams needs and makes everyone better IMO.


2.) 15 Jan 2022 23:01:01
Idk of Blazers want to give up Simons rn.


3.) 15 Jan 2022 23:21:48
At first glance, I see it as horrible for Atlanta.


4.) 15 Jan 2022 23:24:28
The way Simons has played recently, I wouldn’t let him go for Simmons.


5.) 15 Jan 2022 23:27:20
Yeah ATL says hell no.


6.) 15 Jan 2022 23:32:01
Why would the Hawks do this?


7.) 16 Jan 2022 00:18:19
Portland doest have a first to trade. The 2022 going to Chicago is protected through 2028.


8.) 16 Jan 2022 01:05:35
so you are saying basically that Hunter/ Collins >>>>> Grant/ Harris

i suppose you think Olynyk is a throw in and taking Gallinari's contract is an early christmas gift?

Olynyk adds the stretch big they lose in Collins and makes MUCH less.

ATL financially benefits the most because they lose Collins and Gallo's contracts and take on Harris' contract. Grant's contract is peanuts same w/ Olynyk. they are getting 3 quality players (two of them proven 20 PPG scorers) for 1 quality player, 1 contract they want to get rid of and 2 unproven young players.

ATL also would not give up any draft picks in the deal. i do not see the logic in saying they get ripped off.

Young
Huerter
Harris
Grant
Capela.


9.) 16 Jan 2022 01:08:45
well then the way Hamidou Diallo has been playing lately means he has much higher trade value? i am using the Simons theory now.

really evaluate the talent and where they are going because i see no one losing on this. this is based on needs and all said teams have interest in the players they are trading and/ or acquiring.

forget the Portland 1st if they don't have one.

would it make a difference if Diallo goes to the Hawks in the trade?


10.) 16 Jan 2022 04:02:48
Diallo isn’t putting up 28 and 8 on 51/ 45/ 95 shooting for the month.

Also, I valued Simons high before this outburst. He’s still incredibly young and looks like a possible lead scorer. For reference, I’d guess I value Simons as high as Fred values Halliburton or Philly fans value Maxey.

I’d love Simmons in Portland. But I’m not giving up the vet borderline all star guard and a possible future all star guard for him. That’s way too much.


11.) 16 Jan 2022 06:50:52
you have to trade talent to get talent.


12.) 16 Jan 2022 07:58:34
Simmons+Harris does not pull Philly this much talent. Around the league Harris is seen as a negative because of his contract.


13.) 16 Jan 2022 16:17:20
Yeah, but Simmons is broken talent until proven otherwise. If we were talking about a current all NBA player that hadn’t embarrassed himself the last time he played, I might consider moving Simons. But not Simmons. Too much of a risk that he’s never the same.


 

 

14 Jan 2022 22:54:20
Pistons - Blazers

Pistons get: CJ McCollum, Anfernee Simons, Jusuf Nurkic, 2022 1st round pick (top 10 protected)

Blazers get: Jerami Grant, Kelly Olynyk, Killian Hayes

iFroth

1.) 14 Jan 2022 23:18:21
salary matches are a pain i realize this is slightly in Pistons favor i tried to add Frank Jackson in to make it more even but it would not let me.


2.) 14 Jan 2022 23:18:47
Portland doesn't have a 2022 first to trade. It went to Chicago and it's protected for the next 5 years.


3.) 15 Jan 2022 00:05:28
Seems decent.


 

 

06 Jan 2022 19:24:42
MD or anyone who loves putting trades together

can you please try to make a multi-team trade where Detroit gets De'Aaron Fox and James Wiseman and perhaps another late 2022 1st rounder? do they have enough ammo to pull those 2 players in if its a 3 or even 4 team trade?

only conditions: Cade Cunningham, Saddiq Bey and the Pistons 2022 1st rounder are the only things untouchable.

iFroth

1.) 06 Jan 2022 19:48:03
WIthout those assets, they could potentially get Wiseman.


