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18 Aug 2017 17:02:38
NYK - CLE - HOU - MIL Trade

New York Trades Carmelo Anthony and Kyle O'Quinn
New York Receives Greg Monroe, Spencer Hawes, Isaiah Taylor, Tim Quarterman, Chinanu Onauku, and Shawn Long

Cleveland Trades Kevin Love and Iman Shumpert
Cleveland Receives Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, Jabari Parker, and Kyle O'Quinn

Houston trades Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, Ryan Anderson, Tim Quarterman, Shawn Long, Isaiah Taylor, and Chinanu Onauku
Houston Receives Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love

Milwaukee trades Jabari Parker, Greg Monroe, and Spencer Hawes
Milwaukee receives Ryan Anderson and Iman Shumpert

Why each team makes the trade?
New York rids themselves of their Melo drama in exchange for non guaranteed deals and expiring contracts.

Cleveland takes a chance on Jabari. His numbers were fantastic this past year but there are obvious concerns about his knees. They solidify their bench by adding last year's 6th man of the year (Gordon) . Ariza is a great 3 and D complement who can start until Jabari returns. Kyle O'Quinn can fill the role of backup center because the Cavs are extremely weak here as Tavares is the only center on the roster besides Thiompson. I think this is the best move the cavs could make. Deepen their roster and give Lebron more weapons.

Milwaukee takes a risk on Anderson in this trade. He does not fit into Kidd's defensive scheme but his 3pt shooting is desperately needed. The Bucks finished in the bottom 10 in 3pt fgs made last year. Ridding themselves of Monroe's contract and receiving a good 3 and D wing in Shumpert sweetens the deal for the bucks. I think they take this.

Houston gets 2 all stars in this trade and become the second team with a Big 4. This team has enough firepower to compete with the warriors. There would be concerns with the lack of backcourt depth but I believe D'Antoni would be able to stagger Paul and Harden's minutes so one of them is always on the floor.

I'd love to hear everyone's opinions.

18 Aug 2017 17:50:11
The Knicks would be better off buying out Melo. They would save a significant amount of money and they don't really recieve anything they would value in the trade

It's not terrible for the Cavs, but with Irving with a foot out the door and Parker's knee injuries, the Cavs are probably better off keeping Love for now. If he has a big season as the 2nd option, his value could increase by a ton.

It's a no brainer for Houston. They win this deal by a mile.

The Bucks get robbed blind. Monroe is expiring and when healthy Parker is far better and younger than anything they get back. Houston is going to have to package a first with Anderson just to get someone to take on his huge contract. They can't expect to get anymore than expiring contracts in a deal for him.

19 Aug 2017 02:37:04
Knicks will not buy out Melo because he would still be on the books. Trading him would reduce salary cap. If they don't get anything they like in trade-they will keep him. Either he expands trade partner list or he gets old with no title chances.

19 Aug 2017 03:14:26
Mitchsam, Melo can opt out after this year. Buyouts are negotiated. The Knicks would save a few million this year, wouldn't have to worry about Melo getting hurt and opting in next year (there would be no cap hold for Melo next year) and not have a pouting Melo in their locker.
Unless they can get an asset or two and not take on any bad contracts in a trade, it's going to me a much better option than keeping Melo or wasting cap space on bad contracts.

18 Aug 2017 15:42:15
NYK-HOU-UTA trade

New York gets- Derrick Favors, Alec Burks, Shawn Long, Isiah Taylor, 1st rd pick (HOU)

Houston gets- Carmelo Anthony

Utah gets- Ryan Anderson

18 Aug 2017 17:03:08
Ryan Anderson has negative value. You'd probably have to give up a first to get rid of him.

18 Aug 2017 14:27:15
Trade

NYK - D. Favors & A. Burks

Hou - Melo

Utah - R. Anderson, T. Ariza, Hou 2018 & 2019 1st rd pick

18 Aug 2017 22:47:29
You can't trade two consecutive firsts.

18 Aug 2017 01:57:19
OKC/POR/BKN/NYK

OKC get Al-Farouq Aminu , Courtney Lee & Kyle Oquinn

Pg Westbrook/Felton/Christon
Sg Roberson/Lee/Ferguson
Sf George/Abrines
Pf Aminu/Patterson/Collison
Ce Adams/Oquinn

