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09 Aug 2020 10:34:43
I will write two trades they are related but has to be seperated deals.

first trade

minnesota: cash considerations (they have to take something)

gsw: james johnson, 2020 first round pick from nets (17. right now)

wolves have 96 million salary before signing their first round picks, beasley and hernangomez. when they sign those 4 player their salary will be over 130 million and 15 player roster. if salary cap drop (it will drop) they are tax payer team. teams won't make much money next year especially small market teams. with this trade they dump salary and get relief. it takes a first round pick to dumb that much salary.

gsw use trade exception from iguodala trade and get a first round pick they can use. their salary will be very high but they are very rich. and they will use johnson contract for another trade.

second trade

gsw: myles turner

pacers: james johnson, 2020 gsw first round pick.

asdenam

1.) 09 Aug 2020 13:41:51
Turner is not getting the Pacers the #1 pick. PERIOD.

Why is Minny salary dumping an expiring contract? They need picks to build around DLo, KAT and the #3 pick.

Why is Minny being at $130 mil salary a bad thing (gotta salary dump johnson), but GSW being at $170 mil (with a much higher luxury tax multiplier) is just fine?


2.) 09 Aug 2020 16:01:45
Everything Fred said. But to reiterate: holy crap Turner is not worth the #1 pick.


3.) 09 Aug 2020 17:53:07
gsw doesn't own the first pick yet. they can get no:5 pick.


4.) 09 Aug 2020 18:37:11
We know asdenam. But it’s projected #1.

Even 2-5 is worth way more than Turner.


5.) 09 Aug 2020 18:42:46
Asdenam actually, their pick could fall as low as 6th.


6.) 09 Aug 2020 18:52:43
As an Indiana fan, let me say no the the number whatever pick! You guys act like there is some generational pick in this years draft. Indiana already traded out of this years draft, we don't want anyone who is projected to go #1-5. Easy no from Indiana.


7.) 09 Aug 2020 19:49:54
Every draft has an all star in the top 5. Every single one. That pick has a 25% chance (at worst) to be an all star. #1 is closer to 50% odds.

Turner is an ok player, but it’s not like he’s a top 10 center in the NBA. He defines average. Heck, his PER is 14.9 (15 is always exactly league average) .

If you give me the option of a league average starter at a place of need or a 25% shot at an all star, I roll the dice every single time.

Top 5 picks always have tremendous value, and for a reason. The #1 pick this year might have the value of a normal 3-5 pick due to the “weak draft”. That’s still a lot.


8.) 09 Aug 2020 20:10:46
Helsbyte, its not like Turner is a "generational player" either. But if its up to me, I would rather take a chance that Wiseman can be Olajuwon-like than have the "above mediocre" Turner.


9.) 10 Aug 2020 07:25:33
Turner was on the verge of losing his starting job to Sabonis.


10.) 10 Aug 2020 07:46:44
You are forgeting that gsw take a pick from the first trade.


11.) 10 Aug 2020 15:20:18
Who cares about the first trade? Because they get ok value in one trade it’s ok to totally screw them in another?


12.) 10 Aug 2020 22:07:24
Then please tell me who the pacers would take with GS top 5 pick? Not one of them can do what Turner brings to the table. RIM PROTECTORS WHO CAN SHOOT 3's are more scarce than 3 and D wings.


13.) 10 Aug 2020 22:10:49
Every fan seems to want Turner on their team and expects Indiana to take parts for him. Golden State would say yes if they thought he was the missing piece for a title. GS is in win now mode.


 

 

08 Aug 2020 07:59:07
sixers is very disfunctional. players are hurt a lot and they get lots of money. 4 players aruound 30 million. they are not bad individually but when they come together it is a mess. so I made trades for them for a more healthy team.

first trade

portland: tobias harris

sixers:zach collins, nassir little, mario hezonja (waive), rodney hood (waive), trevor ariza.

portland add 4. piece to their core.

sixers get 2 young player and they can keep ariza. with this trade they save 8 million. if they waive ariza's nonguarantied contract too it is 19 million.

.........

second trade

jazz: embiid

sixers: gobert, 2020 first round pick.

embiid is better player but he misses a lot of games. gobert is dpoy and very stable. there is problem between gobert and mitchell they can solve it with this trade. if gobert and pick isn't enough jazz can add one more pick but I think this is enough.

.....

third trade

pelicans: simmons

sixers: lanzo ball, nickeil alexander walker, hosh hart, jj redick, 2020 first round pick, lakers first round pick.

sixers can keep redick or trade him another team. with this trade pelicans become very scary.

.......

fourth trade

gsw: josh richardson, 2 second round picks

sixers: gsw 2022 first round pick

richardson doesn't worth a first round pick but if sixers add 2 second round pick they can get a first for him. gsw has trade exception they don't have to send salary. sixers cut 11 million more salary.

fifth trade

sixers: batum

hornets: horford, 1 of the late first round picks.

I couldn't a team from west to trade horford.

Almost all trades are between sixers and west teams.after this trades if they keep ariza their salary will be around 130 million. if they waive ariza it will be around 120 million. if salary cap drop too much they can waive and strech batum.

note: if you don't like the trades please write which one and why. have a nice day :D

asdenam

1.) 08 Aug 2020 09:21:34
I like the first trade, but Portland has high hopes on Collins and Harris has a big contract so i don't think they do this.

