Milwaukee Bucks Rumours

20 Apr 2021 12:52:39
Haven't made a trade in a while, so here's one:

CLE-TOR-PHI-MIL

CLE:
-Lowry, s&t 3 y 72 million

Gets a mentor for Garland and Sexton

TOR:
-Nance
-Connaughton
-Kurucs
-Merill
-Lottery prot PHI 2024 1st

Gets assets for Lowry, also saves money and get a TPE

PHI:
-Prince

Gets their backup PF

Bucks:
-Hill
-CLE 2nd

Gets their backup facilitator (back)

Thoughts?

20 Apr 2021 13:19:28
Rather see Lowry go to a contender even if it means Toronto getting a weaker return. If Philly doesn’t perform well these playoffs, they’d prolly be willing to give up Maxey in a s and t.

20 Apr 2021 14:12:01
While it would be nice to get something back for Lowry the focus has to be on fixing the 5, so unless the S&T player coming back is Jarrett Allen I think this would just handcuff the Raptors. None of the players you listed would be of any interest long term to the Raptors.
Also, I don't believe Lowry would have any desire whatsoever to play in Cleveland. He will get an acceptable offer from one of the contenders, and that's where he will go.

20 Apr 2021 15:19:55
Nice job on the numbers, but Philly doesn't own a first in 2025 right now, so that 2024 pick would most likely have to be moved to a 2023 and if not conveyed because of the protection, then 2 seconds are send to Toronto (2023 + 2024).

Also, if Philly is going to be in this trade, they are the ones that is going to want to walk away with Lowry somehow.

20 Apr 2021 15:24:08
Wind, Nance has seen substantial time at the 5 this year.

20 Apr 2021 18:51:48
that's true darry. but do you really think he's the answer as the starter there?

21 Apr 2021 14:06:37
Hill is more valuable to philly than prince.

21 Apr 2021 23:43:15
I see why you didn’t make a trade In Forever.

16 Apr 2021 08:55:03
NO: D Booker+CP3

Knicks: A Fox

Suns:Adams+Bledsoe+Toppin+ 1rnd pick Knicks 2021 and 2023+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2021+ 1rnd pick NO 2021 and 2023+ 1rnd pick 2024 Bucks

Sac:Ingram+ 1rnd pick Dal 2021 and 2023+ 1rnd pick Knicks 2025

16 Apr 2021 14:00:41
Knicks can pursue 5 quality pg this off season with unlimited cap space.

16 Apr 2021 16:13:17
Why would Phoenix break up a team with the 2nd best record in the league? It would be like Utah trading Mitchell and Gobert for future picks.

16 Apr 2021 19:02:09
Ball Lowry Conley CP3 Lowry borderline schroder. I'm not sure why anybody would disagree with my previous post.

16 Apr 2021 19:27:40
Way too much for fox. Only way Knicks do that if Leonard was signing too.

16 Apr 2021 21:48:44
Obviously we all know this kind of trade won't happen. As far as i know, Gasupo is just trying to make a deal and see the value of each player (sometimes)

16 Apr 2021 22:17:40
Only team that takes this is prolly Sacramento.
Phoenix is finally good, why rebuild again?
Knicks could go for Fox but not for Toppin + 6 firsts (I think that’s what they’re giving up here) . He’s worth max Toppin + 2-3 imo.
NO is prolly looking to trade Ingram for a backcourt star but I don’t think Booker will be available.
Sac takes this deal because Ingram is an upgrade over Fox imo or at least a lateral move and you get 3 firsts.

