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25 Oct 2016 21:59:51
Knicks/ C's

To BOS - Melo

To NYK - Crowder, Jerekbo, Johnson, Memphis 1st

If the Knicks get to mid season and it's a train wreck (50-50 chance I think), then it's time to move on from Melo. This deal gives them a younger solid SF, cap flexibility with Amir and Jonas' expiring deals, and a mid to late 1st round pick.

The C's need a go-to scorer (their players have even suggested it in interviews) . While we all know the downfalls in Melo's game, the fact is he's a scorer who has become more of a defender and team player in the last one to two years. The C's get a 22-25PPG guy.

25 Oct 2016 22:21:35
Melo wouldn't want to leave NYC and be has a no trade clause.

26 Oct 2016 00:30:33
I like this idea NY should rebuilt

NY: Smart+ Crowder+ A Johnson+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19
Clippers: I Thomas+ J Brown+ Jerebko+ 1rnd pick Clippers 19
Boston: CP3+ Melo

C:Olynyk/ Zeller
PF: Horford/ Zeller
SF: Anthony/ Green
SG: Bradley/ Hunter
PG:CP3/ Rozier.

26 Oct 2016 01:28:53
Anthony is a ball-stopper who would not fit in in Boston on offense or defense. Wouldn't trade Crowder for him even up.

26 Oct 2016 00:30:33
I like this idea NY should rebuilt

NY: Smart+ Crowder+ A Johnson+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19
Clippers: I Thomas+ J Brown+ Jerebko+ 1rnd pick Clippers 19
Boston: CP3+ Melo

C:Olynyk/ Zeller
PF: Horford/ Zeller
SF: Anthony/ Green
SG: Bradley/ Hunter
PG:CP3/ Rozier.

26 Oct 2016 01:28:53
Anthony is a ball-stopper who would not fit in in Boston on offense or defense. Wouldn't trade Crowder for him even up.

26 Oct 2016 12:21:25
OK Supercollider, take Crowder over Melo, and keep IT over Westbrook too, I mean, he is ball dominant too.

22 Oct 2016 15:08:50
Boston celtics transferred to crowder, johnson, jackson, Olynyk, + 1pick-bos2018 to Los Angeles clipers by Griffin and pierce, transferred to bradley, young, Jerebko, + 2pick-bos2017-18 + 1pick-men2019 to Utah Jazz by Gordon Hayward

Rotación de Boston 2017


21 Oct 2016 09:21:15

Trade: J Brown+ 1rnd pick Memp 19 and Clipp 19
receive: M Gasol+ V Carter
trade: LMA

receive: 1rnd pick Clippers 19
trade: Memphis pick 17

receive: J Brown+Olynyk+ a Johnson+ return first rnd pick 17 and 19
trade: M Gasol+ v Carter.

21 Oct 2016 12:49:55
Boston is not going to trade 3 rotation players plus two first-round draft picks for Aldridge, who is over 30 and has 10 years on his legs.

21 Oct 2016 23:51:02
So is Horford.

Boston receive an all star without giving up the Nets picks

J Bronw can be a bust
A Johnson is a free agent next year
They have to give olynyk a big contract next year
The Memphis pick is top 5 protected and the clippers pick totp 12 protected
So they give up nothing and receive an all star that's 31 years old

C: Horford
SF: Crowder
SG: Bradley
PG: I Thomas

This team could beat GS and draft two youn talented players next year.
This is a hell of a trade for Boston.

19 Oct 2016 20:04:28
Celtics will be Warriors biggest opponent in the next years.

Celtics get: Cousins
Kings get: Brown, Johnson and Olynyk +17&18 Nets Pick

Celtics get:Hayward
Jazz get: Bradley and Zeller + 18 Celtics Pick and 19 Grizzlies Pick

Celtics Team:

Thomas - Hayward - Crowder - Horford - Cousins

This Team is a Monster.

19 Oct 2016 22:22:15
The Celtics will be the Warriors biggest opponent in he next years IF they don't make these terrible deals you are proposing.

20 Oct 2016 01:43:26
I don't like the cousins trade. He is a head case that they don't need. But bringing in Hayward would make them a scary team.

