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21 Apr 2021 12:48:16
I know I'm in the minority, but I believe it's possible Clips are one and done in the playoffs. I don't trust George. Their supporting cast isn't amazing. They just scream pretender to me despite a good season from Kawhi.

If they do lose in the first round, I can see Kawhi opting to bounce and go to an eastern conference team in free agency. I am thinking Knicks. If that happens, Clips should trade PG.

Clippers get Turner, Lavert, 2 firsts

Pacers get George

21 Apr 2021 13:41:10
I won't dispute the logic you begin with. I think they could end up with a pretty tough matchup in the first round if they end up in 3rd or 4th seed (Lakers anyone? )
But the Pacers would be incredibly stupid to give up those assets for a guy who dumped them before. A year later they'd be taking less back to get rid of him when he demands a trade.

21 Apr 2021 15:51:11
I would take out the firsts.

21 Apr 2021 17:26:39
its really a reach, but.

I keep seeing PG13 on the Warriors (Wiggins + Minny pick + extras) .

Steph/ Klay/ PG13/ Draymond/ Wiseman.

21 Apr 2021 17:50:46
I think the idea is solid but I agree w NBA that the two firsts is too much.

21 Apr 2021 17:52:21
I take PG13 back for that offer and i think that's the best the clippers ca.

21 Apr 2021 22:04:47
I believe it would be a great deal for the Pacers. PG has Sabonis and Brogdon next to him which can be a real good big 3 especially in the East not to mention still have Warren Lamb and both Holidays. They could be a sneaky contender with that deal.

22 Apr 2021 03:10:50
I hope Kawhi has enough loyalty to at least stay one more year. Kinda rubbishty to just destroy a franchise without at least putting in the full contract length.

18 Apr 2021 00:06:39
Sac:Ingram+Adams

NO:M turner+Barrett+H Barnes

Knicks: Fox

Indy: Siakam

Tor:1rnd pick knicks 2021+ 1rnd pick Dall 2021+ 1rnd pick Dall 2023+ 1rnd pick Indy 2023

Sac:
C:Adams
PF:Bagley
Sf:Ingram
SG:Hield
Pg:Haliburton

NO:
C:Turner
Pf:Zion
SF:H Barnes
SG:Barrett
Pg:Ball

Knicks
C:robinson
PF:Randle
SF:Derozan (sign in free agency)
SG:Quickley
Pg:Fox

Pacers:
C:Sabonis
Pf:Siakam
SfWarren
SG:LeVert
Pg:Brogdon

18 Apr 2021 04:29:38
What a freakin joke. All the kings get back is Ingram and Adams?

18 Apr 2021 05:06:14
Ingram and adams is better then fox and barnes.

18 Apr 2021 11:20:11
Ingram and Fox may be equal, in my mind. So the difference would be Adams and Barnes. So the balance of the deal depends on who you like better.

18 Apr 2021 12:18:22
NO can keep Adams. Kings will take Turner instead.

18 Apr 2021 12:36:56
knicks would be dumb to trade Barrett. They have enough picks and young players to get Fox directly from Sacremento without having to include Barrett.

18 Apr 2021 12:47:43
Tempting offer for Siakam.

18 Apr 2021 13:48:32
it would be tempting if toronto waa rebuilding, but i don't believe that is in the plans. if the raptors trade Siakam in the next year it would only be as part of the package for a better (ie true top 10) player.

18 Apr 2021 14:11:28
Just cut the Pels out. It’s horrible for them. Gasupo must have Pel hate issues with his latest let’s-steal-Ingram posts

18 Apr 2021 14:27:25
Ingram gets the edge on fox because there too many good points guards but there not a lot of good sf. That’s why fox can’t make an all star team.

18 Apr 2021 14:50:10
You think the kings get Ingram and turner for fox and Barnes add like 3 first round picks. like I value the Lakers but I never post one side trades where Lakers ain’t giving up enough. Like when I wanted Lakers getting Davis I said give up everything but kuz. And look what happened the Lakers actually over paid for Davis.