POR get Enes Kanter & Sean Kilpatrick

Pg Lillard/Napier
Sg McCollum/Kilpatrick/Connaughton
Sf Harkless/Turner
Pf Vonleh/Collins
Ce Nurkic/Kanter

BKN get Myers Leonard , Ed Davis , Kyle Singler & 1st from OKC

Pg Russell/Whitehead
Sg Crabbe/Levert
Sf Carroll/Singler
Pf RHJ/Leonard
Ce Mozgov/Davis

NYK get Jeremy Lin , Jerami Grant & 2nd round pick OKC

Pg Lin/Nkitilina/Sessions
Sg THJ/Baker
Sf Anthony/Thomas
Pf Porzingis/Grant/Kuz
Ce Hernangomez/Noah

18 Aug 2017 06:22:01
why would the knicks do this.

17 Aug 2017 23:16:45
Cavs get Gordon ariza capela oquinn
Knicks get Irving Jefferson
Rockets get Anthony shumpert

Cavs get Conley
Grizzlies get smith oquinn felder osman

Sign wade (when bought out) bogut
Resign Williams
Waive Tavares

Conley rose Calderon
Wade gordon korver
James ariza green
Love Frye Williams
Thompson capela bogut

18 Aug 2017 00:15:07
The value is off in both trades by a ton. The Cavs and Houston get shafted in the first and Memphis in the 3nd.

18 Aug 2017 00:41:08
Rockets not giving up Capela, and dude, come on with the second trade, Grizz never agree to that.

18 Aug 2017 03:22:53
This is just stupid.

17 Aug 2017 07:43:45
Trades these teams need to make before the 2018 Playoffs!

Lakers : Jordan Clarkson + Luol Deng for Dwyane Wade

Celtics: Jayson Tatum for

Rockets: Trevor Ariza + Tarik Black + Eric Gordon for Carmelo Anthony

Cleveland: Iman Shumpert for Kyle Anderson

OKC: Enes Kanter + Andre Roberson for Dwayne Wade + Cristiano Felicia

Minnesota: Gorgui Deng + Tyus Jones for Greg Monroe + Tyus Jones

NYK: Carmelo Anthony + Joakim Noah for Malik Monk + Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Suns: Eric Bledsoe + Brandon Knight for Dante Exum + 2018 First Round Pick

PHI: Jahlil Okafor + Robert Covington for T.J. Warren + Brandon Knight or
Kent Bazemore

Kings: Kosta Koufous for Wesley Johnson

Bucks : Greg Monroe + Mirza Teletovic for Kent Bazemore + Miles Plumlee

Pelicans: Frank Jackson + 2018 First Round Pick for Tobias Harris

Nuggets: Emmanuel Mudiay + Will Barton + Kenneth Faried for Nicolas Batum

Spurs: Patty Mills + Kyle Anderson + 2018 First Round Pick for Eric Bledsoe

Wizards: Markieff Morris + Kelly Oubre for Keneth Faried

Raptors: Kyle Lowry + C.J. Miles +Serge Ibaka + 2018 1st Round Pick for Kyrie Irving + Iman Shumpert

This last one hurts the most.

17 Aug 2017 07:50:41
almost all are way off.

17 Aug 2017 10:13:08
like which ones.

17 Aug 2017 11:48:35
Can't say for sure, but I tend to doubt that Celtics would be willing to give Tatum away for nothing.

17 Aug 2017 12:00:47
Why would Minnesota want Monroe? And why trade for Tyus Jones when they have Tyus Jones?

17 Aug 2017 16:43:41
Why would the raptors trade there best Pg who's and Allstar and everyone else for kyrie. I laugh at how bad this trade request is maybe a Lowry Powell straight up with a draft pick For kyrie and shumpert.

17 Aug 2017 18:39:54
Knicks give melo and noah for monk and MKG? Yes please.

These are beyond foolish.

