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24 Sep 2021 03:31:37

Clippers get Terrance Ross Thomas Bryant

Grizzlies get Davis Bertans Serge Ibaka 2022 second round pick.via Clippers 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Wizards get Steven Adams Michael Carter Williams

Magic get Luke Kennard Jarrett Culver

Second Trade


Magic get 2025 second round pick.via Hawks from Thunder Gary Harris $20.4 Million TPE

Thunder get Gary Harris 2022 second round pick.via Magic 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Magic receive Jarrett Culver Luke Kennard 2025 second round pick.via Hawks from Thunder Gary Harris $20.4 Million TPE

Magic lost Gary Harris Michael Carter Williams Terrance Ross + two 2022 second round picks

Thunder receive Gary Harris + two 2022 second round picks

Thunder lost 2025 second round pick.via Hawks

Clippers receive Terrance Ross Thomas Bryant

Clippers lost Luke Kennard Serge Ibaka 2022 second round pick & 2025 second round pick.via Pistons

Grizzlies receive Davis Bertans Serge Ibaka 2022 second round pick.via Clippers 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Grizzlies lost Steven Adams Jarrett Culver

Wizards receive Steven Adams Michael Carter Williams

Wizards lost Davis Bertans Thomas Bryant

24 Sep 2021 13:36:28
is it me or do these rumors seem more and more like they are coming from Charlie Brown's school teacher? Sorry to the millennials for such an old reference.

24 Sep 2021 13:53:17
mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah.

23 Sep 2021 14:34:43

Clippers get:
- Ben Simmons
- Kevin Love
- Cedi Osman

76ers get:
- Collin Sexton
- Marcus Morris Sr.
- Ivica Zubac
- Keon Johnson
- 2028 Clippers unprotected first round pick

Thunder get:
- Luke Kennard
- Serge Ibaka
- 2023 Clippers second round pick
- 2024 Clippers second round pick
- 2025 Clippers second round pick
- 2025 Clippers second round pick (via Pistons)

Cavaliers get:
- Eric Bledsoe

Analysis -

Clippers: They get a top 30 player who gives them a legitimate two-way Big 3 of Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, & Ben Simmons. Instantly, they'd be a popular favorite to win it all. It would be quite the move considering their limited assets. They'd also reak the benefits of whatever Cali native Kevin Love has left in the tank, if he stays healthy.

Sixers: Collin Sexton is an elite scoring guard to replace Simmons offensively. Adding Morris to lineup helps to replace what Simmons provides defensively, while improving their overall floor spacing, as Morris shot 47% from outside last season. Ivica Zubac has become a very good all around big man and would become an exceptional backup to Joel Embiid or injury/rest replacement. Keon Johnson was drafted with the 21st overall selection this past draft, while many had him as a projected lottery pick. An additional unprotected first rounder that far into the future could spell danger for the Clippers and promise for the 76ers.

Thunder: Luke Kennard is 25, a lights out shooter (45% from 3), and will probably grow in a bigger role like the one OKC can grant him. Serge Ibaka returns to the team that drafted him on an expiring contract and provide veteran leadership. The Thunder would be taking on more than $20M on their books operating as a team well under the cap, so they would be gifted a myriad of second round picks for their troubles.

Cavaliers: They would essentially be using Collin Sexton, who is reportedly unlikely to sign a contract extension prior to the season, to salary dump the $40M combined annual salaries of Love and Osman for the next two seasons. In return, they would nab Eric Bledsoe who would subsequently take Sexton's spot in the starting lineup and is essentially on an expiring contract, as he is only owed $4M guaranteed in 2022.

