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02 Jul 2021 06:45:52

76ers get:
Pick 16, Pick 18 via OKC and Lowry (S&T)

Raptors get: SGA

OKC get:
Ben Simmons and Pick 4 via Raptors

Why the Raptors do the trade:
They get a better player than they would with Pick 4 who fits to the timeline of Siakam, Anunoby and VanVleet.

Why the 76ers do it:
They get a good PG to complement Embiid, what makes them a better contender. They also have now 3 Picks this year which they can use for additional moves.

Why the OKC do the trade:
SGA can sign a max-deal and I don't see him as the No.1 guy on a championship team. So trading him for a chance at a Franchiseplayer is a possibility. With the 4th Pick they have a small chance to get a No. 1 guy. Additionally they get Simmons who has a small chance to improve into a No. 2 guy. OKC also could package Pick 4 and 6 to trade up.


1.) 02 Jul 2021 09:53:15
Philly should wait a little before trading Simmons, his stock can only go up.

2.) 02 Jul 2021 12:09:37
Oh man, if only.

3.) 02 Jul 2021 12:40:35
I can understand sga for 4. pick.

I can understand 2 first for simmons to pair him with sga. I would do it in a heart beat and I think they can be very good duo.

I don't understand what will okc will do with simmons after they trade sga.

4.) 02 Jul 2021 13:56:36
you suggest that OKC should do the deal to avoid paying SGA the max when he becomes eligible, but you trade him for a guy who is already making the max, and, in your own estimation, isn't a #1 guy.
just don't see the value for OKC here.

5.) 02 Jul 2021 14:49:43
@windrapsfan. The value is Suggs or Mobley being at #4. If Suggs can develop into SGA (fair chance) then getting Simmons for #16 and #18 is an apparent steal according to Simmons perceived value around the league.

6.) 02 Jul 2021 23:28:11
@Fredman - suggs becoming sga is going to take a few years. i think presti has accumulated enough assets to be ready to spend those on competing before he's ready. but mostly i was arguing the point of being shy of sga's next contract but willing to take on simmons'. if you see the trade as simmons for sga, and 4 for 16 and 18, then okc says no to the first, and toronto says no to the second.



26 Jun 2021 07:18:05
3-Team trade between Hornets, GSW and 76ers:

Hornets get Wiseman

Warriors get Simmons

76ers get: Oubre S&T 68/4, Rozier, Pick #11 via Hornets

Why for the Hornets: Get another young, talented player with the same timeline than Ball. They also can resign Graham.

Why for the 76ers: Rozier is the kind of PG they look for. Can defend and fits therefore next to Curry. He's also a good shooter who complements their team and who can fill in as 2a/2b scoring option. Oubre is an additional good, young Wing they can use. With the Picks this year they can also look for another good player.


1.) 26 Jun 2021 11:08:38
i don't think you can do a sign and trade in combination with another player.

2.) 26 Jun 2021 12:21:19
@Gasupo - you're right. to add a player in a sign and trade it must be a separate consecutive deal.
To execute this trade GSW must be able to make a first deal that sends Oubre out for something that meets the CBA. One way would be for the Hornets to acquire Simmons and then deal him to GSW for Oubre. So CHA sends Rozier and #11 to PHI for Simmons, then deals Simmons for Oubre. CHA then flips Oubre to PHI for some unknown player in Europe's signing rights, and GSW sends Wiseman for another unknown player's rights.
The problem with this scenario is all the trades have to fit the CBA. Hornets probably have room to absord the difference in Simmons salary from Rozier's, but GSW can't take Simmons in unless they sign Oubre for at least $28M per year. Nobody is going to pay Oubre that much.



25 Jun 2021 12:59:43
Clippers - 76ers after the draft

Clippers get Ben Simmons

76ers get Rondo, Morris, Zubac, 2021 1st Round Pick and 2028 1st Round Pick

Clippers can use Simmons as a Center and an upgrade over Zubac. So teams can't expose him like Doncic did.

76ers get a good backup for Embiid, a good Wing and a Mentor for Maxey. The additional Picks can be used to get a new No. 2/3 behind Embiid and Harris.


1.) 25 Jun 2021 13:30:38
Morris > Simmons.



23 Jun 2021 15:12:04
76ers - Detroit

Philly gets Grant,Joseph and Plumlee

Maxey - Joseph - Milton
Curry - Green (resigned)
Grant - Thybulle
Harris - FA
Embiid - Plumlee

Pistons get Simmons, Hill, 2021 1st Round Pick and 2023 1st Round Pick ( 1 - 5 protected)

Roster of the future:
Hayes -
Cade - Jackson
Simmons - Sekou
Stewart -

I think pairing Simmons with Cade, Bey and Hayes could be great and gives them all time to develop their game. I think Simmons could play in similar role like Green with the GSW as a small Ball Center.