17 Aug 2017 22:25:59
Noah's contract is horrible and Monk dropped 50 in NCAA. You are getting another top 10 lottery pick and dumping Noah. For the rebuild.

17 Aug 2017 05:59:26
NOP-NYK-HOU

to NOP- Anderson,Lee,NYK 2nd 2018
- they get players that can contribute better for their playoff run

Rondo-Jackson
Holiday-Clark
Lee-Pondexter-Miller
Davis-Anderson-Diallo
Cousins-Ajinca

to NYK- Asik(stretch),Hill,Moore,Ariza(exp)1st NOP 2018(lottery protected),1st HOU 2018
- they lose 2 key players and get role players back 3 of them with longer contracts but the 2 picks compensate it.

Moore-Nkitilina-Baker
Hardaway-Thomas
Ariza-Hill-Kuzminkas
Porzingis-Oquinn
Hernangomez-Noah-Asik

to HOU- Anthony,Crawford
- get what they want and add a back up guard on the process

Paul-Crawford-Taylor
Harden-Gordon
Anthony-Tucker
Mbah Moute-Black
Capela-Nene-Qi

17 Aug 2017 07:44:03
If the Knicks aren't getting rid of Noah, they aren't taking asik.

17 Aug 2017 12:33:16
Asik Hill Moore for Thomas Noah Lee.

17 Aug 2017 18:40:42
I also love that the knicks stretch asik and he is on their depth chart.

16 Aug 2017 18:58:57
CLE-NYK-BOS trade

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony, Jae Crowder, Marcus Morris, Marcus Smart, Frank Ntilikina, 1st rd pick (NYK)

New York gets- Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert

Boston gets- Tristan Thompson, Willy Hernangomez


What do you think?

16 Aug 2017 19:41:59
I think it's not realistic, but hey I love it.

16 Aug 2017 21:21:52
Why would Boston do that? Seems terrible for them.

16 Aug 2017 23:19:43
Don't see Boston putting Crowder into this deal. You're basically asking them to help the Knicks pay to get Irving.

16 Aug 2017 10:35:09
Detroit-Cleveland-Houston-Ny Knicks

Detroit get Irving,Noah,Anderson

Irving-Galloway
Bradley-Kennard
Harris-Johnson-Bullock
Anderson-Leuer
Noah-Marjanovic

Cleveland get Drummond,Lee,Smith,1st Detroit

Rose-Smith-Calderon
Lee-Smith
James-Korver-Jefferson
Love-Green-Frye
Drummond-Tavares

Houston get Melo,Ellenson

Paul-Brown
Harden-Gordon
Melo-Tucker
Mbah-Ellenson
Capela-Nene-Black-Qi

Ny get Thompson,Jackson,1st Rockets

Jackson-Nkitilina-Baker
THJ-Thomas
Kuzminkas-Dotson
Zinger-Oquinn
Thompson-Willie

16 Aug 2017 13:30:49
Why wouldn't the Cavs and Detroit just cut Houston and the Knicks out. Detroit wouldn't have to take on bad contracts and the Cavs would get Ellenson.

16 Aug 2017 15:02:00
Noah is washed up with a bad contract he will be lucky to hold down the backup center role.

16 Aug 2017 09:23:39
If Knicks swing
Noah Porzingis for Irving

Rockets get Melo
Knicks get Dieng Henson Ariza Teletovic
Bucks get Anderson Aldrich
Wolves get Lee Thomas

Irving/Ntilikina/Session
Hardaway/Baker/Randle
Ariza/Dotson/Kuzminkas
Dieng/Henson/Teletovic
Hernangomez/O'Quinn/Kornet

16 Aug 2017 13:32:07
Why would Minnesota just give away Dieng for almost nothing?

16 Aug 2017 19:01:25
Lee and thomas represent back up position of needs vs pf/ c

Lee is just better all around player than Dieng.

