Atlanta Hawks Rumours

30 Sep 2017 14:07:29
Sixers - hawks trade

Hawks gets jahlil okafor and 2nd rd pick
Sixers gets marco belineli and wolves 1st rd protected pick.

30 Sep 2017 16:52:47
Sounds reasonable.

23 Sep 2017 02:11:21
ATL-DEN-PHX

ATL : D.Bender + E.Mudiay + 1st round pick DEN

E.Mudiay-M.Delaney
K.Bazemore-M.Dunleavy
T.Prince-D.Bembry
D.Bender-E.Ilyasova-J.Collins
D.Dedmon-M.Plumlee

DEN : E.Bledsoe

E.Bledsoe-J.Nelson
J.Murray-G.Harris
W.Chandler-W.Barton
P.Millsap-J.Hernangomez-T.Lyles
N.Jokic-M.Plumlee-D.Arthur

PHX : D.Shroeder + K.Faried + M.Beasley

D.Shroeder-T.Ulis-B.Knight
D.Booker-M.Beasley
J.Jackson-T.Warren
M.Chriss-K.Faried-J.Dudley
T.Chandler-A.Williams

13 Sep 2017 01:50:39
ATL: Bazemore + HOU 1st

CHI: Wade

ATL clears Baze off the books, And CHI gets an athletic wing + an additional 1st.

13 Sep 2017 17:34:12
Make it a 3 way deal

Atlanta sends bazemore and Hou 1st to Chicago
Atlanta receives Channing Frye (Exp) and Iman Shumpert (Exp)

Chicago sends DWade
Chicago receives Baze and Hou 1st

Cavs send Frye and Shumpert
Cavs receive Wade.

13 Sep 2017 18:47:51
I'm not sure why Atlanta would be trying to clear cap space. They're in the first year of a rebuild. It's not like free agents will be all that interested next season.

09 Sep 2017 03:40:32
OKC moves

OKC/ATL

OKC send Kyle Singler & 2nd round pick for a highly protected 2nd round pick

OKC sign Boris Diaw

Pg Westbrook/Felton/Christon
Sg Roberson/McDermott/Ferguson
Sf George/Grant/Abrines
Pf Diaw/Patterson/Collison
Ce Adams/Kanter

30 Aug 2017 16:46:05
ATL-HOU-NYK-PHI trade

Atlanta gets- Jahlil Okafor

Houston gets- Carmelo Anthony

New York gets- Kent Bazemore, Nik Stauskas, Isiah Taylor, Tim Quarterman, 1st rd pick (HOU)

Philadelphia gets- Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza


Whats your thoughts?

29 Aug 2017 18:40:24
76ers moves

1. Sign Shabazz Mohahmad to a one year, 7-8 million contract. Bazz would be instant offense off the bench if sixers young guns are struggling at times. Would be a great back up for Covington.

2. Trade Okafor to Atlanta for Houston 2018 #1, top 20 protected.

30 Aug 2017 00:56:08
Good realistic moves.

23 Aug 2017 12:14:36
UTA X ATL

UTA take M.Bellineli & 2nd round pick

ATL take A.Burks & lottery protected 1st

21 Aug 2017 04:01:00
December deal

ATL Hawks X OKC Thunder

ATL take K.Singler & 2nd round pick

OKC take E.Ilyasova

19 Aug 2017 16:21:04
76ers/ Hawks

Hawks get: Okafor
Sixers get: Rockets 2018 1st.

Hawks have zero inside scoring threat. Okafor could add some scoring off the bench. he's still only 21, and with major defensive weaknesses, but can get get you buckets. Maybe Hawks see this as an opportunity to get a young center with more potential upside then the 25-30th pick in next years draft. Sixers get small return for Okafor, but he's never going to develop in philly behind embiid and holmes, and it would be best for both parties to move on.

19 Aug 2017 17:03:11
It makes sense for both teams. I like it. The only two hang ups might be that Atlanta could want a guy on a rookie scale longer and it's been hard to judge what Philly thinks Okafor is worth. Okafor still being on the roster makes me think they value him a lot more than most teams.

19 Aug 2017 19:05:29
I like it for both too. I think a late first is reasonable for Okafor, and with the Hawks rebuilding, why not take a flyer on Okafor for a year.

