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24 Feb 2017 16:57:57
Knicks Offseason


NYK- Chris Paul
LAC- Courtney Lee, 2017 6th pick.

NYK- Dwayne Wade
CHI- Wesley Matthews, Mindaugas Kuzminskas, 2019 NYK 1st (top 5 protected)
DAL- Joakim Noah, 2018 CHI 2nd



PG- Chris Paul
SG- Malik Monk
SF- Carmelo Anthony/Lance Thomas
PF- Kristaps Porzingis/Kyle O'Quinn
C- Joakim Noah/Willy Hernangomez

24 Feb 2017 16:37:40
Clippers Offseason


BOS- Blake Griffin
PHI- Avery Bradley
LAC- 1st pick (from BRK), Jae Crowder, Jalil Okafor, 2019 PHI 1st (top 5 protected).


LAC- Courtney Lee, 2018 1st (unprotected)
NYK- Chris Paul


Draft
1- PG, Lonzo Ball

PG- Lonzo Ball/Austin Rivers
SG- Courtney Lee/Jamal Crawford
SF- Jae Crowder/Wes Johnson
PF- Jalil Okafor/Luc Mbah a Moute
C- DeAndre Jordan/Maurice Speights

23 Feb 2017 17:49:34
Bos- Melo
Knicks- 18 Bos pk, Johnson, Zeller, Young.


Bos signs Bogut after 6er's buy him out.

23 Feb 2017 18:31:20
Boston has no need for Anthony.
Bogut, yes.

23 Feb 2017 18:42:57
This is true, but for that price Ainge would take him.

23 Feb 2017 16:08:38
Knicks Wolves
Rose and Noah
Rubio Muhammad Pekovic.

23 Feb 2017 20:50:15
At best Aldrich not Muhammed.

23 Feb 2017 15:06:00
Knicks


NYK- Ricky Rubio
MIN- Derrick Rose

The Knicks want Rubio (according to ESPN) and the Tibs want Rose back with him. The Wolves have extra cap so this trade works.

Offseason

Re-sign Brandon Jennings 2 years $24 million

Hes the offensive PG the Knicks need to pair with Rubio who is a distributor.


DRAFT
6th- SG, Malik Monk


PG- Ricky Rubio/Brandon Jennings
SG- Courtney Lee/Malik Monk
SF- Carmelo Anthony/Lance Thomas
PF- Kristaps Porzingis/Kyle O'Quinn
C- Joakim Noah/Willy Hernangomez

23 Feb 2017 13:21:12
Cavs go small ball.

Cavaliers get- Carmelo Anthony, Kyle O'Quinn.

Knicks get- Tristan Thompson, Jordan McRae, Iman Shumpert, 2021 1st, 2019 1st, trade exceptions. Also draft rights of Cedi Osman, Dom Pointer, Vladimeer Veremeenko, Edin Bavcic, Chu Maduabum, Illkan Karaman.

Irving/Liggins/Felder
Korver/Smith/Jones
Anthony/Jefferson/Williams
James/Frye
Love/O'Quinn

Rose/Jennings/Baker
Lee/Shumpert/McRae/Vujacic
Thomas/Kuzminskas/Holiday
Porzingis/Hernangomez/N'dour
Thompson/Noah/Plumlee

23 Feb 2017 13:50:22
I don't know about acquiring the draft rights to like62 players, especially as after a trade like this, the Cavs will have one first round pick between now and the time Kyrie retires, but the framework of the deal makes sense. None of the Cavs biggest competition runs out a dominant Center, so going small is fine.

23 Feb 2017 20:59:32
It's was bad enough last yr to dump Shumpert Smith for nothing. Now u want ny to do it again. Melo Noah for Shumpert Thompson fillers. Cavs can keep there 2031 picks you are prposing.

23 Feb 2017 05:32:13
knicks: greg monroe, wilson chandler and emanual mudiay

nuggets: tony snell, kyle o quinn, kuzminskas and 17 bucks 2nd rnd pick

bucks: rose, justin holiday, jamal murray and 17 knicks 1st rnd and 18 knicks 2nd rnd pick


knicks new lineup

Emanuel Mudiay-Brandon Jennings
Courtney Lee-Wilson Chandler
Carmelo Anthony-Lance Thomas
Greg Monroe-Willy Hernangomez
Kristaps Porzingis-Joakim Noah

23 Feb 2017 05:55:54
Ya let's screw over denver.

23 Feb 2017 08:59:21
Knicks won't trade their 2017 pick. Monroe is not a good pf (he can't defend pf) and with Monroe they wold probably want to trade Noah.