16 Aug 2017 04:53:18
Knicks-Jazz

Knicks get Favors & Neto

Nkitilina-Neto-Baker
THJ-Thomas
Carmelo-Kuzminkas
Porzingis-Willie
Favors-Noah

Jazz get C.Lee , Oquinn & 2nd

Rubio-Exum
Lee-Burks-Mitchell
Hood-Johnson
Ingles-Jerebko
Gobert-Oquinn

16 Aug 2017 07:02:03
Favors plays the four and Zinger the five, Willie is not a four.

15 Aug 2017 17:33:37
Cavs get Joakim Noah, Tobias Harris, Jon Leur, Kristaps Porzingis, and Stanley Johnson

Cavs give Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, and Iman Shumpert

Knicks get Kyrie Irving

Knicks give Joakim Noah and Kristaps Porzingis

Pistons get Kevin Love and Iman Shumpert

Pistons give Tobias Harris, Jon Leur, and Stanley Johnson

The Cavs have made Kristaps Porzingis their primary target in a Kyrie Irving trade. This trade allows the Cavs to pickup the 7'3 Latvian wonder-kid while moving their current Power Forward Kevin Love. Moving Love gives the Cavs a versatile and athletic forward Tobias Harris, a stretch four to replace Love in Leur, and a young forward in Stanley Johnson who can become LeBron's pupil. Picking up Noah's ugly contract hurts but at least he'd be a good backup center. This trade improves the Cavs depth and brightens their future.

The Knicks get their new face of the franchise in Kyrie Irving, a local grown talent who wants nothing more than to win in New York. Losing Porzingis hurts but I'd say it's worth it for the Knicks to bring in a 25 year old star point guard who happens to be the most clutch player in the league while ridding their selves of one of the worst contracts in the NBA (Noah's). Irving and Melo would instantly become a scary scoring duo and the two New Yorkers can work to recruit other stars in their attempt to revive the Knicks.

The Pistons add an All-Star to what is shaping up to be a very nice starting five. Jackson/Bradley/Shumpert/Love/Drummond contains a nice mixture of shooting, defense, and rebounding. Love gives the Pistons a clear leading scorer, and the frontcourt of Drummond and Love should dominate the boards. Shumpert and Bradley would make for a tough defensive wing, but SVG could also go with Kennard at the three to add even more shooting. The Pistons could possibly make a run in this weak eastern conference.

15 Aug 2017 21:21:22
Can I change the proposal a little bit?
Knicks get Kyrie Irving and Tobias Harris
Pistons get Kevin Love and Joakim Noah
Cavaliers get Kristaps Porzingis, Stanley Johnson, Ish Smith, Lance Thomas and Jon Leuer

I feel Detroit should be the one that has to take on Noah's contract considering they are getting a top 30 player in Kevin Love for a subpar package of players. I also believe the Knicks would want something else for giving up Porzingis' future. Tobias Harris is a native New Yorker, grew up in Long Island, his family still resides in New York, and he is very close to Carmelo Anthony so I believe it would be ideal that he becomes a Knick. If the Knicks are willing to give up Porzingis for Irving, Melo and Kyrie are a great duo and there is enough role guys on the roster to where they could make the playoffs this season and recruit others in free agency next season. If the Cavs believe LeBron is going to leave, try and grab a future superstar in Porzingis now, Johnson is a young asset, Smith gives them another stopgap at PG along with Derrick Rose and Jose Calderon and they hopefully won't become the Brooklyn Nets after LeBron leaves.

15 Aug 2017 16:39:16
Rockets get Melo
Jazz get Anderson Lee Thomas Houston future 1st
Knicks get Dieng Johnson Burks Favors Aldrich
Wolves get Noah OQuinn Ariza

Burks and Favors are injury prone. Lee and Anderson is just better Thomas future 1st is fair trade Johnson.ny cares about years remaining as they are rebuilding.

Ntilikina/Baker/Session
Hardaway/Burks/Randle
Johnson/Dotson/Kuzminkas
Dieng/Favors/Beasley
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Aldrich

15 Aug 2017 17:08:15
You should probably add 2 unprotected 1st rounders to Minnesota, nobody is taking Noah without it.

15 Aug 2017 17:20:47
No doubt that Noah is the worst deal in this trade, but Aldrich would be second. Based on having once less year and less AAV, I do agree the Wolves get additional compensation, but I don't see more than one first going there way.

