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13 Apr 2021 15:30:51

Wiseman/Andrew Wiggins (Dallas 1x 1st)




Bradley Neal
Domantas sabonis


Myles Turner
Dwight Powell (2x1st & 2x 1st swaps)

13 Apr 2021 16:11:42
Another alias.

13 Apr 2021 16:40:01
That's bad.

13 Apr 2021 16:52:29
so Turner and Sabonis for Wiseman, Wiggins and a very distant 1st?

Yea, Indy passes with a chuckle.

Also, Porzingis, Powell and a very distant first does not get Dallas Sabonis AND Beal. Dallas would be lucky if Porzingis and a first got them Sabonis OR Beal.

also really curious to know which team is giving Washington the picks and swaps as well because none make any real sense.

13 Apr 2021 20:02:04
Well I'm not a GM. just an opinion.

I think beal would be worth about 3x 1st and maybe 2x 1st swaps

Sabonis is not better than porzingis. he is a better rebounder and playmaker. but his stats in closing out games is bad. considering porzingis has not played 4th quarter of some games and has better stats in last 5 min of games it says alot

Turner and sabonis are a liability in the last 5 min of games. there's a reason Pacers want to get something in return for them. same as dallas for porzingis.

Beal ts% is actually terrible when he shoots less than 18 shots a game. it's league average when he shoots 18 or more.

No one is getting LeBron or Kd or harden here. teams need to stop over valuing their players and determine whether a certain player makes them contenders or not, if not rebuild and go again.

And drafts are all about scouting networks. there's a reason why many No1 picks are bust and many amazing players who are all stars in the 7-12 range.

13 Apr 2021 21:30:29
Ring around the Lakerville.

13 Apr 2021 22:59:40
Sabonis IS better than Porzingis because Sabonis does not miss games be being injured. Stop looking at their "per game" averages and look at their total stats. Also, Sabonis contract is way better than Porzingis (around $11 mil a year less) . Which means that teams still have cap to sign other players.

11 Apr 2021 04:41:45
I know I might get a lot of hate especially from Bmiller but I think Blazers are better with Kanter at center than Nurkic.

Off-season trade

Warriors - Nurkic

Blazers - Oubre (s&t)

Resign Kanter
Bring back Whiteside (another one that Bmiller might personally hate. However he fits what they need especially something different than Kanter)


11 Apr 2021 11:58:14
The Blazers should get a pick from GS.

11 Apr 2021 12:12:42
Trade will leave Portland Hard Apron Capped with about $13 mil to resign Kanter and Melo while also signing Whiteside assuming that Oubre is willing to sign for the $12 mil that Nurkic makes next year (doubful) . Also assuming that Powell and Jones opt into their remaining year (doubtful for Powell) . Also Portland still would have 2 empty roster spots that would have to be filled while remaining under the Hard Salary Cap.

So overall very doubtful.

11 Apr 2021 15:38:32
Good god, never ever ever ever bring back Whiteside. I’d rather have RHJ playing center. Or Giles Or Little. Or Covington. He doesn’t fit anything anyone needs. He’s the worst.

And you’re right, I totally 100% disagree about Kanter. He can’t be the permanent starter with Lillard and McCollum. You can’t have 2 bad defenders at guard only to have the worst defensive starting center in the NBA behind them. They’re infinitely better with Nurkic.

Not against moving on from Nurkic, but not for those two at center.