23 Feb 2017 13:53:29
Nuggets are not giving up Jamaal Murray for that package.

23 Feb 2017 21:00:36
Knicks can't trade 17 1st until after they the player.

23 Feb 2017 04:34:11
Wolves get Rose
Knicks get Wade Korver
Bulls get Rubio Lee
Cavs get Rondo

Draft day trade Mavs 41 mil cap space
Noah Ntilikina-7th
for
Hammons Smith Trimble-39th

O'Quinn Thomas 2018 1st for cap space

How to esemble 4 superstar team in NY
Wade opts out sign 4yr 72mil 15,17,19,21
Lebron & CP3 sign 4yr 112 mil 25,27,29,31. A 4 star team in ny market in advertising will overcome more money if they all maxed out elsewhere.
All 4 starts will make 90mil in 2017. All others salary 10 mil=102 mil cap
Knicks than sign MLE on Tony Allen and mini MCW

CP3/MCW/Trimble-35th
Wade/T.Allen/Bird-57th
Melo/Kuzminskas/Smith
Lebron/Porzingis/Hicks-44th
Plumlee/Hernangomez/Hammons

23 Feb 2017 05:36:25
Will it happen I dunno if Lebron leaves Cleveland. But he marches to different beat than anybody else. He already won a championship in Cleveland. If don't win a championship this yr. That team would have more pieces around Lebron than cavs or Warriors. Winning in ny after 40 yrs would make him equal Jordan his only competition. NY now worth 4 billion. Team value will triple. Once again the Zenmaster might coach again. It's possible.

23 Feb 2017 03:04:18
Celtics-Lakers-Pacers

Celtics get P.George + N.Young
-get their star player & an off the bench scoring punch
then send J.Jerebko + a future protected 1st to Mavericks for A.Bogut + 2nd round pick

Thomas-Smart-Rozier
Bradley-Young
George-Green-Young
Horford-Olynyk-Mickey
Bogut-Zeller

Lakers get J.Brown + M.Ellis
-get Brown's potential to go along with Russell & Ingram while also having Ellis as Williams replacement

Russell-Calderon-Huertas
Brown-Ellis
Ingram-Deng-Brewer
Randle-Nance
Mozgov-Zubac-Black

Pacers get J.Clarkson + J.Crowder + Nets 1st 2017 + A.Johnson + 2018 Celtics own 1st round pick + 2017 Lakers 1st round pick via Rockets
-get a loaded return for PG

2017 draft Fultz & Ivan Rabb

Fultz-Young-Brooks
Clarkson-Stuckey-Robinson
Crowder-Miles
Young-Rabb-Allen
Turner-Jefferson-Seraphin

23 Feb 2017 03:14:55
How did the Rockets get the Lakers 2017 first?

22 Feb 2017 18:11:51
Knicks Deadline Trades


Trade #1

Bulls get Ricky Rubio, Nikola Pekovic, Courtney Lee, and both Knicks 2017 2nd Round Draft Picks

Timberwolves get Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, and Lance Thomas

Knicks get Dwayne Wade and Rajon Rondo


Trade #2

76ers get Brandon Jennings and Knicks 2018 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Jahlil Okafor


Roster

Starting Lineup

PG Rondo
SG Wade
SF Melo
PF Porzingis
C Okafor

Bench

C Hernangomez
C/PF O'Quinn
SF/PF Kuzminskas
SG/SF Holiday
SG/PG Baker
SG/PG Vujacic
PF/C N'Dour
C Plumlee

22 Feb 2017 19:12:29
Noah is basically untradable with his contract.

22 Feb 2017 19:24:48
I agree carl006 but I figured the only chance might be the Timberwolves since Thibs runs basketball operations there and loves both him and Rose. Adding them to Wiggins and Towns could make them a playoff team.

22 Feb 2017 19:32:51
No, it won't. If Thibs really wanted Noah, he could have signed him in the off season. But Thibs wasn't dumb enough to give him 4 years and 72 million.

22 Feb 2017 19:33:03
Noah is untradeable, and i'd far prefer Hernangomez and Oquinn at the 5 over okafor.

22 Feb 2017 19:54:41
Hernangomez and O'Quinn > Okafor is crazy talk.

22 Feb 2017 20:12:11
I get your points about Noah. Sadie from that with all the moving parts do you guys think the value is fair?

22 Feb 2017 22:22:48
Lost in all this is eww, no thanks on Wade and Rondo in the first deal.

22 Feb 2017 17:21:55
Boston: Okafor+ 1rnd pick sac 2019

Philly: Olynyk+ 1rnd pick Nets 2017

Boston buys time in this scenario.
They can try to get KD and/or G Hayward and/or B Griffin. If they fail to land a superstar, they still have two potential 1 overall picks to trade for guys like PG13 or J Butler, who can become unhappy and who wanted to be traded.
Okafor's stock is low for the moment, but he should be a starter and he still has potential.