14 Apr 2021 13:17:28
Grizzlies - Sabonis

Kings - Valanciunas

Pacers - Wright Bagley Clarke and 1st from Grizzlies (via Utah)

Morant
Brooke
Anderson
Jackson
Sabonis

Fox
Haliburton
Hield
Barnes
Valanciunas

Brogdon
Levert
Warren/Clarke
Bagley
Turner

14 Apr 2021 18:21:58
Pacers need WAY more on this for Sabonis.

14 Apr 2021 23:11:21
Valanciunas in a wheel chair will still defend better than Bagley 1st from Kings to Pacers. Instead of pick I ask for clark and JJJ.

15 Apr 2021 12:59:00
Valanciunas is pretty underrated and on a great deal imo so I think grizzlies would be hesitant to give him up. They’ve got a good squad coming up and just need to be patient.
I also think Pacers rather give up Turner than Sabonis.
I could see a Turner for Whiteside and Hield or somethin.

15 Apr 2021 17:53:30
Pacers don't need 5 SG. they need more pf and centers to balance the lineup if they trade sabonis or turner.

13 Apr 2021 15:30:51
Pacers

Wiseman/Andrew Wiggins (Dallas 1x 1st)

Warriors

Porzingis

Dallas

Bradley Neal
Domantas sabonis

Wizards

Myles Turner
Dwight Powell (2x1st & 2x 1st swaps)

13 Apr 2021 16:11:42
Another alias.

13 Apr 2021 16:40:01
That's bad.

13 Apr 2021 16:52:29
so Turner and Sabonis for Wiseman, Wiggins and a very distant 1st?

Yea, Indy passes with a chuckle.

Also, Porzingis, Powell and a very distant first does not get Dallas Sabonis AND Beal. Dallas would be lucky if Porzingis and a first got them Sabonis OR Beal.

also really curious to know which team is giving Washington the picks and swaps as well because none make any real sense.

13 Apr 2021 20:02:04
Well I'm not a GM. just an opinion.

I think beal would be worth about 3x 1st and maybe 2x 1st swaps

Sabonis is not better than porzingis. he is a better rebounder and playmaker. but his stats in closing out games is bad. considering porzingis has not played 4th quarter of some games and has better stats in last 5 min of games it says alot

Turner and sabonis are a liability in the last 5 min of games. there's a reason Pacers want to get something in return for them. same as dallas for porzingis.

Beal ts% is actually terrible when he shoots less than 18 shots a game. it's league average when he shoots 18 or more.

No one is getting LeBron or Kd or harden here. teams need to stop over valuing their players and determine whether a certain player makes them contenders or not, if not rebuild and go again.

And drafts are all about scouting networks. there's a reason why many No1 picks are bust and many amazing players who are all stars in the 7-12 range.

13 Apr 2021 21:30:29
Ring around the Lakerville.

13 Apr 2021 22:59:40
Sabonis IS better than Porzingis because Sabonis does not miss games be being injured. Stop looking at their "per game" averages and look at their total stats. Also, Sabonis contract is way better than Porzingis (around $11 mil a year less) . Which means that teams still have cap to sign other players.

09 Apr 2021 10:55:42
SPURS - PACERS

SAS- sabonis
IND- poeltl/ vassell/ samanic/ 2021 1st rd pick top 10 protected.

09 Apr 2021 13:24:25
samanic and poeltl are the only bigs (starting? ) that San Antonio has under contract for next year. They have cap space, just don't know who they are getting to pair with Sabonis in the starting lineup.

09 Apr 2021 16:40:41
drop the protection and i take that deal.

10 Apr 2021 01:20:23
Gas-powered, be patient

Brogdon/ Holiday
Lavert/ Lamb
Warren/ Holiday
Sabonis/ Draft
Turner/ Bitadze

is a set team need time to gel and get healthy. They will be top 4 seed. Only a healthy Nets team is better. But health Pacers team as good as bucks or Sixers.

