Atlanta Hawks Rumours

19 Apr 2018 02:29:59
Cavs if Lebron goes bye bye

Trade Kevin love to philly for Dario Saric,Jerry's Bayless,pick 10,pick 38,furkan Korkmaz,Justin Anderson,2022 sixers 1st top 9 protected


George hill to Minnesota for pick 58,Jeff Teague,Justin Patton

Trade Tristan Thompson, 2 2nds to Atlanta for 2023 2nd

Lebron James signs with Houston Rockets 2yr 75mil sign and trade Eric Gordon,zhou qi,2020 1st

Brooklyn pick lands 3 trade down to 6 Chicago and Kyle kroverfor pick 6,pick 22,2019 bulls pick top 6 protected,jerian grant

Buy out jr smith

Trade Eric Gordon to Portland for pick 26,Cale's Swanigan,Myers Lenord
Draft

6-Collin Sexton

10-Mikal Bridges

22-Zaire smith

26-Mitchell Robinson

38-Jevon carter

58-josh okogie

Sign a bunch of g league prospects,young players

18 Apr 2018 15:19:53
Atlanta rebuilt
Draft: doncic and R Williams
Sign Hood and Nurkic to a 3y 72 M ( 20M/ 24M/ 28,8M)

C: Nurkic/ Williams/ Plumlee
PF: Collins/Cavanaugh
SF:Doncic/Bazemore
SG:Hood/ Bazemore
Pg: Schroder/Taylor

18 Apr 2018 16:41:19
That's an overpay for Hood and Nurkic. Even if you factor in that they're restricted.

18 Apr 2018 16:52:47
If Atlanta wants Nurkic, I think it would take about that for Portland to not match. Clearly an overpay, but Portland would match ~60 million. Same probably goes with Hood.

Both of those contracts would be devastating to Portland, Cleveland, and Atlanta in the long run I think. Cleveland and Portland would lose guys that they see as building blocks. Atlanta would have two enormous contracts and guys that aren’t stars attached to them. But that’s how you get free agents when you’re a bottom tier team.

18 Apr 2018 17:09:14
Those are big contracts, but it's only for three years.
I believe Nurkic can be a 20-10 guy in Atlanta.

18 Apr 2018 19:42:02
If Atlanta is trying to rebuild then it wouldn't make sense to just throw money at players. Rodney Hood is definitely not worth 3 yr/ 72 mil, plus he's already 25 and hasn't really made significant improvements over his career. Nurkic could make sense, but I don't know how great of a fit he would be next to John Collins.

17 Apr 2018 21:24:15
Took some time working on possible trades for the hawks tell me if you think their possible or realistic.

Trades involving Plumlee

1)Knicks receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Joakim Noak, Pick 37 2018 draft, and possibly a future 2nd

Pros Knicks receive a center who is willing to play and 6 Mill in cap and about 7 mill the following year
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a defensive minded center who could be a mentor for John Collins

2)Magic receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Bismack Biyombo and pick 41 in 2018 draft.

Pros magic receive 4.5 mill in cap for the next 3 years which could be useful in Aaron Gordons free agency or for another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft pick and 25 year old who is a little bit more in line with their time line

3) Wizards receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Mahinmi and pick 44 in 2018 draft

Pros Wizards receive around 4.2 mill in cap this year which they could really use what with other bad contracts as well as a younger center
Pros Hawks receive draft pick

4)Rockets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Ryan Anderson and pick 46 and possibly a future 2nd or 1st

Pros Rockets receive 7.1 mill this year and around 8 and 9 mill for the next two years respectively and for a LBJ pursuit this could be valuable
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a possible shooting mentor for John Collins

5)Lakers receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks recieve Loul Deng pick 47 and future 2nd

Pros Lakers gain 4.7 in cap this year and around 5 mill in the next two years and with a club going after cap its a win
Pros Hawks gain draft picks and mentor

6)Memphis Receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Chandler Parsons Ivan Rabb and pick 32

Pros Memphis gains 11.5 mill in cap which could help sign a decent free agent
Pros Hawks get a pick and a young player

7) Pelicans receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Solomon Hill and ether Etwaun Moore or Alexis Ajinca and pick 51 and possibly a future heavy protected first

Pros Pels receive between 4.5 and 8.2 in cap depending on which second player is put in giving them much needed cap space for boogie or another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft picks

8) Suns receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Brandon Knight and Jared Dudley with pick 16 or pick 51 and a future 1st round pick

Pros suns receive 11 mill in cap and get rid of an older player out of their time line
Pros hawks receive draft picks a okay pg who if schroder gets traded could replace as the starter and a menter in dudley for Prince

9) Nets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Timofey Mozgov and pick 45

Pros Nets receive a younger center and gain 2.8 in cap this year and around 3-3.8 mill the next two years
Pros Hawks gain draft pick.

17 Apr 2018 22:13:48
I Like the magic trade.

17 Apr 2018 22:28:48
I don't agree with a few of the scenarios but i definitely respect the depth of thought involved

In the scenario with the Pels it just would not work out when Boogie re-signs. It would leave Darius Miller as your only true SF and would not give them the cap room to sign a decent SF in FA. Pels have to continue growth or risk losing AD

Of all the scenarios i see Houston as most likely maybe Memphis second most.

