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30 Apr 2017 15:57:56
As a sixer fan I hope they get the top pick and draft Fultz. But there's only a 14% chance of that happening. More realistic the laker pick conveys(53%) and sixers wind up with picks 5 and 6.
Draft:#5 Isaac, #6 Monk. Seems reasonable.
Sign:JJ Redick 2 years/42m. Seems reasonable.
Sixers get Melo
Knicks get OKC 2020 protected#1, 2019 knicks #2 returned, Stauskas.
Sixers take back Melos 56 million for 2 years. Melo is still close to NY and 1 hour from his home town. Knicks get a late #1, early #2, a back up shooting guard and salary relief.
After 2 years Melo and Redicks contracts expire. Fits Sixers timetable of salary perfectly. let's young guns( all 19yrs old) Isaac, Monk, and Korkmaz ease into future starting roles. Saric becomes ultimate 6th man and leads second unit. Very fluid roster with possible position movement for better match ups. Eventually seeing Isaac as the starting stretch 4 once he bulks up some. Most likely Okafor is also moved some time soon for future pick. The additions of redick and melo added to a core of simmons. Embiid, and saric ahould lead this team into the playoffs. Playoff experience for these young guys should pay dividends buy the time they are all 22-26 and hitting their primes. Plus Sixers still have all their own pick, a valuable unprotected Kings #1 in 2019, and more 2nd rounders then they can handle.
30 Apr 2017 16:29:25
1. Any trade needs Anthony's approval. Why would he agree to go to one of the worst teams in the league?
2. Why would a team with young talent and a future want Anthony?
Doesn't make sense from either end.
30 Apr 2017 16:53:19
Supercollinder: Actually you kinda contradicted yourself. Worst team in the league, but has talent and a future? You can't judge the same thing in the present and future tense just to fit your opinion. Also, Porzingis said he loved playing with melo because it " made the game easier for him". I think guys like simmons, embiid, and saric could also benefit in a similiar way. Young guys always point to the veterans as to why they where able to figure out " how to succeed" in the Association. A "future" in NBA terms means " if it don't happen in 3-5 years, its time to rebuild again. Sixers are on the cusp of being a good team. Plus, there aren't many top teams that can take Melos humungous salary hit. Just because he has a no trade clause doesn't mean he can pick any team, it only means he can pick from the teams that can afford to trade for him. Hope this answered your questions.
30 Apr 2017 17:25:26
I think Melo to Philly makes a lot of sense actually. For all Supercollider's hate on of Anthony, teammates seem to like him. He got rave reviews from his teammates in Brazil, and you hear a guy like Zinger talk with reverence about him, and at least partly skipped his exit interview with PJ based on how Melo was treated.
I also think Melo would consider Philly, they're a better team than the Knicks right now, will continue to grow, and he'll still get the chance to be the go-to scorer there.
30 Apr 2017 17:37:55
Jvoug, you realize who talking to about Melo?
30 Apr 2017 11:55:04
Three team trade
Detroit; Alex Len NY #7 draft pick Brandon Knight
Knicks; Tyson Chandler, Reggie Jackson and #12 Detroit pick
30 Apr 2017 15:43:09
Knicks already have a logjam at center, and Jackson doesn't fit the triangle. Knicks say no.
30 Apr 2017 07:46:37
There is a lot of talk about Celtics offseason. I think this one is realistic and a great for Boston.
1. We get lucky in the lottery and get the 1st pick
2. Draft Night: Draft Fultz with the 1st pick. Trade Bradley( I love him, but his contract expires, and we must look for the future cap situation) to Minnesota for a future 1st Rounder. Draft Bell in the 2nd Round and trade they other 2nd Round picks.
3. Let walk Olynyk, Johnson, Micky, Young, Jerebko and Jackson
4.Free Agency: Sign Hayward(4year max),Sign Ian Clark with our MLE (8.4Mil) to a 4 year 33.6 Mil deal, Sign Andrew Bigut(Vet. Min) Sign Aaron Brooks (Vet.Min) and brung back Gerald Green for the Vet. Min.
PG: Thomas ' Rozier ' Brooks
SG: Fultz ' Smart ' Clark
SF: Hayward ' Brown ' Green
PF: Crowder ' Yabussele ' Bell
C: Horford ' Zizic ' Bogut
This is a great Team with a big future.
