08 Jul 2015 02:17:30
2 trades and a few free agent signings for the pistons
- (TRADE 1)
C BRANDON HAYWOOD (CLE)
'16 2ND ROUND PICK (BRO PICK) (LAC)
SG JORDAN CRAWFORD (LAC)
PF ANTHONY TOLLIVER (DET)
SG JODIE MEEKS (DET)
'16 2ND ROUND PICK (LAC PICK) (CLE)
PISTONS do this so they can waive haywood's non-querenteed contract of $10.5 million while giving up meeks and tolliver who make a combined $9.7 million and the 2nd rounder they get can help build next year too and in this case the pistons save nearly $10 million
CAVS are reportedly trying to trade haywood to get Crawford from the clippers and theyd get Crawford and tolliver who would make about $8.4 million so the cavs save about $2 million
CLIPPERS get meeks who could replace Crawford's production in the lineup and compete for minutes with Stephenson and the clippers get their 2nd round pick back from the cavs
- (TRADE 2)
C G. HERNANGOMEZ (rights to)
'17 2ND ROUND PICK (HOU pick)
'19 2ND ROUND PICK (CLE or HOU pick) (*)
(*) which ever pick is the lowest, the pistons get
PG B. JENNINGS
PISTONS get a draft and stash player who could take about 1-3 years before seeing the NBA and 2 draft picks in the years they traded away to the thunder in the Jackson deal this past season
KNICKS add the PG they need to help the team which calderon can serve as a backup
(FREE AGENCY PICKUPS)
PG KENDALL MARSHALL
1 YEAR $1,000,000
($2,000,000 TEAM OPTION FOR 2ND YEAR)
marshall can provide off the bench in hopes to get his career back on track and playing with the pistons and SVG can help him do that and compete with Dinwiddie with backup PG minutes
SG GLENN ROBINSON III or SETH CURRY
1 YEAR $1, 250,000
($1, 250,000 TEAM OPTION FOR 2ND YEAR)
either player would be depth for SG and could even compete with rookie hilliard for backup SG minutes
PF CARLOS BOOZER
1 YEAR $2, 500,000
($2, 500,000 PLAYER OPTION FOR 2ND YEAR)
boozer would be added as a veteran piece to a young team who currently has cartier martin as the oldest at 31 which is too young and boozer can compete for the starting PF with ilyasova
C GREG ODEN or HASHEEM THABEET
1 YEAR $1, 250,000
($1, 250,000 NON GUERENTEED FOR 2ND YEAR)
(the 2nd year option can be a player option if the don't miss more then 1/2 the games)
both players never lived up to their potential and draft slot (oden over Durant, marc gasol, horford and noah) and (thabeet over Rubio, derozen, harden and Stephen curry) but bringing either in on the vet minimum and can be the 3rd center
S. CURRY or G. ROBINSON III
G. ODEN or H. THABEET
this roster can make the playoffs and if the players the pistons signed above, do good, then they can be trade pieces at the deadline if needed and provide the pistons with whatever they can get for them and signing marshall, curry/robinson iii, oden/thabeet are all low risk high reward signings
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THE 2 TRADES AND THE FREE AGENCY SIGNINGS?????
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08 Jul 2015 02:17:30
08 Jul 2015 00:07:45
Celtics get Wilson Chandler and Ty Lawson
- slide Smart to SG, they got size on the wings so they can have small ball or bigger line up if they need to, if the 3 PG's doesn't work out, they could make a deal at middle of the season
Nuggets get Avery Bradley and Terrence Ross
- Nuggets do a move as part of the rebuild, Gallo or Faried could be also dealt somewhere and get young pieces
Raptors get Kelly Olynyk and 2nd from Nuggets
- Raptors get a hometown boy to play PF for them
- sign Gerald Green to rerplace Lou Williams
07 Jul 2015 21:04:47
Trade ideas .