17 Apr 2018 22:54:08
Maybe Minnesota for Dieng?

18 Apr 2018 00:22:09
10) Minnesota receives Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Grogui Deng and Pick 48 and future second due to his contract being one year longer than plumlees

Pros Wolves gain 2-5 mill over the next four years
Pros Hawks gain draft picks.

17 Apr 2018 21:19:06
Took some time working on possible trades for the hawks tell me if you think their possible or realistic.

1)Knicks receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Joakim Noah and pick 37 in 2018 nba draft

Pros knicks receive about 5.3 in cap this year and around 6-7 mill for the following two years as well as a center who is willing to play
Pros Hawks receive draft pick and a defensive minded center who could be a mentor for John Collins who needs help on the defensive side

17 Apr 2018 21:28:44
Im not sure ATL would bite so early. This could be a potential deal at trading deadline. Idiot ny management must learn to change their mentality about how to treat players they don't want. Start playing them more to increase their trade value. With Porzingis likely out until next January and kanter considering opting out. Noah should see more playing time. So this trade could happen in 2019. But not before that.

17 Apr 2018 02:25:55
MIA/PHX/ATL

MIA get Tyson Chandler & TJ Warren
- Chandler will serve as Adebayo's mentor and they get a young talented wing in Warren

Pg Dragic/Johnson
Sg Richardson/Wade/Waiters
Sf Warren/Babbitt
Pf Johnson/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Chandler

PHX get Hassan Whiteside, Dennis Shroeder & 4th pick
- get their CE & PG to move 3 spots in a deep draft
- draft Marvin Bagley or Justin Jackson

Pg Shroeder/Ulis
Sg Booker/Daniels
Sf Jackson/Dudley
Pf Bagley/Chriss
Ce Whiteside/Bender/Len

ATL get 1st pick & Brandon Knight
- draft Ayton

17 Apr 2018 05:00:02
I don't think the heat give up Whiteside for Warren and Chandler. Also Atlanta doesn't get #1 Just for throwing in Schroeder. Knight contract I expiring so pic is better of either packaging it for a star or keeping him.

17 Apr 2018 06:55:41
USA, You said it yourself that this was a deep draft. So why would the hawks trade away their best player (a 24 year old locked down on a very friendly $15.5 mil contract for the next 3 years) and absorb Knights awful contract (in terms of player value) for the next two years if they can get a solid prospect with the 4th pick? Suns need to be giving up more.

17 Apr 2018 07:32:46
how about i add Ulis to Hawks?

17 Apr 2018 19:10:13
@jdp knight’s contract is thru 19-20.

15 Apr 2018 03:32:24
Atlanta get Gasol(buyout), Brandon Paul, and the 2019 Sacramento 1st

The Clippers get Ojeleye, Nader, Nader, Mills, White and the Spurs 18 1st plus 12 million in Savings

The Celtics get Leonard

The Spurs get Jordan, Williams, Tatum, Morris, and Schroeder

Spurs line up

Schroeder/Murray/Parker
Green/Williams/ Ginobli
Tatum/Gay/Anderson
Aldridge/Morris
Jordan/lauvergne

15 Apr 2018 06:45:33
rkenne_16 seem good trade for spurs but sound bad trade to clippers.

15 Apr 2018 18:14:29
I don't think Tatum, an expiring Morris, and a top 10 1st round pick is enough for Leonard.

14 Apr 2018 22:59:16
Hawks - Knicks

Hawks gets:
9th pick (Knicks)
2020 2nd rd pick (Hornets)
Noah

Knicks gets:
19th (Timberwolves)
30th (Rockets)
2019 1st rd pick (Cavs)

Hawks gets another lottery pick and take on Noah's final two year salary.

Knicks move back in the draft, get another first this year and get more cap space this summer.

15 Apr 2018 01:10:14
Take the future 1st out and swap the 30th for a 2nd and it's not bad.

15 Apr 2018 01:48:40
Hawks giving up too much value to take back Noahs guaranteed $38 million. Not even close.

15 Apr 2018 04:11:19
Y would knicks do this unless the swap noah for their center.

12 Apr 2018 16:48:47
ATL: Bazemore + 1st rd pick MIN

for

MIN: Wiggins.

12 Apr 2018 18:17:55
Salaries don't match. Before or after Wiggins 24 mil kicks in.

12 Apr 2018 18:59:24
Salaries don't have to matchif you have room to absorb a contract. Even so, bazemores 19m + pick apx 2m is within the 120%.

12 Apr 2018 19:16:35
My mistake, It would work if after their next season deals kick in. ATL falls way below cap. (70m) Their salaries are aprox. 6m apart after Wiggins, and Bazemore deals kick in, but because ATL is taking in more it wouldn't be a problem. Gain an exception. ATL essentially draft for MIN. Interesting. Good way for MIN to move on from Wigs if that's their plan.

12 Apr 2018 19:21:17
MIN would get the exception.

12 Apr 2018 19:56:37
I think it takes a little more.

12 Apr 2018 20:30:59
Atlanta should trow in a little extra.

13 Apr 2018 01:02:19
How about Atlanta keep the pick, and do Wiggins for Bazemore and Prince?

Rumor had it Atlanta was willing to move Prince at the deadline.