10 Apr 2021 02:50:49
This seems light for the Pacers.

10 Apr 2021 18:12:57
The pick would have to minimum top 7.

06 Apr 2021 04:00:56
Knicks get Turner Lavert Winslow-released
Pacers get Randle Knox Toppin
Grizzlies get Lamb

DeRozan 4yr 110mil

This team is a top 4 seed

Brogdon/Holiday/McClung-60
DeRozan/Holiday/Stanley
Warren/Toppin/Martin
Randle/K.Jones-12/Knox
Sabonis/Bitadze/Garza-56

How do u replace Randle production?

J.Collin 4yr 140mil Hawks won't match
Z.Collin 4yr 60mil neither will Blazers
Burks Rose and Bullock 3yr 21 mil

Knicks trade both 16 and 20 for Davion Mitchell-

Starters all under 25

D.Mitchell-16/Rose/Quickley
Lavert/Burks/Clarke-46
Barrett/Bullock/Todd-32
J.Collins/Z.Collins/Pelle
Turner/Robinson/Noah

06 Apr 2021 16:25:01
Not sure Collins for that price is smart.

06 Apr 2021 20:43:05
Collins turned down 90 mil, rumors have it he doesn't want to be there. 130 mil might have to be the magic #, +/ - 10 mil.

07 Apr 2021 09:52:09
I think we could get the two Dallas picks if we trade Lavert and turner for Randle/ toppin and Knox.

07 Apr 2021 15:34:26
Randle is better than Lavert and Turner.

07 Apr 2021 20:35:19
I’d take Alavert over Randle but I like the idea overall

08 Apr 2021 03:37:26
So of course, Shizzee's numbers are off. Collins can only sign for 25% max of salary cap within his first year and a 5% raises over the next 3 years so

Year 1: $28.6
Year 2: $30.0
Year 3: $31.5
Year 4: $33.1

Total 4yr/ $123.2 mil is the Max that John Collins can sign with another team.

Of course, Atlanta can sign him for more (25% max with 8% raises) to include a 5th year.

05 Apr 2021 01:16:48
Off-season Trade - Boston & Indiana

Celtics get: Sabonis, Lamb & pacers 1st
Pacers get: Jaylen Brown

Thoughts?

05 Apr 2021 19:47:41
Boston believes they have their center already and this would leave a big hole with Brown leaving. On the other hand, Sabonis is Indy's best player and probably the last guy they should trade. I mentioned a Brown/ Sabonis swap a couple of years back but things have changed.

05 Apr 2021 19:58:04
I doubt Indy really wants to let Sabonis go, even if it is for Brown. Same goes for Boston on Brown.

06 Apr 2021 00:41:28
Walker
Smart
Tatum
Sabonis
Williams
that's a better fit then tatum and brown playing out position.

06 Apr 2021 08:55:00
Yeah maybe, but if Brown is being traded, it'll be in a package for Beal, or another player like that. Sabonis isn't the guy.

06 Apr 2021 22:46:58
I say brown the overall better player but when u have Tatum and no big man that's when fit is better then equal value.

07 Apr 2021 09:53:09
I take Brown for Sabonis.

03 Apr 2021 12:18:20
Magic/Raptors/Pacers Orlando Magic NBA Draft & Off-Season

Magic get Aron Bayne Jeremy Lamb 2022 first round pick(Top 10 protected).via Raptors 2021 second round pick.via Jazz from Pacers 2024 second round pick.via Cleveland or Jazz (less favorable) from Pacers

Raptors get Mo Bamba

Pacers get Terrance Ross

03 Apr 2021 14:43:17
nobody is giving you a first round pick for Mo Bamba.

04 Apr 2021 02:01:47
Bamba for Knox.

02 Apr 2021 01:45:48
Knicks did make any moves to build around Randle. Randle in final year is going to great trade value next yr. Wizards need to start building around Beal and None of draft picks is planning out. Bulls need a 3rd piece to go with Lavine and Vucevic. Pacers lack PF hurt them this yr

Wizards get Randle
Knicks get Turner Young Lamb Holiday brothers 1st, 60th
Bulls get Westbrook
Pacers get Bertans Toppin Aminu Satoransky



The 2 UCLA stars were once compared to 1 another now play together

Westbrook/Arcidiacono/Dotson
Lavine/White/Valentine
Z.Williams-12/Brown/Temple
P.Williams/Markennan/Felicio
Vucevic/Theiss/Sharpe-42

Wizards dumping a lot of salary will allow them to ad a 3rd allstar to go with Randle Beal around their young team.