15 Aug 2017 21:29:18
The Jazz wouldn't trade Favors who when healthy is a top 40 player who defends, rebounds, and scores on the inside for Anderson and Burks for basically an older version in Courtney Lee. In all reality the Jazz don't need Anderson as they have a pretty complete roster at this point. The Wolves would need at least two 1st Round picks if they were to take on Noah. The Rockets won't do a Nelo deal unless all they have to give up is Anderson and a first round pick and frankly they shouldn't become they need to keep depth. Trading Ariza or Capela or an extra first rounder would only be to the Rockets' detriment.

15 Aug 2017 23:08:44
I don't know much of a difference , with Dieng and Noah except age and health from what I know O'Quinn and Ariza bring to the bench more value then anybody they have no picks needed. Ariza is coming over for Melo.

15 Aug 2017 14:35:05
MIA-CLE-NYK-DET trade

Miami gets- Kyrie Irving

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony, Goran Dragic, Justice Winslow, Luke Kennard, Bam Adebayo

New York gets- Tobias Harris

Detroit gets- Kevin Love

Whats your thoughts?

15 Aug 2017 15:35:33
Moving Love for Melo still doesn't make sense for the Cavs. It makes less sense now than before. The Cavs need some continuity and Love can't walk at the end of the year. So theoretically, if Lebron walks, the Cavs can still use Love to add to whatever young talent they get out of Irving.

I also don't think that deal for Irving is as good as the Phoenix deal.

15 Aug 2017 17:15:09
So now your hopes are to build around Kevin love? Worked well for the wolves.

15 Aug 2017 17:44:08
No, I don't think they should build around Love. I think they should keep him this year and if Lebron walks trade him for picks and/ or young players.

15 Aug 2017 07:22:30
Phoenix-New York-Houston

Suns get Nkitilina & Anderson

New York get Bledsoe , Ariza & 1st from Rockets

Houston get Anthony

15 Aug 2017 15:13:36
Why wood phoenix trade Bledsoe for a lesser pg, and take on a huge contract? . They could have had muiday, and the 13th pick for just Bledsoe and passed. Just because he's younger then bledsoe doesn't make him more valuable.

15 Aug 2017 16:08:55
Well, Skills. PHX would take Ntilikina for Bledsoe because the Suns think he's more of a facilitator and he is younger with a lot of upside. It would take more than just Frank. to make a deal like this and PHX certainly doesn't want that huge contract Anderson has.

15 Aug 2017 01:40:17
CHI Bulls X NY Knicks X HOU Rockets

CHI - R.Anderson + C.Capela + 1st from HOU 2018

NY - N.Mirotic + T.Ariza

HOU - C.Anthony + R.Lopez

14 Aug 2017 16:41:49
Four team trade: Knicks/Cavaliers/76ers/Suns
New York Knicks trade: Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, Frank Ntilinkina, and Joakim Noah

New York Knicks receive: Kyrie Irving, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Dragan Bender, and Channing Frye

The Knicks are giving up their present and their future all in one deal here. So why would they do this deal? Simple: they are gaining an even brighter future. Irving is a proven star and wants nothing more than to play in New York. The Knicks have been unwilling to include Porzingis in a deal for Irving this offseason, so I remedied that by essentially swapping Anthony out for Saric and Covington, more than fair considering both of their ages and potential, and, more importantly, ridding them of Noah's lengthy and pricey contract. Swapping out Ntilinkina for Bender would be more of a positional swap than anything, as acquiring Irving wouldn't leave much room for Ntilinkina, however, acquiring Bender would provide the Knicks with Porzingis' replacement, one of the most similar type of players as compared to Porzingis in the league. Moreover, this trade would open up over $20 million worth of cap space, and potentially enough for a max contract, for the next offseason. Free agents have never been shy in their desire to play in New York, which would be even more the case with Irving in town and youngsters such as Saric and Bender around.