C: horford
PF: B griffin
SF:Crowder/ J Brown
SG: G Hayward/Bradley
PG: IT/ Smart
This team could challenge the Cavs and Golden state

Philly can fasten the rebuilt after years tanking. They can land the 1st, 2nd and 4th pick (Nets,sac(or philly) and Lakers pick.
So in an ideal scenario they can draft Fullz, J Jackson and Monk

C: Embiid/ Noel
PF: B simmons/ Saric
Sf: J Jackson/ covington
Sg: Monk
Pg: Fullz
This could be a scary team in a few years.

22 Feb 2017 17:50:10
I like this.

22 Feb 2017 18:01:16
Okafor's value now is mid to late first-rounder.
No way Celtics give up the Nets pick for so little.

22 Feb 2017 18:08:17
Lmao i don't see boston giving the nets pick up for anyone on the sixers much less okafor. We have already been through this every team knows okafor is nothing more then an average scorer, and we all know philly wants to get read of him because his value keeps dropping. If you guys really thought he could be special you wouldn't be trading him.

22 Feb 2017 19:34:59
This is horrible for the Celtics. Nets pick worth way more than Okafor, and even though the Kings are a mess there are no guarantees on a pick so far away.

22 Feb 2017 19:34:59
Oh. I like this. I wonder why.

This is flat out stupid.

22 Feb 2017 19:59:07
You're right burger, of course a sixers fan would like this.

Is there any chance boston doesn't take fultz or ball with pick 1, if they are lucky enough to get it? They passed on the guard last year.

22 Feb 2017 22:24:26
Apparently Ainge is trying to avoid trading that Nets pick in a deal for Butler, which guarantees he would not give it up for Okafor.

23 Feb 2017 04:55:25
I can see them taking Ball, Last year he took Brown when he was projected 9th. So you never know with DA.

22 Feb 2017 17:03:03
Clippers

If they feel like blowing it up (although very unlikely) I feel this is fair compensation.


LAC- Avery Bradley, Amir Johnson, & 2017 Swap rights (BRK)
BOS- Blake Griffin


LAC- Andrew Bogut, Imen Shumpert, & 2017 1st (unprotected DAL)
DAL- DeAndre Jordan
CLE- Derron Williams


LAC- Derrick Rose, 2017 1st (top 5 protected)
NYK- Chris Paul


DRAFT
1 (BRK)- PG Lonzo Ball
6 (DAL)- SF Jayson Tatum
7 (NYK)- C Jarrett Allen

22 Feb 2017 17:28:27
I like this scenario for the Clippers.
They should blow it up.
CP3 is still the best pointguard in the game. But it's insane giving him a max contract.

I only don't think D Jordan is welcome in Dallas :-) :-) :-)

22 Feb 2017 19:55:21
I'm not sure about DeAndre being brought in by Dallas, and I definitely would take the protection off of any pick coming with Rose for Paul. That's a HUGE upgrade for the Knicks. I would actually be asking for more, even considering Paul's age. At least one of the young kids like Hernangomez, and more in the way of picks.

22 Feb 2017 17:00:53
76ers trade - Okafor

Knicks trade - Rose and 17 top 7 protected 1st

Rose
Henderson
Covington
Saric
Embiid

Jennings
Lee
Melo
Porzingis
Okafor

22 Feb 2017 18:08:34
Knicks would never do this.

22 Feb 2017 22:25:56
No thanks on Okafor.

22 Feb 2017 15:08:28
Celtics trade Crowder, Rozier, A.Johnson, Jerebko, own 1st round pick 2018, 2nd round pick 2017 Clippers, 2nd round pick 2017 Cavs
Celtics get Griffin, Pierce, Holiday, Mbah

Knicks trade Anthony, Holiday
Knicks get Rozier, A.Rivers, Jerebko, W.Johnson, 1st round pick 2018 Celtics, 2nd round pick Clippers via Celtics, 2nd round pick Cavs via Celtics

Clippers trade Grffin, Pierce, A.Rivers, W.Johnson, Mbah
Clippers get Anthony, Crowder, A.Johnson

Celtics:
IT/Smart/Holiday
Bradley/Holiday/Young
J.Brown/Mbah/Pierce/Green
Griffin/Olynyk/Mickey
Horford/Zeller/Olynyk
- add another superstar in Griffin without giving up one of Nets' 1st round picks
- give J.Brown the starting job at SF with 3 vet behind (Pierce, Mbah, Green)
- trade the top pick for another superstar or draft future franchise player in loaded draft

Knicks:
- add young talent and future picks in order to rebuild around Porzingis

Clippers:
CP3/Felton/Crawford
Redick/Crawford/Anderson
Crowder/Anthony
Anthony/A.Johnson/Bass
Jordan/Speights
- if healthy Clippers is able to beat any team
- in Off-Season 2017/18 Clippers can sign LeBron James (let A.Johnson walk and CP3 opts out of contract)

22 Feb 2017 15:36:48
I feel at least one Brooklyn pick should go to LA if the C's are only giving up crowder for griffin.