Lowry/Rose/Winston
Beal/Mathews/Robinson
Hachimura/Adjiva/Hutchinson
Randle/Gafford/Bryant
Holmes/Bryant/Len


Pacers finally have more forward and better balance
Brogdon/J.Butler-32/Sumner
Lavert/Satoransky/Stanley
Warren/Z.Williams-14/Martin
Bertans/Toppin/Aminu
Sabonis/Bitadze/Garza-60

Draft 2nd star to grow with Barrett

Quickley/D.Mitchell-17/Holiday
Barrett/Lamb/Grimes-47
Cunningham/Bullocks/Holiday
K.Jones-14/Young/Aminu
Turner/Robinson/Noah

03 Apr 2021 20:25:57
Pacers giving up WAY TOO MUCH. they laugh and hang up.

31 Mar 2021 23:52:59
Magic/Knicks NBA Draft & Off-Season

Magic get Kevin Knox

Knicks get 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Magic release Michael Carter Williams

01 Apr 2021 14:34:17
Knox for Ross 22 2nd.

01 Apr 2021 18:32:29
Ross is as productive as Barrett almost. Know is MCW at best in value.

02 Apr 2021 04:43:59
Barrett hasn't missed a game. Ross has played 30 games. Availability is a talent you can't forget. I am not fan of his game, like Butler he getting better each year.

02 Apr 2021 18:00:04
Shizzee he started so low had to get better.

30 Mar 2021 04:03:30
Magic/Pelicans NBA Draft & Off-Season

Pelicans get Terrance Ross Michael Carter Williams 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Magic get Eric Bledsoe 2022 first round pick.via Lakers from Pelicans

Second Trade

Magic/Knicks

Knicks get Eric Bledsoe

Magic get Kevin Knox 18 million TPE two future second round picks from Knicks

Magic draft Jalen Green #3 pick & Kai Jones #10 pick

30 Mar 2021 09:41:48
I thought Bledsoe is trash?

30 Mar 2021 09:41:48
I thought Bledsoe is trash?

30 Mar 2021 12:24:47
pelicans are going to need Bledsoe, Knicks will pursue and over pay Lonzo Ball 4yr 100mil.

30 Mar 2021 13:42:42
Trying to figure out why the Magic are even in this deal. Couldn't the Pelicans just trade Bledsoe into Knicks available cap space? Pelicans would probably be able to keep that Lakers first.

30 Mar 2021 14:43:34
Garbage trade idea. A Dominos Pizza box has a better chance of making a fair trade idea than you do

A first back for that pile of garbage

28 Mar 2021 21:33:42
Going beyond the winter of 2021, Mavs will look to sign Holmes or to trade for Turner in the summer. Both can shoot - both a better fit as Drummond. And Mavs may go after Beal.

Knicks 1st 2022 Mavs
Mavs Turner, Beal
Wiz WCS, Green, 3x1st 2024/26/28
Pacers Maxi, Brunson

29 Mar 2021 12:20:34
Like the Mavs can even offer a 2022 1st.
Like TUrner's value is that low.
Like you can even lowball for Beal that low.
Like WTF, man?

29 Mar 2021 12:59:59
He left out the piece where the Knicks return the 2023 first to Dallas on the list. This can happen anytime after the 2021 draft.

29 Mar 2021 19:58:00
a) not enough for Beal
b) not enough for Turner.

01 Apr 2021 12:34:14
IMO Turner is not worth much more than that. He blocks a few shots but doesn't do much else. People make a big deal about him shooting 3s but he doesn't do it very well. I think he's overpaid and overvalued, and that's probably why Indy hasn't traded him yet. On the flip side, Brunson is a pretty good player.

26 Mar 2021 12:18:00
I think Kings start Haliburton next year. Wright and Davis gives them a good backcourt bench. Can resign Davis pretty easily.

