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09 Feb 2016 06:43:39
Before the deadline:
1. Thunder trade McGary, novak (hometown hero) to knicks for kyle O'Quinn

2. Okc send kyle singler and 2 second rounders to Memphis for Matt Barnes

Thoughts?

09 Feb 2016 02:31:22
Bulls trade Noah, McDermott, Dunleavy, Kings 2016 first round pick, own 2016 first round pick
Bulls get Anthony, Thomas, Galloway

Knicks trade Anthony, Thomas, Galloway
Knicks get Noah, McDermott, Novak, Huestis, Kings 2016 first round pick (from Bulls), Bulls 2016 first round pick, Grizzlies 2017 second round pick (from Thunder)

Thunder trade Novak, Huestis, Grizzlies 2017 second round pick
Thunder get Dunleavy

Assuming the Knicks want to trade Melo and he agrees to move his no trade clause the Bulls would be the best spot for him to go. He would solve the Bulls issue at SF long term and would take a lot of the scoring pressure off of Butler. A core of Gasol, Gibson, Melo, Butler, Rose would give the Bulls a serious chance at reaching the NBA finals.

If the Knicks want to hit the reset button and add young talent and cap space and build long term moving Melo for two long prospects (Huestis, McDermott) expiring contracts and three future picks would be best for long term future.

Thunder swap out a few players not getting any PT and a second round pick to add Dunleavy who will provide a knock down shooter to provide more space for KD and Westbrook to create and score.

08 Feb 2016 23:26:49
Thunder-Knicks

Thunder get Lopez, Afflalo, O'Quinn, and Vujacic

Knicks get Kanter, Waiters, Novak, and Huestis.

08 Feb 2016 21:06:08
Knicks/ Bulls

Rose, Noah, McBuckets, Portis, Kings and Bulls pick 2016

-Rose gets a new start and Knicks start rebuilding around KP

Melo, Calderon, Williams
Win now with Butler and Melo.

08 Feb 2016 21:48:38
Rose has been balling lately. like last month lately. doesn't need a new start.

08 Feb 2016 21:54:20
The bulls are trading way to much away in my opinion. In my mid Rose and Melo have very similar if not the same value as they are both not their superstar selves of late due to injuries. then you are throwing in 2 first round picks and their last two first round picks in McDermott and Portis.

Either the Bulls need more coming back or they need to take out picks and/ or players

my trade:
Bulls get- Melo and Calderon
Knicks get- Rose, Noah and Kings pick.

08 Feb 2016 23:11:47
Hahah ok larrylegend. Keep it with that Amir Johnson is as good or better than faried. Rose, what, 3 major knee surgeries, averaging 15 and for a pg.4.8 assists and 2.7 tos. Dude is a season ending injury waiting to happen. Melo, minus last year averages like 70 games a season. Like this year. Keep it reasonable. If you really value rose at the same level as Melo, you either need your head check or stop making foolish emotional comments. No one could make an argument they are equal value. No one.

09 Feb 2016 04:13:47
Ok i agree that i may have devalued Melo a little. Melo is on the wrong side of 30 and has definitely regressed in the past few years. So i just don't really see how much of an upgrade to either team this trade would be.

As for the Faried and Johnson comparison, i have watched a lot of Johnson this year and he does a lot of what Faried does. i don't believe i said that he was better than Faried.

And I'm sure you could find a handle full of people that think they are of equal value. But yeah maybe I did make an emotional comment cause I think that Melo is an overrated player, but see that's the thing about this site, everyone has different opinions and views on players values. So sue me.

08 Feb 2016 20:13:21
PHX - NYK - MEM

PHX get: Zach Randolph, Kyle O'Quinn, and Jerian Grant

pg. Grant (Bledsoe)
sg. Booker
sf. Tucker
pf. Randolph
c. Chandler

NYK get: Brandon Knight, Brandon Wright, and Jeff Green (exp)

pg. Knight
sg. Galloway
sf. Anthony
pf. Porzingis
c. Wright

MEM get: Robin Lopez, Aaron Afflalo, and Markieff Morris

pg. Conley
sg. Allen
sf. Afflalo
pf. Morris
c. Gasol.