22 Feb 2017 13:53:22
NYK-MIN-CHI

NYK- Dwayne Wade, & Ricky Rubio

MIN- Jimmy Butler, & Derrick Rose

CHI- Zach LeVine, Courtney Lee, Nikola Pekovic, NYK 2018 1st (top 7 protected), 2017 MIN 1st (top 5 protected).


The salaries match (Trade Machine) and i think there is a fit for these moves.


NYK gets Wade and Rubio to pair with Melo, and Prozingis to make one last run next year.

MIN gets Butler and Rose, two former Tibs players who know the system.

CHI gets LeVine and Lee to pair in the backcourt and two 1st round picks.

22 Feb 2017 14:55:52
Minnesota can't trade their 2017 1st until draft day.

And LaVine is not a PG.

22 Feb 2017 13:31:53
Lakers get Noah Rubio
Magic get Mosgov
Knicks get Clarkson Aldrich Pekovic
Wolves get Biyombo Rose Ndour

Deng Noah Ball-2nd for
Monroe Middleton TBryant-17

17-18 playoff
Russell/Rubio/Huertis
Middleton/Young/Hart-32nd
Ingram/Brewer/Artest
Black/Randle/NanceJr
Monroe/Zuboc/T.Bryant-17th

17-18 playoff
Smith-5th/Dunn/Jones
Lavine/Muhammed/Stephenson
Wiggens/Rush/Blossomgame-36
Biyombo/Bjelica/Payne
KAT/Hill/Dieng

17-18 playoff
Augustin/Payton/Watson
Fournier/Hezonja/Wilcox
Ross/Tatum-7th/J.Jackson-35
Ibaka/Gordon/Lydon-28 buy a 1st
Vucevic/Mosgov/Zimmerman

17-18 playoff
Clarkson/Ntilikina-8th/Galloway
Lee/Holiday/Bird-57th
Melo/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/O'Quinn/Hicks-47th
Hernangomez/Plumlee/Aldric

22 Feb 2017 11:24:43
Knicks/ Wolves

To MIN: Rose, 2019 1st (Lottery Protected)

To NYK: Rubio

It sounds as though Thibs would like to add Rose to be the stop gap to Dunn becoming the starting PG next year, and would also like to move Rubio's salary. This accomplishes both, and gives him another asset, which is reasonable for the Wolves to expect.

I think Rubio is the right PG for the Knicks. His ability to get touches for both Zinger and Melo would continue the development of one, and keep the other happy.

22 Feb 2017 13:35:44
No pick necessary.

22 Feb 2017 13:37:19
They add Aldrich and Ndour additional cap relief prevents pick from being add.

22 Feb 2017 05:23:35
knicks: Danillo Gallinari

nuggets: rose and 1st rnd pick(thundrr) and knicks 2nd rnd pick

thunder: wilson chandler and kyle o quinn


knicks: jordan clarkson and nick young

lakers: justin holiday, kuzminskas, and 17 1st rnd pick



Jennings/Clarkson
Lee/Young
Melo/Thomas
Gallinari/Hernangomez
Porzingis/Noah

22 Feb 2017 13:38:27
Clarkson would start.

22 Feb 2017 05:17:50
Pacers-Wolves-Knicks

Pacers trade CJ Miles , Jeff Teague , Thad Young & 1st round pick
Pacers get Carmelo Anthony & Ricky Rubio

Rubio-Stuckey-Young
Robinson-Ellis
George-Niang
Anthony-Allen
Turner-Jefferson-Seraphin

Wolves trade Ricky Rubio , Nikola Pekovic , Shabbaz Muhammad
Wolves get Derrick Rose , CJ Miles

Rose-Dunn-Jones
Wiggins-LaVine
Miles-Rush
Towns-Bjelica-Payne
Dieng-Aldrich-Hill

Knicks trade Carmelo Anthony , Derrick Rose
Knicks get Thad Young , Jeff Teague , Shabbaz Muhammad , 1st round pick Pacers & Nikola Pekovic

Teague-Jennings
Lee-Holiday-Vujacic
Muhammad-Thomas
Young-Oquinn-Kuzminkas
Porzingis-Willie-Noah

22 Feb 2017 13:39:25
Ny is too small.

22 Feb 2017 01:12:18
Pelicans/Knicks

Pelicans get: Brandon Jennings & Justin Holiday

Knicks get: Terrence Jones, Quincy Pondexter, 2018 2nd

This trade gives the Pelicans some backcourt help that they need after the Cousins trade.

 
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