30 Apr 2017 11:53:34
Harry, there are some problems here:
1. Between bad luck and the NBA rigging the lottery, we always get screwed over. I expect nothing less this year. Others may be counting on Fultz, but I'm not.
2. Not opposed to trading Bradley, but in your scenario next year's rotation would have three rookies and a second-year player. Young teams lose.
3. Thomas, Fultz, Hayward, Crowder and Horford. Who is going to rebound? You've traded away the team's best rebounder (Bradley) for a draft pick.
4. Speaking of draft picks, why would we need another one? The Celtics have enough to get them into the next century.
30 Apr 2017 14:16:18
Not bad. Maybe instead of going after picks for Bradley, they could go after a Center or Pf who can rebound. I highly doubt Bogut takes the minimum to play for that team.
30 Apr 2017 16:30:23
Would Boston be able to resign IT if they sign another max guy like Hayward with already having an overpaid horford?
30 Apr 2017 17:52:17
Simmonsorbust, I believe Bradley and Thomas are both signed for another year. Their contracts wouldn't affect any signings this summer, but two years from now the Celtics would be deep in the luxury tax if they kept both and added another max guy.
29 Apr 2017 15:39:26
Say the sixers get the 2nd pick and the lakers pick at 4:
Sixers trade: 4, okafor, 2 seconds, and 2020 unprotected first
Knicks trade: porzingis
Sixers trade: picks 2, stauskas, 2019 first
Blazers trade: McCullum
Sixers lineup next season:
29 Apr 2017 15:47:31
Prolly have to trade the 2nd instead of the 4th bc I'm sure the Knicks would want either Ball, Fultz, or Jackson in return for Porzingis.
29 Apr 2017 15:57:22
Neither knicks nor blazers go for these trades. Value is definitely there for the blazer deal, but i think McCollum is not going to be traded. I don't know the depth of the issues between Porzingis and knick management, but if they can work things out, Porzingis isn't leaving NY.
29 Apr 2017 01:45:57
LAL get Carmelo Anthony & 2nd round pick
NYK get Jordan Clarkson & Corey Brewer
28 Apr 2017 15:52:53
Boston and Chicago move
J.Butler by J.Crowder, A.Bradley, D.Jackson, J. Mickey,pick37
Danilo Gallinari 78.M for 4 years
Gerald Green 1 year minimum salary
Kelly Olynnyk 30.M for 4 years
Celtics Roster 2017
28 Apr 2017 16:47:54
A Gallo, Horford frontcourt would be really small.
28 Apr 2017 16:48:48
If Chicago deals Butler and starts a rebuild, they probably don't want bradley or Crowder. They'd want the picks and young players, which Boston has.
28 Apr 2017 16:50:11
Gallinari is not likely to agree to a 3 million dollar raise even know he hasn't played close to full season since he was a Knick. Someone will give him a contract, just not the C's. As for KO, he'll get way more on the open market, he'll get 50-60.
Bos-Chi. Unless Bos has a replacement for Bradley I don't see him being part of this deal. Crowder yes, but Bulls would want more in the line of a Nets pick in that deal to go along with Jackson and Mickey.
27 Apr 2017 07:50:35
Thunder get C.Anthony & K.Oquinn
Knicks get J.Crowder
Celtics get S.Adams & K.Singler
27 Apr 2017 11:58:10
If I'm OKC, I'd maybe rather have Crowder than Melo.
27 Apr 2017 19:02:07
Don't know why OKC would do this, they are over the cap with Adams and Singler already and Melo would put them 20 mil more over the cap.
But as a C's fan I would love to see this deal, Then flip Singler for a second rd. pick or a truck load of balls.
27 Apr 2017 07:09:31
Thunder acquire C.Anthony & K.Oquinn
I think Melo & Westbrook could work very well together & with the support of Adams & Oladipo , they can contend and go deeper into playoffs
Knicks acquire E.Kanter , A.Roberson , D.McDermott & 21st pick
They have 2 young front court guys but Kanter could be a nice rotational player. They could deal him at the deadline if it doesn't work out. They get 2 young wing players that could grow with Zinger
27 Apr 2017 13:00:22
An overpriced big man that plays no defense and the having the worst 3 position in league history. Makes a lot of sense. Knicks better off cutting melo than what they get back.