08 Feb 2016 19:08:08
Apparently the Knicks are not in tank mode. They just fired Derek Fisher.

What's next for the Knicks?

08 Feb 2016 19:17:42
Need to get better at PG position. That's it.

08 Feb 2016 21:18:38
Trade melo for as many assets as possible. Send him to the Bulls for some of the young assets.

08 Feb 2016 17:23:45
No big change Knicks

hire Luke Walton now

NYK/ HOU deal

NYK get Ty Lawson

HOU get Jose Calderon, Kyle Oquinn and 2nd rounder

Lawson could be their short term answer at PG position. That could be a steal for them here.

08 Feb 2016 18:13:15
Wouldn't be against that either. Just a little hesitant because of the decline this year. But if it gets those two off the books it's a win no matter what.

08 Feb 2016 16:46:16
With the firing of Fisher (about time! ) it seems likely the Knicks are in the mood to make some big moves. I would hope Jackson takes advantage of whatever leverage he currently has. This season should be used to build towards the next few.

I would reach out to Rivers right now, and find out what type of package he wants for Griffin. We've all seen the rumors, and I can see Melo being open to the move (LA is perfect for him) .

Griffin + Stephenson for Melo + Thomas + Quinn.

Adds some depth at 3/ 4 and also gives them a legit offensive force that should be able to play great along side Jordan and Paul. Also, Melo clearly loves Paul so it would work.

This would sure up the front court for the knicks. Young, athletic and great to build around.

Offseason:

Hire Luke Walton.
Trade Lopez - more so to get him off the books. Especially with the boost in the cap, he is a legit starting center, and there will likely be teams willing to take him on.

If they can move Lopez, afflalo and williams opt out, AND they loosen up on the triangle, they could target conley and batum.

Ideal lineup:

Conley
Turner
Batum
Griffin
Porzingis

Obviously this would involve a lot of moving pieces, but if the knicks are able to trade melo and lopez AND relinquish afflalo and williams, they will have about 50million to work with, and it would be doable.

Hey, a guy can dream :)

08 Feb 2016 17:01:10
better hope Porzingis gains 50 lbs in the offseason too.

08 Feb 2016 18:12:07
Why would we hope porzingis is 290? How about he gains 10-15 and stays a healthy weight?

08 Feb 2016 18:41:43
Porzingis can not guard any decent Center in the league unless he puts on 20lbs minimum. He's a 4 until that happens.

Also shocked you'd be willing to part with Melo since he is one of the best players in the league and has so many good years left. He's going to age like Dirk you said, remember?

08 Feb 2016 19:54:10
@knicksalltheway Porzingis is what 7'3? (Sorry if i'm off)

290 lbs and 7'3 to play center. yes. Imagine him being 7'3 only 250 (if he is that now) trying to guard Zaza Pachulia, Greg Monroe, Andre Drummond, Demarcus Cousins, etc.

*I'm still a Porzingis fan, just telling you reality needs to be taken into consideration if you want him to be a 5*.

08 Feb 2016 20:04:46
23.you really are sore about something, not sure what, but something. The point of melo is while he may still be good for a couple more years, he isn't in his early 20s. Again, i know these are complicated concepts, especially when they invovle your physiology analysis of the joints. But yes, if i want to build a franchise, i tend to go for the younger player. Sawwwy that I didn't accept your claim that once a player is past 30, their career is over. He is a jumpshooter, not an NFL running back. Simmer down.

CWJ, if he ends up around 250/ 260, that is what his ideal weight would be to play center. he's an agile player. A stretch 5. The weight of like 290 is desireable for players that are just trying to bang down low. that's a relatively dated principal, especially with very tall players. The added weight would reduce his career length. The knicks wanted him around 250 all along, and I think based off his style, that's probably best.