Instead of getting a first and drafting another rookie, they get guy who can help now. Butler, Bazemore, and Prince would be a pretty good defensive group on the wing, with some versatility with Prince able to play PF as well. Then, with their 1st from OKC, they can draft either a combo guard or 3 point shooter.

13 Apr 2018 04:26:04
I like it. Minnesota gets a well-rounded wing and a mid-first pick. Atlanta gets a solid scorer to build around.

13 Apr 2018 05:34:33
Prince would be ideal for MIN defensively.

10 Apr 2018 22:02:02
The Hawks get Jr Smith(buyout), Korver, Zizic, the Cavs 2021 and 2023

Give up Bazemoore and Schroeder


The Nuggets get Love, Gobert, Schroeder, Sefolosha, and Epke

Give up Millsapp, Jokic, Harris, Plumlee, and Faried


The Jazz Get Jokic, Thompson, Clarkson and Cedi Osman

Give up Gobert, Sefolosha, and Epke


The Cavs get Millsapp, Harris, Plumlee and Bazemoore

The Cavs give up Love, Osman, Clarkson, Jr, Korver, Zizic, the Cavs 2021 and 23 1st

10 Apr 2018 22:14:56
Cavs trade Thompson as well*.

11 Apr 2018 00:12:49
rkennen_16 i don't see i don't think nuggets willing to give up their franchise player jokic.

06 Apr 2018 04:23:17
Cavs offseason unrealistic

Trade Jordan Clarkson,Cedi Osman,Ante Zizic,Brooklyn 1st for Kawhi Leonard

Trade Tristan Thompson and 2 2nds to Atlanta for pick 30

Trade jr smith to philly for pick 39

Trade Kyle krover to okc for Terrance Ferguson,pick 57

Draft

30-Mitchell Robinson.

39-hamidou Diallo

57-tony Carr

Free agency
Sign Paul George 2yr 52mil

Sign Deandre Jordan 2yr 33mil

Sign Jonathan Holmes 3yr 4.2mil

Sign sir don pointer 3yr 4mil

Sign Dylan Ennis 2way contract

Resign everybody vet min except Rodney Hood can walk

Sign some more vets

Trade Kevin love to the pacers for Corey Joseph,al Jefferson,Ike anibogou,2019 1st,2021 1st top 11 protected

06 Apr 2018 06:18:44
I'm confused I don't know whether to check the believable, or unbelievable box. The heading starts out: CAV's offseason unrealistic. Altman would be GM of the decade. Comparable to hitting the lottery twice in a month. Especially if the draftee's pan out.

06 Apr 2018 09:42:58
Basically he saying this his Cavs pipe dream. I feel bad for his son, but Lebron does not want to play for this owner beyond this yr, unfortunately for us Knicks fans he probably hates Dolan more than us Knicks fans. He could join the Lakers potentially.

06 Apr 2018 13:49:33
You’re a Knicks fan? Why are your trades so awful for the Knicks then?

06 Apr 2018 13:53:28
This Cavs/ Spurs deal has been posted before, and it has not become any more believable now than it was a couple of days ago. Again, Clarkson, bad (not horrible) contract, Zizic and Osman, good but not great prospects, and pick 7, nice, but not enough to entice the Spurs to make the deal based on the players included.

06 Apr 2018 14:33:38
J R Smith and Korver don't get you picks. You might have to give picks to get rid of them.

06 Apr 2018 16:34:58
Triangle O, that is pretty funny. I have seen this trade 3 times minimum already, maybe 4.

02 Apr 2018 19:34:40
Miami-pick 30,George hill,Ante Zizic

Atlanta-Tristan Thompson, 2 2nds,Jordan Mickey

Cavs-Hassan Whiteside

02 Apr 2018 20:09:29
Where is the pick coming from? The Cavs don't have a 2nd 1st this year. They traded it to the Lakers. I think Miami could do better and I just don't see it for Atlanta. I also don't see Hill is expendable right now for the Cavs. He's one of the few good defenders for the Cavs and they really don't have another pg that can play starting minutes at point. Clarkson can play some back up minutes at point, but you can really depend on him to create for other players. He's more of a sg than pg and while Calderon has given them solid minutes, he's a million years old. Maybe, they could use the Brooklyn pick on Young, Sexton, or Gilgeous-Alexander, but if Lebron is back I'm not sure you can count on one of those guys to come in and start. Plus, young is really the only one that can shoot and play next to Lebron, but he's also a guy that you have to protect on defense. Even with Whiteside, I'm not sure the Cavs can really do that.

02 Apr 2018 20:58:47
The pick 30 is coming from Atlanta.

02 Apr 2018 21:37:36
I don't see them giving up a 1st for Tristan. He's overpayed and has been falling off the last year and a half.

03 Apr 2018 02:03:06
Hill Thompson 4th for whiteside.

01 Apr 2018 13:43:35
Phoe: Schroder

Atl: B Knight+ Chriss+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018

01 Apr 2018 13:57:07
I like the concept for both teams, but if I'm Atlanta, I probably push for either Warren instead of Chriss or Knight to be out of the deal. Maybe they could find middle forums at Dudley or Chandler's expiring deals instead.

