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04 Feb 2022 23:33:30
OKC trades before the new season:

Trade 1:
OKC gets Ben Simmons
Philly receives 2022 FRP Suns, 2022 FRP Pistons, 2023 FRP Nuggets (Philly also creates an Exception which they can use to sign Harden)

Trade 2:
OKC gets Turner
Pacers receive Favors, Bazley, 2022 FRP Clippers, 2023 FRP Heat

Trades could also be done before the deadline. But Philly would only create an exception of 31 Million instead of 34 Million, but could get far under the Tax.

OKC would also get a worse Pick in 2022 what could be a Franchise player if they Pick in the Top 3.

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02 Jul 2021 06:45:52
3-Team-Trade

76ers get:
Pick 16, Pick 18 via OKC and Lowry (S&T)

Raptors get: SGA

OKC get:
Ben Simmons and Pick 4 via Raptors

Why the Raptors do the trade:
They get a better player than they would with Pick 4 who fits to the timeline of Siakam, Anunoby and VanVleet.

Why the 76ers do it:
They get a good PG to complement Embiid, what makes them a better contender. They also have now 3 Picks this year which they can use for additional moves.

Why the OKC do the trade:
SGA can sign a max-deal and I don't see him as the No.1 guy on a championship team. So trading him for a chance at a Franchiseplayer is a possibility. With the 4th Pick they have a small chance to get a No. 1 guy. Additionally they get Simmons who has a small chance to improve into a No. 2 guy. OKC also could package Pick 4 and 6 to trade up.

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1.) 02 Jul 2021 09:53:15
Philly should wait a little before trading Simmons, his stock can only go up.


2.) 02 Jul 2021 12:09:37
Oh man, if only.


3.) 02 Jul 2021 12:40:35
I can understand sga for 4. pick.

I can understand 2 first for simmons to pair him with sga. I would do it in a heart beat and I think they can be very good duo.


I don't understand what will okc will do with simmons after they trade sga.


4.) 02 Jul 2021 13:56:36
you suggest that OKC should do the deal to avoid paying SGA the max when he becomes eligible, but you trade him for a guy who is already making the max, and, in your own estimation, isn't a #1 guy.
just don't see the value for OKC here.


5.) 02 Jul 2021 14:49:43
@windrapsfan. The value is Suggs or Mobley being at #4. If Suggs can develop into SGA (fair chance) then getting Simmons for #16 and #18 is an apparent steal according to Simmons perceived value around the league.


6.) 02 Jul 2021 23:28:11
@Fredman - suggs becoming sga is going to take a few years. i think presti has accumulated enough assets to be ready to spend those on competing before he's ready. but mostly i was arguing the point of being shy of sga's next contract but willing to take on simmons'. if you see the trade as simmons for sga, and 4 for 16 and 18, then okc says no to the first, and toronto says no to the second.


 

 

26 Jun 2021 07:18:05
3-Team trade between Hornets, GSW and 76ers:

Hornets get Wiseman

Warriors get Simmons

76ers get: Oubre S&T 68/4, Rozier, Pick #11 via Hornets

Why for the Hornets: Get another young, talented player with the same timeline than Ball. They also can resign Graham.

Why for the 76ers: Rozier is the kind of PG they look for. Can defend and fits therefore next to Curry. He's also a good shooter who complements their team and who can fill in as 2a/2b scoring option. Oubre is an additional good, young Wing they can use. With the Picks this year they can also look for another good player.

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1.) 26 Jun 2021 11:08:38
i don't think you can do a sign and trade in combination with another player.


2.) 26 Jun 2021 12:21:19
@Gasupo - you're right. to add a player in a sign and trade it must be a separate consecutive deal.
To execute this trade GSW must be able to make a first deal that sends Oubre out for something that meets the CBA. One way would be for the Hornets to acquire Simmons and then deal him to GSW for Oubre. So CHA sends Rozier and #11 to PHI for Simmons, then deals Simmons for Oubre. CHA then flips Oubre to PHI for some unknown player in Europe's signing rights, and GSW sends Wiseman for another unknown player's rights.
The problem with this scenario is all the trades have to fit the CBA. Hornets probably have room to absord the difference in Simmons salary from Rozier's, but GSW can't take Simmons in unless they sign Oubre for at least $28M per year. Nobody is going to pay Oubre that much.