17 Apr 2021 03:09:52
Because you listed Lowry twice?

18 Apr 2021 03:26:45
Websjac I see the suns good but only see that for this year not next year.

12 Apr 2021 21:07:33
Orlando get Knox McCruder 2 Jazz 2nd (ny)
Knicks get Grant Rozier N.Richards 55 59
Detriot get Barrett Toppin Bamba MCW NY 22 DAL 23 1ST
Hornets get Plumlee Quickley Joseph

Holmes 4yr 48mil

Ball/Graham/Joseph
Quickley/Caleb/Monk
Hayward/Bridges/Cody
Washington/K.Jones-14/McDaniels
Plumlee/Holmes/Carey

Harris for Horford Nug 2nd future 1st pick

Fultz/Anthony/DJohnson-pickup
Hampton/Green-4/McCruder
Ross/Barnes-10/Knox
Isaac/Okeke/Queta-53
Carter/Horford/Bassey-36

Cunningham-1/Hayes/MCW
Barrett/Diallo/Lee
Bey/Jackson/Syrvidis
Toppin/Doumbouya/Cook
Stewart/Okafor/Bamba

Knicks sign Kawhi Leonard 4yr 140mil Bobby Portis 4 yr 30 mil
Knicks sign Dwight Howard mle 2yr 7mil
Robinson 5yr 60mil Extension

Rozier/D.Mitchell-14/Ntilikina
Leonard/C.Thomas-20/Clarke-55
Grant/Todd-32/G.Brown-47
Randle/Portis/Sylla-59
Robinson/Howard/Richards

08 Apr 2021 03:39:48
How do the Knicks sell Kawhi Leonard a 2nd time to NY. After finishing 32-40 10th seed.

Trade Toppin for Pelicans 34th 37th

Orlando get Knox NY 22 23 2nd
Detriot get Randle Barrett Bamba Quickley
Knicks get Plumlee Grant Bey


88 mil cap space
Lowry 2 50mil DeRozan 4yr 110mil Leonard 4yr 140mil

Portis mle

Lowry/D.Mitchell-10/Dosunmu-32
DeRozan/C.Thomas-18/Christopher-40
Leonard/Bey/Todd-37
Grant/Portis/Prkacin-34
Plumlee/Robinson/Pelle

08 Apr 2021 13:12:07
Knicks having 88 mil in cap space is unbelievable.

Think you are forgetting about the $6 mil in dead cap money for Noah as well as the cap holds for the 2 first round picks. Sportrac is showing them at a projected $74 mil after this trade.

Also Spotrac is showing that the Knicks do not get an MLE in 2021-2022 to sign Portis. Just the room exception.

Also really curious to see how the Leonard-DeRozen chemistry develops.

08 Apr 2021 14:50:58
Will Leonard want to come to the Knicks?
Also not seeing DeRozan playing without a floor-stretching C.

08 Apr 2021 15:47:08
Why pull the plug so quick on Toppin?

08 Apr 2021 20:01:42
Haters, soft cap is 122mil. Knicks salary 48 mil with Noah next. That's 74. Toppin trade 5 mil. Detriot trade save 5mil. 84mil to DeRozan Lowry and Leonard. Still works.

08 Apr 2021 21:49:23
Check again, shizzee. Soft cap AKA salary cap for next year is $112 mil, not $122. Also, Knicks are at $44 mil because they are picking up the club option on Robinson and $6 for Noah and that puts them at $50-ish. Subtract that from $112 and Knicks have $62 for Lowry, Kawhi and DeRozen with Kawhi's max starting at $39 mil in first year. So that leaves $23 for Derozen and Lowry.

Was nice and left out the cap hold for the first round pick as well.

08 Apr 2021 21:59:59
Also, Kawhi opting out of $36 mil to sign and play for $35 ($140/ 4) mil when his max is $39 mil for next year? Yea, definitely not seeing that happening.

10 Apr 2021 04:30:55
So Knicks finally have a good rebuild going and blow it all up? If they develop Quickly, Barrett and Toppin they will have a decent core for years to come and can add talent as they go.

10 Apr 2021 04:44:21
Playing in Miami he will make that up cost of living and taxes way cheaper.

10 Apr 2021 16:41:24
I think bey do good at the 2 so they don't need DeRozan.

How about not do the trades could ny sign Leonard and Lowry. Do they have about 65 mil in cap space. Yeah they do. plus have a little extra
Lowry
Barrett
Leonard
Randle
Robinson
Or they can trade randle and whatever picks to get better.