01 Apr 2018 14:58:19
Warren would be a good fit for Atlanta, but i'm not sure you can trade a player that have signed an extention.

01 Apr 2018 15:47:24
Maybe it's different once the extension kicks in, but I know players can be traded if they signed an extension and it hasn't kicked in yet. That's what the poinson pill provision is relating to. I would assume as long as they don't actually hit the market, you can still trade them.

30 Mar 2018 11:44:07
CHA - CLE - ATL

CHA get: Kevin Love, Dennis Schroeder, George Hill, and Future CLE 1st DP

Pg. Schroeder
Sg. Monk
Sf. Lamb
Pf. Love
C. Kaminsky

CLE get: Kemba Walker, Dwight Howard, and Kent Bazemore

Pg. Walker
Sg. Clarkson
Sf. Bazemore
Pf. James
C. Howard

ATL get: Nic Batum, Tristan Thompson, and BKN 2018 1st (CLE)

30 Mar 2018 14:01:38
ATL looks like they are getting hosed. Two point guards to CHA?

30 Mar 2018 14:46:37
The Cavs should pass on that. A lottery pick, a 2nd 1st, an allstar, and a good player in Hill for Kemba and 2 guys on fairly bad contracts seems like an overpay.

30 Mar 2018 16:08:14
Hill contract is like worse Noah contract, love's emotions l
Is messing with his physical health. For 2 expiring contract is a gift. I would we send HILL atl. And make Cleveland keep Thompson.

30 Mar 2018 17:21:10
Hill is an expiring contract next year.

30 Mar 2018 23:26:11
Shizzee with another awesome reply! Bro Knicks get Noah till his contract is over or they buy him out! He’s not being traded and nobody has a more horrific front office so you probably won't even buy him out, quit adding him in trades unless it’s unicorn, Noah for devin Harris that’s the max you’re getting.

24 Mar 2018 04:59:30
Knicks off-season

Trade noah,thomas and #9 pick to Atlanta for dennis Schroeder

Atlanta gets 4 1st rns picks and knicks get there point guard finally

Knicks trade nilikina to magic for terrance ross



Knicks let kanter walk

Sign
Will barton-4 yr 40 mill
Greg monroe-3 yr 21 mill

Re sign o quinn and beasley


2018/19 lineup

Dennis schroder/Trey burke
Tim Hardaway/Courtney lee
Will bartonterrance ross
Kristaps porzingismichael beasley
Greg monroe/kyle o quinn

24 Mar 2018 11:26:51
As much as I would trade Ross for him, salaries aren't close.

24 Mar 2018 13:14:59
No thanks on the Frank for T-Ross deal, and Barton is getting more than that.

24 Mar 2018 14:37:17
Triangle, I'm not sure Barton gets much more than that given the climate this offseason. I just saw something saying 5 teams will have cap space. I'm not sure how correct it is, but their will definitely be less than 10 teams and most of them are the rebuilding teams. They aren't going to pay a 27 year old big money and that leaves the MLE for him in free agency.

I do agree trading Ntilikina doesn't make sense here though.

22 Mar 2018 09:55:14
Indy: Harkless+Schroder

Portland:/

Atlanta: Jefferson+ 1rnd pick Indy+1rnd pick Portland

22 Mar 2018 12:06:39
/ is a solid player, Portland may need to give up more

22 Mar 2018 13:12:42
They're over the cap, they want to give up more.

22 Mar 2018 13:42:14
Of the 37 mil mistake POR made, Harkless is the best value. Maybe if it was M. Leonard. He is a starter in POR. He's shooting 38% from 3 this season. The way he's been playing for the last 12 he's worth his 10 mil salary.

22 Mar 2018 15:48:44
Well, I was just looking for a bad contract. Leonard is fine too. He can be a good backup for Sabonis
Indy can sign Reddick to a 20M 2y contract (10M a year)

Indy: Sabonis/ Leonard
PF: Turner/ Leaf
SF:Bogdanovic/ L Stephenson
SG: Oladipo/ Reddick
PG:Schroder/ C Joseph.

23 Mar 2018 18:17:42
Watching Harkless the last two months, I wouldn’t give up a first to unload him. He’s not worth the money he’s paid, but he’s not a non factor like Leonard is. Also, Portland can’t afford to give away wings, they’re already incredibly thin there.

18 Mar 2018 15:45:31
If Atlanta, Orlando, Sacramento or Cleveland (assuming Lebron walks) lands the 1st overall.

The Celtics trade the Boston 2018 pick, the Sacramento pick, the Memphis pick, and the Clippers pick for the 1st overall and draft Ayton

18 Mar 2018 20:11:26
Ainge might do that. The MEM, LAC picks have a window of conveying, so this might be a good idea. I like the spacing for adding talent the SAC pick gives BOS though by being next season. How much of a gambler is Ainge, and how much does he like the crop of draftee's this season. There's good talent on the cheap at 27-or better this season.

18 Mar 2018 20:16:33
I was mistaken, The MEM conveys eventually no matter what, so 3 first's guaranteed for 1, #1 overall? Nah. Ainge wouldn't do that probably.

