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23 Sep 2021 15:35:30
Clippers get John Wall

Rockets get Eric Bledsoe, Marcus Morris, and Keon Johnson

Hard to make this trade work financially, the Clippers would have to give up either Morris or Kennard. I assumed they'd rather give up Morris. Thoughts?

23 Sep 2021 16:37:14
I actually think that they would rather give up Kennard with Kawhi out for a majority if not the entire season.

23 Sep 2021 17:15:03
@Fredman if the Clips wanted to include Kennard instead of Morris, then they’d also have to trade either Batum or Winslow to make it work financially. Depth was another factor in this for me.

23 Sep 2021 01:37:02
Magic/Boston/Rockets/Mavericks Mid Season or Trade Deadline

Magic get Al Horford Josh Green Jabari Parker 2023 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks Rockets 2023 second round pick.via Blazers from Boston

Rockets get Dwight Powell Gary Harris Grant Williams Trey Burke

Mavericks get Terrance Ross Dennis Schroder

Boston get John Wall Robin Lopez

Second Trade

Magic get 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Clippers get Jabari Parker

Magic receive Al Horford Josh Green 2023 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks from Rockets 2023 second round pick.via Blazers from Boston 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers 7

Magic lost Terrance Ross Gary Harris Robin Lopez

Rockets receive Dwight Powell Gary Harris Grant Williams Trey Burke

Rockets lost John Wall 2022 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks

Mavericks receive Terrance Ross Dennis Schroder

Mavericks lost Dwight Powell Josh Green Trey Burke

Boston receive John Wall Robin Lopez

Boston lost Al Horford Jabari Parker Grant Williams Dennis Schroder 2023 second round pick.via Blazers

Clippers receive Jabari Parker

Clippers lost 2025 second round pick.via Pistons

22 Sep 2021 16:07:27
76ers gets John Wall, Kevin Porter Jr., and the Rockets' unprotected 2022 first round pick

Rockets gets Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey, and Isaiah Joe

Seems like the most fair Simmons-to-Houston trade to me. Giving up KPJ and the first rounder is costly, but I think it's worth it to unload Wall's contract while also adding a young star and a nice young talent.

22 Sep 2021 18:37:43
It is essentially Porter Jr. for Simmons as Houston has to give up a first just to get rid of Wall to anyone. Its a no from me.

22 Sep 2021 19:25:00
Houston already said they're not giving up a first to move Wall.

22 Sep 2021 20:47:54
Actually Houston said that they would not give up MULTIPLE first rounders. I think the will give up one of the Nets firsts to move Wall. Definitely not Houston's unprotected first.

22 Sep 2021 22:40:07
the exact quote that was said was by Houston GM was "we have to win the John Wall trade"

23 Sep 2021 05:13:36
This isn’t just unloading Wall though, it’s unloading Wall and getting a young all-star in the process. Kind of thought that was self-explanatory.

22 Sep 2021 04:33:51
Clippers get:
- John Wall
- Daniel House Jr.
- 2024 Rockets first round pick via Nets (unprotected)
- 2025 Rockets first round pick (top 10 protected)

Rockets get:
- Marcus Morris Sr.
- Luke Kennard
- Eric Bledsoe

PG Wall / Jackson / Preston
SG George / K. Johnson / Boston Jr.
SF Leonard / Mann / Winslow
PF Batum / House / Hartenstein
C Zubac / Ibaka / Giles

PG Porter Jr. / Bledsoe / Augustin
SG Green / Gordon / Nwaba
SF Tate / Kennard / Christopher
PF Martin Jr. / Morris Sr. / Garuba
C Wood / Theis / Sengun

22 Sep 2021 13:29:02
Rockets have already said that they are not attaching multiple picks to John Wall's contract.

22 Sep 2021 22:46:20
Houston is at most going to offer 1 young player (not named Green, Wood, Sengun or K-Mart Jr) and 1 first rounder along with Wall for at least 1 good young player and 1 or 2 expiring contracts who can help them this season in return.

23 Sep 2021 01:27:59
This is actually atrocious. Those three guys are signed for longer than Wall. You have them giving up two quality firsts just to get longer contracts?

22 Sep 2021 04:11:43
Magic get:
- John Wall
- 2023 Rockets first round pick (top 10 protected)
- 2025 Rockets first round pick via Nets (unprotected)

Rockets get:
- Gary Harris (1 year, $20M)
- Markelle Fultz (3 years, $50M; injured)

Rockets get rid of Wall and get Fultz who's recovering from an ACL injury, but can afford to wait on. Magic capitalize from being on a rebuild and acquire future draft assets for taking on Wall's contract.