10 Apr 2021 19:51:52
SMH. School bell rings. Sit down II and shizzee and take notes. There will be a test after this lesson.

Using next years salaries and assuming that the Knicks guarantee Randle's salary as well as pick up the option on Robinson, these would be the salaries that the Knicks would have on the book for next year.

Randle (20.7), Barrett (8.6), Knox (5.8), Toppin (5.1), Quickly (2.2) and Robinson (1.8) for a total of $44.2.

Add to that the $6.4 mil in dead money for Noah and the number rises to $50.6. Now assuming that the Knicks waive all their cap holds on last years players, then there are only two other cap holds that still have to be added before determining the Knicks available cap space. The first is for the 6 vacant roster spots that the Knicks are projected to have which comes to $5.5 mil. The second is for the 2 first round picks that the Knicks currently have unless they are traded away before the start of next season (or Euro hide and stash selections) . That salary cap hold will be around $5.8 mil. So add $11.3 (5.8+5.5) to the $50.6 mentioned early puts the Knicks at $61.9 mil.

Now subtact $61.9 from $112.4 (next years salary cap) and the Knicks are left with 50.5 mil in available cap to sign free agents. Hell, let's just round it to $51 to make it easier. And there is no "little extra" unless you are talking about the exemptions which do not apply to signing Lowry and Leonard and can only be used after the Knicks are over the salary cap.

Kawhi will be eligible for a max contract starting at around $40 mil so unless you believe he is signing for less than the max, the Knicks will only have around $11 mil to sign Lowry which is only slightly more than the MLE ($9.5) for next season.

I don't see Kawhi signing for less than max and I don't see Lowry signing for $11 mil when he would probably get a better offer from Miami once they waive all their players like Iggy and Dragic and probably the cap hold on Oladipo with his new knee injury on the same leg that had the previous quad injury.

what are your questions before I hand out the test?

10 Apr 2021 21:43:26
51 then waive randle so add like 15 more mil that's like 66. so they can sign Leonard and lowry. plus trade whoever and whatever picks they have too but barrett and get a real good player to pair with Leonard lowry and barrett or trade everyone and all picks to get a superstar player to pair with lowry and leonard.

04 Apr 2021 14:24:53
Lakers bucks off-season trade

Lakers Holiday S&T 4y 100m

Bucks Schroeder S&T 4y 90m 2nd round pick

04 Apr 2021 18:50:58
Holiday just signed today.

04 Apr 2021 19:12:39
Horrible for Bucks.

04 Apr 2021 19:17:53
The ba doesn't work that way.

05 Apr 2021 02:57:59
Lol I wrote this before he signed.

05 Apr 2021 15:26:09
Lakers can actually do this now. Before they could not sign Holiday as a S&T because it would have put them over next years Hard Apron Tax level (by about $10 mil if Harrell opts in) and they Lakers would still have 7 roster spots to fill which is below the league minimum.

But with Holiday signing the extension, there is no S&T and therefore no hard apron cap.

04 Apr 2021 05:59:35
UPDATE KNICKS CLIPPERS IDEA

NY get PG Morris Beverly
Clippers get 15 17 32 47 picks


No team can absorb 79 mil in salaries accept the knicks next yr once they trade Knox. Leonard and Ibaka opt out to resign longer term deals to give them cap space. With salary at 122mil. This give Clippers about 92 mil cap space. J.Green and Harrell 4yr 48 mil. DeRozan and Leonard sign 4yr 110mil. Lowry 2yr 40 mil. Ibaka Mle

Turner for Zubac 21 23 Clippers 1st

Lowry/Rondo/D.Mitchell-16
DeRozan/Mann/C.Thomas-20
Leonard/Kennard/Scrubb
Green/Harrell/Prokacin-32
Turner/Ibaka/Timme-47

Hornets get Quickley NY 22 2nd
OKC get Beverly Dal 23 1st
Knicks get Rozier 53rd 55th and 57th

Toppin Knox for Bamba 34th
sign Burks 3yr 15 mil
2 Jazz 2nd for Jordan Nwora
Rose

Rozier/Rose/Ntilikina
Barrett/Burks/Clarke-53
George/Morris/Nwora/Todd-55
Randle/Morris/I.Jackson-34th
Robinson/Bamba/Queta-57

This should put Clippers on paper ahead of anybody the West. This should give NY a good chance compete against the east elite. Thibodeau will help motivate PG back to the best version of himself.