18 Mar 2018 21:04:16
The only pick that's guaranteed to be in the lottery is the Sacramento pick. The Clippers pick at best is in the late lottery and at worst would be in the mid 20s. The same could be said for Memphis and Boston's pick will be late. Ayton could be the final piece they need to truly compete for a title. Plus, there is little doubt that Ayton can do it on the offensive end. His defense needs to improve and Stevens is a coach that can help him do that and the Celtics' defensive culture should do a lot towards him buying in.

19 Mar 2018 00:10:24
I bet BOS would take Bagley over Ayton. It doesn't matter, Ainge isn't falling for his own 1 pick for 2 trick anyway. Let alone 3, possibly 4 for 1. Seems unlikely anyway.

19 Mar 2018 03:18:58
Lottery-shmottery. 3-1sts, and 1 maybe 1st, for 1, #1 overall is a ridiculous price to pay. Ainge pulls that trick on others, not on himself. Draft Bamba, or Bagley, or Carter jr. If defense, and PF/ C is the need of BOS, why a project? I think Ayton is a good player/ young prospect, but maybe a bit hyped kinda like T. Young. Ayton is definitely not Embid-like. #1 also comes with a 10 mil/ per price tag. BOS would likely have to let go of Smart, or others. The timing of next seasons SAC pick gives them another full season, and this year's playoffs to analyze talent, and formulate a hypothesis on who to keep, let go, and draft. This years pick is just bonus. Who knows LAC could make playoffs, and they get another @ #15.

19 Mar 2018 04:05:51
Jorga, the only pick that Boston will have is their own this year unless they get extremely lucky in the lottery. I just think it would take that kind of haul for a team to move the first and not end up still being in the top 5.

I just don't see Bagley being the guy they take. They need a bigger center that could be a good defender and rim protector in the NBA. I'm just not sure Bagley has the tools to really be that in the NBA. I also think Ayton's upside is just so much higher than Bagley's. Bagley has the smoother game right now, but Ayton is the better athlete and has much better size.

Also, the Celtics have 7 or 8 players on their roster that are under 25 plus they have Horford, Gordon, and Irving that are all part of their long term plans. Will they even have space or minutes to develop 5 draft picks in the next 2 year? Especially, their own picks that will be late in the first and if the Clippers or Memphis picks land later in the draft. I think at some point they're going to have to package some of them to move up in the draft or in a trade for a super star. Their roster just doesn't have much room.

19 Mar 2018 10:48:51
I like Ayton going to the Celtics for that package, but i agree with Jorga that Ainge wouldn't do that.

If he trade those picks, it's for a star.

16 Mar 2018 08:28:22
Portland Darkhorse to land LBJ? any possibility?

need to clear room

POR/ATL

POR get highly protected 2nd rd pick & Dewayne Dedmon

ATL get Evan Turner & Zach Collins

ATL get Collins to play with his brother while taking 2yrs of Turner

POR/DAL

POR get 2nd rd pick

DAL get 1st round pick & Myers Leonard

POR/CLE

POR get st LeBron James

CLE get Moe Harkless

POR sign Jahlil Okafor min
sign Ed Davis back

POR

Pg Lillard/Napier
Sg McCollum/Connaughton
Sf James/Layman
Pf Aminu/Davis/Swanigan
Ce Nurkic/Okafor

16 Mar 2018 13:19:03
Lillard has a much higher chance of going to CLE, and joining Lebron there, than James playing in POR. James is a big city/ big market guy. It's one of the main reasons L. A. Or NY has a shot at him even though all 4 teams in those city's are in rebuild mode.

16 Mar 2018 13:23:40
It'll take a lot more than Zach Collins to dump Evan Turner's contract. No one wants to pay him $17-18M/ season. I like the second trade with Dallas. Only slight change is to put a protection on the 1st. And why in the world would Cleveland take Moe Harkless for LeBron. I think the Cavaliers rather lose LeBron for nothing than to take back Harkless.

16 Mar 2018 14:31:58
Why would the Cavs want Harkless? They'll already be near the luxury tax if they resign Hood and Harkless makes no sense during a rebuild. He's not all that young, doesn't have much upside, isn't a star player, and has little secondary trade value. Plus, if the Cavs would need to get some serious assets back for them to be willing to help a team acquire Lebron.

27 Mar 2018 20:38:46
There's a lot wrong with this suggestion, especially when you said that Zach Collins brother plays in the NBA. because he doesn't.

15 Mar 2018 05:23:29
If ATL gets the #1 pick and sun's get 4-6

PHX trades #4 + Jackson

For #1

15 Mar 2018 05:35:01
Phoenix isn't going to trade Jackson unless someone offers something nonsensically big . He's improved as the year has went on after a slow start and has the physical tools to be a really good player. I could see them trading anything except Jackson and Booker to move up.

15 Mar 2018 07:01:31
I'd keep Jackson over Warren. They play the same position. Deal Knight, Warren PHX pick for Shroeder, and ATL pick. Overpay on part of PHX, but ditches Knight, and salary for I think a better PG in Shroeder. Might get it done though. Prince, and Warren play same position is the main hang up I see, and rumored Shroeder "difficulties"

15 Mar 2018 13:13:03
There’s too much depth at the top of the draft to trade up from 4 to 1. I just don’t see a reason for Phoenix to give away Jackson.