22 Sep 2021 05:16:07
Magic say no I rather have Markelle Fultz and Gary Harris over John Wall so send him to Boston or LA Clippers.

21 Sep 2021 14:03:20

LAC get John Wall

Pg Wall
Sg Jackson
Sf George
Pf Batum
Ce Zubac

HOU get Ben Simmons & Luke Kennard

Pg Porter/Augustin/Nwaba
Sg Green/Gordon/Christopher
Sf Kennard/House
Pf Simmons/Tate
Ce Wood/Sengun

PHI get Eric Bledsoe, Marcus Morris, Usman Garuba & 2 1st round picks via HOU + 2 2nd round picks via HOU

Pg Bledsoe/Milton/Maxey
Sg Curry/Green/Korkmaz
Sf Harris/Niang
Pf Morris/Thybulle/Garuba
Ce Embiid/Drummond

21 Sep 2021 15:52:55
Thats not enough for Simmons. His values droppen. But they still can get a better offer for him.

21 Sep 2021 16:49:11
That’s ugly for Philly.

21 Sep 2021 03:18:19
Ben Simmons 4-Teamer

Timberwolves receive:
- Ben Simmons (All-NBA Defensive 1st)
- Kevin Love (2 years, $60M remaining)

76ers receive:
- Collin Sexton (24 PPG, RFA in 2022)
- Malik Beasley (20 PPG, 40% 3P)
- Naz Reid (11 PPG, 5 RPG, 52% FG)
- 2025 Timberwolves first round pick (top 10 protected)
- 2027 Timberwolves first round pick (lottery-protected)

Cavaliers receive:
- Pat Beverley (expiring; would buyout)
- Josh Okogie (expiring)
- Jake Layman (expiring)
- 2023 Timberwolves first round pick (top 5 protected)

Thunder receive:
- Taurean Prince (expiring)
- 2022 Cavaliers second round pick via Rockets
- 2022 Timberwolves second round pick

Timberwolves Post-Trade
PG D'Angelo Russell / Jordan McLaughlin
SG Anthony Edwards / Jaylen Nowell
SF Ben Simmons / Leandro Bolmaro
PF Kevin Love / Jaden McDaniels
C Karl-Anthony Towns / Jarred Vanderbilt

76ers Post-Trade
PG Collin Sexton / Tyrese Maxey
SG Malik Beasley / Seth Curry
SF Danny Green / Matisse Thybulle
PF Tobias Harris / Georges Niang
C Joel Embiid / Naz Reid

21 Sep 2021 12:14:49
Wolves are giving up too much if they also have to take on Kevin Love's contract.

21 Sep 2021 15:42:43
6 players 3 firsts and a second for Simmons and love seems like a lot to take on two bad deals with injury prone players.

19 Sep 2021 23:56:16
Rockets get: Killian Hayes, Pistons' '24 or'25 1st, Sixers' '23 1st

Pistons get: Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey

Sixers get: John Wall, Jerami Grant

20 Sep 2021 01:18:06
Horrible for Philly.

20 Sep 2021 01:54:27
how is it horrible for Philly?

20 Sep 2021 02:46:31
That package is barely decent for Simmons alone. Wall contract is worst in league.

20 Sep 2021 04:16:57
well then Detroit can add a 1st rounder and Houston can add someone like House. would that balance it more?

20 Sep 2021 06:42:21
No lol. No way rockets get Hayes and 2 1sts for Wall lol. House doesn’t do much to that either.

20 Sep 2021 12:08:00
Salaries work? Philly taking on $64 mil in salary while sending out $35.6 mil.

20 Sep 2021 14:55:17
Because you undervalued the cost of moving Wall. Simmons value dropped but not that badly.

20 Sep 2021 21:38:06
how about this

Pistons get: Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey

Sixers get: Jerami Grant, John Wall, Eric Gordon, future Rockets 1st, Pistons 2nd rd pk

Rockets get: Killian Hayes, Rodney McGruder, future Pistons 1st.

19 Sep 2021 13:02:40

Rockets = T.Mann; J.Hayes; K.Lewis; D.Louzada

Pels = D.Theis; L.Kennard; M.Muscala

Clippers = E.Gordon

Thunder = E.Bledsoe

(Pics to balance out wherever)

19 Sep 2021 19:33:13
So Terence Mann+Kennard+Bledsoe for Gordon? Nah.

19 Sep 2021 20:06:47
Only good for Rockets.

20 Sep 2021 01:19:04
You’re giving up on Lewis way too early.

19 Sep 2021 12:01:19

Sixers trading Simmons and Maxey
Rockets trading Wall and House
TWolves trading Beasley, Prince and McDaniels

TWOLVES receives Ben Simmons and House plus Scott/Clark from Philly via sign and trade to match the salary

Sixers receives John Wall, McDaniels, 3 1st rd picks (1 from Rockets via BKN pick, 2 from Twolves)

Rockets receives Beasley, Prince and Maxey

*Simmons joining Towns, Edwards and Russell. Sixers get multiple 1st picks, Star/Starter Quality PG and a young prospect. Rockets saves 10M+ and giving up one late 1st pick won't hurt much.