18 Oct 2016 23:54:34
BOS get: Aldridge, Barton

Thomas/ rozier
Bradley/ smart
Barton/ Brown
Aldridge/ jerebko/ Mickey
Horford/ olynyk/ zeller

Denver get: Mills, Gerald Green,2nd round Boston

Bulls get:Danny Green, Crowrder, Brooklyn pick 2017,Spurs 1st 2017

Rondo/ MCW
Wade/ D. Green
Crowder/ McDermott
Gibson/ mirotic/ little
Lopez/ felicio

Spurs get: Butler, Amir johnson

Parker/ Murray
Butler/ Ginobili
Leonard/ simmons/ anderson
Amir Johnson/ Lee
Gasol/ Dedmond.

18 Oct 2016 11:43:24

BOS get Kenneth Faried, 2 DEN 2nd rd pick and Gordon Hayward

Pg Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier
Sg Hayward/ Green
Sf Crowder/ Brown
Pf Faried/ Olynyk
Ce Horford/ Zeller

UTA get BKN 1st 2018 and Wilson Chandler

Pg Hill/ Exum
Sg Hood/ Burks
Sf Chandler/ Johnson
Pf Favors/ Lyles
Ce Gobert/ Diaw

DEN get UTA 1st round pick 2017 (lottery protected) , Avery Bradley and Amir Johnson

Pg Mudiay/ Nelson
Sg Bradley/ Murray/ Harris
Sf Gallinari/ Barton
Pf Jokic/ Arthur
Ce Nurkic/ Johnson.

18 Oct 2016 13:20:57
I don't like this at all for Utah.

18 Oct 2016 07:18:01

CHI get Gordon Hayward and BKN 1st 2017

BOS get Jimmy Butler

UTA get Jae Crowder, Jordan Mickey and BOS 1st 2018

who says no?

Bulls get a very good fit alongside Wade and Rondo and a pick from BKN which would be very good. BOS get another star while UTA get a good return in case Hayward leaves. Maybe more going to CHI from BOS

Pg Rondo/ MCW
Sg Wade/ Valentine
Sf Hayward/ McDermott
Pf Mirotic/ Gibson
Ce Lopez/ Portis

Pg Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Green
Sf Butler/ Brown
Pf Horford/ Olynyk
Ce Johnson/ Zeller

Pg Hill/ Exum
Sg Hood/ Burks
Sf Crowder/ Johnson
Pf Favors/ Lyles/ Mickey
Ce Gobert/ Diaw.

18 Oct 2016 08:55:38

18 Oct 2016 08:55:38

18 Oct 2016 09:03:38
Utah says no. The celtics would do it and I think the bulls would although it's not great for them. They would have two veteran starting guards in the 30s and now a young small forward and future pick. If you want to win championships you have to commit to rebuilding or pushing for a finals spot.

18 Oct 2016 12:00:54
I like this for all teams

Hayward is a downgrade over Butler, but he's a better fit and the Brooklyn pick makes it a good trade for them
Utah receive a cheaper player and a future draft pick. This is a great return if Hayward wants out.
And Boston recieve the star they need.

18 Oct 2016 05:35:08
Boston sends - Jae Crowder, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, Jaylen Brown, Kelly Olynyk, James Young
Boston receives - Demarcus Cousins, Gordon Hayward
Sacramento sends - Demarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay, 2017 worst pick out of Philly/ Sac protected if Sacramento have to convey their pick to Chicago (if it is outside top 10). In that case Sacramento convey their 2020 1st round pick Utah.
Sacramento receives - Jae Crowder, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, Jaylen Brown, 2017 Brooklyn 1st pick swap, 2018 Brooklyn 1st
Utah sends - Gordon Hayward
Utah receives - Rudy Gay, Kelly Olynyk, 2017 worst pick out of Philly/ Sac protected if Sacramento have to convey their pick to Chicago (if it is outside top 10). In that case Sacramento convey their 2020 1st round pick Utah.
Denver sends - Will Barton
Denver receives - James Young, 2019 Los Angeles C 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st

This trade focuses on Boston getting better so I'm only going to do Boston's depth for now. Checked on NBA Trade Machine.
Boston -
PG Isaiah Thomas, Terry Rozier, Demetrius Jackson
SG Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, Gerald Green, RJ Hunter
SF Gordon Hayward, Will Barton, Abdel Nader
PF Al Horford, Jordan Mickey, Ben Bentil
C Demarcus Cousins, Tyler Zeller

Boston have a couple more 1st round picks and lots of seconds if anybody thinks one team is getting a rip off that they could easily add.