15 Mar 2018 13:31:09
The only reason you would do this as Phoenix is if you REALLY had a thing for Doncic. You're going to be able to get a scoring big man at 4 almost no matter what at this point. The big question is, are they just going to be added to the heap with Chriss and Bender, or are they all clearly ranked above them? They obviously have some sort of issue with developing big men, as those two definitely have talent, if not polish.

15 Mar 2018 14:28:16
Seems like you're assuming that Phoenix has THE number one pick. That won't be decided until the lottery. They may have a great shot at it, but you can't assume they will get it.

15 Mar 2018 15:08:11
Agreed Yumbo, but you meant ATL though right?

15 Mar 2018 16:52:23
Yes, right. Lol that's why I hate responding to these on my phone. Dammit.

15 Mar 2018 16:58:59
@Dib731, Jackson and Booker are the Suns core players. I also can't see Phoenix trading Jackson, To move up from 4 to 1.

11 Mar 2018 16:11:36
Cavs offseason if Lebron leaves

Brooklyn pick lands 3 trade jr smith and pick 3 to Chicago for pick 6,pick 21, jerian grant,20191st top 5 protected

Trade Kevin love to Miami for bam adbeyo,Justice Winslow,Tyler Johnson,dion waiters

Buy 2 nds 35,43,57

Draft

6-mo Bamba

22-Troy Brown

35-rawle alkins

43-josh Okogie

57- Joel berry

Free agency

Lebron James s&t Lebron,George hill to philly for Markelle Fultz,Jerryd Bayless,tmithew lawou carbout,2020 1st

Jeff green signs with nuggets 3yr 20mil

Jose chalderon 1yr vet min with philly

Rodney Hood 4yr 60 mil with Indy

Sign aurtuas gudatis 3yr 9mil

Sign sir Dominic pointer 2yr 3mil

Sign jontay porter 2 way contract

Sign Vander blue 2yr 4 mill

Trade Tristan Thompson and 2nds to Atlanta for cash

Sign Jordan McRae 1yr 1mil

Sign Willie reed 2yr 10mil

Sign Trevor Ariza 1yr 13mil

Finish- 15-67 draft rj Barrett,Cameron reddish

11 Mar 2018 17:09:57
A few problems I see, I'm not sure Chicago would be willing to do that trade, but if they were the Cavs should 100 percent do it.

The Cavs aren't going to get that in a sign and trade with Philly. They don't have to do it and Bayless is expiring next year anyway. Plus you can't trade another player with a player being s and ted.

I don't like the Love trade. Only because Tyler Johnson is going to be grossly overpaid next year. I'm not even sure the money would work over the summer, but if it did, I'm not sure it's worth it. They'd be much better off keeping finding a cheaper trade for Love and resigning Hood with their savings.

11 Mar 2018 17:14:58
I don’t like the trade for Chicago. This draft is supposed to be top 6-7 heavy. I wouldn’t give up that much to move within that top area.

12 Mar 2018 05:28:54
Terrible trade for CHI. 6 is a good pick. Porter Jr. Could be available at that spot. Lots of big men in this draft too. Perfect for CHI. Lopez, and Feliciano are awful, and expensive.

04 Mar 2018 03:46:46
Cavs rebuild if Lebron leaves

Trade jr smith to philly for the 17th pick,59th

Trade Kevin love to Milwaukee for John Henson,Mathew delodova, dj Wilson,2019 2nd,2020 1st top 13 protected

Trade Kyle krover detriot for a 2019 1st top 10 protected

Lebron joins philly so s&tlebron james,George hill for Jaryd Bayless,7th pick for lakers,2019 philly 1st,2020 2nd,2021 1st pottery protected,2023 2nd,Timothy lawfully carbot,furkan Korkmaz

Trade Tristan Thompson and 2nds to Atlanta for cash considerations

Draft

4th-
Draft micheal porter jr

7th-draft jaren Jackson jr

17th-Daniel gadford

Buy some 2nd rounders

38th de'anthony Melton

42 Arron holiday

46 dzanan Musa

56 Theo Pinson

59 vj king

Free agency

Let Rodney Hood walk for salary cap reasons

Sign Carl Landry to 1yr 3 million

Sign mario charmers 1 yr 7 mil

Sign Jontay porter to a two way contract

Sign sir Dominic pointer to a two way contract

Sign Aurtuas gudaitis to a 3yr 12 mil

Resign London Perrantes

04 Mar 2018 06:35:51
No one is giving a 1st rounder for Jr Smith. That's a fact.

04 Mar 2018 07:12:17
Smith and Korver can’t return a first. S&T Lebron isn’t getting back 3 firsts (maybe one future first), and the return on love isn’t enough. It’s all just bad.

04 Mar 2018 08:54:38
This is trade ideas for the real NBA not 2K.

04 Mar 2018 14:00:33
Th Sixers aren’t doing a sign and trade for Lebron. You do that to shed salary. Alll this Sixers are doing is what, giving up 10 picks?