The second trade is equal in value, but i don't think this would make the sixers better. Utah should take this, if they can't solve the problems between mitchell and Gobert

trading Simmons, should land another star in philly and Ball doesn't solve the problem, he can't shoot either.

GS can get a better return for that pick.


2.) 08 Aug 2020 10:55:35
I couldn't find anybody to trade for simmons. he is very good player but he can't shoot. it is a very big problem. teams need simmons don't have players to trade.


3.) 08 Aug 2020 12:49:24
Tobias Harris has negative value, they wouldn’t even have enough roster spots for the players coming back and there is no way that they trade Simmons and Embiid. Top 20 players are hard to get. You don’t throw away two of them because of a down year. I don’t even think you trade one of them until you’ve exhausted all your options (changing the coach and players around them) unless they were to make a deep run with Simmons out and they think they’re better off.


4.) 08 Aug 2020 13:45:20
Utah going to have a 2020 first? Thought it was going to Memphis in Conley trade.


5.) 08 Aug 2020 14:31:54
İt is protected for 15-30.


6.) 09 Aug 2020 04:31:02
Simmons isn't a top 20 player. Not even close. He can't shoot and everyone knows it. Embiid is a top 20 player when he plays. That's the issue. He's always out and can't be relied upon. Philly can be an average team for a while, only in the East, but they really do need to start over again if they're seriously seeking a championship.


7.) 10 Aug 2020 07:52:14
and embiid is hurt again.


 

 

07 Aug 2020 04:56:48
sixers: batum

hornets: horford, 4 second round pick sixers have this year draft (34,36,49,59)

sixers need changes.they have 4 second round pick and they should use them. they clear salary cap for future seasons without giving a first round pick.

hornets can use horford. we can use second round picks for trading another player or we can select players. or we can shop them for future second round picks or cash.

asdenam

1.) 07 Aug 2020 12:09:50
Good.


 

 

05 Aug 2020 15:02:40
moves for my hornets

hornets: jonas valanciunas, dillon brooks

memphis: batum, 8. pick

memphis can add another player to their young team with that pick.

......

hornets: otto porter s&t 4 years 80 million

bulls: zeller

bulls cut 13 million salary this year. and porter will have longer contract.

sign fournier 4 years 80 million.

rozier- fournier- porter- washington- valanciunas

asdenam

1.) 05 Aug 2020 20:52:13
terrible trade.


2.) 06 aug 2020 05:36:16
terri̇ble for who?


3.) 06 Aug 2020 16:59:34
You have Graham why need Fournier?


4.) 10 Aug 2020 01:45:30
Bulls want to keep Porter to be players in 2021 free agent class (which they won't be if they keep Boylen as coach) . No way Hornets sign Porter to multi-year contract due to his injury history and Zeller does nothing for Bulls.


 

 

29 Jul 2020 12:27:00
gsw- gobert, ingles

utah- rozier, zeller. hornets 2020 pick, minnessota pick from gsw.

hornets- wiggins, looney, gsw 2020 pick.

asdenam

1.) 29 Jul 2020 13:17:55
I think that would work out very well for all teams.


2.) 29 Jul 2020 13:23:49
No from Jazz unless they get 1st pick at least.


3.) 29 Jul 2020 13:49:55
I don’t understand why the Hornets are involved at all.


4.) 29 Jul 2020 14:18:58
instead of wiggins long contract utah get shorter contracts.


 

 

 

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30 May 2020 21:06:35
If warriors land the top two or three picks, gm said they will think accepting to trade down for good players or more picks. Which teams do you think should trade up? In doncic and fultz trades teams gave one more pick for going up 2 spots. Some teams can think to take Wiggins for just trading up. What is your thoughts?

I picked Detroit. They have cap space to take Wiggins. kennard is a good player they can even add snell if he opts in. They can start their rebuild with anyone they want if the pick is no:1.

asdenam

1.) 31 May 2020 12:58:12
I don’t see many teams looking to trade up.


2.) 31 May 2020 16:32:50
Kings would trade up. Just not sure how to get there.


3.) 02 Jun 2020 09:38:41
Warriors could end up with 4 pick in a week draft.


 

 

13 Dec 2019 10:58:01
I think contender teams can use kevon Looney from golden state.If golden state don't get salary back or very cheap contract they can reduce salary. They are 6 million over tax. İf they don't get much salary back and they trade Looney they will be under tax line. They won't pay repeater tax money next year. There are teams with trade exception can use hım for a late first or couple seconds. He has 2 NBA chips and played 4 NBA finals. He is very good back up center.

Dallas, miami, clippers have trade exceptions. He has 3 years 15 million contract. Bargain in nba.

asdenam

1.) 16 Dec 2019 16:23:24
Miami only has $2.8 mil space left under hard cap. can't take on Looney.


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2020 18:00:14
simmons can't shoot. there is only three years diffferance. and wizards don't want to trade beal. sixers are desperate to change something. so sixers have to send pick.

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10 Aug 2020 07:52:14
and embiid is hurt again.

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09 Aug 2020 17:53:07
gsw doesn't own the first pick yet. they can get no:5 pick.

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09 Aug 2020 10:37:43
dont have to send all those players. you can make the trade with hill bledsoe and ilyasova. I tried it on trade machine and it worked.

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08 Aug 2020 10:55:35
I couldn't find anybody to trade for simmons. he is very good player but he can't shoot. it is a very big problem. teams need simmons don't have players to trade.

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