He will be fine guarding those guys. I mean, Monroe is 265. Why would he need to be 290 to guard 265? Also, if you think about it, Anthony davis is 7' and 250. No one is telling him to gain another 30-40lbs.

08 Feb 2016 20:21:48
@knicksalltheway Because he is 7'3. He can hold that extra wait.

Anthony Davis isn't a center bud (primarily. )

Wanna bring up Draymond? It's because his lower center of gravity, long arms, etc. oh, not to mention he is like 6'8.

08 Feb 2016 20:37:34
I'd say that LAC might have as much interest in this as NYK, cause they'd get player who is possibly a better fit (forget Lob City, talking about serious basketball) for them and is within CP3 window; plus they can upgrade bench a bit, even long term, but in that case I'd propose slight adjustment, I think Knicks wouldn't mind

Griffin, Pirgioni
Melo, Thomas, Galloway.

08 Feb 2016 20:59:02
Ideally, Porzingis would flourish along someone like Noah in his prime. Unfortunately, closest thing is Noel if he shows any sign of playmaking ability. Forgot somebody maybe?

08 Feb 2016 21:43:08
Not sore about anything at all. You just need to realize that if you are going to dish it out, you got to be able to take some back though. Don't be so sensitive when I give you crap about the most overrated player in the league.

When it comes to Porzingis, I'm kind of in the middle of you guys. I think he needs to put on a solid 20. Center of gravity does have a lot to do with it but not sure he needs to be 290 with his length.

08 Feb 2016 23:16:31
What are you talking about. I said put on like 15 pounds. As for Melo being the most overrated, stop getting your physiology reports from clickbait ads. We get it. You read a headline and then claimed it fact. Generate your own opinion. Starting to sound like shrink with his nonsensical economics reports. You claim everyone is done. DONE at 30. That's why you claim Melo is done. Your point. Was. Stupid. Move on.

08 Feb 2016 23:22:54
Remember that time you wrote that this is your opinion now because you read the headline on ESPN insider? An then realeast ripped you for being so fickle? That was fun.

07 Feb 2016 18:57:48
A propos Kanter,

NYK-OKC

Kanter, Husetis
Lopez, Afflalo

Porzingis-Kanter might be interesting pairing, they move Lopez contract; OKC bolster bench D and get 2way wing. Does NYK do it?

07 Feb 2016 19:51:04
This is interesting and because could Lopez and Adams play alongside each other also?

07 Feb 2016 19:59:05
Def not; but they have strong D centers in both units, with 2nd unit they can put Singler and Robinson at forward pos, and Payne and Waiters backcourt.

07 Feb 2016 20:45:24
It'd be nice to see O'Quinn or James Johnson to the Thunder as well as someone suggested.

07 Feb 2016 21:00:00
Knicks would def do it. Especially if they can include o'quinn.

07 Feb 2016 21:39:37
Add O'Quinn to Thunder, then add Waiters and Novak to Knicks.

08 Feb 2016 11:41:17
They do not need O'Quinn if they have Lopez.

06 Feb 2016 18:29:20
Thunder offseason moves

-Trade McGary and Huestis to Knicks for O'Quinn
-Trade Kanter to Blazers for Ed Davis (Picks and other pieces probably involved) (Saves OKC money)

Draft:
44-Jake Layman

Free agency:
-Re-sign KD to whatever he wants
-Sign Joe Johnson 2yr 11m
-Sign Beno Udrih 2yr 5m
-Sign Kendrick Perkins back 1yr minimum

Lineup:
Westbrook/ Payne/ Udrih
Johnson/ Roberson/ Morrow
Durant/ Singler/ Layman
Ibaka/ O'Quinn/ Collison
Adams/ Davis/ Perkins.