23 Sep 2021 15:29:04
Our definition of elite is very different. Sexton is growing on me though.

23 Sep 2021 15:30:32
Eric Bledsoe is a negative contract. The Cavs shouldn't be giving up value to dump Kevin Love.

23 Sep 2021 15:30:55
Sorry, Cavs are giving up Sexton to get Bledsoe.

23 Sep 2021 05:42:38
Magic/Celtics NBA Trade Deadline

Magic get Al Horford 2022 first round pick(Top 5 protected).via Boston 2023 second round pick.via Blazers from Boston

Celtics get Terrance Ross Michael Carter Williams Robin Lopez

Celtics can keep all their young players like Grant Williams Romeo Langford Aaron Nesmith Payton Pritchard Juhann Begarin

Add depth for bench just a case if Jayson Tatum Jaylen Brown Marcus Smart Josh Richardson Dennis Schröder Robert Williams get injured they got back up plans

Second Trade

Clippers get Gary Harris 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic 2022 second round pick.via Magic

Magic get Luke Kennard Serge Ibaka(buyout) 2025 second round pick.Pistons from Clippers

If Serge Ibaka can't stay healthy than they should be thinking about trading him

Magic receive Luke Kennard Al Horford 2022 first round pick(Top 5 protected).via Boston 2023 second round pick.via Blazers from Boston 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Magic lost Gary Harris Terrance Ross Michael Carter Williams Robin Lopez + two 2022 second round picks

Clippers receive Gary Harris 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic 2022 second round pick.via Magic

Clippers lost Luke Kennard Serge Ibaka 2025 second round pick.via Pistons

Celtics receive Terrance Ross Michael Carter Williams Robin Lopez

Celtics lost Al Horford 2022 first round pick(Top 5 protected).via Boston 2023 second round pick.via Blazers

Gary Harris fit perfectly with Clippers they need 3 & D guard/wing

Luke Kennard fit perfectly with Magic they need a shooter

Al Horford can Mentor Wendell Carter Jr & Mo Bamba

Terrance Ross & Michael Carter Williams & Robin Lopez fit perfectly with Celtics

23 Sep 2021 10:54:42
Won't work for Boston. Horford fits them well and he fills a position of need. The big problem is that they'd somehow have to move 2 other players to accommodate the extra incoming players. Plus they're not looking to give up a pick for something like this.

23 Sep 2021 17:17:23
I don’t even bother reading your posts. You should have your own page on this site to save us all the headache.

23 Sep 2021 19:56:56
My posts about your trades are getting edited because of the strong language included to address how bad some of these are. You are trying to extract some value from the old bench players on what may be the worse team in the league. No one wants these guys, because if they did, the players would have already been traded for a bag of tamales.

23 Sep 2021 01:37:02
Magic/Boston/Rockets/Mavericks Mid Season or Trade Deadline

Magic get Al Horford Josh Green Jabari Parker 2023 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks Rockets 2023 second round pick.via Blazers from Boston

Rockets get Dwight Powell Gary Harris Grant Williams Trey Burke

Mavericks get Terrance Ross Dennis Schroder

Boston get John Wall Robin Lopez

Second Trade

Magic get 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Clippers get Jabari Parker

Magic receive Al Horford Josh Green 2023 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks from Rockets 2023 second round pick.via Blazers from Boston 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers 7

Magic lost Terrance Ross Gary Harris Robin Lopez

Rockets receive Dwight Powell Gary Harris Grant Williams Trey Burke

Rockets lost John Wall 2022 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks

Mavericks receive Terrance Ross Dennis Schroder

Mavericks lost Dwight Powell Josh Green Trey Burke

Boston receive John Wall Robin Lopez

Boston lost Al Horford Jabari Parker Grant Williams Dennis Schroder 2023 second round pick.via Blazers

Clippers receive Jabari Parker

Clippers lost 2025 second round pick.via Pistons

19 Sep 2021 23:56:16
Rockets get: Killian Hayes, Pistons' '24 or'25 1st, Sixers' '23 1st

Pistons get: Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey

Sixers get: John Wall, Jerami Grant

20 Sep 2021 01:18:06
Horrible for Philly.

20 Sep 2021 01:54:27
how is it horrible for Philly?

20 Sep 2021 02:46:31
That package is barely decent for Simmons alone. Wall contract is worst in league.

20 Sep 2021 04:16:57
well then Detroit can add a 1st rounder and Houston can add someone like House. would that balance it more?

