Atlanta Hawks Rumours

22 Jun 2017 02:53:04
DEN plans

DEN/TOR/OKC

DEN get Demar Derozan & Enes Kanter

TOR get Jamaal Murray , Kenneth Faried , 13th pick , 21st pick , future 2nd from OKC & 2019 1st from TOR (top 8 protected)
- get a home town boy and plenty of assets for a rebuild

OKC get Wilson Chandler
- get their small forward to start

DEN get a legit star on the trade taking on Kanter as a back-up scoring center

ATL/DEN

ATL get Darrell Arthur & 2nd round pick

DEN get Paul Millsap (s&t)

DEN resign Danilo Gallinari

Pg Mudiay/Nelson
Sg Derozan/Harris/Beasley
Sf Gallinari/Barton
Pf Millsap/Hernangomez
Ce Jokic/Kanter

22 Jun 2017 02:19:00
Heat : millsap(s&t), schroeder
hawks : dragic, #14 pick, mcroberts(waive)

Heat:
- sign hayward, milos teodosic,larry sanders
- resign j johnson, waiters, haslem, ellington
- let babbitt and reed walk

schroeder/t johnson/teodosic
waiters/richardson/ellington
Hayward/winslow/mcgruder
Milsap/j johnson/white
Whiteside/sanders/haslem

22 Jun 2017 01:56:46
Kings trade 5th, 10th pick, Koufos, Labissiere
Kings get 3rd pick, Aldridge, Green

Spurs trade Aldridge, Green, 29th pick
Spurs get Milsap(s&t), Labissiere

Celtics trade 3rd pick
Celtics get 5th, 29th pick

Hawks trade Milsap(s&t)
Hawks get Koufos, 10th pick

Kings:
- draft Fox with 3rd pick, get an former All-Star in Aldridge to bring veteran leadership at frontcourt (Cauley-Stein, Papagiannis and also Fox PnR-Game)

Spurs:
- sign CP3, resign Gasol, Simmons, Dedmon & Lee
CP3/Murray/Parker
Simmons/Ginobili/Anderson
Leonard/Anderson/Bertans
Milsap/Labissiere
Gasol/Dedmon/Lee

Celtics:
- move down in trade to select either Tatum, Smith or Isaac
- add late 1st round pick for (one more piece for a superstar trade)

Hawks:
- rebuild around Schroeder, THJ, Prince, Bazemore and this years picks

22 Jun 2017 00:19:21
Pacers-Bucks-Hawks

Pacers trade Paul George
Pacers get Paul Millisap (S&T) and Kris Middleton

Bucks trade Greg Monroe, Kris Middleton
Bucks get Paul George

Hawks trade Paul Millisap (S&T)
Hawks get Greg Monroe.

22 Jun 2017 06:40:25
Bucks would have to give up something else to the pacers that's no enough for pg13 my Parker or something else like bragdon. Plus they don't need millisap his 32 and if they are losing pg13 they need to rebuild. And that doesn't start by maxing out a 32 year undersized PF who is one bad injury away from he careers being over.

21 Jun 2017 23:49:54
Hawks - Lakers

Hawks gets:
Deng
27th pick (Celtics via Lakers)
28th pick (Rockets via Lakers)

Lakers gets:
Belinelli
31st pick (Nets via Hawks)

Hawks gets picks for their rebuild while taking on Dengs contract.

Lakers gets more cap space in 2018 and a high 2nd round pick.

21 Jun 2017 22:51:21
Paul Millsap sign and trade ideas
Kings, Suns, Nuggets interested per report

Atl-Sac
Millsap, #19 for #10, #34

Atl-Phx
Millsap for Bender, Knight

Atl-Den
Millsap, #19 for Faried, #13

22 Jun 2017 01:07:03
Phoenix and Sacramento make no sense. Not only do they have enough cap space to sign them outright. Nuggets could work although don't think returns like that are typical in sign and trades.

I think Houston would be a great destination too but a 3rd team would have to be involved to take Ryan Anderson's contract and give some assets to ATL.