26 Apr 2017 22:14:15
Knicks get Allen Crabbe, Al-Farouq Aminu, Doug McDermott, Kyle Singler, and #21 pick (via Thunder)
Thunder get Carmelo Anthony, Kyle O'Quinn, and #26 pick (via Blazers)
Blazers get Enes Kanter, Courtney Lee, and #58 pick (via Knicks)
26 Apr 2017 23:00:15
Pass from Portland. I'd rather pay crabbe than kanter, at least crabbe isn't the worst defender in the NBA. Also, kanter and Nurkic wouldn't work together.
Lee and Aminu is probably a push, though I'd take the defensive guy in Aminu.
27 Apr 2017 01:23:13
I think POR should consider that, Kanter will be their main guy of the bench to back up Nurkic, Courtney Lee can provide a spark off that bench too.
26 Apr 2017 16:02:54
Lee Noah and a 2nd
Rubio and Aldrich
Knicks draft Monk
Twolves draft Isaac
26 Apr 2017 16:15:09
Minnesota isn't giving up Rubio and taking on Noahs contract. I don't think the Timberwolves would give up Rubio for that even if you took out Noah.
26 Apr 2017 17:22:24
Knicks had their chance to grab Rubio at the deadline and lost him because Jackson got greedy. With the way he played after the deadline, and the fact that Dunn may not be ready yet, Rubio only gets moved if it's a really good offer, and this isn't one.
26 Apr 2017 15:16:33
Celtics get Krstaps Porzingus
Knicks get Celtics 2017 pick, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown
26 Apr 2017 16:17:23
I don't see why the Knicks would do this. It would probably take a king's ransom to get Porzingis from them.
26 Apr 2017 16:28:24
17 Nets pick, 17 second rd. pick and Smart for the Zinger and Lee.
26 Apr 2017 20:12:27
The nets picks only starts discussions.
26 Apr 2017 23:10:42
Well the lick is obviously the Nets pick. that's the only pick that Boston has in the 1st round.
26 Apr 2017 12:23:37
NYK and ORL
NYK get Payton and Biyombo
ORL get Noah and NYK 2017 1st rounder
Knicks get rid of Noah's contract they take on Biyombo's but Biyombo is less injury prone and will help take pressure of Porzingis on the defensive end. Payton gives them a young pg who can get the ball to the stars and drive the open lanes.
Magic get Noah's bad contract but they have time to kill as they search for a star and adding another pick gives them a better chance of that.
26 Apr 2017 13:23:44
As much as getting rid of Noah's contract would be fantastic, I don't think that Biyombo's contract and an underachieving Peyton is worth giving up the number 7 pick.
Biyombo has a similar contract to Noah's, and will never live up to it.
26 Apr 2017 13:57:09
Exactly. This would be a worthwhile deal if it was a mid-late 1st rounder, but 7 is way too high just to unload Noah for that return. I could see that kind of a package being moved for a better player on a terrible team like Lopez though.
26 Apr 2017 20:46:25
HAHAH rather homer trade nothing but net. Biyombo has the exact same contract. But instead of being a great defender/ rebounder like noah when noah is ever actually healthy, biyombo is a below average center. awful.
26 Apr 2017 04:24:35
OKC get Melo Noah Clip. & Griz 2019
Knicks get Oladipo Crowder
Celtics get Kanter
26 Apr 2017 04:54:35
New York getting too much.
26 Apr 2017 05:24:43
All around bad trade.
26 Apr 2017 06:27:48
I think Melo would be a good fit in OKC, filling hole that persists from Durant leaving. However, don't think they'd be interested in giving up Oladipo for him. Celtics certainly wouldn't give up Crowder for Kanter; Kanter is not only a worse player but his contract is much worse and would put them out of the running to try and sign Hayward in offseason and other potential moves to get a star.
26 Apr 2017 14:13:56
Exactly Jaw. It's not a bad get for OKC, it's a great move for NY, but it's a terrible trade for the Celtics.
26 Apr 2017 16:25:01
Take Crowder out of the deal and Boston might take a flyer on Kanter as a lower-rotation big.