11 Apr 2021 22:51:55
I also really don’t want another season of Melo.

08 Apr 2021 16:15:37
Warriors - Porzingis Richardson & Terry

Mavs - Wiggins & Wiseman

Mavs can chase Lowry in FA



08 Apr 2021 16:30:40
Think the mavs want ther wolves pick.

08 Apr 2021 17:27:02
I think the Mavs would want but not receive that pick.

08 Apr 2021 22:38:19
You had better watch out. RingRing is going to finally lose it.

09 Apr 2021 05:00:41
Doubt Mavs get Twolves pick + Wiseman. Maybe they can steal Paschall?

10 Apr 2021 04:43:02
Then they can keep wisemen and give minny pick.

31 Mar 2021 22:35:56
Summer trade

Warriors get Towns Beasley Quickley Knox
Knicks get Russell Wiggens Wiseman
Wolves get Robinson Barrett Warriors 21 23 25 1st DAL NY 23 1st Wolves get backup their 1st back pick from Warriors



Wolves give John Collins max deals. 7 1st over the next 4 yr, Wolves will be great 1-2 years

01 Apr 2021 13:59:11
Why in the world would Knicks do that.

01 Apr 2021 14:40:15
Noel not Noah.

01 Apr 2021 15:31:27
That is not enough from the Warriors.

02 Apr 2021 04:56:05

Russell > Quickley
Wiggens > Barrett
Wiseman > Robinson will be.

02 Apr 2021 14:00:06
I thought Robinson was untouchable?

31 Mar 2021 07:57:13
Wolves/Warriors/Hornets NBA Draft & Off Season

Wolves get Draymond Green James Wiseman Caleb Martin Cody Martin Nick Richards Terry Rozier III 2021 first round pick(Top 3 protected).via Wolves from Warriors 2022 first round pick(lottery protected).via Hornets

Warriors get Karl-Anthony Town

Hornets get D'Angelo Russell

31 Mar 2021 10:07:08
I don't know but i feel like Rozier and Russell are close to value for the Hornets so i don't see them going after this unless Rozier demands a lot.

31 Mar 2021 14:52:35
I don't see GSW doing this.

31 Mar 2021 19:26:08
I also don't see Warriors doing this.

31 Mar 2021 21:34:11
The only way Towns works in GS is if they can put a defender like Green beside him.

01 Apr 2021 15:08:32
If that's the case B then Green will have to be traded to Minnesota, which I believe will never happen.

23 Mar 2021 04:33:05
ATL gets Victor Oladipo (exp)
GS gets Bogdan Bogdanovic
HOU gets Kelly Oubre (exp), Cam Reddish, 2nd round pick GS

All players involve are rumored to get traded. Hawks are a dark horse in the east if they can get it together. Dipo gives Trae young a 2-way backcourt partner. Bogi seems like a failed signing for them, Warriors want him. They just gave an expiring contract to get him. Rockets get 2 quality guys to fill in their roster.

23 Mar 2021 13:58:20
Not a bad trade but I would not do it if I were the Hawks. Steep price to pay for a rental. I would rather work a trade for Buddy Hield. Same age and 4 years on contract just like Bogi.

23 Mar 2021 15:09:05
Hawks on a 9 game winning streak. Why break up the band?

23 Mar 2021 00:43:03
A Lakers revamp team

Lakers - Bagley & Whiteside
Kings - Harrell and THT

- Whiteside gives Lakers much needed rebounding and would get PT. Bagley gets change of scenario and fills in for AD
- Kings a center they'll love to have after Holmes enters FA. They can also afford THT.

Lakers - White
Spurs - Kuzma

- Lakers get theirs 6th man that can fit a lot better with the team
- Spurs need a future PF to replace LA

Lakers - Looney
Warriors - Gasol & 2nd

- Lakers get more depth at PF
- Warriors get true big bodied center that can bang down low & fit the offense


23 Mar 2021 04:51:48
Valuewise, all are considerably good but personally, I will only do the 3rd trade as a Lakers fan. Kuzma is showing some effort defensively and has been playing well lately. He is cheaper than White too. From what I've heard from Fredman and BMiller, Whiteside is terrible and only desperation will force the Lakers to trade for him.

23 Mar 2021 06:57:20
Harrell > Bagley. Until you value defense and winning more than stats you never understand fair value.

23 Mar 2021 15:14:09
Actually, Whiteside is not "terrible" depending on how you use him. Is he a starting center playing 35+ mins? Heck no. But as a back up center playing two 6-8 min stretches, Whiteside is fairly effective especially on the defensive end and rim running on the offensive end.