Irving/Ramon Sessions
Tim Hardaway Jr./Courtney Lee
Covington/Lance Thomas
Saric/Bender
Kyle O'Quinn/Willy Hernangomez



Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson, and Kay Felder

Cleveland Cavaliers receive: Eric Bledsoe, Carmelo Anthony, and Richaun Holmes

In terms of talent, this deal would provide the Cavaliers with more than a fair return in exchange for Irving. While this may not be the same case in terms of value (although definitely debatable), the Cavaliers have been really struggling to find a team willing to give up fair value for Irving and most likely will not find fair value for a player of Irving's status. The Cavaliers will be in a very weird spot this upcoming season with the uncertainty of James' future as a Cavalier hanging over their heads. They desire to acquire a veteran player along with a young prospect with high upside for Irving in the event that LeBron James is to bolt again. With this trade, they would not only acquire one veteran, one who is still only 27-years-old and probably just played his best season of basketball as a professional, but two, the other whose contract expires after this season and they could decide to re-sign should James opt to stay in Cleveland. Although Holmes doesn't possess as high of upside as the Cavaliers would hope, he is signed for two more years on a very cheap contract and coming off a breakout season in which he was extremely effective in terms of per 36 minutes statistics while holding down a very efficient field goal percentage and even stretching the floor for his team by hitting some three pointers. Ridding themselves of Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, and Felder would neutralize the blow the team would face for acquiring the pricey contracts of Bledsoe and Anthony.

Bledsoe/Derrick Rose
Anthony/Kyle Korver
James/J.R. Smith
Kevin Love/Jeff Green
Tristan Thompson/Holmes



Philadelphia 76ers trade: Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Richaun Holmes, Jahlil Okafor, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Kristaps Porzingis, Joakim Noah, and Richard Jefferson

Giving up four young players with solid upside, two potentially high draft picks, and taking on an absolutely terrible contract (along with a much smaller one) would be a hard pill for the 76ers to swallow. There are only a few players in the league worth this type of package and Porzingis is certainly one of them. Can you seriously imagine the 76ers acquiring Porzingis without giving up Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons, and Markelle Fultz? Wow! The potential for the team to succeed in the future would probably be something that has never been heard of in the past. If all these players are to live up to their highest potential, just imagine a team of James Harden, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, and Hakeem Olajuwon all playing together. That would be absolutely absurd! The best part would be that the team, even with Noah's contract on the books, would have just under $30 million to spend on free agents next season, with the chance to finesse enough cap space for a maximum contract if need be. Shooting and defense would probably be the two biggest needs for a team of this caliber, and with players such as Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Avery Bradley available, the team would have a variety of opportunities to complete their starting line-up for the next 10 years.

Fultz/Jerryd Bayless
J.J. Redick/Nik Stauskas
Simmons/Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
Porzingis/Amir Johnson
Embiid/Noah



Phoenix Suns trade: Eric Bledsoe and Dragan Bender

Phoenix Suns receive: Jahlil Okafor, Frank Ntilinkina, Iman Shumpert, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

The Phoenix Suns are one of the youngest teams in the league, and they are only hoping to get younger as they look to sell off veterans such as Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler, and a few others. They have the minutes and room for risk available to take a chance on a player like Okafor, who still has enough offensive potential in him to be a possible surprise for a team willing to take the risk in acquiring him. More important in this deal, however, would be the two picks the team would be acquiring. Even with the magical upside the 76ers would have on their roster following this trade, they would almost undoubtedly need another year to develop into a true contender, and that's not taking injuries into consideration. Granted, the Eastern Conference is probably as weak as it has ever been and the 76ers can just as easily sneak into the playoffs as a seventh or eighth seed as they can finish as an 11th or 12th seed, but even if this pick were to fall as far back as 15th, it would provide the Suns with an opportunity to draft a player with, at minimum, medial upside. The second pick the Suns would receive in this deal would either be the Lakers' draft pick next year or the Kings' draft pick in two years. They would receive the Lakers pick next year if it fell beyond the fifth slot. Considering the likeliness of their pick falling somewhere between the sixth and 10th slot in next year's draft, or the likeliness of the Kings' draft pick landing somewhere in the top five slot the following year, the return the Suns would be receiving in this trade for Bledsoe would be very worthwhile. As mentioned before, swapping Bender for Ntilinkina would be positional more than anything, as Marquese Chriss plays the same position that Bender plays and outperformed him this previous season. The Suns need themselves a young point guard of the future and the hope would be that Ntilinkina would be that guy for them.