20 Sep 2021 06:42:21
No lol. No way rockets get Hayes and 2 1sts for Wall lol. House doesn’t do much to that either.

20 Sep 2021 12:08:00
Salaries work? Philly taking on $64 mil in salary while sending out $35.6 mil.

20 Sep 2021 14:55:17
Because you undervalued the cost of moving Wall. Simmons value dropped but not that badly.

20 Sep 2021 21:38:06
how about this

Pistons get: Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey

Sixers get: Jerami Grant, John Wall, Eric Gordon, future Rockets 1st, Pistons 2nd rd pk

Rockets get: Killian Hayes, Rodney McGruder, future Pistons 1st.

19 Sep 2021 03:29:38

Magic get Ty Jerome 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Rockets get Gary Harris 2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Thunder get Eric Bledsoe(buyout) 2022 second round pick.via Clippers

Clippers get Eric Gordon

Magic got young player +future second round pick which is very valuable plus save salary cap space relief

Clippers got pure scorer for bench

Rockets got solid player who are expiring contract + second round pick

Thunder got solid player but they going to buyout his contract + second round pick

19 Sep 2021 08:20:17
So okc spends how much for that second?

19 Sep 2021 09:46:50
Exactly, Shiller. OKC can probably get a late first at the trade deadline for the cap space needed to take on Harris. Why would they settle for a mid-second?

19 Sep 2021 10:01:18
Thunder are not taking Harris they’re taking Bledsoe if they want to keep Bledsoe it’s up to them but Magic wouldn’t give up any first round picks to unload Harris contract which is expiring they can only give up one or two second round picks that it

Instead of Magic trading Harris they will waive Harris let him go anywhere if teams ask for any first round picks to take him dude he is expiring.

19 Sep 2021 13:47:44
You are looking at it SOLOLY from the Magic perspective. From OKC POV, previous trades have shown that they can get better draft capital than a mid-second. OKC's GM understands this.

16 Sep 2021 19:00:45

Pacers get Marcus Morris Sr

Hornets get Ivica Zubac 2022 second round pick.via Clippers 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Clippers get Myles Turner Miles Bridges

Pacers starter

Clippers starter

Hornets starter

Give me y'all opinion be honest

16 Sep 2021 20:06:10
No from everyone but Clips.

16 Sep 2021 21:26:31
I'd say no chance from Hornets or Pacers.

16 Sep 2021 22:01:02
Why for hornets?

17 Sep 2021 12:44:26
No from Indiana. We are not trading a 25yr old 3&D center for 32 yr old Morris who is on the downside of his career. C'Mon man!

14 Sep 2021 12:40:35
Cleveland receives: Jerami Grant

Detroit receives: Kevin Love, '22 unprotected first via Cavs

Oklahoma receives: Josh Jackson


Cleveland gets a much needed wing to round out their roster.

Detroit gets an unprotected first that has a chance to be good.

Oklahoma gives Josh Jackson a look. They need to reach the salary floor anyway.

PG: Darius Garland / Ricky Rubio / Kevin Pangos
SG: Collin Sexton / Isaac Okoro / Denzel Valentine
SF: Jerami Grant / Cedi Osman / Dylan Windler / Lamar Stevens
PF: Evan Mobley / Lauri Makkanen / Dean Wade
C: Jarrett Allen / Mfondy Kabengele
Coach: J. B. Bickerstaff.

14 Sep 2021 14:31:14
Detriot should get that first for Grant by himself. Where is the compensation for taking on Love's contract?

Also, not sure Detroit has the cap space to take on the Grant-Love salary difference ($11 mil) when Detroit is over the salary cap with $45 mil in dead money.

14 Sep 2021 21:30:35
this is the best offer Cleveland will get from Detroit if they want Grant and want to give them Love.

CLE gets Jerami Grant, Rodney McGruder, Kelly Olynyk, a couple 2nd rd picks

DET gets Collin Sexton, Kevin Love, Isaac Okoro, 2022 unprotected 1st rd pick.

13 Sep 2021 11:50:13
Washington - Detroit

Washington get Grant


Detroit get Avdija & Kuzma


13 Sep 2021 13:45:57
Washington adds at least a 1st Rd pick to this right?

13 Sep 2021 19:58:13
I think Grant is a good play but no way should you mortgage future for him. Especially this team. Avdija is their best player for the future which they need to build for instead of trying to compete and failing every year.