I think finding a package for the 76ers which doesn't include Grant would be even better, but I don't think the 76ers would want picks.


1.) 23 Jun 2021 16:54:19
Too much going to Detroit.

2.) 23 Jun 2021 19:36:13
Grant is good, but not that good. He’s a good 2-way player but shouldn’t be relied to be a 2/ 3 option on championship team. He played on a horrible Pistons team who had no shot creators or scoring threats.



16 Sep 2020 08:25:51
Clippers - 76ers

Clippers get Horford, Thybulle, Smith, 2021 1st rounder (Top 10 protected), 2021 2nd Rounder from Knicks, 2023 1st rounder (Top 10 protected)

76ers get Beverley, Lou Williams, Zubac


1.) 16 Sep 2020 12:50:23
Clippers have to do something for sure. So do the Rockets. All those picks OKC received from both are looking really good now as it appears both teams will be spiraling down from this point forward.

2.) 16 Sep 2020 13:28:58
Spiraling down? Really? That seems incredibly dramatic.

Houston still has two all stars. They’ve been treading water for 4 years. I think they continue that for another 4.

The Clippers are a top 4 championship contender next year if they bring everything back. One game doesn’t change the fantastic roster they have. They’ll likely make a few moves. But I think they’ll get better if they do, not worse.

3.) 16 Sep 2020 16:24:39
Agree with BMiller.

4.) 16 Sep 2020 16:35:56
rockets are screwed. No matter what direction they go its over for awhile.

5.) 16 Sep 2020 18:48:12
Rockets will continue to lose in the second round if they don’t make drastic changes. The clippers are also not bringing everyone back, they will most likely lose Morris and Harrel in free agency as they won’t be able to afford them, and they aren’t going to get the veterans who sign for less to win a chip after this year. They will need to make a move, just not sure that they will.

6.) 16 Sep 2020 18:55:50
Both teams are spiraling down. You never mortgage ten+ years for two. Didn't the Nets teach everyone that when they mortgaged ten years to Boston for Garnett and Pierce? I believe the Clippers don't even have a first round pick until 2028. Ugh! Tweek what? You can't tweek George and Westbrook to play better in the playoffs. They either can play well or they can't and they've both proven for years that they can't.




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01 Feb 2019 14:56:35
As Shamet is balling in Philly right now and the Lakers looking for shooting, I think Philly might be ready to part ways with Redick.

What would it cost to get him?


1.) 01 Feb 2019 17:55:14
Not much. But the sixers aren't trading reddick. The sixers already have a SERIOUS depth issue, trade away redick and the sixers are one ankle sprain away from major issues.



18 Jun 2018 23:52:47
76ers, Spurs, Warriors

76ers get Beal

Wizards get Leonard, Pick #10

Spurs get TLC, Covington, McConnell, Oubre, Pick #15, Pick #26


1.) 19 Jun 2018 01:33:50
Leonard rumors say not expect a trade if any until mid-july.

2.) 19 Jun 2018 03:29:05
The sixers would not give up that much just to put Kawhi in their conference.

3.) 19 Jun 2018 01:49:14
Spurs need tenth pick too.




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12 Jul 2021 17:00:45
1. won‘t be enough for Covington. He‘s their only defender.

2. You won‘t get House and Bradley for Harrell. Why should Houston do that if there aren‘t at least two 1st Round Picks included? They have no use for Harrell.

6. Korkmaz will be way more expensive. He might get about 10-12 million a year.




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08 Nov 2020 16:15:17
The players between #14-40 aren't that far from each other this year than in most other drafts. Don't think anyone gives up several picks in the to trade up a few spots.




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01 Nov 2020 05:50:57
Not enough for Bamba.




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29 Oct 2020 17:50:12
Allen isn't worth that.
He's an average starting Center with some upside. But still a bad shooter and with average Defense.
Maybe he's worth a 1st round pick in the range 17-25, but for sure no top 10 pick in an extremely deep, talented draft class.




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29 Oct 2020 14:50:14
Hayward has no value for me, especially if I'm not a contender.

Reasons why:
- Too many injuries in the past years
- Trade kicker which makes his deal really bad, especially as the cap isn't expected to increase
- Would be a one year rental

So what are the reasons for Orlando to do this deal?
Doesn't help them for the future and doesn't make them a better team as they lose Vucevic who's as good as Hayward.





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