20 Aug 2017 20:50:39
Okafor is scheduled to male 5mill this year, with a team option for next year. If this trade, or a similiar trade, was to happen, Philly should think about signing shabazz muhamahd to a 2 year deal for 12 mill, first year guranteed at 5mill and second year team option at 7mill. Scoring may be an issue at times with all the young guys, and a sf to come off the bench for some instant offense may work well for sixers.

19 Aug 2017 07:57:19
Hawks-Suns

Hawks get Knight & 2nd rd pick

Suns get Bellineli & Bembry

19 Aug 2017 16:22:45
Hawks rebuilding, Bembry is a piece for the future whereas Knight is not. Hawks don't make this deal.

19 Aug 2017 16:27:45
I think hawks declines ptetty quickly. They already have Schroeder as their pg, and belinelli is a low cost 3pt shooter. Bembry is a 20 year old foward with upside. Why would they give up 2 decent players for knight ( not needed and makes 14 million) and a 2nd?

15 Aug 2017 06:50:51
SAS/UTA/ATL/IND

SAS get Favors , Bellineli & T.Young

UTA get Aldridge

ATL get Parker (buy-out) & 2nd from Spurs

IND get 1st from UTA & Alec Burks

16 Aug 2017 02:37:58
Don't really understand the need for Indiana in this deal. Spurs don't really need Thad Young.

15 Aug 2017 01:51:55
ATL/LAL/CHI

ATL get Luol Deng , Jason Hart , Julius Randle & LAL 2020 1st

LAL get Dwayne Wade

CHI get Marco Bellineli & Mike Dunleavy

11 Aug 2017 01:56:28
Melo says he only wants to go to Houston I can't see Rockets getting a third team to take Anderson his contract just sucks way to much. I could see Knicks having 1-2 teams already agreed upon a trade but are just waiting till Melo opens up. I know this won't happen but a trade that's decent for every team is

NYK get Jackson,Hill,Bellinelli.
Det get Ajinca,Moore, Thomas or Oquinn
ATL gets Asik
NOP gets Melo.

10 Aug 2017 05:48:15
OKC/IND/ATL

OKC get Thad Young & Mike Dunleavy

IND get future OKC 1st & Marco Bellineli (exp)

ATL get Enes Kanter & Josh Huestis

OKC sign Andrew Bogut

OKC line-up

Pg Westbrook/Felton/Christon
Sg Roberson/Abrines/Ferguson
Sf George/Grant/Dunleavy
Pf Young/Patterson/Collison
Ce Adams/Bogut

10 Aug 2017 02:26:52
ATL-NY-HOU

ATL : J.Noah + R.Anderson + F.Nkitilina + 1st round pick from HOU + 1st round pick NY

F.Nkitilina-M.Delaney-D.Bembry
K.Bazemore-M.Bellineli
T.Prince-L.Babbit
R.Anderson-E.Ilyasova-J.Collins
D.Dedmon-J.Noah-M.Muscala

NY : M.Plumlee + D.Shroeder + T.Ariza + 2nd from ATL

D.Shroeder-R.Baker
C.Lee-T.Hardaway
T.Ariza-L.Thomas
K.Porzingis-M.Kuzminkas
W.Hernangomez-M.Plumlee-K.Oquinn

HOU : C.Anthony + M.Dunleavy

C.Paul-B.Brown
J.Harden-E.Gordon
P.Tucker-M.Dunleavy
C.Anthony-L.Mbah Moute
C.Capela-Nene-T.Black

09 Aug 2017 04:49:49
Hawks-Bulls-Magic


•Hawks get Bismack Biyombo
Lineup:
PG: Schroeder, Delaney
SG: Bellinelli, Bazemore, Dorsey
SF: Prince, Bembry, Brussino
PF: Ilyasova, Collins, Babbitt
C: Dedmon, Biyombo, Muscala

•Bulls get Miles Plumlee and a 2nd rd pick from Hawks and Magic
-Sign Nerlens Noel 4yr 80m
-Sign Derrick Williams 1yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Dunn, Payne, Grant
SG: LaVine, Holiday, Nwaba
SF: Wade, Valentine, Zipser
PF: Portis, Markannen, Williams
C: Noel, Felicio, Plumlee

•Magic get Robin Lopez
Lineup:
PG: Payton, Mack, Augustin
SG: Fournier, Afflalo, Hezonja
SF: Ross, Simmons, Iwundu
PF: Gordon, Isaac, Speights
C: Lopez, Vucevic, Birch.