11 Sep 2021 00:23:16
Bulls get Jerami Grant

Pistons get Coby White, Patrick Williams and POR (lottery protected) 2022 1st round pick.



11 Sep 2021 01:22:26
Grant seems like a great fit in Chicago. I like this a lot.

11 Sep 2021 04:53:30
Why would Pistons do this? They should be thinking about trading Hayes he is a bust.

11 Sep 2021 05:52:11
This is great for both teams. Tho Pat Williams has a ceiling that could be better than Grant.

11 Sep 2021 08:37:25
I think it's an overpay for chicago, but i can see them doing this to win now.

11 Sep 2021 23:10:06
I like the idea, but I don't think they'll be able to afford Grant's next contract in 2 years. He has left good situations before to get what he wants. I also probably value Patrick Williams more than most.

09 Sep 2021 11:00:08
Blazers-Sixers-Pistons trade:

Blazers get:
Jerami Grant
Ben Simmons

Sixers get:
CJ McCollum
Hamidou Diallo
2024 FRP Detroit Top 10 protected
2023 FRP Portland Top 5 protected

Pistons get:
Robert Covington
Anfernee Simons
Nassir Little
2 second round picks from Portland

They become true contenders with one of the best defensive frontcourts while not losing much defense. CJ's shot creation is more than replaced by Grant and Simmons, and they do not lose a lot of depth. This would be the best Portland team in awhile.
Lillard-Powell-Simmons-Grant-Nurkic with a bench unit of Nance, Mclemore, Snell, and Zeller

They get a young player who averaged double digits in Hamidou Diallo, two firsts, and a very good fit in CJ McCollum. They won't get their superstar, but this return is great for them, and they can use their two first round picks for more depth.

Curry-McCollum-Thybulle-Harris-Embiid with a bench of Maxey, Korkmaz, Green, and Drummond

They get a lot of young talent in return for Grant, and Robert Covington if they wish to be competitive as well. They give up a protected first, but they get two seconds in return, and if they don't make the playoffs, chances are they keep the pick.

Cunningham-Hayes-Bey-Covington-Stewart with a bench of Simons, Little, Lee and Olynyk

09 Sep 2021 11:15:48
A lot of young talent to Detroit? Where? Lmao why would a rebuilding team trade a 1st round pick and get worse players in return.

09 Sep 2021 13:00:14
They get two second round picks in return for a pick that will most likely go back to them if they are still rebuilding by then, since it is top 10 protected. By 2024, Detroit could be a contender. Roco can provide 70% of the defense of Grant, and can most likely be swapped for a first. Little has the potential to be as good, if not better than Grant, and Simons averaged great numbers for a 22 year old.

09 Sep 2021 13:38:49
Nah. Not advisable to trade assets if you are rebuilding unless you are getting huge return. This is a meh return for Detroit, they say no. In fact, they can get more than this for Grant alone.

09 Sep 2021 14:36:43
Brutally bad trade for the Pistons.

09 Sep 2021 17:26:17
The value is off, but the framework could be moved around maybe?

Portland gets Simmons and Grant

Phili gets McCollum and RoCo

Detroit gets Simons, Maxey, Little, Portland first

It probably depends on how people see Maxey and Simons. I think Simons on Detroit could break out to being a ~20 ppg scorer.

09 Sep 2021 19:07:33
Bad thing is all the youth they’re getting will be guards when they already have Cade and Hayes. So 2 will be on bench all times.

09 Sep 2021 19:39:37
Cade’s 6’8, just make him slide to SF.

And if you’re trading for Simons and Maxey, I’d assume the expectation is that maybe 1 pops and is a starting caliber player.

10 Sep 2021 02:41:10
i would rather keep Grant and Diallo. they are better than any of the names we would be "trading them for" and if we are just "going young" then why trade a 1st round pick and get 2 second round picks back? whoever made this trade suggestion does not like the Pistons. i cannot smile at you or take you seriously.

07 Sep 2021 04:52:43
Hawks get Jerami Grant and a second round pick

Pistons get De'Andre Hunter

Hawks get a more established player to help them win now, Pistons get a young forward who fits the team timeline better.