04 Apr 2021 14:47:37
May NY can add Mamba and Wil and Air as well.

04 Apr 2021 18:32:45
Ring Ring, when you have 74 mil cap space and multiple picks, you have opts. Something you don't have. Dallas has 38 mil next yr and only future from 24 or 25 to trade.

Knicks can make the same offer for Beal Westbrook and nobody can match. But they will have to include toppin Knox Barrett Quickley if wizards include Bertan instead of picks or Russell Towns Rubio for picks Robinson Quickley Barrett. Or keep picks and everyone in current rookie deals and sign Ball/ Lowry-pg Trentjr/ Oladipo/ DeRozan-SG J. Green-SF Drummond/ Holmes-C just examples. Point is we have more options than any team do. So let's see what they do.

Your stuck with injury prone unicorn and white breaded super hero Luka. Important summer for you to add a 3rd star. Because Luka will demand 50 mil per yr in his 1st contract extension in the summer of 2022-23.

07 Apr 2021 16:49:06
I fear NY does as well they did the last 10y - sry man : )

But hope the best for y! The Mavs will trade for Beal and sign Holmes and become even better. ; ) a.

08 Apr 2021 15:21:27
Nobody wants to play for either of your teams, which is why you have to trade or overpay for players.

23 Mar 2021 07:21:08
Magic get Powell Theiss Johnson Hardaway Payton Knox Cs 21 23 1st Dal 21 22 2nd

Dal get Walker Ross Thompson

Cs get Vucevic Gordon Rivers

Knicks get Aminu Powell J.Green



Powell Toppin for Morris Sr Oturu

Quickley/Rose/Ntilikina
Barrett/Burks/Green
Morris/Bullock/Brazdeikas
Randle/Aminu/Gibson
Robinson/Noah/Oturu

clear 70 mil of 21-22 salary, add 2 1st and 2 2nd

Payton/MCW/Fultz-ir
Fournier/Bacon/Anthony-ir
Hardaway/Knox/Ennis
Theiss/Okeke/Isaac-Ir
Bamba/Birch/Johnson

Dallas become 1 of favorite in WC
Walker/Brunson/Burke
Richardson/Ross/Terry
Doncic/Smith/Iwundu
Porzingis/Kleber/Bey
Thompson/Stein/Marjonovic

Celtics become 1 of favorite in EC
Teague/Pritchard/Edwards
Brown/Smart/Rivers
Tatum/Nesmith/Langford
Gordon/G.Williams/Ojeleye
Vucevic/R.Williams/Fall

23 Mar 2021 08:52:36
Magic say no.

23 Mar 2021 11:41:14
correction Powell ny not magic. Burke to Ny Green stays Dallas. MD should still be banned

Walker/ Brunson/ Terry
Richardson/ Ross/ Green
Doncic/ Smith/ Iwundu
Porzingis/ Kleber/ Bey
Thompson/ Stein/ Marjonovic

Noah Toppin for Morris Senior Oturu
Quickley/ Rose/ Burke
Barrett/ Burks/ Ntilikina
Morris/ Bullock/ Brazdeikas
Randle/ Aminu/ Gibson
Robinson/ Powell/ Oturu.

24 Mar 2021 01:46:06
Bad trade for Magic, MD has a lot of bad takes, but no way in hell Magic give up Vuc AND Gordon for only 2 firsts and a bunch of scrubs. They want AT LEAST 1 and a promising young player (better than Knox) for Gordon and 2-3 and a promising young player for Vuc.