06 Feb 2016 19:24:39
Honestly, I don't think I'd give up Davis for Kanter (especially if picks are involved) . Kanter is a poor fit in Portland. Kanter, Monroe, al Jefferson, and cousins are weird fits in today's NBA. They're low post driven centers that can't defend. This requires a PF that can protect the rim and stretch the floor. How many of those guys are there in the NBA? One (Ibaka)?

Kanter and Meyers Leonard would be the worst defensive big duo on the NBA. Kanter and plumlee would be too slow and collapse the opposing team's defense. It would kill any ability for the guards to drive the lane.

06 Feb 2016 20:07:22
Myles Turner could play the 4 and he has a shot. But I disagree about cousins defense he's not elite but atleast respectable.

06 Feb 2016 20:26:48
Remember though, the Blazers were the ones who signed Kanter to that offer sheet last offseason.

06 Feb 2016 21:07:08
Agreed with Nate, no idea why people are saying Cousins can't defend? There is zero reasoning behind that. For his CAREER, his teams have defended better when he is on the court versus off. Look it up. If you claim stats aren't everything, so be it. But to claim he can't defend is just ridiculous. He isn't the strongest rim protector, but still has averaged over 1 block per game for his career. But the place he stands out is 1.4 steals for his career. Which is great for a big man. At best, I'd say he's an average defender, but big body, quick feet, quick hands. yeah. he can defend just fine.

06 Feb 2016 21:14:06
Honestly, I think they offered Kanter the offer sheet to screw with okc, and because there was absolutely nothing else left.

Cousins COULD play good defense, but he's lazy and disinterested. He has flashes of decent defense, but he can't be trusted to protect the rim. Kanter is about the same, though I think he's more terrible at defense than lazy. (Not trying to make this another conversation about how little I care for cousins) .

06 Feb 2016 21:18:15
Cousins is actually very good on D past two, three seasons, individual numbers, and team effect, it is outdated objection that he can't defend.
But anyways, don't see why would POR do this, but also don't think OKC is actually moving Kanter.

06 Feb 2016 21:50:26
Kanter has bad footwork and instincts, if he improves has a chance to be slight below average. As good on off, that bad on D; not comparable to Boogie.

06 Feb 2016 21:52:07
Ok go take yalls talk about cousins somewhere else. He wasn't even involved in this post.

07 Feb 2016 00:28:03
No nba. Go take yalls ordering somewhere else. It's a comment board. Didn't realize we had to confirm to your guidelines of acceptable posts.

06 Feb 2016 14:38:46
Miami Heat: Jeff Teague, Arron Afflalo, Carmelo Anthony, Lou Amudson

New York Knicks: Goran Dragic, Luol Deng, Justise Winslow, Josh McRoberts, Chris Andersen

Atlanta Hawks: Jose Calderon, Cleathony Early, 2st pick (Memphis Grizzlies)

06 Feb 2016 14:54:08
why in the world would the Hawks do that stupid thing?

06 Feb 2016 15:40:12
Yeah, can't see the Knicks or he Hawks having any interest in this whatsoever. Personally, rather have Teague than dragic. Especially with the contracts.

06 Feb 2016 17:21:12
I no one believes the trade machine. but this is absolutely hysterical. Entered it all in. and wait for it

Hawks: -1.ok, not awful but oh well
Knicks: -8, ok, starting to be funny but I mean, winslow has potential, and dragic makes 15mill and has a PER of 13, versus teague that makes 8 mill and a PER of 17. But wait for it.
Heat: +10.seriously. Don't agree with say +2 or -3, so be it, but PLUS 10 and MINUS 8?!?!? Come on, at least try.

06 Feb 2016 04:41:57
Bulls trade Noah, two future second round picks

Knicks trade Afflalo, Seraphin

Noah is done for the year and is a FA and not likely to be resigned so swapping him out for Afflalo (who gives them a legit starting wing option, sorry E'Twaun Moore, who can defense and shoot the 3) helps the Bulls make a playoff push. The Knicks aren't going to the playoffs and with Afflalo becoming a FA this summer two second round picks is better than losing him for nothing.