07 Sep 2021 08:17:49
So there is a $12+ mil salary difference and ATL is almost over the luxury tax line.

07 Sep 2021 08:53:29
Why is Detroit trading Grant, who blossomed for them on s very friendly team contract?
They are not!

07 Sep 2021 12:06:43
Fredman it works on fanspo’s trade machine, I trust them over your “expert” cap analysis.

07 Sep 2021 14:13:46
@Casual. And it fails on ESPN's trade machine.

Look at the top line of Fasnpo's trade before you try it. It tells you that how much cap space Atlanta has and it is not enough.

09 Sep 2021 17:51:07
Not a bad trade. Might help the Hawks marginally right now. I’d rather have a healthy Hunter for the long term.

07 Sep 2021 02:59:37
Knicks get: Josh Jackson

Pistons get: Kevin Knox, future 2nd.

07 Sep 2021 04:18:24
Jackson showed some flashes for us last year and should get more playing time in the wake of the Sekou trade. Knox, on the other hand, is a bona fide scrub. Pistons pass.

07 Sep 2021 00:04:54
Cleveland receives: Jerami Grant, DeAndre Jordan and Josh Jackson

Detroit receives: Isaac Okoro, Kevin Love and '22 first (prot. top 5 '22 and '23, otherwise 2 2nds)


Cleveland gets a much needed wing to round out the roster. The other players are added to match salary.

Detroit gets a young wing prospect and a solid pick.

07 Sep 2021 02:41:53
I think it’s close. But Detroit should get more.

07 Sep 2021 04:11:39
DJ has already been bought out and is on the Lakers.

07 Sep 2021 08:00:51
not a chance. Kevin Love makes WAY too much that would tie up the Pistons salary for the next few years. Jerami Grant and Josh Jackson have much more value than that.

here is one that makes more sense and is more fair (if the Pistons are dealing with the Cavs for some reason)

Cavs get: Josh Jackson, Rodney McGruder, 4 second round picks

Pistons get: Kevin Love, Isaac Okoro, Colin Sexton

that is what its going to take for anyone to take on Kevin Love's contract. Cavs do not need Sexton. Pistons get 2 young guys to add to the youth core plus we give Cleveland a TON of cap space, a more established winger in Jackson, and 4 second rounders.

both teams rebuilding. Cunningham puts the Pistons ahead of the Cavs so we can take Love's contract to put them in a better position financially to build around Garland, Jackson, Allen and Mobley. Pistons can use Kevin Love since they need rebounding and Love can spread too.

05 Sep 2021 18:17:50
Detroit / Chicago

Det trades Grant, 4 2nd rd picks

Bulls trade D jones jr., Pat Williams.

Bulls could use some 3&D players who can guard multiple positions. Grants pretty good

Pistons are in a rebuild and we're linked to Williams before the draft. I think he fits with what they're build and they could use the athleticism

05 Sep 2021 19:45:45
It’s horrible trade.

05 Sep 2021 22:39:10
Detroit is not trading Grant.

05 Sep 2021 22:53:08
Not bad. If the bulls take the picks we just got from Brooklyn then I’m all for it as a Pistons fan.

05 Sep 2021 22:53:43
Very nice trade. Grant fits better with the Bulls and their playoff aspirations, while Williams is a nice prospect to build around for the rebuilding Pistons.

05 Sep 2021 23:04:28
Bulls can't package DJJ with any other player until 60 days after the Markkanen S&T completes.
Grant is by far the best player in the trade. why would Detroit give up picks?

06 Sep 2021 02:59:36
The picks are the ones just acquired from the sekou, deandre Jordan trade with nets. I was throwing them in as sweeteners. I think Williams has some star potential and Chicago just drafted him pretty high and as a Pistons fan I’d love to keep them but I value the young athletic forward more than some future second which we can acquire later if needed.