05 Aug 2017 18:39:40
Hawks get Wade Payne Ntilikina Hertainstein
Bulls get Ariza Bazemore Long Onuaka
Knicks get Schroder Anderson
Rockets get Melo

Rockets roster is now complete.

CP3/Taylor/Brown
Harden/Gordon/Quartermann
Melo/Tucker/Williams
Moute/Black/Oliver
Capela/Nene/Xi

Hawks full circle of rebuilding is now complete

Ntilikina/Delaney/Payne
Belinelli/Dorsey
Prince/Bembry/Brussino
Collins/Ilyasova/Hertenstein
Plumlee/Dedmon/Muscala

Bulls answer for Sf and front court depth

Dunn/Grant/Nwaba
Lavine/Holiday/Valentine
Ariza/Bazemore/Zisper
Portis/Felicio/Long
Lopez/Markennan/Onuaka

Knicks fill their void at PG.
Anderson Lee for MKG Marv-Williams

Schroder/Sessions/Baker
Hardaway/Dotson/Randle
MKG/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Williams/O'Quinn/Kornet
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Noah

05 Aug 2017 19:32:01
The Hawks and Bulls want no part of this.

06 Aug 2017 01:36:09
For the Hawks I think it basically boils down to if they'd want to swap the more proven Schroeder who is still only 23 and has started playoff games but getting paid a lot of money for the cheaper Ntilikina who is only 19 and will likely be a decent project (has decent upside but also bust potential) .

Bulls shouldn't really be trying to be good so I think they'd be better off keeping Wade's expiring contract and not picking up Bazemore's contract.

Schroeder kinda makes more sense than Ntilikina since he can contribute right away but is still young enough to grow with Porzingis. The only issue is he is getting paid a lot and with Knicks gettting Anderson too Knicks will have a lot of money locked up. The Hornets move would be a wise one for Knicks but I don't think Hornets would want to do that and take on Anderson's contract either (Williams is a much more versatile player and cheaper) .

Rockets get Melo which is what they all want.

02 Aug 2017 20:46:21
NYK - OKC - ATL

NYK get: Kent Bazemore, Dennis Schroder, and Doug McDermott (exp)

pg. Schroeder
sg. THJ
sf. Bazemore
pf. Porzingis
c. Hernangomez

OKC get: Carmelo Anthony

pg. Westbrook
sg. Roberson
sf. George
pf. Anthony
c. Adams

ATL get: Enes Kanter, Joakim Noah, Frank Ntilinka, 2018 1st DP NYK, 2019 1st DP OKC, and 2021 1st DP OKC

pg. Ntilinka
sg. Belinelli
sf. Prince
pf. Collins
c. Plumlee

02 Aug 2017 22:16:17
Even after these moves I think Knicks would still have a tough time making the playoffs and don't really free-up any cap space to improve. I think they'd be better off keeping Ntilikina and seeing what he has and keeping their pick which should end up a top 10 pick again. They can try to move Noah next offseason when he'll be easier to move.

Melo would be a great pickup for the Thunder. My only sticking point would be that the picks the Thunder are giving up would have to have decent protections since in the event Westbrook, George and Melo (player option) all leave the Thunder would quickly become one of the worst teams in NBA and the value of those picks would skyrocket.

For Atlanta I think its a solid move. Schroeder is easily their best player but I think adding Ntilikina and potentially another lotto pick is more than fair compensation for him even when Noah's contract is factored in (Based on outgoing salaries ATL isn't even adding salary with this trade and neither Schroeder or Bazemore were going to do much for them anyway) . The Hawks are weak at center and Kanter is at least young and only signed for like two more years.

03 Aug 2017 02:34:13
Noah is staying and not trading picks. okc can't trade those pics. Can someone ban this guy. Porzingis is center. Hernangomez is his backup. Defense struggle with them together with weak perimeter players.

09 Aug 2017 00:19:41
Not a big fan of giving up kanter or McDermott give grant instead of McDermott and add more prospects like dakari huestis along with grant and singler and maybe some other d leaguers with some promising upside bc I don't think it's worth it to give up kanter or McDermott for melo when his value isn't even that good.