21 Mar 2021 10:37:20
Boston gets-
A. Gordon

Magic gets-
T. Thompson (flip)
R. Langford
G. Williams
2021 1st

Boston gets-
D. Wright (TPE)

Pistons get-
2 2nds

Celtics get a starting 4 and a solid bench player while staying under the hard cap and tax line. Both players signed for next year and they still have 19.5 mil TPE to use in the offseason.

21 Mar 2021 12:40:34
Love it for every team involved.

21 Mar 2021 16:56:43
I honestly don't think this will make them better. Gordon is only signed through next season, then it's back to the same position they're in now. Gordon will command a good raise, and if I'm Ainge I'd rather give that raise to Collins long term.

21 Mar 2021 17:58:37
I don't think they're going to sign anybody to a big long term contract right now because otherwise they can position themselves to have a max slot available when Kemba's contract is up. There are scheduled to be several major free agents that year including Tatum's bud Bradley Beal. With that, it probably does make more sense to go after Barnes rather then Gordon.

18 Mar 2021 02:34:26
SUMMER TRADE
Toppin Knox Brazdeikas
for
Marcus Morris Senior

sign Holiday & Lowry 4yr 90mil
Drummond 4yr 80mil

Burks & Bullock 4yr 14 mil split mle MLE Rose

Lowry/Quickley/Rose
Holiday/Grimes-1st/Burks
Morris/Barrett/Bullock
Randle/K.Jones-1st/Prkracin-2nd
Drummond/Robinson/Badji-2nd

18 Mar 2021 11:22:30
Why pay 7 mil for 3rd stringers?

18 Mar 2021 13:08:21
@darry. It is not that much more than pay 3 vet min deals (3x$1.5=$4.5)

18 Mar 2021 14:47:19
You’re throwing Toppin away for Marcus Morris?

18 Mar 2021 21:31:08
Toppin is not as good as Marcus Morris. I am being nice when I say that.

17 Mar 2021 09:26:36
Rockets/Knicks/Pacers/Magic

Magic get Kevin Knox Edmond Sumner Taj Gibson Frank Ntilikina Jeremy Lamb 2021 first round pick.via Clippers from Knicks 2021 second round pick.via Bucks from Pacers

Knicks get Victor Oladipo James Ennis III Khem Birch

Rockets get Aaron Gordon

Pacers get Michael Carter Williams Terrance Ross

17 Mar 2021 14:05:42
for 2021, Knicks own a draft pick SWAP with the Clippers. They do not actually own that pick. So is it the Mavs or Knicks 2021 going to the Magic? (which probably makes it even less likely of happening) .

21 Mar 2021 19:57:42
LOL so the pacers get nothing basically for Jeremy Lamb and Edmond Sumner. wow, there are so many super wishful knicks fans on here.

16 Mar 2021 03:39:34
Magic/Nuggets/Pacers/76ers

Magic get Danny Green Mike Scott Aaron Holiday Zeke Nnaji Gary Harris Jeremy Lamb 2021 first round pick(unprotected).via Sixers 2022 first round pick(unprotected).via Nuggets 2021 second round pick.via Bucks from Pacers

Nuggets get Aaron Gordon Evan Fournier Dwayne Bacon

Pacers get Terrance Ross PJ Dozier

76ers get Will Barton Al-Farouq Aminu

It's four teams deal

All teams get something good in return

Magic going to release Michael Carter Williams

16 Mar 2021 12:03:09
You're not going to get a 1st for Aminu.

15 Mar 2021 00:05:04
Knicks get Lavert Warren Turner Stanley Martin Stevens

Cavs get Payton Rivers Ntilikina Knox 22 23 NY 2nd

Pacers get Drummond Toppin Noel Dotson Dellavedova (Pinson Brazdeikas-cut) Dal & Ny 21 & 23 1st

Get assets they wanted for Drummond.

Sexton/Payton/Ntilikina
Garland/Okoro/Rivers
Osman/Knox/Windler
Prince/Love/Wade
Allen/Nancejr/McGee

the flexibility gives Indy so many options next yr 3 1st 50 mil in cap space
McConnell/Holiday/Dellavedova
Brogdon/Lamb/Sumner
McDermott/Holiday/Dotson
Sabonis/Toppin/Sampson
Drummond/Bitadze/Noel

While they won't get passed sixers, nets or Bucks, Next yr Lavert and Warren will be 100% healthy and cap space to add a star PG in free agency will allow them to compete with Bucs Nets Or Sixers.