22 Jun 2017 01:30:45
All 3 of those teams have cap space. Why would there be a sign and trade.

21 Jun 2017 21:00:14
Hawks discuss s&t trade for Milsap, so Heat could add another big reason for Hayward to sign in Miami in FA

Hawks trade Milsap (s&t, 4y 100m)
Heat trade 14th pick, Ellington, McRoberts

Hawks add 14th pick in deep draft 2017 and veteran experience on expiring contracts

Heat:
- sign Hayward 4y 120m, vet PG & C
- resign J.Johnson, Babbitt, Haslem
Dragic/Richardson/vet PG
Richardson/T.Johnson/McGruder
Hayward/J.Johnson/Babbitt
Milsap/J.Johnson/Haslem
Whiteside/vet C
- replace Milsap and Hayward for McRoberts and Ellington to last years Heat and you get an immediat title contender
- bring T.Johnson and J.Johnson as 6th men both, lead bench with hustle plays and high-motor
- need to add pieces at PG and frontcourt but Pat Riley is a master in that

21 Jun 2017 22:41:15
Let's not go as far as to say title contenders, neither Hayward or Millsap are a true difference maker, this would make them a top 5 seed though.

22 Jun 2017 00:20:43
Still can't beat LeBron.

21 Jun 2017 15:05:03
Paul Milsap sign and trade
Hawks trade
Paul Milsap, Future protected CLE pick

Jazz trade
Derrick Favors, Dante Exum, Alec Burks
both late 2017 picks.

21 Jun 2017 17:07:00
Sign and trades never get you that kind of return.

21 Jun 2017 20:56:46
agreed Alexstorm1. regardless of sign-n-trade dynamic, Milsap is very good but not worth that suggested haul.

21 Jun 2017 03:58:47
Pacers-Hawks

Pacers trade Paul George and Al Jefferson to the Hawks for Paul Millisap (S&T), Tim Hardaway Jr., and 1st round pick

Pacers resign Jeff Teague (4yr/ 80mill)

Pacers sign Rudy Gay (2yr/ 36mill)

Pacers draft Bam Adebayo, OG Anunoby, and Frank Mason

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Jeff Teague, Lance Stephenson, Frank Mason
SG: Tim Hardaway Jr., Monta Ellis, Joe Young
SF: Rudy Gay, Glenn Robinson, OG Anunoby
PF: Paul Millisap. Thaddeus Young, Georges Niang
C: Myles Turner, Bam Adebayo, Lavoy Allen.

21 Jun 2017 05:53:44
Hawks just gave Dwight Howard away for essentially nothing, not sure what they'd want a year of George for. They'd be better off keeping THJ and trying to rebuild which after debating blowing it up the past two years looks like the direction Hawks are finally going to go.

21 Jun 2017 02:46:28
ATL will not be resigning Millsap after trading Dwight for less

I think they will go full rebuild

ATL/SAC

ATL get #10 pick + A.Afflalo

SAC get 2018 ATL 1st round pick (top 7 protected) + K.Bazemore

will give the Hawks a lottery pick for this year while sheding some salary. Hawks could be bad this year so Kings might do it while getting a young player in Bazemore to start at 3

21 Jun 2017 05:04:48
Bazemore would need a first just to take his contract.

21 Jun 2017 06:05:08
Why would Kings deal Afflalo's non-guaranteed contract and guaranteed #10 pick in the current draft for Bazemore's decently sized contract and a top 7 protected pick in a draft a year from now. Although I guess Bazemore is a solid player that would start for Kings he wouldn't be in their long-term plans which should be the focus right now. Having the pick being top 7 protected offers virtually no upside to dealing #10 this year.

21 Jun 2017 02:20:20
Hawks just dumped Howard on the Hornets

Howard and 31 for Plumlee, Belinelli, and 41

21 Jun 2017 05:08:58
They apparently really wanted to get rid of him if they are only getting a couple of scraps and dropping 10 spots in the second round.