Tell me what you think Fredman

Kings - Turner
Knicks - Hield
Pacers - Toppin Ntilikina Ramsey and Dallas 2021 1st

- Kings get their center
- Knicks get the perfect shooter for RJ & Randle
- Pacers get last years top 10 pick and another 1sts

Kings draft Jalen Johnson F

Fox/Wright/Guy
Haliburton/Davis
Barnes/Johnson/Woodard
Bagley/Harkless/Kabengele
Turner/Holmes

26 Mar 2021 13:04:41
I don't think Indy does it. Hield added to a Brogdon-Lavert backcourt doesn't really work either.

Perhaps Hield for Capella makes a little more sense as I could see Atlanta interested in Hield if they resogn Collins and last years pick from USC develops (blankong on the name at the moment) .

26 Mar 2021 13:25:56
Sorry misread. Guess I am not fully awake. I don't think Toppin fits in Indy either (as well as the other pieces) .

26 Mar 2021 14:51:58
There is a reason why kings are winning with Haliburton in starting lineup. Hield is garbage when you newbie emphasis defense instead stats, you would know HIeld is overpaid by 15 mil. I rather have Burks and Bullock for a 3rd of the price than Hield. both equal shooters and but way better defenders. Ntilikina is fa. I rather trade Toppin for late 1st early 2nd than to trade him for Hield and his buck teeth.

26 Mar 2021 15:01:05
You think they will want a Trae/ Hield backcourt defensively?

26 Mar 2021 15:35:40
I switch Turner for Sabonis, if we can get a the kings 2021 pick.

26 Mar 2021 16:30:07
shizzee. It is not like Hield is not still in the starting lineup while the Kings have been winning. If anything, Kings winning is more of an indictment on Bagley (who is out with an injury) than Hield.

Also, Kings are playing a much easier schedule the second half of the season. Kings played the 2nd hardest first half of the season while they have the 3rd easiest second half. So there is still hope. Currently only 2 games out of the play-in games.

Also, kinda like the moves the Kings made at the trade deadline. Didn't blow anything up but traded away most of their "dead weight" and made the second unit much better. Kinda curious to see if Mo Harkless pushes Halliburton back to the bench once he learns the Kings plays/ defenses.

26 Mar 2021 16:55:12
Rather trade Toppin for a late 1st or early 2nd? Geez shizzee do you know value? Toppin can definitely be in a package to upgrade a position.

26 Mar 2021 18:37:06
@NBA16. Atlanta signed Gallinari and Bogdanovich on the off season. Does it sound like they are thinking about defense?

24 Mar 2021 21:55:40
The monster of a trade create a monster of a team at Celtics using their 28m trade exception:

Pacers Williams III, Langford, Walker, 1st
Celtics Turner, Gordon, Holiday, Brogdon
Magic Grand Williams, 1st


Brogdon, Brown, Tatum, Gordon, Turner
Smart, Holiday, McDermott, Theis, Thompson

Crash the league ....

25 Mar 2021 03:17:00
Indiana says no.

30 Mar 2021 04:19:35
Indiana laughs and hangs up. Not anywhere even close to even.

24 Mar 2021 21:46:46
Do complex trades work?

Magic Johnson, Brogdon
Wiz THJ, Brunson, 2x1st and 2x2nd
Mavs Turner, Beal, Holiday
Pacers Gordon, Fournier, Brunson

25 Mar 2021 03:19:19
Bruh u joking? Beal can easily fetch 4 1st and a young star. There’s no way any of these teams help the mavs that much.

24 Mar 2021 19:32:08
Knicks - Brogdon

Pacers - Knox Ntilikina & both Dallas 1sts

- Knicks get a good PG who's borderline all star amd can fit real well with this group

- Pacers get 2 young prospects to develop and a mid 1st this year

Brogdon/Payton
Quickley/Rose
Barrett/Burks
Randle/Toppin
Mitchell/Noel

Holiday/Ntilikina
Levert/Holiday
Warren/Lamb/Mcdermott
Sabonis/Knox
Turned/Bitadze

24 Mar 2021 21:19:55
Two young prospects that showed little to no promise.

25 Mar 2021 02:59:49
Not many do on the Knicks. Pacers are good at developing.

25 Mar 2021 03:21:24
Good trade, I think the value is pretty good. Brogdon is nearly an all star caliber player so 2 1st and 2 potentially good players to redevelop is an enticing package.