Quickley/Rose/Harper
Lavert/Burks/Stanley
Barrett/Bullock/Martin
Randle/Warren/Steven
Turner/Robinson/Gibson

15 Mar 2021 02:03:35
Cavs for sure say no to this. Also pretty sure Knicks would say no as you’re paying a kings ransom for Warren and Turner.

21 Mar 2021 20:00:16
Pacers would say no too, everyone knows Drummond's work ethic and selfish play.

10 Mar 2021 17:44:54
Here you go Darry.

Kings trade Rashaun Holmes (13 PPG, 8 RebPG, 66% 2pFG%, 80% FT%) and 2021 2nd (Memphis) .

Raptors trade Aron Baynes and 2021 first rounder.

Kings have $2 mil in salary cap space still available which happens to be the salary difference between Bayne and Holmes.

10 Mar 2021 17:52:15
Richaun Holmes is awesome though. I would keep him if I were the Kings. Would rather trade Bagley and/ or Hield.

10 Mar 2021 18:08:36
I wouldn't do that for Bagley. sad part is holmes is the only start who defends. smh.

10 Mar 2021 18:50:43
Make the first top 10 prot then sure.

10 Mar 2021 18:54:11
I would like to keep Holmes as well. But his contract is expiring so Kings need to get something (right value) if they are not making rhe playoffs. The pick is really what I am after for a shot at drafting Kai Jones.

10 Mar 2021 20:08:06
@Darry, 2021 top 10 protected, 2022 unprotected.

10 Mar 2021 22:15:17
Sure.

10 Mar 2021 23:57:43
I'd normally balk at a 1st if the raptors weren't getting back something to contend now, but I think Holmes is somebody we could keep long term, so I'd do it.

11 Mar 2021 00:38:35
Raptors will never do that dude still smoking.

09 Mar 2021 15:08:02
Granted a few picks might need to be exchanged to smooth out the value, here's an overly thought out ESPN Trade machine approved one so the money is at least close.

Bucks/Hornets/Kings/Warriors

Bucks get: Rozier, R. Holmes & D. Graham

Hornets get: Barnes (and low value pick or two)

Kings get: Oubre, DJ Augustin, DJ Wilson, & Donte Divencenzo

Warriors get: Lopez & Daquan Jefferies

09 Mar 2021 17:31:50
Why for the Kings?

09 Mar 2021 17:43:54
Kings would probably pass because "low value pick or two" sounds like second rounders which the Kings already have a plethora of and don't really need (or value) having more.

09 Mar 2021 18:24:12
Fred the Kings aren't getting the low value picks, the Hornets are.
I like it for the Kings, they get younger and better fits.

09 Mar 2021 18:37:55
your team can't be a top team and you make homer bucks trade steve.

09 Mar 2021 18:40:32
@stever129 This is actually a solid trade. Well done.

09 Mar 2021 20:28:10
yea, kings definitely not doing that.

Barnes, Holmes (expiring) + Jefferies (expiring) > Oubre (expiring), DJ Augustin (expiring), DJ Wilson (RFA), and Donte Divencenzo.

09 Mar 2021 21:16:03
Oubre + Augstin is probably Barnes's value imo. He's old and has multiple years left.
DiVin > Holmes
Wilson > Jefferies.

09 Mar 2021 22:37:56
I’m not a Kings fan but if I had a vote I’d say they get hosed the most on trade proposals

10 Mar 2021 03:36:03
I’d definitely rather take Oubre over Barnes. Age and fits better timeline of the team. DDV can be flipped for a center (Bamba + 2nd? )

10 Mar 2021 10:03:27
Oubre walks after the season is over.

10 Mar 2021 17:07:48
Oubre on his second year of a contract so they can Early Brid sign him up to ~26M per year over the hard cap. I'd think that is way more than he'd get elsewhere and can essentially replace the salary Barnes is currently getting but a guy that fits better and is 4 years younger.