This whole post is moronic.

04 Mar 2018 14:36:27
The only way I can see a sign and trade with Philly for Lebron is if the Cavs are willing to take Bayless and I'm not sure it would be worth it for the Cavs to take on his salary for whatever small asset the 76ers would be willing to give up.
Jr and Tristan will be hard to trade. Specifically, Tristan would be since he has 2 full years remaining.
Korver isn't going to fetch more than a 2 and some cap relief.
I don't see the Cavs being interested in the Love trade. Delly and Henson are both on unappealing contracts and that pick would probably end up being really late in the 1st.

04 Mar 2018 14:40:28
With one or two small moves, Philly can clear up the cap space needed to sign LeBron, why give up picks galore for him.

Also, 1st's for Smith and Korver are just ridiculous. If a team offers a 1st for either, that team's GM should be fired immediately.

04 Mar 2018 15:17:47
The Bucks say No! As bad as the contracts are for Henson and Dellavedova, They aren't going to give up Henson, Dellavedova, D. J. Wilson, a 2nd. rd Pick and a 1st. rd pick for Love. He just isn't worth it. Milwaukee can wait for the draft!

04 Mar 2018 19:20:49
You wouldn’t give up bad contracts and a protected first for an all star?!? That’s just crazy. Also, an all star that seems to fit with Giannis (and has played with a similar star the last few years) .

04 Mar 2018 22:46:47
Hello Bmiller66, and just where would Love play? Center? (He can handle any current Centers in the League now! ) PF? That's where Giannis A. is currently playing, So Love is better than Giannis A.? Love who will be 30 in a couple of months, is making close to 23 Million a year. So, You still think giving up 3 players, a 2nd, and a 1st rd pick is worth it? Now, "That's! " just crazy!

05 Mar 2018 01:47:13
The Dark Side, anyone can adjust. Giannis can play multiple position. Love definitely will fit right next to him. And also, the players they gave up are not superstars.

Bledsoe, Middleton, Giannis, Love, Zeller starting line up would be good, some small ball of Bledsoe, Brogdon, Middleton, Giannis, Love

If they can sign a cheap starting caliber center that would be a really good squad.

05 Mar 2018 02:07:34
Darkside, Love can handle most NBA centers and isn't going to get abused on the boards. Unless Parker makes a fairly big leap and stays healthy, he would be their 2nd best player. He's a player that would fit well next to Giannis at the 4 or the 5. The Bucks give up 2 mildly bad contracts, a young player that has shown little in his first year, a mid 20s 1st, and a pick that could be bought. If that's the price, it's a great deal for the Bucks and if Parker gets a huge offer this offseason, it's a better option than maxing him out.

05 Mar 2018 04:25:30
rkeene, Love can handle "MOST" NBA Centers? love has a hard time handling most NBA PF's! He averages maybe 8-9 boards a game. There are guards and SF's that average that. Love would be the Bucks 2nd best player? HA HA HA! Not hardly, Sorry. Why did the Cav's take Love out when he was "Their" starting Center? again rkeene, I understand that the Cavs are your team But, really?

USA, Love would fit right next to Giannis A.? Not really, too S-L-O-W, for one thing. can't guard Opposing Centers at the 5 position, Has trouble with PF's, and again is to S-L-O-W to guard any SF or guard, So, just where would Love adjust to? The Bucks are trying to get Parker back into the starting lineup, plus Just WHO is the "Cheap Starting Caliper Center" you are talking about? Thanks for the replies!

05 Mar 2018 05:00:59
Is Giannis really a PF? That doesn’t feel like his natural position. He’s a ball dominant wing. they're a great fit together with a center.

How much faith do you have in Parker? Any left at all? If so, start a PG, Giannis, Parker, Love, and a center. That’s a starting lineup that can cause matchup issues.

And you act like “3 players” means anything. None of them have any true value. The second rounder has little value. And the first is protected. What value are you giving up that’s worth an all star? Even if you think he isn’t a great fit, how is this not an improvement in overall talent and value to the team?

05 Mar 2018 06:13:25
Hello Bmiller66, Now, and yes, Giannis IS a PF. RE: That doesn't feel like his natural position" What do you think is? he can and has played all 5 positions. As far as a great fit with a Center, Who? Love? Love is NOT a Center! Again, he's too slow, Has a difficult time with PF's. That's why the majority of Loves shots are jumpers. Not much inside at all. As far as Parker, He's just coming back. Goes up and down with Milwaukee's G League. Your starting 5 of "A" PG, (MMMmm? Bledsoe? ) Giannis, Parker, Love AND a center? So, Giannis, Parker, and Love can cause matchup issues with "A PG, and A Center" (Any PG or Any Center will do? ) Love also has an issue with defense, so, who is going to help him out? "Any PG or Any Center? " As far as the 3 players having no true value. They must have some, They are playing pro ball. All of you Cav fans keep calling Love an allstar. Those days are far behind him! 30 yrs old, and close to 23 Mil. a year? Who wants to take that on? I see a lot of other comments here by you, rkeene_16, and others also trying to trade Love. Why? If he's THAT GREAT, why not keep him, fractured hand and all! Bottom line, Love would NOT be an added value, or talent to the team. Like everyone else, Milwaukee also wants to get younger players Not those who are just looking for a check, based on Passed performances. Please pass this last messages along to all the other Cav. fans, This just in, If J. R. Smith wants to go out to eat, Make him order a "Salad" it won't hurt as much when he gets upset again! Be safe!