26 Apr 2017 17:45:31
Boston gets screwed in that deal. Lmao.
26 Apr 2017 03:09:47
Heat get Porzingis Noah Hernangomez Thomas
Knicks get Whiteside McRoberts Ellington
Knicks sign CP3 and Milsap max deal
McGee for MLE
Both teams top 4 seed.
Dragic Noah for Lopez Rondo-release
26 Apr 2017 14:24:51
This actually seems like the kind of trade I can see Jackson making. I don't think he's there for the long haul, so he might be willing to sacrifice the Knicks future on a get rich quick scheme.
25 Apr 2017 18:24:33
Suns get - Winslow and Knicks 1st
Knicks get - Whiteside
Heat get - Suns 1st, Noah, and Hernangomez
Heat trade Dragic for Teletovic and their 1st
Suns draft - Smith
Heat draft - Ball, Giles and Anunoby
FA (Mills or Hill)
25 Apr 2017 18:36:01
Suns NEVER do this!
25 Apr 2017 19:07:44
The only one who says yes is the Knicks.
26 Apr 2017 08:47:42
Garbage trade for Suns!
25 Apr 2017 18:15:38
Portland - Indiana - Boston - Philadelphia
Portland trades: CJ McCollum, Meyers Leonard, 2017 Memphis Pick
Portland Receives: 2017 Brooklyn 1st, Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson (waive), tyler Zeller (waive)
Beyond trade: Waive Ezeli, draft Markelle Fultz, draft Jordan Bell, trade Cleveland pick for more salary cap relief
Indiana Trades: Paul George, 2017 own pick
Indiana receives: CJ McCollum, Philadelphia 2017 pick
Beyond Trade: Draft josh Jackson or jayson Tatum
Boston Trades: Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Brooklyn 1st
Boston Receives: Paul George
Philadelphia Trades: Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson, 2017 own 1st
Philadelphia Receives: Avery Bradley, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Ind 1st, 2017 Mem pick
Beyond Trade: Draft more prospects and continue the Process
Post Draft Depth Charts
Lillard, turner, Napier
Vonleh, Davis, Bell
McCollum, Robinson lll
Turner, Jefferson, seraphim
FA signing, another FA signing
Simmons, Bayless, McConnell
Bradley, Luwawu Cabarrot, Stauskas
Why each team makes these moves?
Portland cuts nearly $30 million from their payroll and get the number 1 overall pick who played at a nearby college. Lillard and Fultz could be the most lethal backcourt in the NBA. They both can score at will and can create for their teammates. Portland also get a local in Jordan bell whose defensive capabilities can make up for nurkic and okafor's defensive woes.
Indiana makes a quick rebuild. McCollum and a top 5 pick is about as good of a return for George they could ask for. They remain a playoff caliber team.
Boston gets the superstar they've been trying for and they get rid of Bradley before they have to face the dilemma of resigning him for a lot of money or letting him go for nothing.
Philadelphia gets an excellent two way SG in Bradley who pairs well with Simmons. They get rid of Okafor, who they have no room for anymore with their plethora of quality big men. They do give up a high pick but they get two middle of the pack 1st round draft picks in which they can stockpile even more talent. And who knows they might still get a top 5 pick if the lakers pick falls to them.
25 Apr 2017 20:10:03
No Paul George trade makes sense unless the acquiring team has an assurance that he will sign long-term. In this instance, Boston is not going to trade a starter and the potential No. 1 pick if there is even a chance that George bolts to the Lakers after next season.
26 Apr 2017 00:30:45
If Boston does that need a future 1st rd. coming back to them, not just George. Supercollider is right that's a bit much for a rental. And whoever disagreed is only doing it for obvious reasons, that's just how this blog rolls.
25 Apr 2017 15:44:01
Boston: B Lopez+ Porzingis
Nets: J Noah+ 1rnd pick Knicks 17
Knicks: 1rnd pick Nets 17 and 18
Boston receive a young superstar and a descent center
The Nets get a good pick
NY can rebuilt around Fullz
25 Apr 2017 16:25:55
Boston won't do that. They need rebounding center and Lopez isn't one.
25 Apr 2017 16:37:40
Don't see why Boston would make a move for two starting caliber big men when they have Horford.