05 Feb 2016 23:35:47
Megadeal

BOS/ LAC/ SAC

BOS acquire : Demarcus Cousins and Lance Stephenson
** get their center for years

LAC acquire : Rudy Gay, Jared Sullinger, BKN 1st 2016 and Marcus Smart
** solve the SF spot, a very nice pick, stretch 4 that could fit nicely with DeAndre and a young combo guard who plays very good defense

SAC acquire : Blake Griffin, Jae Crowder, David Lee (exp) and BKN 1st 2018
** How about a Rondo-Griffin tandem that would be very good

rosters

BOS

Pg Thomas/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Stephenson
Sf Turner/ Young/ Jerebko
Pf Olynyk/ Johnson
Ce Cousins/ Zeller

LAC

Pg Paul/ Smart/ Prigioni
Sg Redick/ Crawford/ Rivers
Sf Gay/ Johnson/ Pierce
Pf Sullinger/ Mbah Moute
Ce Jordan/ Aldrich

SAC

Pg Rondo/ Collison
Sg McLemore/ Bellineli/ Anderson
Sf Crowder/ Casspi/ Butler
Pf Griffin/ Lee/ Acy
Ce WCS/ Koufos.

06 Feb 2016 02:21:13
Celts seem to be giving up a lot, and Kings make out like bandits, but as someone who is not a fan of any of those teams I kind of like it. Don't think it's plausible based on sheer size and money involved, but like it all the same.

06 Feb 2016 03:44:00
Celtics may be giving up just slightly too much since they have to take on Lance, I'd say just change the 2018 Brooklyn 1st to a Celtics top 3 protected 2018 1st. But other than that I think it's pretty interesting and decent.

06 Feb 2016 03:49:39
That won't happen but I honestly like it for all 3 teams.

06 Feb 2016 05:01:47
Good trade bud.

06 Feb 2016 09:06:24
Clippers say no. not enough for Blake. smart would be pointless for them. sullinger is about to be a free agent. they could probably get gay without giving up blake.

06 Feb 2016 09:37:05
Agree gpack, everybody dealing so boston could have star, LAC left shorthanded here.

05 Feb 2016 23:18:44
simple deals for MIL shakeup

BOS/ MIL

BOS acquire : Greg Monroe and Jerryd Bayless

MIL acquire : Marcus Smart and David Lee

then

MIL/ PHI

MIL acquire : Robert Covington and OKC pick

PHI acquire : MCW (try to revive him)

MIL new roster

Pg Smart/ Vasquez
Sg Middleton/ Mayo/ Vaughn
Sf Giannis/ Covington
Pf Parker/ Lee
Ce Henson/ Obryant/ Plumlee

BOS

Pg Thomas/ Rozier/ Bayless
Sg Bradley/ Turner/ Hunter
Sf Crowder/ Young/ Jerebko
Pf Sullinger/ Olynyk
Ce Monroe/ Johnson/ Zeller

PHI

Pg MCW/ Smith/ Marshall
Sg Stauskas/ Tokoto
Sf Grant/ Thompson
Pf Noel/ Landry/ Holmes
Ce Okafor/ Embiid.

06 Feb 2016 03:16:57
Boston would have to throw in a pick at least.

06 Feb 2016 03:19:42
Cetics pass.

05 Feb 2016 22:37:42
Raps suns pelicans


Raps trade Patterson Johnson, Bebe, Wright and 3 first round picks

Raps get Anderson and Pj tucker



Suns trade Pj tucker, and Morris

Sun's get Patterson, Bebe a first round pick (raps) Evans


Pelicans trade Evans and Anderson

Get two first round pick NYK from raptors, and clippers, Johnson, Wright and Morris.

05 Feb 2016 18:14:36
Celtics and Kings Trade

Celtics get Cousins and Gay

Kings get Lee (exp), Crowder, Zeller (exp), Sullinger (exp), Rozier, 2016 Nets 1st and Wolves 1st (2-2nd rd picks) and Celtics 2017 1st rd pick.