Ntilinkina/Tyler Ulis
Devin Booker/Elijah Millsap
Josh Jackson/T.J. Warren
Chriss/Jared Dudley
Okafor/Tyson Chandler

14 Aug 2017 17:36:51
Philly says no, way too much to give up just for Zinger.

14 Aug 2017 17:37:20
Not bad. I think the biggest hang ups would be the amount the 76ers are giving up here and I'm not sure if the Cavs would be willing to go all in this year rather than getting a mix of young talent and established players. Holmes is young, but he is probably a career role player.

14 Aug 2017 19:16:47
Philly says no. Could go either way if that is too much for Porzingis but I could see it happen, but with adding Noah that is way too much imo. They should be keeping one of Covington or Saric and one of those first should become 2 seconds

14 Aug 2017 22:44:30
I agree that the 76ers may be giving up too much but what you guys have to understand is that the Knicks aren't at all desperate to trade Porzingis, and even Anthony for that matter taking into account the offers they've received for him, therefore, it would take a king's ransom deal to grab him. 76ers have a lot of assets that they will have to consolidate at some point, and they should that sooner rather than waiting till later and receiving pennies on the dollar.

Porzingis has a truly unique skill set, is a superstar in the making playing in a superstar's league, and is extremely young, making him worth the king's ransom. The fact that they would still have enough money to spend on a top free agent next season in an effort to fill out their line-up would be icing on the cake.

15 Aug 2017 00:41:57
Danny, I just think you're underestimating how much of a negative asset Noah is.

15 Aug 2017 03:43:41
No ones arguing that it would take a ransom to get him but Philly is giving up a ransom and then your acting like the Knicks can throw in one of the worst contracts in the NBA on top of it. Like I said I can see the Sixers doing that without Noah included

15 Aug 2017 15:24:17
I don't see phoenix doing this. Yes they're getting a lot, but it's mainly a lot of nothing. No one wants play of, and the Lakers pick I believe is already owed to Boston for moving up this year to #1. So it would be 2 years before they get the first rounder. And I don't believe they can trade they're own pick since they're already trading one. so basically phoenix trades Bledsoe, and bender for okafor schumperts contract, and the pg from new York.

14 Aug 2017 15:34:56
CLE - NYK - CHI - HOU

CLE get: Dwayne Wade, Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, Frank Ntilinka, Cameron Payne and Clint Capela

pg. Rose/ Payne/ Ntilinka
sg. Wade/ Korver
sf. James/ Ariza
pf. Love/ Anderson
c. Thompson/ Capela

NYK get: Kyrie Irving, Robin Lopez, and Channing Frye (exp)

pg. Irving/ Sessions
sg. Lee/ Baker
sf. THJ/ Beasley
pf. Porzingis/ Kuzminskas
c. Lopez/ Hernangomez

CHI get: Joakim Noah, Eric Gordon, Iman Shumpert, 2018 1st DP NYK (top 3 protected), and 2020 HOU 1st DP

pg. Dunn/ LaVine
sg. Gordon/ Holiday
sf. Mirotic/ Shumpert
pf. Markkanen/ Feleicio
c. Portis/ Noah

HOU get: Caremlo Anthony, JR Smith, and Kyle OQuinn

pg. Paul/ Brown
sg. Harden/ Smith
sf. Anthony/ Tucker
pf. OQuinn/ LMAM
c. Nene/ Qi

13 Aug 2017 23:15:48
Huge Blockbuster
Knicks receive: G Kyrie Irving, F Tobias Harris, G Brandon Knight, G Iman Shumpert, F Stanley Johnson
Cavaliers receive: F Carmelo Anthony, G Eric Bledsoe, G Courtney Lee, C Kyle O'Quinn, future second rounder (Pistons)
Pistons receive: F Kevin Love, F Lance Thomas
Suns receive: F Channing Frye, G Ish Smith, F Mindaugas Kuzminskas, 2018 Pistons 1st Round Pick (lottery-protected), 2019 Knicks 1st Round Pick (lottery-protected)