20 Jun 2017 11:10:22
Now that Griffins gone I feel like Gilberts going to blow it up for whatever reason.
Gilberts Dream Scenario

4 team trade Cavs Bulls Pacers 76ers

Cavs Receive
Wade
George
Butler
Ellis
Bayless

Bulls receive
Love
Frye
Okafor
2 second rounders (NYK, ATL) this year from the 76ers
2019 first round (76ers) from the 76ers

Pacers Receive
Thompson
Shumpert
2018 first round pick(LAL) from 76ers
2019 second round (SAC) pick from 76ers
2021 first round pick from Cavs

76ers receive
Irving

20 Jun 2017 14:53:48
Rumors have Chauncy Billups as the possible GM. He has mentioned prior, that he thinks Melo would fit nicely on this team. If Billups is hired, look for a Melo deal not too far behind.

20 Jun 2017 16:20:09
Cleveland is about to become a dysfunctional team. Gilbert got his championship title, Blow it up now Dan. First move, trade the dude that has lied to you a few times and is about to do it again.

21 Jun 2017 23:24:29
Sixers are getting hosed in this one. Okafor, Bayless, 2 1's and 3 2's? That's way too much for Irving. We'll just play with what we have, thanks.

20 Jun 2017 03:38:20
CLE/ORL

CLE get Nik Vucevic

ORL get Tristan Thompson

CLE/MIN/ATL

CLE get Paul Millsap (st) & Gorgui Dieng

MIN get Kevin Love , Kent Bazemore & ATL 1st round pick

ATL get #7 pick Channing Frye , Iman Shumpert & future 1st from CLE
sign Marresse Speights

CLE

Pg Irving/Williams
Sg Smith/Korver
Sf James/Jefferson/Williams
Pf Millsap/Speights
Ce Vucevic/Dieng

MIN

Pg Rubio/Dunn/Jones
Sg Bazemore/LaVine
Sf Wiggins/Muhammad
Pf Love/Bjelica
Ce Towns/Aldrich

ATL
draft J.Isaac

Pg Shroeder/Delaney
Sg Shumpert/THJ
Sf Isaac/Prince
Pf Frye/Humphries
Ce Howard/Muscala

20 Jun 2017 04:37:22
I dot need really think that Millsap and Vucevic are upgrades over Love and Thompson.

20 Jun 2017 04:58:51
I think they are a better fit. They can pound the inside better than Love and Thompson. and they have Dieng as a rim protector.

19 Jun 2017 19:03:28
1st trade:
Pacers trade George to Lakers for #2, #28, 2019 1st and Clarkson

2nd trade:
Pacers trade #2 to Suns for #4 and #32 and 2018 Heat 1st (Suns want Ball)

3rd Trade:
Trade Young to Atlanta for #19 and #31 (Need to replace Millsap)

4th Trade: Trade #19, #28, #31, #32, #47 to Orlando for #6 (Orlando is rebuilding and needs picks)

Draft Fox at #4, Isaac at #6, Ferguson at #18
Resign Miles and let Teague walk.

Lineup:
Fox/Stephenson/Young
Clarkson/Ferguson/Ellis
Robinson III/Miles/Niang
Allen/Isaac
Turner/Seraphin/Jefferson

Thoughts?

19 Jun 2017 21:42:28
I doubt Lakers give up that much for George. I don't think they'll ever include #2 pick but if they did that's all they'd need since I don't see any team outbidding that for a 1 year rental (they could probably add Deng or Mozgov and still get away with it) .

The second trade is alright although if I were the Suns I'd be fine at #4 where I'm guaranteed to get Ball, Jackson or Fox all who could fit well in that team (move Bledsoe for another draft pick in this draft or young asset) .

3rd trade is a little rich for Young since Hawks wouldn't be that good if they lost Millsap and could get a more reasonable replacement with #19 pick that would build them toward the future around Schroeder and THJ.


The Fourth trade I don't think those picks move you all the way up to #6 especially in this deep draft and from a team like Magic who is already young but needs a young player with superstar potential which is much easier found at #6. They already have a bunch of alright young player and adding 5 players to any roster is tough; 2 or 3 of those would have to be stashed overseas which really limits your selection.