Lac - mil
Mil - Crawford
Lac - Henson & bayless
Clev - ind - den
Ind - k faried
Den - haywood & draft pic
Cle - g hill
Phoe - was
Phoe - Nene
Was - mark Morris
Nyk - phil
Nyk - t wroten
Phi - Calderon
07 Jul 2015 17:21:25
Suns get J.Anderson D.Lee-gets along w/ everyone
Knicks get Markieff Felton-exp
Mavs get Calderon Early
Warriors get Ledo right to Laberyie-absorb no salary
Knicks in December can force D-Will-exp for Marcus
07 Jul 2015 16:56:37
Its obvious it can't be done until December bc D-Will was just signed
Suns get Derricks Williams replaces marcus morris
mavs get Calderon Early Ledo -lin better in reduce role
Warriors get right to Laberyie-no salary taken back
knicks get D.Lee J.Anderson sign A.Bynum & P.Pressey
14-18 to 28-22 7th seed
07 Jul 2015 15:01:19
sign Jr Smith 4yr 9 million
Resign S Williams to 2yr 3 million
Trade Puchulia Plumlee to clips for 2018 1 round pick
Trade bayless to to knicks for a 2016 second round pick
2015 2016 roster
07 Jul 2015 15:47:30
Jr smith will not take 2 million per year to play with the bucks! He opted out of 6 million
07 Jul 2015 15:48:39
Jr smith opted out of a 7 mill 1 year contract and you think hell sign for 4 years at 2.25 mil per year? nice.
Secondly. those trades won't happen. Otherwise, makes sense.
07 Jul 2015 15:48:49
Jr smith left 6mil on the table so he can sign 4yr 9 mil deal with bucks to play sf a position he only played do to injuries. Shumpert usually defended the sf. Get a clue
07 Jul 2015 17:33:29
wow booger, that seems a tad over the top! Why so offended?!?
07 Jul 2015 18:01:51
Fine about 4yr 24 mil for Smith
07 Jul 2015 18:08:15
Jr smith sucked in the finals a d the bucks need more shooting and that's why the bcks are one of the top potential landing spots for Jr smith
LOOK IT UP IF U DON'T BELIEVE ME
07 Jul 2015 07:27:51
Knicks get Taj gibson bulls get Jose Calderon reason= bulls get back up pg when rose gets injured plus another shooter off the bench and knicks get starting pf so kristaps can come off the bench so he can develop
07 Jul 2015 07:52:10
No way bulls make that trade.
07 Jul 2015 15:28:09
Taj gibson is a good player but if think about it the bulls have pau gasol. mirotic. and no point guards but rose rest are sg or combo guards bulls need a passer and someone who can hit the 3 plus Taj gibson wants to start and Calderon was good on mavs u can't go by knicks stats cause the team was tanking and bulls save few million . Phil Jackson just needs that car salesman pitch :D
07 Jul 2015 16:23:28
if they need a guard , its not calderon. calderon is okay but not worth gibson
07 Jul 2015 17:58:43
please stop. horrible trade
07 Jul 2015 01:24:54
Knicks get Pekovic
wolves get Deron Williams J.Anderson Ledo
Nets get Rubio Felton-exp
Mavs get Calderon Early
wolves clear future cap looking clear payroll, In temp lure D-Will out of his contract next yr . Levine will see more minutes as starter. In addition
Nets build for the future and healthy younger pg of the future.
Mavs get starting pg, lin or Barea and Harris are reserve guards.
Calderon/Barea or Lin/Terry
Knicks get post scorer and proven rebounder
07 Jul 2015 02:32:20
Wolves are not going to trade Rubio for Williams, and you obviously don't watch the Wolves otherwise you would know that Lavine is NOT a point guard in any way
07 Jul 2015 03:43:13
LaVine is not a PG. If you watched him last year, that would be obvious to you.
07 Jul 2015 03:44:25
No way Wolves take on Williams and his contract for the next 2 years. He's not a glue guy either for that young group of players like Garnett is.
06 Jul 2015 19:55:31
a lot of trades:
1) Nets-76ers (dealing with Williams)
Nets get Tony Wroten
76ers get Deron Williams, 2016 1st round pick(protected)
2) Nets-Memphis-Pacers (dealing with Johnson)
Nets get Solomon Hill, Vince Carter(stretch)
Memphis gets Joe Johnson
Pacers get Courtney Lee
3) NYK-GSW (dealing with Lee)
Knicks get David Lee
Warriors get Alexey Shved, Travis Wear (decline team options)
4) LAL-Pacers (dealing with Hibbert)
Lakers get Roy Hibbert
Pacers get Nick Young, Jordan Hill(waive)
Wizards get Jamal Crawford, Jordan Farmar
Clippers get Nene
Raptors get Taj Gibson, Doug McDermott
Bulls get Terrance Ross, James Johnson, 2016 2nd round pick
Blazers get Tyreke Evans, Ryan Anderson
Pelicans get Chris Kaman, CJ McCollum
Suns get Wilson Chandler
Nuggets get PJ Tucker, 2016 2nd round pick
Celtics get Nikola Pekovic
Timberwolves get Tyler Zeller, Gerald Wallace(stretch)
Pistons get Cody Zeller, Spencer Hawes
Hornets get Jodie Meeks, Anthony Tolliver
06 Jul 2015 20:28:52
didnt realize Hibbert deal was already final so ignore that one
06 Jul 2015 21:11:52
Trade #1 can't work. Brooklyn already owes its 2016 first round pick to Boston
06 Jul 2015 22:50:02
Hill is a free agent so you can't waive him
06 Jul 2015 23:34:11
Trade 7 is a joke,,Pelicans pass immediately. We ran Kaman out of here once already. And Tyreke is going nowhere
07 Jul 2015 01:17:12
Celtics and twolves makes sense
07 Jul 2015 01:43:16
Can we ignore him!