 

 

25 Jun 2021 12:59:43
Clippers - 76ers after the draft

Clippers get Ben Simmons

76ers get Rondo, Morris, Zubac, 2021 1st Round Pick and 2028 1st Round Pick

Clippers can use Simmons as a Center and an upgrade over Zubac. So teams can't expose him like Doncic did.

76ers get a good backup for Embiid, a good Wing and a Mentor for Maxey. The additional Picks can be used to get a new No. 2/3 behind Embiid and Harris.

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1.) 25 Jun 2021 13:30:38
Morris > Simmons.


 

 

23 Jun 2021 15:12:04
76ers - Detroit

Philly gets Grant,Joseph and Plumlee

Roster:
Maxey - Joseph - Milton
Curry - Green (resigned)
Grant - Thybulle
Harris - FA
Embiid - Plumlee

Pistons get Simmons, Hill, 2021 1st Round Pick and 2023 1st Round Pick ( 1 - 5 protected)

Roster of the future:
Hayes -
Cade - Jackson
Bey
Simmons - Sekou
Stewart -

I think pairing Simmons with Cade, Bey and Hayes could be great and gives them all time to develop their game. I think Simmons could play in similar role like Green with the GSW as a small Ball Center.

I think finding a package for the 76ers which doesn't include Grant would be even better, but I don't think the 76ers would want picks.

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1.) 23 Jun 2021 16:54:19
Too much going to Detroit.


2.) 23 Jun 2021 19:36:13
Grant is good, but not that good. He’s a good 2-way player but shouldn’t be relied to be a 2/ 3 option on championship team. He played on a horrible Pistons team who had no shot creators or scoring threats.


 

 

 

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01 Feb 2019 14:56:35
As Shamet is balling in Philly right now and the Lakers looking for shooting, I think Philly might be ready to part ways with Redick.

What would it cost to get him?

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1.) 01 Feb 2019 17:55:14
Not much. But the sixers aren't trading reddick. The sixers already have a SERIOUS depth issue, trade away redick and the sixers are one ankle sprain away from major issues.


 

 

18 Jun 2018 23:52:47
76ers, Spurs, Warriors

76ers get Beal

Wizards get Leonard, Pick #10

Spurs get TLC, Covington, McConnell, Oubre, Pick #15, Pick #26

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1.) 19 Jun 2018 01:33:50
Leonard rumors say not expect a trade if any until mid-july.


2.) 19 Jun 2018 03:29:05
The sixers would not give up that much just to put Kawhi in their conference.


3.) 19 Jun 2018 01:49:14
Spurs need tenth pick too.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2022 17:46:13
Best 3-Point-Shooting team of all time. Westbrook-Simmons-Claxton.

Will never happen….

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08 Feb 2022 12:10:37
@NBA16: I think you confused the players Tobias and Joe Harris.

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08 Feb 2022 12:07:44
GS won‘t give up that much for Sabonis. I think they really like Wiseman and won‘t trade him. If they would he would already been gone.

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12 Jul 2021 17:00:45
1. won‘t be enough for Covington. He‘s their only defender.

2. You won‘t get House and Bradley for Harrell. Why should Houston do that if there aren‘t at least two 1st Round Picks included? They have no use for Harrell.

6. Korkmaz will be way more expensive. He might get about 10-12 million a year.

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08 Nov 2020 16:15:17
The players between #14-40 aren't that far from each other this year than in most other drafts. Don't think anyone gives up several picks in the to trade up a few spots.

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11 Dec 2019 15:56:01
I'm also prefering Adams. How they play is difficult to compare. Gasol can shoot the 3 and has some really good games. But overall I think he regressed a lot. If I'm a contender I would prefer Adams even if it just was for this year. I also think he might sign an extension of about 20 million a year, so you could have your starting Center who's currently a little overpaid for a half decade for an overall reasonable contract.

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