2.) 06 Jan 2022 19:52:32
Saddiq Bey might be the best asset you can give in order to get Fox imo.


3.) 06 Jan 2022 20:17:57
Grant for Wiseman as a framework has made sense to me for a while now.

I can’t see how they get Fox though.


4.) 07 Jan 2022 13:50:12
Not getting Fox.


 

 

02 Jan 2022 04:29:22
Grizzlies get: Jerami Grant, Trey Lyles, Cory Joseph

Pistons get: Kyle Anderson, De'Anthony Melton, Jarrett Culver, 2022 1st round pick via Utah

iFroth

1.) 02 Jan 2022 04:33:33
Think pistons would want Williams at least.


 

 

27 Dec 2021 21:58:30
Hawks get Jerami Grant

Pistons get Cameron Reddish, Delon Wright, '22 Hawks 1st

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15 Jan 2022 22:17:00
another request if you all don't mind. i appreciate all the feedback and i enjoy this site.

Detroit cannot trade any 1st rounders so obviously that is off the table. Cade and Bey are untouchable. everyone else can be had.

can anyone make a multi-team trade (3 or 4 teams) where the Pistons acquire De'Andre Hunter from ATL and Anfernee Simons from POR plus a 1st round pick?

obviously Grant would be traded but it could also include Philly where Ben Simmons goes to Atlanta or Portland, Harris and Grant go whichever team does not land Simmons, Sixers get McCollum from POR, Okongwu from ATL, Frank and/or Josh Jackson and/or Hamidou from DET, plus other assets that i cannot think of off the top of my head.

if anyone can make a legit 4 team trade with all of those names involved and possibly more, please give it a try. i will also work on it.

thanks in advance!

iFroth

1.) 16 Jan 2022 00:16:40
Portland currently dies not have a first round pick to trade. The 2022 first that was sent to Chicago has protections through 2028.


2.) 16 Jan 2022 05:39:19
Unfortunately, the way Simons is playing, think the Blazers management will hold on to him for quite sometime, unless they are getting an allstar (maybe not Simmons) in return.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2022 06:50:52
you have to trade talent to get talent.

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16 Jan 2022 01:08:45
well then the way Hamidou Diallo has been playing lately means he has much higher trade value? i am using the Simons theory now.

really evaluate the talent and where they are going because i see no one losing on this. this is based on needs and all said teams have interest in the players they are trading and/ or acquiring.

forget the Portland 1st if they don't have one.

would it make a difference if Diallo goes to the Hawks in the trade?

iFroth

 

 

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16 Jan 2022 01:05:35
so you are saying basically that Hunter/ Collins >>>>> Grant/ Harris

i suppose you think Olynyk is a throw in and taking Gallinari's contract is an early christmas gift?

Olynyk adds the stretch big they lose in Collins and makes MUCH less.

ATL financially benefits the most because they lose Collins and Gallo's contracts and take on Harris' contract. Grant's contract is peanuts same w/ Olynyk. they are getting 3 quality players (two of them proven 20 PPG scorers) for 1 quality player, 1 contract they want to get rid of and 2 unproven young players.

ATL also would not give up any draft picks in the deal. i do not see the logic in saying they get ripped off.

Young
Huerter
Harris
Grant
Capela.

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15 Jan 2022 22:56:39
Sixers trade the 2 guys they are shopping for 2 starters that fit their team better plus a young shooter and a athletic young PF

Blazers get Simmons for McCollum, Simons and a 1st

Pistons get their youth in Hunter, Simons and a 1st and take on Gallo's contract and give up Frank, Grant and Kelly

Hawks get more defense, more shooting and proven veterans with Harris, Grant and Olynyk while giving up Hunter, Okongwu and Gallinari

definitely fits all teams needs and makes everyone better IMO.

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15 Jan 2022 20:23:22
this does very little for the Lakers. once LeBron leaves, Lakers are going to be a punching bag for a while in the league.

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