18 Oct 2016 15:53:29
Yeah there is no way that the Celtics are trading 5 rotation players as well as 4 1st round picks for those three players.

Hayward is an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season and plenty of teams will be on his pursuit.

Barton is nothing special at all and only looked special because Denver had no one to score for them.

Cousins, while he is the best center in the game he is still a head case and could potential destroy the team and what we have built.

19 Oct 2016 09:59:18
well i suppose boston could do this on the basis an extension is signed prior.

14 Oct 2016 12:00:35

Bost: J Wall+ D Cousins

Wash: I Thomas+ Jerebko+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 18+ 1rnd pick clippers 19

Sac: M Smart+ A Johnson+ 1rnd pick Nets 17 (swap) + 1rnd pick Memphis 19

C: D Cousins/ Olynyk
Pf: Horford/ Olynyk
SF: Crowder/ J Brown
SG: Bradley/ Hunter
PG: J Wall/ Rozier.

14 Oct 2016 13:19:14
Love it.

14 Oct 2016 15:02:31
If only it were that simple.

14 Oct 2016 06:05:06

Crowder, Jerebko, Hunter, Young and both brooklyn picks

Indiana: george

Thomas/ Rozier
Bradley/ Smart
George/ Brown
Johnson/ Olynyk
Horford/ Zeller

Makes boston that much better. I honestly think Crowder isn't good enough at his position to battle with Lebron Durant etc. Boston would be a lot closer with this line up. George takes the offense and defense to the next level.

This is assuming Indiana gets nowhere. I know all the pacer fans will say they loaded up this year but in all honesty, its a go big or bust year for them. Larry Bird knows this as well.

14 Oct 2016 09:10:49
i would have done this trada a few months ago.
But we're in a win now modus, so we want to keep P George.

14 Oct 2016 03:07:27
Celtics-Nuggets deal

Celtics acquire Kenneth Faried
* i feel he'll be a fine compliment to Al Horford

Nuggets acquire 2018 1st round pick (own) , 2nd round pick, RJ Hunter and Jonas Jerebko
* maybe other 1st round pick but not the Nets pick can be involve here, Faried is a nice player but i think Nuggets are moving him anytime soon

Celtics roster

I. Thomas-M. Smart-T. Rozier
A. Bradley-G. Green
J. Crowder-J. Brown
K. Faried-A. Johnson-J. Mickey
A. Horford-K. Olynyk-T. Zeller

Nuggets roster

E. Mudiay-J. Nelson
J. Murray-G. Harris-R. Hunter
W. Chandler-W. Barton
D. Gallinari-D. Arthur-J. Jerebko
N. Jokic-J. Nurkic.

14 Oct 2016 10:54:33
Love it, but the money doesn't work.

14 Oct 2016 11:56:42
I'm not a big fan of faried's game and would much rather versatility given by a Galo (would take more to get) or Chandler.

17 Oct 2016 16:41:44
Nuggs aren't looking to get younger, draft picks don't help them.

17 Oct 2016 16:43:38
Nuggs aren't moving him for draft picks.

12 Oct 2016 04:14:28
Raptors: Kelly Olynyk, RJ Hunter

Nuggets: Jakob Poeltl, Demetrius Jackson, 2018 Celtics and Clippers pick (via Celtics)

Celtics: Jusuf Nurkic.

12 Oct 2016 14:07:33
Raps shoul get a bit more.

12 Oct 2016 04:07:46
Raptors: Kelly Olynyk

Celtics: Jakob Poeltl.

12 Oct 2016 16:14:15
I think the Raptors should hold on to Jakob for a bit to see what they have. I like Kelly, but I don't think he's enticing enough to make this deal now.

11 Oct 2016 14:44:27

Boston: D Cousins+ J Butler

Philly: I Thomas

Sac: J Brown+ Smart+ a Johnson+ 1rnd pick LA+ return swap 17+ return 1rnd pick 19

Chi: R Gay+ 1rnd pick Nets 17 (swap) + 1rnd pick Nets 18

C: D Cousins/ Olynyk
PF:Horford/ Olynyk
SF: Crowder/ Green
SG: J Butler/ Hunter
PG: Bradley/ Rozier.