19 Sep 2021 12:58:37
Simmons isn't going to do much on TWOLVES.

19 Sep 2021 22:41:53
Rockets need to give more.

19 Sep 2021 03:29:38

Magic get Ty Jerome 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Rockets get Gary Harris 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Thunder get Eric Bledsoe(buyout) 2022 second round pick.via Clippers

Clippers get Eric Gordon

Magic got young player +future second round pick which is very valuable plus save salary cap space relief

Clippers got pure scorer for bench

Rockets got solid player who are expiring contract + second round pick

Thunder got solid player but they going to buyout his contract + second round pick

19 Sep 2021 08:20:17
So okc spends how much for that second?

19 Sep 2021 09:46:50
Exactly, Shiller. OKC can probably get a late first at the trade deadline for the cap space needed to take on Harris. Why would they settle for a mid-second?

19 Sep 2021 10:01:18
Thunder are not taking Harris they’re taking Bledsoe if they want to keep Bledsoe it’s up to them but Magic wouldn’t give up any first round picks to unload Harris contract which is expiring they can only give up one or two second round picks that it

Instead of Magic trading Harris they will waive Harris let him go anywhere if teams ask for any first round picks to take him dude he is expiring.

19 Sep 2021 13:47:44
You are looking at it SOLOLY from the Magic perspective. From OKC POV, previous trades have shown that they can get better draft capital than a mid-second. OKC's GM understands this.

19 Sep 2021 00:52:26
Three Team Blockbuster

Mavericks get: Ben Simmons, Eric Gordon, Shake Milton, Isaiah Joe

Rockets get: Kristaps Porzingis, Dwight Powell, Trey Burke

Sixers get: John Wall, 23' Rockets first round pick via Bucks (unprotected), 24' Rockets first round pick via Nets (unprotected), 25' Mavericks first round pick (top 5 protected), 25' Mavericks second round pick, 25' Rockets second round pick

PG Luka Doncic / Jalen Brunson
SG Tim Hardaway Jr. / Shake Milton
SF Reggie Bullock / Eric Gordon
PF Ben Simmons / Dorian Finney-Smith
C Maxi Kleber / Willie Cauley-Stein

PG Kevin Porter Jr. / D.J. Augustin
SG Jalen Green / David Nwaba
SF Jae'Sean Tate / Daniel House
PF Kristaps Porzingis / Kenyon Martin Jr.
C Christian Wood / Daniel Theis

PG John Wall / Tyrese Maxey
SG Seth Curry / Matisse Thybulle
SF Danny Green / Furkan Korkmaz
PF Tobias Harris / Georges Niang
C Joel Embiid / Andre Drummond

19 Sep 2021 09:48:55
Doubt Houston is interested in Porzingis the way that Sengun played in the Summer League.

18 Sep 2021 12:56:00

76er's = J. Wall; T. Satoransky
2-'22 2nd Rd (Pels-via Sac/Jazz); '24 1st rd (Pels - LAL); '25 1st rd (Pels - Bucks)

Rockets = K. Lewis; J. Hayes; J. Hart; D. Louza; '28 1st rd (Clippers)

Clippers = E. Gordon; J. Valancious (move Bledsoe to Thunder who need to add salary for '21-22)

Pels = B.Simmons; G. Niang; M.Muscala; D. Theis; L. Kennard

Thunder = Bledsoe; 2- 2nd rd (Pels - '24 Bulls/'26 TB)

18 Sep 2021 13:51:33
Big overpay.

18 Sep 2021 20:23:57
Just to be clear. That 2022 second owed to the Pelicans from Sacramento is 31-54 protected. So it's not really a pick since we know the Kings are not going to be a top 5 team next year. That pick has no real value.

17 Sep 2021 22:10:15
Rockets/Clippers/Cavaliers/Boston Mid Season Trades around October-November

Boston get John Wall 2023 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks from Rockets

Clippers get Ricky Rubio Eric Gordon

Cavaliers get Eric Bledsoe

Rockets get Al Horford Luke Kennard Grant Williams Kris Dunn Jabari Parker

18 Sep 2021 01:32:21
I mean the value isn't that bad but I'd rather have Rubio over Bledsoe. Rubio can play alongside our other guards, Sexton and Garland.