07 Jul 2015 12:43:01
Wow. Just Wow.
On trade #1, as noted, the Nets can't trade a first rounder until 2020. They can swap starting 2019.
Also on trade #1, that's a salary dump on the Sixers. If you thought the trade with the Kings was one sided, then absorbing the Williams contract would have to be much more favorable towards the receiving team. No way the Sixers give up Wroten. They'd have to receive at least the right to swap 2019 picks, the 2020 1st rounder and maybe the 2022 1st rounder.
Lastly, the Williams contract is actually worse than you think. It has a 15% trade kicker built into it. That's at least another $3 million.
05 Jul 2015 20:35:01
Mavs get Calderon Ledo Early
Pistons get Felton-exp Galloway ny Cash 2.5 exception
Knicks get Jennings Meeks J.anderson
Pistons create cap space to get best backup to Drummond 4yr 50mil
05 Jul 2015 20:54:28
The pistons just signed Aron baynes to a 3yr-20mil so they are not lookin to get another backup center.
06 Jul 2015 01:25:12
No way this makes zero sense to detroit.
06 Jul 2015 14:38:27
Firs off most likely the Pistons are going to cut Granger to save the cap hit which is little but he is not destine to make this team at this point. Second Why would Detroit break up the core of what they have to take a step back.,
05 Jul 2015 20:30:22
76ers / Knicks / Pistons
Sixers get Jerrian grant and calderon(salary dump).
Knicks get Brandon Jennings and future #2 from philly.
Pistons get OKC #1 next year.
Why it works:
1. Philly gets pg of future in Grant. Good size, can develop with young team.
2. Knicks get more productive pg in Jennings. Jennings and Calderon make almost identical $$, only difference is Calderon is signed for 2 more years, Jennings only 1 year. Advantage Knicks. Plus Knicks get one of their future #2's back that philly owns.
3. Pistons get another #1 pick in next years draft, plus free themselves of $8million in salary. Detroit is going with Reggie Jackson as the PG and Dinwiddie as his backup. Jennings is a legit starter, but odd man out in Detroit.
05 Jul 2015 22:56:36
I don't think philly wants their pg of the future now. I think they want to draft a better one.
06 Jul 2015 00:52:02
Yes! I like it. Sixers say YES!
06 Jul 2015 01:27:58
Not bad but I'd like to see what jennings can do as a offensive spark plug off the bench. Also dinnwiddie might not be ready for big minutes yet so Pistons would need a backup for Reggie.
06 Jul 2015 08:27:57
Goatface. That's a very expensive bench player.
05 Jul 2015 19:30:46
Knicks - Jrue Holiday
Pelicans - Protected 1st round pick
With extra cap room
Sign Lou Williams 3 yr 30 million
Sign Gerald Green 3 year 12 Million
Resign Norris Cole
PG - Evans/Cole
SG - Gordon/Williams
SF - Green/Pondexter
PF - Davis/Anderson/Cunningham
C - Asik/Aijanca
Slight improvement from currant roster but They add 2 extra shooters in Williams and Green with a future 1st for Holiday
05 Jul 2015 20:33:58
Evans not Holiday maybe?
05 Jul 2015 22:58:38
The Knicks can't afford j holiday contract
06 Jul 2015 00:52:28
Lou Williams is now a Laker.