19 Jun 2017 14:47:27
Lakers looking for another first round pick.

Lal-Atl-Sac

Lakers get #10

Hawks get Russell, Deng

Kings get #19, #28, #31

19 Jun 2017 15:27:40
Lakers might do that. Don't think the hawks need russell as they have Schröder. Anyways #10 for russell is equal value. But dengs contract is to heavy for #28.
Kings won't do it before draft night. If someone like Ntilikina, monk or DSJ falls to 10 they won't trade it.

19 Jun 2017 16:44:06
Hawks are not trading #19 and #31 for D'Angelo who won't even start and deng's terrible contract.

19 Jun 2017 17:29:03
The Kings turn that down quickly.

16 Jun 2017 09:19:30
Indy should go all in, if PG13 would like to stay

1) Indy- Atl-Nets

Indy: 2rnd pick Nets 2018

Atl: M Ellis
Atlanta could do this because D12 need shooters, ellis is a friend and Atlanta could enter the free agent marktet in 2020, when both contracts end.

Nets: Bazemore+ Jefferson+ 1rnd pick Indy 2017+ Wolves pick 2018 (top 12 protected)
The Nets take bad contracts, for draft picks, so they can rebuilt.

2) Indy- Denver
Indy; Faried
Denver: Young+ Nets 2nd round pick 2018

3) Indy would have about 54M in capspace, so they could sign Hayward and Lowry
also sign L Stephenson and Z-Bo for the vet minimum
And sign Rondo with the mid level exception

C: M turner/Z-Bo/Seraphin
Pf: Farried/ Z-BO/ L Allen
SF: PG13/ L Stephenson/ G Robinson
SG: G Hayward/ CJ Miles/ G Robinson
PG: K Lowry/Rondo/Booker

16 Jun 2017 12:54:55
Why would Indy trade Faried for Young and why would they trade #18.

16 Jun 2017 13:43:15
Because he's on a cheaper contract and Lowry, Hayward, PG13 and Miles can shoot, so they need a rebounder.

16 Jun 2017 14:39:01
same thing. hawks would never trade Bazemore for Ellis. Ellis is on the decline, Bazemore a solid wing player in his prime, he has much more value.

16 Jun 2017 14:39:59
if Ellis is so good, take out Hawks and make it a more realistic 2 team trade.

15 Jun 2017 17:24:33
Cle: D Howard+ C Anthony

Atl: J Noah+ Frye+ 8 pick


NY: Thompson+ Shumpert+ JR Smith


Cle
C: Howard
PF: K Love
SF: LBJ
SG: Korver
PG: Irving
Sixth: C Anthony

15 Jun 2017 18:51:22
So trade a scorer and a pick for a guy who can only rebound and two pieces we traded to Cleveland for second round picks? It isn't worth getting rid of Noah's contract because they need to rebuild anyways and money being spent on Noah is not as much an issue.

15 Jun 2017 20:02:46
The Cavs wouldn't swap Tristan for Howard and I don't think the New York wants to take on all of that salary.

15 Jun 2017 21:45:52
One more time because you don't understand. Knicks will not take back Shumpert, JR Smith, Crawford or Frye. Been there, done that.

15 Jun 2017 22:02:01
They would definitely take Shumpert and probably Fry since he's an expiring, but Smith and Crawford are both signed for a few years. Unless it's in combination with a solid package for Melo they wouldn't take them.

15 Jun 2017 17:01:39
ATL - BOS - LAC - SAS

ATL get: Lamarcus Aldridge, Jaylen Brown, and SAS 1st DP 2017
Draft: Justin Jackson (19) and Ivan Rabb (29)
Sign: Jeff Teague

pg. Teague
sg. Brown
sf. Bazemore/ Jackson
pf. Aldridge
c. Rabb/ FA

BOS get: Blake Griffin and JJ Reddick
Draft: Markelle Fultz
Sign: Gordon Hayward

pg. Thomas/ Fultz
sg. Bradley/ Reddick
sf. Hayward
pf. Griffin
c. Horford

LAC get: Paul Milsap (s&t), Tony Parker, Jae Crowder, Dennis Schroeder and 2018 1st DP BKN via BOS

pg. Parker/ Schroeder
sg. Rviers/ Crawford
sf. Crowder
pf. Milsap
c. Jordan

SAS get: Dwight Howard and Chris Paul

pg. Paul
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Gasol
c. Howard

15 Jun 2017 18:02:30
C's can't sign Blake, JJ and Hayward. And then IT next year. Just can't happen mathematically.

15 Jun 2017 18:47:57
wouldnt resign IT, that's where fultz comes in.

15 Jun 2017 19:44:13
Still won't work . Horford, Blake, Hayward and JJ puts you over the cap. Just them 4 alone. Would be nice if only the cap were 130 million.