05 Mar 2018 08:26:25
It's funny how many times a person click disagree to every argument. Okay BMiller and Rkenne, let us just shut up and also let the Bucks remain where they are. They are a perfect team already :)

05 Mar 2018 13:43:35
FYI, I’m a blazer fan, and would love to have Love as their starting PF. Definitely not a Cavs fan.

Love is an all star, as in, he made the all star game this year. That’s what makes someone an “all star” right?

Yes, those guys are in the NBA. Meyers Leonard also is in the nba, so he has trade value right?

05 Mar 2018 14:07:07
The same trade from a Portland perspective:

Moe Harkless, ed Davis, swanigan, a second and a protected future first for Love. I’d take that in a second.

05 Mar 2018 15:59:36
Hello USA, What's really funny is, you think that Bmiller, rkeene_16, and yourself, are actual GM's! That these trades will actually happen! "Let us shut up and also let the Bucks remain where they are. They are a perfect team already :0" You actually think your opinion counts for a trade? Like some GM is going to read these comments and say "Look!1 LOOK! what USA Thinks what we should do, let's do that! " HA HA HA! Please understand, these comments are nothing more than for "grins and giggles" What all of have to say, doesn't mean squat! It won't happen! Its just what YOU want to happen, and nothing more! Take Bmiller66 last trade comment, "I'd take that in a second! " Well Bmiller66 YOU probably would, But, I doubt if the Blazers would! If any of can't see this as nothing more but entertainment, Maybe you should apply for an NBA agent? OR an NBA owner? here's a trade for you, the Bucks send J. Terry (40 yrs old) to the Blazers for Harkless, Davis, Swanigan, Their 1st and 2nd rd pick, for the next 5 years! Because, Harkless, Davis, and Swanigan really have NO value! The next trade would send Munford (Milwaukee's G-League 2 way player) to the Cavs. for L. James and Love, Who would then trade them both to the clippers for A. Rivers, etc. etc. etc. See! How easy, Bottom line, This is nothing more than a game, keep thinking your actual trade comments count! And thanks for the laugh!

05 Mar 2018 16:16:15
You can’t trade back to back picks, so that trade is illegal ;)

I obviously didn’t mean that they have no value, but they have no trade value, there’s a difference.

I really believe the only person that’s taking this too seriously is you. To me, it’s just a fun fan debate. It’s all fake and clearly isn’t going to happen. But it’s fun to see where guys are values and what could happen, see what kind of team you could realistically build. You are just completely over the top with your bias towards the Bucks, it kind of ruins the fun. I try to ignore, but sometimes I can’t.

05 Mar 2018 17:06:48
Hey The Dark Side, Maybe USA, RKenne and BMiller are not GM's but they provide some interesting comments and trade proposals. They don't start EVERY comment with "The Bucks say NO! " sort of like, well, like you do. Make a counter proposal or disagree but no need to make it personal or making some comment that they "think they are real GM's" When you do that you're making assumptions about people you don't even know.

05 Mar 2018 17:41:32
Hello dacman813, You stalking me? HA HA HA Sorry, I'm NOT into that "Bromance" thing! Understand this, Most peoples "Opinions" are just like most peoples "Backsides" The majority of them "Stink! " And yes, I believe the Bucks would say NO! to such bogus trade proposals! I've seen some of your comments also, maybe you also will get hired as a GM? The "Assumptions" are made on the comments, and nothing more. This is nothing more than Grins and Giggles as stated before. Anything else is fantasy Island! Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda, went out with spats and slow motion movies! Now, I'll be here waiting for the next GM move! Be safe!

05 Mar 2018 18:04:34
Of course its illegal, That's MY point! You guys try and make any type of trade, just to do it. I really believe NO one is going to call you and ask your opinion about a trade! Its really enjoyable reading these comments. A fun Fan debate? that doesn't mean squat, That's more like it, But, you say "I'm taking this too seriously? " Look at your own comments! :) I believe there is another site, that you could benefit more from, Its the " NBA Fantasy Trade League" You state MY bias towards the Bucks, Like yours with the Cavs.? Or the Blazers? Like that? So, Don't think of it as my bias, Think of it as yours with the theory that your opinions, and comments, would actually happen, and count! Be talking to you soon! Take care, and keep those trades coming!

05 Mar 2018 18:05:09
Also, this entire site is designed around being an arm chair GM. That’s the point!

05 Mar 2018 18:19:06
@ Bmiller, No doubt, My grandkids call it "Make Believe" same thing right? The difference is, My grandkids know it can never happen, Won't ever happen. So, Enjoy! But, an Arm Chair GM? look at the Headline, "NBA Trade Rumors" NOT make believe Rumors, OR What "I" want to happen Rumors. But, If that's what floats your boat, so be it. Just don't "upset when others criticize your theory, or comments, or proposals. Be safe, I'll wait for your reply!