25 Apr 2017 16:57:37
Porzingis and Horford would be a beastly duo.
25 Apr 2017 17:22:15
Same problem when you posted this before, who doesn't start out of Horford, Lopez and Porzingis?
25 Apr 2017 17:32:28
Not sure why Nets are in this. Don't think they get a top 10 lotto pick for taking Noah's contract and Lopez who is an expiring contract. Lopez one of the worst rebounding centers in the league (rebounding is Celtics biggest issue) and if they are getting Porzingis too he'd be a bad fit with Celtics.
25 Apr 2017 06:04:56
LAL get Carmelo Anthony
NYK get Luol Deng & Jordan Clarkson + HOU 1st round pick
LAL get Paul George & Monta Ellis
IND get Brandon Ingram , Tim Mozgov & 3rd overall pick
LAL sign Thabo Sefolosha
Pf Randle/Nance Jr
25 Apr 2017 09:03:11
Not a fan of that end result; Pacers could trade for Melo and have arguably better team with Turner and if they resign Teague.
Melo would be a low asset acquisition that could help Lakers and I think value is about right there (maybe they can get away with not including Houston pick) . However, main issue is Melo's contract which would be quite prohibitive in adding additional talent (wouldn't be that bad if Melo declined 18-19 player option but doubt he does) .
The offer for George I don't think Pacers could pass up. Potential of Turner, Ingram and Ball would be a promising trio. Even if they get Jackson instead of Ball it would still be dynamic trio and if they kept Teague they wouldn't be bad in a few years. Its probably a bit too much for Lakers to give up both Ingram and 3rd overall in a trade for George (especially considering they could potentially get him for free if they wait for him to be a FA) . I think a more realistic offer would be 1 of Russell, Ingram and 3rd overall paired with either Randle or Nance (not sure if they'd be able to dump Mozgov's contract too) .
25 Apr 2017 10:05:46
Knicks could get a higher first for melo so this needs to be sweetened especially as they are getting Dengs bad contract when they already have Noah's.
Pacers would need more picks or another young asset as their taking mozgov who an awful contract.
25 Apr 2017 10:57:11
I love the 3rd pick plus Ingram trade for Indy.
25 Apr 2017 14:31:25
People keep forgetting the knicks would need incentive to move melo. As in, it would have to better the team. They are a couple years away from possibly contending, so it would be better to just hold onto melo, as he would probably opt out after this year if its that bad, instead of picking up a longer bad contract like deng.
They are in no rush. Simple as that. This deal sucks.
25 Apr 2017 01:58:07
DET get Carmelo Anthony , Kyle Oquinn & 2020 1st round pick
sign Patty Mills
NYK get Stanley Johnson , Boban Marjanovic & Reggie Jackson
draft Malik Monk
25 Apr 2017 02:55:03
I don't see the Knicks being willing to part with what most likely will be a fairly high pick.
25 Apr 2017 04:24:09
Melo is best player in trade, in city he would not want to go to. yet ny giving up future 1st. Good luck with that thought.
25 Apr 2017 04:44:15
What about Tobias Harris instead of Stanley then change the 1st to 2 2nds?
25 Apr 2017 05:36:47
Maybe Harris for Reggie Jackson (I think it would be over be overpaying for Melo) . I just don't see where Jackson would really fit into the Knicks future. It would work better as a 3 way trade with the third team needing a veteran pg.
25 Apr 2017 16:46:04
Melo to the Pistons about 15 years to late.
24 Apr 2017 16:37:10
3 team trade to make PG13 stay
Ind - Melo
Knicks - Thad, Ennis, and Wright
Mem - Ellis
Knicks draft Smith
Pacers draft Bacon
Teague - Young
Stephenson - Bacon
PG - Miles
Melo - Robinson
Turner - Jefferson
24 Apr 2017 20:50:54
Ellis Young Jefferson
As good as it gets.
24 Apr 2017 21:01:07
I think Melo and PG13 together would go badly.
24 Apr 2017 23:28:29
Don't think Melo would want to go to Indy nor do I think he'd be enough to keep George in Indy.
25 Apr 2017 15:29:36
I'm not sure how PG13 and Melo would mesh, but Turner has the right skill set to play with him. Melo at the 4 needs a strong defensive and rebounding presence playing alongside him.