09 Aug 2017 00:22:19
It may work for me to give up kanter if oquinn is involved but New York doesn't want that contract.
And my reasoning for singler it helps level out salaries and his salary isn't that bad as people thinks and maybe what he needs a change of scenery and he could become a quality off the bench role guy like he was in Detroit.

02 Aug 2017 19:33:42
ATL - CLE - DET

ATL get: Kyrie Irving, JR Smith, and Stanley Johnson

pg. Irving/ Delaney
sg. Smith/ Belinelli
sf. Johnson/ Prince
pf. Illaysova/ Muscala
c. Plumlee/ Dedmon

CLE get: Andre Drummond, Kent Bazemore, Dennis Schroeder, and John Collins

pg. Schroeder/ Rose
sg. Korver/ Shumpert
sf. James/ Bazemore
pf. Love/ Collins
c. Drummond/ Frye

DET get: Tristan Thompson, Edy Tavares, DeAndre' Bembry, and 2018 1st DP ATL (unprotected)

pg. Jackson/ Smith
sg. Bradley/ Kennard
sf. Harris/ Bembry
pf. Leuer/ Tolliver
c. Thompson/ Marjanovic

04 Aug 2017 06:47:06
Detroit would say no.

01 Aug 2017 19:24:55
CLE-ATL-PHX-DEN

Cavs-
GET: Schroder, Bazemore, Faried, 2018 1st (HOU, 4-30), 2021 1st (MIA)
LOSE: Irving, Shumpert, JR

Hawks-
GET: Irving, Smith, Dudley
LOSE: Schroder, Bazemore, Prince, 2019 1st (CLE), 2018 1st (HOU)

Suns-
GET: Shumpert, Mudiay, Barton, Prince, 2019 1st (CLE, 11-30)
LOSE: Bledsoe, Dudley, 2021 1st (MIA)

Nuggets-
GET: Bledsoe
LOSE: Faried, Mudiay, Barton

Cavs get a good young PG (Schroder), a very good wing defender (Bazemore) a very solid backup big man (Faried), and a couple of firsts. They can compete this year, plus will have their PG of the future and a couple draft picks

Hawks have several 1st's in future years, so why not use a few to get a top 20 player, who's just 25, to start the rebuild (something the Celtics should've done, but never did)? They save a few million a year by taking on JR for Bazemore. Taking on Dudley gives them a stretch small ball 4.

Suns get a potential PG of the future in Mudiay, who could be a great fit alongside Booker, while dumping Dudley's contract. Adding Shumpert and Barton gives them guard depth that they needed and Prince can be a solid 3 and D SF if they go small with Jackson at the 4.

Denver uses a couple of their young pieces and Faried, who's become expendable with the addition of Millsap, to get a very good PG in Bledsoe.

Bottom line:
Hawks add young star to jumpstart their rebuild
Cavs get good young player & picks while being able to compete
Suns get a few young players and go all in on youth
Nuggets get a very good PG in exchange for expendable depth

01 Aug 2017 20:45:38
Awful.

01 Aug 2017 20:55:37
If Hawks are getting Irving in a trade including both Nuggets and Suns something is wrong. Hawks may have a shot if they offer Schroeder, Prince and a first for Irving but I doubt two of the teams who are also in the Irving sweepstakes would help another team get him for less than they could easily (and should be willing to) give up.

01 Aug 2017 21:25:35
I agree that the Hawks could've offered just Schroder, Prince and a couple first's for Irving, but I don't think that trade helps the cavs really compete this year against boston. So knowing they want Faried, I wanted him in the deal as well. And since Denver wants a PG, I put Bledsoe (therefore Phoenix) in the deal too. Majority of teams want Irving, so almost any three team deal for Irving will include a team that wants Irving, but won't get him.

01 Aug 2017 22:11:52
My basic point is that I think Suns and Nuggets will make more attractive offers to Cavs for Irving therefore I don't understand why they'd help another team get him for less than I think Nuggets and Suns themselves would be willing to give up.

02 Aug 2017 07:59:36
So phoenix passes on mudiay and a first rounder at the draft, but takes some scrubs and muiday along with extra salary?

02 Aug 2017 13:14:55
They don't take extra salary cause they're trading Dudley, so Shump's salary is only a couple hundred thousand extra. Prince is only going into his 2nd year and Mudiay his 3rd. Barton averaged 14, 4, and 3 in 28mpg shooting 44%fg and 37%three. So I'm confused who the "scrubs" are that Phoenix is getting.