Plus throw in assets of DDV on a cheap deal for another year and a trade chip to match salaries down the line in DJA (not expiring) . I'd just assume DJW would be allowed to walk in FA barring a great second half.

08 Mar 2021 06:14:43
Knicks and Pacers

Quickley Barrett Toppins Knox Ntilikina Aminu

Lavert Warren both Holiday Clark MCW rights to C.Stanley

Orlando get Payton Rivers Lecque Pinson-cut

Get better at injury risk

Rose/Holiday/MCW
Burks/Holiday/Lavert-ir
Bullocks/Brazdeikas/Stanley
Randle/Clark/Warren-ir
Noel/Gibson/Robinson-ir

Get younger and healthier

Brogdon/McConnell/Ntilikina
Quickley/Lamb/Sumner
Barrett/McDermott/Sampson
Sabonis/Toppin/Knox
Turner/Bitdaze/Aminu

cut 15 mil from 2021-22 payroll to sign Oladipo 4yr 100mil and Howard 2yr 10mil MLE JJ Reddick

Fultz Isaac 22 24 1st for Bogdanovic Clarkson 2nd if jazz don't make wc finals

21-22
Clarkson/Anthony/Lecque
Oladipo/Reddick/Moody-6
Bogdanovic/Ross/K.Johnson-2nd
Okeke/Gordon/Prkacin-2nd
Vucevic/Howard/Bamba

MD- like your team?

08 Mar 2021 09:16:07
That is horrible! 😡😡.

08 Mar 2021 09:17:03
Nooo! I don’t like this 😡😡😡!

08 Mar 2021 09:20:31
Magic are not giving up Johnathan Issac and Markelle Fultz for useless offers! 😡😡😡😡 Magic say nooo! You’re pissed me offf! Johnathan Issac is my favorite player😡.

08 Mar 2021 09:27:23
@shizzee you’re destroyed my team! 😡 I don’t want knicks offers! And I don’t want Victor Oladipo back on my team!

08 Mar 2021 10:04:04
I like this for Indy
Is this a joke?

would you really prefer Lavert and Warren over quickley/ Toppin and Barret.

08 Mar 2021 12:45:12
Yes Gasupo, Isaac is my favorite player on my All IR team. Bogdanovic > Isaac bc availability. Are you really going argue Clarkson over Fultz, Lavert > Barrett at sg, Warren > Toppin backup pf, Holiday > Quickley at pg. Quickley better at SG with bigger PG defending SG and Barrett better at SF. Of course better trade once everyone healthy.

sometimes you role dice,

MD, don't give me no bs. u want to dump your best players and keep rebuilding. I want build around your best players. vucevic is your best player not Isaac. Fultz is garbage.

50-55 win team in 82 game season
Clarkson/ Anthony/ Lecque
Oladipo/ Reddick/ Moody-6
Bogdanovic/ Ross/ K. Johnson-2nd
Okeke/ Gordon/ Prkacin-2nd
Vucevic/ Howard/ Bamba

much.

08 Mar 2021 14:15:29
Ok

I take Barrett/ Topin and Quickley over Levert and Warren all day.

08 Mar 2021 15:45:37
@MD_StaySmooth You couldn't have said all that in one post?

08 Mar 2021 04:53:21
Orlando Magic situation

Orlando Magic should get Jrue Holiday type package for Two Time All Star Nikola Vucevic

Salary Filler + young players multiple first round picks and picks swap

Like Bucks gave up all their picks to Pelicans

Orlando Magic should get those got package for Nikola Vucevic

08 Mar 2021 06:09:40
No they aren't getting that package unless a team is desperate (like the Bucks), desperate to win now.

08 Mar 2021 12:53:35
Would you pay that package for Randle now that he is an All-Star? Only if you got Championship expectations. So look at the top 3 teams in the East anx West. Which one has the 2 firsts available to trade and the need at center? Utah? Philly? Lakers? Brooklyn? Milwaukee? Phoenix? None of these teams fit that description. Therefore, Vucebic will remain in Orlando or Orlando drops its asking price.