Post Trade
Knicks
PG Kyrie Irving / Frank Ntilinka
SG Tim Hardaway / Iman Shumpert
SF Tobias Harris / Stanley Johnson
PF Kristaps Porzingis/Mike Beasley
C Willy Hernangomez/Joakim Noah

Cavaliers
PG Eric Bledsoe / Derrick Rose
SG Courtney Lee / J.R. Smith
SF LeBron James / Kyle Korver
PFCarmelo Anthony/Rich Jefferson
C Tristan Thompson / Kyle O'Quinn

Pistons
PGReggie Jackson/Lang. Galloway
SG Avery Bradley / Luke Kennard
SF Lance Thomas / Reggie Bullock
PF Kevin Love / Jon Leuer
CAndre Drummond/Henry Ellenson

Suns
PG Tyler Ulis / Ish Smith
SG Devin Booker / T.J. Warren
SF Josh Jackson / Jared Dudley
PF Marquese Chriss / Alan Williams
C Tyson Chandler / Dragan Bender

Cavs perspective:
Think of it as two trades.
Bledsoe and Lee for Irving.
Carmelo and O'Quinn for Love.
Pretty fair deals and LeBron gets two guys who he would love to play with. Is Andrew Wiggins going to keep LeBron in Cleveland? Is LaMarcus Aldridge going to keep LeBron in Cleveland? The Cavs have to act accordingly and bring in guys to please LeBron. In the process, they cut more than $20M off their luxury tax payment.
Pistons perspective:
They need a star to pair up with Drummond. Giving up a decent role guy in Harris, a disappointing lottery pick in Johnson, a backup point in Smith, and a future 1st & 2nd Round Pick for a top 40 player in Kevin Love is a great deal.
Suns perspective:
Bledsoe has been injured year after year for them and he doesn't fit the timeline of the young players on the roster, so it's ideal to move him.
Netting two first round picks, getting rid of Brandon Knight's albatross of a contract, and getting a cheap veteran guard in return with Ish Smith makes for a solid return.
Knicks perspective:
How crazy would it be for the Knicks to turn disgruntled Carmelo Anthony into one of the five best PGs in basketball today? It would cost them. Taking on two bad contracts in Brandon Knight and Iman Shumpert. Trading away a future 1st Round Pick. But it's most definitely worth it. Plus moving aging role players like Lee, O'Quinn, and Thomas for younger, more effective players like Shumpert, Harris, and Johnson makes for a nice haul.

14 Aug 2017 11:30:35
If the Knicks want Irving it's going to cost them a lot more than Anthony -- and Anthony is on record as saying he would turn down any deal that doesn't end up with him in Houston.

14 Aug 2017 12:58:22
He is? On the record means he made a public official statement. So Anthony made a public statement saying he won't accept a trade anywhere but Houston? So weird that no one else saw this statement on the record by Carmelo Anthony.

Odd.

13 Aug 2017 08:27:30
4 Team Trade, each team gets....

New York:
Kyrie
Kyle Singler
Doug McDermott

Cleveland:
Eric Gordon
Trevor Ariza
Isaiah Taylor

Houston:
Carmelo Anthony
Ennes Kanter

Oklahoma:
Ryan Anderson
Clint Capela
Richard Jefferson

13 Aug 2017 09:43:01
Pretty hard pass from the Cavs and Rockets.

13 Aug 2017 11:51:05
Wait, what?
The Knicks get Irving without having to give up anything?
I don't think so.

13 Aug 2017 17:49:36
That's ugly for the Rockets. They get the worst of the Anderson for Kanter deal, and then also lose key pieces in Gordon, Capela and Ariza to land Melo. Everyone has talked about the Clippers depth being their downfall recently, what does a stripped down Rockets team like this look any differently.

 
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