16 Jun 2017 16:45:08
It's either Griffin or Hayward. Can't be both. Personally, I would love to see them sign Griffin and trade bodies and picks (not this year's #1 pick ) for Butler.

15 Jun 2017 15:44:23
Nets: Bazemore+ Jefferson+ 1rnd pick Indy 2017 + 2018 Wolves pick

Atlanta: M Ellis

Indy: 2rnd pick 2018 Nets

Indy signs Hayward and K Lowry

C: Turner
Pf: Young
SF: PG13
SG: Hayward
PG: K Lowry

15 Jun 2017 16:08:47
Solid idea. I didn't realize how much cap space Indy will have this summer.

15 Jun 2017 16:09:28
no way hawks trade Bazemore for Ellis.

15 Jun 2017 17:06:45
Hate to burst the bubble, but the Celtics own the Nets 2018 first round pick.

15 Jun 2017 17:14:30
My bad, the Nets 2nd Rd pick is listed not the 1st Rd pick. I apologize.

15 Jun 2017 17:20:28
forma. Plus Wolves 2018 1st.

15 Jun 2017 17:38:14
Add a 2nd rounder to the hawks and I think they'll accept.

15 Jun 2017 17:42:50
Atlanta could do the trade.
D Howard likes Ellis and he's on a cheaper contract.

15 Jun 2017 18:28:06
Pacers have almost 79 mil in contracts to 13 players next season, they rid themselves of 21 mil from Big Al and Ellis. Hayward 30 mil
Lowry 25-30 mil

They are way over the cap up near the threshold.

Pacers trade for young inexpensive players and picks and build around Miles Turner.

15 Jun 2017 20:37:07
Excluding team option, the Pacers are at 65 Million total for the roster giving them roughly 40 million to spend if they don't resign any of their free agents . If they dealt those two players they would have over 60 million in cap space.

15 Jun 2017 23:02:10
Rkenne_16, I think your numbers are estimated incorrectly. I used spotrac. com and came to $48 million in cap space if this trade were to happen (although I doubt Atlanta does it) . The cap is to be $101mm and the current cap for Indiana is $74mm. if they renounce the rights to Jeff Teague, CJ Miles, and Aaron Brooks. Then after shedding $21mm in this trade they would be at $53mm. $48mm in space. Lowry and Gordon H. Are not coming to town for a combined $48mm.

14 Jun 2017 17:38:03
ATL - POR - PHI

ATL get: POR 1st DP 2017, Jahlil Okafor, and Allen Crabbe
Draft: TJ Leaf (15) and Justin Jackson (19)
Let Milsap opt out.
Resign: THJ
Tank for #1 Pick next year.

pg. THJ
sg. Crabbe
sf. Jackson
pf. Leaf
c. Okafor

POR get: Dwight Howard

pg. Lillard
sg. McCollum
sf. Aminu
pf. Nurkic
c. Howard

PHI get: Dennis Schroeder and Meyers Leonard
Draft: Jayson Tatum

pg. Schroeder
sg. Simmons
sf. Tatum
pf. Saric
c. Embiid

14 Jun 2017 17:54:54
Hard pass for Portland and Philly needs to give way more.

14 Jun 2017 18:07:40
No way I'd take Howard, especially not with Nurkic at center already. I don't think the two would work well together. Let alone the drama Howard brings. Overall a hard pass.

14 Jun 2017 19:58:44
Pretty bad for all teams involved except 76ers.

14 Jun 2017 20:51:59
Simmons a shorting guard 😂.