05 Jul 2015 17:59:00
Mavs get Calderon Ledo Early
Pistons get Felton-exp Galloway Cash 2.5 exception
Knicks get Jennings Meeks J.anderson
05 Jul 2015 16:40:17
Sac - sign j smith or a back up pf that can stretch the floor
Phoe - mqx out kanter. Or sign c boozer or trade for nene/d lee
Bos - trade for pekovic or Max out kanter Sign lou Williams
Dal - trade for Calderon or sign r Jackson. Sign lou Williams.
Det - need a back up pf. Maybe h sims/blatche/b bass
Ind - sign j smith/c villanula/Bonner
Was - d west of boozer
Mil - need a back up pf that can shoot. Maybe m Bonner/bargnani/teletovic. Or trade zaza for mark morris
Nyk - trade Calderon for draft then sign 2-3 players
Lac - sign d league/summer league players
Lakers - resign w Johnson. Sign kc McDaniels
Den - ty Lawson come off the bench or trade him for g hill or mcw & on mayo
05 Jul 2015 15:27:47
Nyk - Dal
Nyk get: 2nd round pick
Dal get: Calderon
Sign: Norris Cole
05 Jul 2015 17:37:01
They can't take calderon with moving Felton. Knicks not making the trade without J.Anderson. add throw a in Early
05 Jul 2015 19:05:45
Your not getting Cole
05 Jul 2015 05:24:33
Knicks 2 final trades
Knicks trade future 2nd rnd pick for david lee
Knicks trade jose calderon for brandon jennings
Sign Gerald Green
Brandon Jennings/Jerian Grant
Aaron Afflalo/Gerald Green
Carmelo Anthony/Derrick Williams
David Lee/Kyle O quinn
Robin Lopez/Kristaps Porzingis
05 Jul 2015 09:44:16
The first trade makes sense, not sure if pistons would agree to the 2nd deal.
05 Jul 2015 14:19:53
First trade: When absorbing a huge contract, you get something for doing that. The Knicks should not send a 2nd and get Lee, they should receive a pick and get Lee. (see Sixers-Kings trade). So the Knicks don't do trade 1.
Second trade: Why would anyone give up Jennings for Calderon? Pistons don't do trade 2.
05 Jul 2015 16:15:43
The Knicks only have about 2.2 mil left to spend. They can't absorb d Lee contract.
05 Jul 2015 00:11:18
Knicks failure to free agency leads to melo to Miami
Melo Calderon Ledo for Chalmers Deng Winslow Napier McRoberts
Desperate team might make playoffs, but definitely developing 6 players. Makes up for lack picks over the 3 years.
04 Jul 2015 23:57:32
I don't see anybody better for Dallas to get than Calderon of remaining ufa in mavs
Calderon Early for Felton J.Anderson
Knicks sign 4yr 28 mil Javale McGee, clippers can't match
05 Jul 2015 09:47:15
Calderon had one of his best seasons in Dallas, would makes sense for them to bring him back.
05 Jul 2015 14:21:10
Would not sign McGee to a 4 year contract. He's really not that good. Wouldn't sign him for more than 2 years.
05 Jul 2015 16:17:59
I would make that trade. But McGee is not worth that contract.
04 Jul 2015 22:03:51
DEN get Terrence Jones, Trevor Ariza, Sam Dekker and Jose Calderon, future 1st from HOU
NYK get Kenneth Faried, Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari and future 1st from HOU
HOU get Carmelo Anthony and Ty Lawson
04 Jul 2015 17:18:21
New York Knicks
Either try trade Jose Calderon for nothing if got to take something back maybe a future 2nd round pick. But that likely won't happen so I would Stretch provision his contract over nxt 5yrs.
With that extra money I would then sign Josh Smith to a 1/2yr contract
Also Sign Landry Fields, Thanasis Antetokounmpo and Jameer Nelson
Resign Alexy Shved, Jason Smith and Cole Aldrich
Pg Grant/ Galloway/ Nelson
Sg Affalo/ Shved/ Fields
Sf Anthony/ Ealry/ Antetokounmpo
Pf Smith/ Pozingis/ Williams
C Lopez/ Smith/ Aldrich
How about that?
04 Jul 2015 20:02:38
Williams will be in rotation for 5 mil. What a terrible deal. Over paying him and Lopez
04 Jul 2015 20:32:14
The Knicks need a scoring big man
04 Jul 2015 20:35:18
Lopez is not overpaid, and Williams is only on a 2year deal and he has a lot of potential.
04 Jul 2015 21:42:18
Maybe they need to somehow overpay someone because no one is signing.