Celtics lineup

Thomas/ Smart
Bradley/ Turner/ Hunter
Gay/ Young
Johnson/ Jerebko/ Mickey
Cousins/ Olynyk.

05 Feb 2016 18:17:01
This wouldn't cut it for boogie, let alone adding gay.

05 Feb 2016 18:24:03
If Celtics want Boogie, they need Bradley, Sullinger, Olynyk, and all 3 BKN picks ('16, '17 right to swap picks, '18).

Others will need to be added to make salaries work, but that would have to be the starting point.

05 Feb 2016 19:04:37
@NLD, Crowder, Olynyk and picks would be my choice, but yes, I agree.

05 Feb 2016 14:59:25
Knicks-Bucks-Timberwolves-Clippers

To Knicks: Jamal Crawford (LAC), Michael Carter-Williams (MIL), Miles Plumlee (MIL)

To Milwaukee Bucks: Kyle O'Quinn (NYK), Jerian Grant (NYK)

To Minnesota Timberwolves: C. J. Wilcox (LAC), Branden Dawson (LAC), 2nd round draft pick (2019 from LAC)

To L. A. Clippers: Kevin Martin (MIN), Tayshaun Prince (MIN), Lou Amundson (NYK)

05 Feb 2016 17:01:46
I saw this trade in some news.

05 Feb 2016 13:14:13
DAL/ HOU/ NYK
blockbuster

DAL get Dwight Howard and Trevor Ariza

HOU get Carmelo Anthony, Jose Calderon and Robin Lopez

NYK get Ty Lawson, Sam Dekker, Chandler Parsons, DAL future 1st, DAL 2nd round pick and Zaza Pachulia

DAL get their star defensive center and will fit perfectly. They also get a hustling SF to complete their starting 5

Pg Williams/ Barea/ Felton
Sg Matthews/ Harris
Sf Ariza/ Anderson
Pf Nowitzki/ Evans/ Villanueva
Ce Howard/ Mejri

HOU get a star SF to tandem with James Harden. A matured version of Melo could fit next to Harden and hopefully build a partnership that can seriously contend. Also having a defensive center around them would be nice.

Pg Beverley/ Calderon
Sg Harden/ McDaniels/ Terry
Sf Anthony/ Brewer
Pf Jones/ Harrell
Ce Lopez/ Capela/ Moteijunas

NYK get a bunch of return for their star. It's hard to move Carmelo as he is playing very good basketball now but moving the team to a Porzingis team is not a bad idea. They would have plenty of cap next season if the 3 players they get doesn't resign

Pg Lawson/ Grant
Sg Afflalo/ Galloway/ Vujacic
Sf Parsons/ Thomas/ Dekker
Pf Porzingis/ Williams/ Oquinn
Ce Pachulia/ Seraphin.

05 Feb 2016 13:39:29
Very bad for knicks.

05 Feb 2016 14:58:14
Don't want either Lawson or Dekker, so basically the Knicks are losing Melo and Lopez for Parsons and a future 1st. No thanks.

05 Feb 2016 13:00:21
NYK/ MIL

NYK get Greivis Vasquez

MIL get Kyle Oquinn.

05 Feb 2016 14:58:56
Simple and clean, nicely done.

05 Feb 2016 05:06:15
Knicks get Griffin Teague Stephenson
Clippers get Melo Splitter
Hawks get Lopez Grant


Calderon-exp for Landry Marshall


2016-17
Teague/ Galloway/ Marshall
Stephenson/ Wroten/ Freddette
Durant/ Thomas/ Thanasis
Porzingis/ Landry/ Boozer
Griffin/ O'Quinn/ Hernangomez.

05 Feb 2016 10:55:02
Stop smoking that crack . Atlanta sends u to rehab. then hands up.

 
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