06 Sep 2021 16:14:19
Wouldn't do it as the Bulls. Williams is younger, cheaper, and has a good deal of potential.

04 Sep 2021 01:44:56
Pistons get DeAndre Jordan, four second round picks, and $5.78M

Nets get Sekou Doumbouya and Jahlil Okafor

As a Pistons fan, I like it. Sekou has been a bust and Jahlil is an awful defender. Four second round picks is a nice haul, although we're paying about $2M per pick considering the DeAndre Jordan buyout.

The Nets saved a ton of money in luxury taxes with this move so I get it, but four second round picks seems like a lot to give up. Nets fans will be disappointed by the players they're bringing in imo.


04 Sep 2021 15:52:55
How does this have 4 unbelievables, it literally happened 😂.

04 Sep 2021 16:28:32
If Nets want to replace those 4 second round picks (2 of which aren't theirs anyways) they can buy them for a whole lot less than what they'll be saving on repeater taxes down the road. Pistons replace all those picks they sent to the Clippers in return for giving up cap space they weren't going to use anyways. looks like a win win to me. Nets will likely just release the players they're getting back, or keep them for salary fodder for a future trade. Taking them on was a big enough win on the tax side that the Nets don't care if they ever play.

04 Sep 2021 19:12:53
Pistons actually create cap space with this move after completing the DJ buyout. Good analysis tho raps fan.

02 Sep 2021 06:23:14

Clippers get Terrance Ross

Magic get Luke Kennard Danuel House Jr 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Magic would ask future second round pick to take Luke Kennard contract + it's overpaid but he is young and good shooter that what they need on the roster

Clippers wouldn't mind giving up future second round pick they're win now mode

Second Trade


Rockets get 2026 second round pick.via Bucks from Magic Danuel House Jr $3.8 Million Dollars TPE

Magic get Danuel House Jr

Magic use Al-Farouq Aminu $4.2 Million Dollars TPE to get Danuel House Jr

Peoples what y'all think this deal?? Be honest

02 Sep 2021 06:43:13
Magic get Luke Kennard 2025 second round pick. via Pistons from Clippers I mean my mistake!

02 Sep 2021 07:32:51
So many useless trades.

02 Sep 2021 04:32:05
Magic/Clippers/Pacers/Rockets Four Team Deal

Clippers get Terrance Ross

Pacers get Eric Gordon

Magic get Luke Kennard 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Rockets get Jeremy Lamb Justin Holiday 2022 second round pick.via Heat from Pacers 2025 second round pick.via Heat from Pacers

Salary Match

Check it out on ESPN NBA Trade Machine

Terrance Ross would like to play for contenders he can help Clippers a lot with scoring punch off the bench

Eric Gordon would like to go contenders or playoffs he doesn't want be on rebuilding process anymore He can help Pacers a lot with scoring punch off the bench

Luke Kennard wouldn't mind play for Magic he just wanna to play basketball that all he still young also can start or come off the bench give them good shooting

Orlando Magic need shooting on a roster

Clippers are win now mode they don't care about picks they want to win championship

Pacers are playoffs team trying go deep

Rockets are getting Jeremy Lamb and Justin Holiday to match salary but also get two second round picks back in return because Eric Gordon had good value

Peoples what y'all think this deal??

02 Sep 2021 04:56:09
Horrible for Pacers. Y do Magic get younger and picks.

01 Sep 2021 00:43:43

Wolves get Ben Simmons Tyrese Maxey

Clippers get D'Angelo Russell Shake Milton

Rockets get Eric Bledsoe Luke Kennard 2027 first round pick(lottery protected).via Clippers

76ers get John Wall Keon Johnson 2022 first round pick(Top 5 protected).via Wolves 2023 first round pick(unprotected).via Bucks from Rockets 2024 first round pick(unprotected).via Nets from Rockets 2025 second round pick.via Pistons from Clippers

Peoples what y'all think this deal?? Be honest

01 Sep 2021 01:52:45
Sixers getting rob. Would take at least 1 first to dump Wall. So Johnson and 2 1sts for Simmons Maxey and Milton?

31 Aug 2021 07:49:45
Dallas gets Jerami Grant,josh Jackson,
Sekou doumbouya

Detroit gets kristaps porzingis

31 Aug 2021 11:40:59
Jerami Grant>>> KP.

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