11 Oct 2016 16:12:34
Cmon dude. Sac and chi pass big time.

11 Oct 2016 16:29:13
This is more of a personal preference. I

think philly passes. It's too much to give up for Thomas.

We're talking maybe three high firsts for a guy who is under 5'10 and is ball dominate. We have Ben Simmons and he once healthy will be the ball dominate player on this team. So I'd rather have the firsts and use them to draft a sg and sf who can shoot to go with Embiid and Simmons.

11 Oct 2016 23:22:11
Philly is the only team that could pass
But it isn't that much, they give up

The LA pick could go top three this year, so they can only receive it in 2018. LA has a good young core, they can draft another great prospect and they can hit the free agent market next year, so that pick, could become a late lottery pick, or a late first rounder.
Philly could get a higher pick than sacramento, so they wouldn't swap next years pick.
In that case, they could receive an All star for a late first rounder and a late lottery pick. that's a gamble they could take.

Chicago receive two top picks and Gay is a cheap rental, they receive capspace next year.

Sacramento can rebuilt and has a future again.

12 Oct 2016 06:20:58
Why would bulls sign wade and rondo and then trade butler so they can rebuild?

11 Oct 2016 03:41:10
Knicks receive: Ben Mclemore

Kings receive: Justin Holiday, 2nd round pick.

11 Oct 2016 19:18:34
Ben has more value then that.

10 Oct 2016 02:12:50
Bucks- Knicks

mil trade: Monroe

New York trade: Jennings, 2nd round pick

there are still point guards out there that are avaliable to be signed for the minimum, Chalmers/ Cole/ Hinrich that the knicks could sign after this trade. it gives them depth down low in case Noah get injured (which he will) . the spacing wouldn't be a problem next to Porzingis as well

Bucks lack 3-point shooting, and Jennings would greatly help space the floor.

the trade seems lopsided, where the Knicks seem like they are getting more value. But if Monroe isn't a good fit with Milwaukee, then it isn't the biggest loss.

this is coming from a bucks fan and i would be happy with this trade.

10 Oct 2016 07:03:10
Knicks say no. Jennings could be their best bench player and the back up for an injury prone Rose.

10 Oct 2016 13:14:56
Monroe put up a per of 23. He's worth more then Jennings. And a 2 just doesn't make up the difference.

10 Oct 2016 18:04:57
Monroe put up a PER of 21.8 last year, not 23.

And yet, while on the pistons, his team never won over 30 games. In fact, the year he left, the pistons had a 12 game improvement and finally made the playoffs.

How did the team he moved to progress? Got 8 games worse and missed the playoffs.

Throwing out a PER or a statistic here or there is worthless. The knicks don't want to trade for monroe for a few reasons.

1) he is a career loser. Everywhere he goes, his team gets worse.

2) They need a serviceable backup pg given Rose's injury history. Besides Jennings, all they have is Chassen who has never played a minute in the NBA

3) They likely have 5-6 big men making the roster. No need for a backup big man who plays no defense.

AKA, knicks say absolutely no because of lack of interest.

10 Oct 2016 19:16:50

Truth is Knicks are desperate. They need talent and fast.

Monroe and prozingis gives them something especially when Carmelo drops off which from watching him it already has happened. Either that or he presses too much given the lack of talent on that team. If I were the knick I would make this trade for credibility at the very least since this is the path they've chosen.

Rose Carmelo prozingus and Monroe is closer if nothing else.

11 Oct 2016 02:28:52
Personally, I think both the Bucks should not make this move based on the quality of the return, and the Knicks should pass as Zinger's best position will ultimately be Center.

07 Oct 2016 21:39:39
Pipe dream

Boston gives up johnson, smart, crowder and both nets picks along with boston 2018 pick, Memphis 2019 pick

SAS gives up Aldridge and Mills

Thomas/ Mills
Bradley/ rozier
Brown/ green
Aldridge/ olynyk
Horford/ zeller

This team beats Cleveland and gives GSW a run for the title. Who says no and why?

07 Oct 2016 21:44:01
Celtics say no, easily, bc Aldridge is grossly overrated and not worth all that package.

07 Oct 2016 23:51:05
That's disgustingly bad for the celtics,

08 Oct 2016 14:34:39
Drop the Nets picks and Boston would do this trade.

08 Oct 2016 15:30:39
Not a chance. Aldridge is a nice player, but has close to 800 games on his legs.

13 Oct 2016 05:45:22
Aldridge equals nba finals my friend. Think back to another power forward who came in the latter part of his career and helped boston win a title. I'll give you a hint, it's in my name ;)

07 Oct 2016 18:26:53

BOS- Klay Thompson

GSW- Avery Bradley, Kelly Olynyk, 18 Bos 1st, 19 Mem 1st.