23 Mar 2021 15:20:52
Whiteside would be a great player to fill that Dwight Howard roll the Lakers miss. Great rebounding and rim protection.

22 Mar 2021 06:46:23
Bones of trade, just need to add some details

HOU gets Aaron Gordon, Brad Wanamaker, 2nd round pick GS
GS gets Victor Oladipo, MCW
ORL gets Kelly Oubre, Sterling Brown & future 1st round pick GS lottery protected

HOU is interested in Aaron Gordon, he'll fit very well next to Wood as their starting front court. Dipo could be more valuable than AG but HOU would be happy to get something for him. GS is reportedly shopping Oubre and getting Oladipo to start at the back court with Curry could be a win for the Warriors. ORL unload one of their power forwards and get a flexible starting SF that they need







22 Mar 2021 08:14:32
Magic say no Sterling Brown is trash.

22 Mar 2021 11:22:06
It's not Brown you're getting MD. It's OUbre+ a 1st.

22 Mar 2021 15:42:25
Magic won't make any trade after until the summer to punish MD.

21 Mar 2021 03:46:09
Building of asdenam's trade

Hornets - Paschall
Warriors - Graham


Warriors - Beal
Wizards - Oubre Wiseman Poole 1st via Min and 1/2 future 1st(s)

Kings - Smailagic and 2nd
Warriors - Whiteside


21 Mar 2021 04:42:04
When Klay comes back, that means Wiggins will come off the bench? Or go small ball?

21 Mar 2021 05:39:25
Can most likely trade him for a big next year if they get Beal. Wiggins has improved definitely and been pretty efficient to where’s he’s not necessarily a negative asset. Maybe s&t for Drummond if he stays. Pistons can afford him for Plumlee and Wright.

20 Mar 2021 07:06:49

Warriors get Evan Fournier

Boston get Aaron Gordon Kelly Oubre Jr
2022 second round pick.via Pacers from Magic

Magic get Tristan Thompson Aaron Nesmith Patrick McCaw 2021 first round pick(unprotected).via Boston 2023 second round pick.via Raptors

Raptors get Khem Birch

Kelly Oubre Jr agreed to sign extension with Boston Celtics

Aaron Gordon going to sign extension with Boston Celtics in off-season

Khem Birch agreed to sign extension with Toronto Raptors

Evan Fournier going to sign extension with Golden State Warriors in Free Agency

Boston/Raptors/Warriors not going to lose them for nothing

20 Mar 2021 08:06:00
Keeps Boston under the Hard Apron Salary Cap?

20 Mar 2021 11:08:48
Maybe formulate the Boston part as 2 separate trades, let Orlando take Oubre, send Ross to Boston, and add a small salary from Boston to whoever to keep them under the hard cap.

20 Mar 2021 13:15:14
Boston over the tax apron without a championship, NOT happening!

20 Mar 2021 14:51:14
Raptors say fine to McCaw, but no 2nd rounder. Birch can be signed in the offseason and doesn't move the needle enough this year to give up a pick.

20 Mar 2021 18:37:45
Are we back at smooching to Cs fans. Oubre > Fournier. stop over valuing your players.

20 Mar 2021 19:37:27
Would you like 🧀 with that 🍷?

20 Mar 2021 03:49:59
Hornets: Eric paschall

Gsw: devonte Graham

20 Mar 2021 06:04:27
Why for gsw?

20 Mar 2021 06:37:23
Not going to happen Warriors say no.

20 Mar 2021 08:14:02
Why for gsw? Their Back-Up pg wanamaker is Total garbage. that's why.

20 Mar 2021 13:33:36
Asdenam- I agree but wiseman and paschall are only two rim protectors on the roster. Backup pg isn’t as valuable as starter is it?

20 Mar 2021 16:56:46
Pascall isn't a starter. He was good last year. This year he is declining like Graham. what's the point of defending if you can't score when Curry out.