18 Sep 2021 13:24:17
Dunn is on the Grizzlies.

18 Sep 2021 18:23:09
Houston wouldn't want Al Horford.

17 Sep 2021 20:33:56
Another try from a Pels fan!!


76er's = J. Wall, D. House, C. Sexton
2 '22 2nd Rd (Pels - via Jazz & Cavs), '23 1st Rd (Pels/LAL), '24 1st Rd (Pels -via LAL), '25 1st Rd (Pels -via Bucks)

Rockets = J. Hayes, J. Hart, T. Satoransky, D. Louza; K. Love

Pels = B. Simmons, S. Curry, D. Theis

Cavs = K. Lewis; W. Gabriel

*Love saves Rockets about 30mil and they don't give up draft assests to move off of Wall's contract; 2+ good young players to add to rebuild

*76er's get Wall without giving up any young players while replacing Curry with Sexton; plus 5 decent pics

*Cavs unload Love without giving up any draft pics and replace Sexton with Lewis

*Pels get much stronger defensively with Simmons and floor spacing with Curry and Theis will be a very solid veteran on a good contract in place of Hayes

18 Sep 2021 00:05:44
Curry is a better fit than sexton. And is also doc rivers son in law.

18 Sep 2021 01:18:01
I liked your first offer a bit better but both are better than…. I’ll leave it at that.

18 Sep 2021 18:50:52
Just put this trade in Fanspo and it doesn't work. Josh can't be trade to March. Satoransky can't be trade until October. Philadelphia unable complete this trade cause there a taxpaying team. Cavs might need to send Pels some picks or cash.

17 Sep 2021 15:04:45
bulls: Eric Gordon, Daniel House (tpe)

houston: derrick jones jr , troy brown jr, portland first round pick.

bulls get two tested veterans. the pick is lottery protected until 2028. so they won't give too much.

houston get a pick and some salary relief.

17 Sep 2021 18:28:59
yeah, a little too much salary relief. the bulls are over the cap and can't take on that much. drop house out and it works salary wise. but wasn't DJJ just traded to the Bulls from Portland. in that case the trade has to wait until 60 days after acquiring the player before they can package him with another.

17 Sep 2021 18:54:29
I like it.

16 Sep 2021 22:08:21

Boston get Danuel House Jr Isaiah Roby

Magic get Romeo Langford

Rockets get Michael Carter Williams 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Thunder get Gary Harris Bruno Fernando 2023 second round pick.via Blazers from Boston

17 Sep 2021 04:16:14
Thunder get more than mid second for the salary dump by Orlando.

16 Sep 2021 09:53:01

76er's = J. Wall, D. House,
'23 1st Rd (Hou); 2 '22 2nd Rd (Pels - via Jazz & Cavs), '23 1st Rd (Pels/LAL), '24 1st Rd (Pels -via LAL), '25 1st Rd (Pels -via Bucks)

Rockets = K. Lewis, J. Hayes, J. Hart, T. Satoransky, D. Louza

Pels = B. Simmons, S. Curry, D. Theis

16 Sep 2021 10:21:53
Philly might accept if they can keep curry.

16 Sep 2021 10:48:38
I agree but I thought Curry would be a huge upgrade for the Pels so maybe they can move Satoransky to the 76er's instead of the Rockets?

16 Sep 2021 12:37:58
To give up that many 1sts Curry definitely has to stay in deal.

16 Sep 2021 13:00:41
That's what I was thinking. Plus the 76er's get to keep all of their young players and the Rockets get a great return for a player they're not planning to use anymore. Simmons is really tough to trade fairly right now based on his contract and recent play. It seems like a really good deal for all 3 teams. But that's just my opinion - I'm a diehard Pels fan!

16 Sep 2021 15:05:03
DAC, then chill on the picks.

16 Sep 2021 15:41:43
Either way.

16 Sep 2021 04:15:42

Magic get Al Horford(buyout) 2022 first round pick(Top 8 protected).via Boston 2024 first round pick(unprotected).via Nets from Rockets

Rockets get Gary Harris Romeo Langford Grant Williams

Boston get John Wall

Magic release Michael Carter Williams

Al Horford will get buyout from Magic let him go to any teams

16 Sep 2021 04:48:52
Why so many trades today.

16 Sep 2021 11:10:54
I don't see Boston giving up a 1st in this scenario.

15 Sep 2021 23:32:11

Rockets get Gary Harris Markelle Fultz 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic 2022 second round pick.via Magic

Magic get John Wall 2022 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks Rockets 2024 first round pick(unprotected).via Nets from Rockets

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