08 Mar 2021 15:30:46
Fredman- randle has been solid for 36 games. Vooch has been solid for 4 years. Not really fair comparison.

08 Mar 2021 17:19:09
"Being solid" sounds like you are describing a role-player, not an All-Star worth 2 firsts, a young star and young players. Kinda making my point for me.

Randle's 36 games is probably more about Tibbs coaching than anything else.

08 Mar 2021 17:40:37
I fell asleep reading this. I dreamed MD and RingRing opened a chain of Lemonade stands called SmoothRing Beverages. They went bankrupt because the stands had really lopsided tables and all the lemonade fell off. Lopsided as much as their trade ideas

08 Mar 2021 19:42:52
DAC lmao I think their dreamers too.

08 Mar 2021 19:51:10
@Dac813. And 1-star reviews on Yelp.

07 Mar 2021 08:52:37
Magic/Wolves/Clippers/Bucks

Magic get Patrick Beverley(salary filler) Jarrett Culver(rookie contract) D.J. Wilson(expiring) Bryn Forbes(salary filler) Jake Layman(salary filler) 2022 second round pick.via Wolves 2025 second round pick.via Wolves

Clippers get Ricky Rubio(salary filler) Michael Carter Williams(salary filler)

Bucks get Lou Williams(expiring)

Wolves get Aaron Gordon(salary filler) James Ennis III(expiring) Al-Farouq Aminu(salary filler) Dwayne Bacon(team option)

Magic release Gary Clark

02 Mar 2021 14:43:11
Summer trade Trade could wolves in playoff and Knicks a contender
Rockets get Russell Towns
Wolves get 5 1st

Russell/Rose/Ntilikina
Quickley/Burks/2nd
Barrett/Bullock/Brazdeikas
Randle/Toppin/Knox
Towns/Robinson/Noel

Rubio Layman Nowell DAL NY 23 1st for s&t DeRozan 4yr 110mil

Cap space give give 2 max

J.Collin & Z.Collins 4yr 100 mil neither Hawks nor Blazers will match

R.Gay MLE 4yr 40 mil

Cunningham/T.Terry-t/TreJones-fa
Edwards/Beasley/Okogie
DeRozan/Gay/Culver
J.Collin/Nnaji-t/Muscala-t
Z.Collin/Reid/Oturu-fa

02 Mar 2021 16:32:05
You want to pay Zach Collins 100 million?!?

02 Mar 2021 17:13:08
Overpay if it's thi T-wolves lol.

02 Mar 2021 17:56:02
when the players are restricted, only opt is to outbid both Hawks and blazers.

02 Mar 2021 17:59:18
oops put Rockets instead of Knicks.

02 Mar 2021 18:37:43
When you try so hard but you don't succeed XD.

02 Mar 2021 22:14:45
I think you could get Collins for roughly 1/ 4 that amount. I think any contract at 4 years would scare Portland away. Collins has played 3 games in 2 years.

28 Feb 2021 12:59:50
Magic/Rockets/Nets

Magic get Dante Exum Danuel House Jr. 2022 first round pick.via Milwaukee from Rockets

Rockets get Evan Fournier Spencer Dinwiddie

Nets get Ben McLemore PJ Tucker Khem Birch

28 Feb 2021 13:25:03
Cant trade a player (Dinwiddie) that has been granted a medical exception and players have been signed using that exception.

28 Feb 2021 14:23:20
What you're saying Fredman makes sense but there's all sorts of rumors about the Nets trading him. Not that I haven't heard plenty of BS rumors.

28 Feb 2021 14:42:22
Nets put him on trading block.

22 Feb 2021 21:17:23
Kings / Bucks

Kings get:
Brook Lopez
DJ Augustine
DJ Wilson
Donte Divencenzo

Bucks get:
Buddy Hield
Richuan Holmes

22 Feb 2021 22:17:06
Kings hang up the phone.