07 Oct 2016 20:25:22
Don't understand why GS would do this trade. At their current state they aren't focused on acquiring draft picks especially future ones. The drop-off from Thompson to Bradley is far greater than what Olynyk would add to GS.

07 Oct 2016 20:38:08
GS might consider it if Boston threw both nets picks out there, but GS won't trade their current stars for future assets without robbing another team. They're the best roster in the NBA, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, why break that up?

07 Oct 2016 23:52:26
Bradley, Johnson and 17 nets pick for Thompson.

07 Oct 2016 16:31:21
Phoenix gives up Tyson chandler
Boston gives up hunter, johnson, young and boston 2018 1st pick

Thomas/ rozier
Bradley/ smart
Crowder/ brown/ green
Horford/ olynyk
Chandler/ zeller

Who says no and why?

07 Oct 2016 17:32:26
Celtics say no cause they want cap flexibility, and Amir Johnson is arguably just as good as Tyson Chandler. Also why would they give up a 2018 first for a 30+ year old center who is overpaid.

07 Oct 2016 18:30:43
I could see it but I don't think Boston needs to give up a first. Phx should be happy they are getting chandlers contract off their hands with Exp contacts after the whole LMA signing didn't work.

07 Oct 2016 18:45:05
Celtics say no bc Tyson Chandler isn't good anymore

07 Oct 2016 18:53:09
On second thought, I agree that the pick is not needed. This trade is worth it though because we need a defensive center. Trading Johnson for Chandler might not move the needle on offense but defensively, that's the only thing that has been successful in stopping Lebron historically i. e. Dallas mavs, i. e KG defensive stops when boston and miami faced off i. e hibbert when indiana went up 2-1 against miami before they lost granger. Low risk trade.

07 Oct 2016 19:49:58
Boston laughs you off the phone. Come on chandler was one of the worst signing last year. He's got nothing left.

07 Oct 2016 20:41:11
This is overpaying for Chandler but I understand the logic. Boston could use a defensive center who can control the paint but I'm not sure Chandler is the guy. He is 34 yrs old a shell of himself and signed for 3 more years (the numbers don't look so bad after this past offseason but still not favorable) . I think there are better players the Celtics could target like Kosta Koufos who will have similar value and more upside.

04 Oct 2016 17:09:45
Boston: K Thompson+ WCS Stein
Golden state: Bradley+ D Cousins+ D Jackson
Sac: Smart+ A Johnson+ Livingston+ 1 nr pick Nets 17 and 18+1rnd pick Memphis19

C: WCStein/ Olynyk
PF: Horford/ Olynyk
Sf: Crowder/ J Brown
Sg: K Thompson/ Hunter
PG: I Thomas/ Rozier

Golden state
C: Cousins/ Pachulia
PF: D Green/ D West
SF: K Durant/ Iguodala
SG: Bradley/ Iguodala
PG:S Curry/ Bradley/ D Jackson.

04 Oct 2016 18:57:46
GS won't break up its core, especially not to move two unselfish players for a head case.

04 Oct 2016 19:33:11
propably not, but the idea is correct.

Bradley and Thompson are both great defenders
Bradley isn't Thompson, but he's still a good 3-point shooter.
He's on a cheaper contract and he's used to be the third or fourth scoring option.

GS gets an upgrade on the center possition. D Cousins is a top two center. He's good in offence and defence. The combo Cousins/ D Green will be effective in stopping LBJ.

04 Oct 2016 19:59:49
WCS would be a better fit in Golden State then Cousins.

05 Oct 2016 05:37:54
I think objectively I rather have Bradley and Cousins than just Thompson but given Warriors irregular circumstances and immense talent I don't think they should break up that core especially to add a gut like Cousins who I think introduces too much risk for a team as good as the Warriors to take on. They are already favorites they don't need to add that uncertainty. I could see a team like Celtics taking a chance on Cousins hoping it all works out and he brings them to a new level. I like the WCS pickup for them however.

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