25 Mar 2021 04:06:17
Mitchell Robinson Quickley Barrett are developing fine. Ntilikina and Knox not so fine. I think Toppin is a bust. I think are going hold off until Lonzo Ball.

23 Mar 2021 20:27:02
Knicks get Lonzo Ball, Justin Holiday
- Knicks get a much improved version of Lonzo and a quality guy to come off the bench

Ball Rose Payton
Quickley Burks
Barrett Bullock Holiday
Randle Gibson
Robinson Noel

Indiana get Eric Bledsoe, Frank Ntilikina, 2 1st round picks from New Orleans, DAL 1st from Knicks
- Pacers can buyout Bledsoe if they want or stick with him and trade him offseason

Pelicans get Malcolm Brogdon, Kevin Knox

Brogdon
Alexander
Ingram
Williamson
Adams

24 Mar 2021 07:24:24
Knicks not trading pick for Lonzo. They can sign him next yr as they more money than anybody to sign him. his father wants him to be a knicks player too.

22 Mar 2021 18:17:34
Reports have Charlotte in hot pursuit of Myles Turner. If I am Indy here is my trade proposal:

Pacers Receive: C. Zeller, P.J. Washington and 2021 first.

Charlotte Receives: M. Turner, A. Holiday, 2021 second via Mil.

With Ball out now they cannot really afford to move Grahm, and Holiday gives them some additional depth. i know Charlotte fans will not like the idea of giving up that first round pick but that is the only way the Pacers do this.

22 Mar 2021 19:54:52
Does Marvin Bagley and a lottery protected first (converts to 2 seconds if not conveyed) for Turner work for you?

22 Mar 2021 21:18:59
Is the report true that some GM's don't value Bagley?

22 Mar 2021 23:25:47
Bagley has hardly any value right now.

21 Mar 2021 22:10:58
NYK: Lonzo Ball

NOP: Frank Ntilikina, Kevin Knox, DAL 2021 1st round pick

If the news is accurate that Lonzo is in the Knicks radar, this would probably makes sense for both sides. Lonzo's been playing good the past few months

Then

NYK: Myles Turner

IND: Obi Toppin, Nerlens Noel, 1st round pick DAL 2023

Indy gets an athletic PF who could fit with Sabonis long term while adding more big depth. NYK get a defensive center who can shoot the ball. Seems like a perfect Thibs guy

NYK roster

Lonzo/Rose/Payton
Quickley/Burks
Barrett/Bullock
Randle/Gibson/Brazdeikis
Turner/Robinson

pretty good young roster who can play defense and can grind it out through the playoffs. They still have their pick to keep their control of their future

22 Mar 2021 13:21:29
Knicks fan much?

21 Mar 2021 20:01:30
Orlando get Ntilikina Payton Knox Pinson Brazdeikas Det 2nd
Pacers get Noel Toppin Marjonovic Dal 23 1st
Mavs get Rivers Brazdeikas
Knicks get Ross Turner Aminu Clark MCW Stanley

Rivers/Brunson/Burke
Richardson/Green/Terry
Doncic/Hardaway/Iwundu
Smith/Kleber/Johnson
Porzingis/Powell/Stein

strengthen front court depth
McConnell/Holiday/Sumner
Brogdon/Lavert/Martin
McDermott/Holiday/Sampson
Sabonis/Warren/Toppin
Noah/Bitadze/Marjonovic

Free cap space to resign Fournier & Birch

21-22
Fultz/Anthony/Lecque
Fournier/Moody-7/Grimes-32
Isaac/Knox/Brazdeikas
Gordon/Okeke/Prkocin-45
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

Quickley/Rose/MCW
Burks/Ross/Stanley
Barrett/Bullock/Brazdeikas
Randle/Aminu/Clark
Turner/Robinson/Gibson

21 Mar 2021 22:58:30
Seems like an awful lot of future the Knicks give up for a bunch of bums.

22 Mar 2021 00:58:34
Magic say no this is horrible.

 
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