19 Mar 2021 12:21:07
Chicago / Golden State / Orlando

Chicago to acquire: Nikola Vucevic, Kelly Oubre (exp)
- go for a playoff push by acquiring an all-star center and a versatile small forward

White / Satoransky / Arcidiacono
Lavine / Temple
Oubre / Hutchinson / Valentine
Williams / Young
Vucevic / Markkanen / Gafford

Golden State to acquire: Evan Fournier, Micahel Carter-Williams
- gets a better fit for the team

Curry / MCW / Manion
Fournier / Lee
Wiggins / Bazemore / Toscano
Green / Paschall
Wiseman / Looney

Orlando to acquire: Otto Porter Jr, Brad Wanamaker, Wendell Carter Jr, 1st round pick Chicago 2021 (top 10 protected), 1st round pick Chicago 2023 (top 12 protected), 2nd round pick Golden State & Chicago
- acquire a load of assets for their all-star center

Anthony / Wanamaker / Fultz
Ross / Bacon
Porter Jr / Ennis
Gordon / Okeke / Aminu / Isaac
Carter Jr / Bamba / Birch

19 Mar 2021 18:44:30
Lose the protections on one or both picks.

17 Mar 2021 10:32:06

Magic get James Wiseman Andrew Wiggins

Warriors get Nikola Vucevic James Ennis III Dwayne Bacon

Salary Match

This is fair trade

Warriors can keep Wolves first round pick

Magic can build around Cole Anthony Markelle Fultz Johnathan Issac James Wiseman Mo Bamba top draft pick

17 Mar 2021 13:13:40
This is a nice try but no.

12 Mar 2021 16:08:09
Grizzlies - Wiggins and Wanamaker

- needs an upgrade at SF that can be a 2nd option for them

Warriors - Brooks Winslow and Melton

- Gets better depth, said to be searching for more ball handlers which Winslow can now lead the bench. Brooks still gives you 15 as starter



12 Mar 2021 16:46:12
Brooks would be a nice fit with the Dubs. This is a nice trade.

11 Mar 2021 04:59:37
Warriors - Beal and Lopez

Wizards - Wiggins Wiseman Smailagic Twolves 1st and 2 Gsw 1st

Wiseman plus 2021/22 top 5 pick (Suggs?) will be great building blocks alongside Hachimura and Avdija



11 Mar 2021 06:47:42
Good value but that is one horrible 3point shooting team in Washington.

11 Mar 2021 13:57:34
GSW cannot trade any of their 1st round picks for the next 7 years because of protections on the 21 and 24 that they've already traded. The only 1st rounder GSW can trade is the top 3 protected 2021 Minnesota pick.

10 Mar 2021 06:35:44

Warriors get Paul George Ivica Zubac

Clippers get Andrew Wiggins James Wiseman 2021 first round pick(Top 3 protected).via Wolves from Warriors

10 Mar 2021 08:32:46
It's a fair trade, and i would love to see Leonard going to the the Knicks after this trade.

But i can't see the Clippers blewing it up. OKC own their future untill 2026. so they have to figure it out with PG13 and Leonard.

10 Mar 2021 11:49:04
Paul George cannot be traded this season because he signed an extension after the season began.

10 Mar 2021 01:21:37
Magic/Warriors/Nuggets No picks involved

Magic get Jordan Poole Kelly Oubre Jr Gary Harris PJ Dozier

Warriors get Evan Fournier Dwayne Bacon

Nuggets get Terrance Ross James Ennis III

10 Mar 2021 01:57:18
oubre and Harris better than ross and fournier.

10 Mar 2021 04:11:48
I think magic say no. Oubre walks and Garris probably gets hurt getting on the plane.

10 Mar 2021 12:00:25
Shiller no way Magic say no lol. This is heavily biased towards the Magic.

09 Mar 2021 15:08:02
Granted a few picks might need to be exchanged to smooth out the value, here's an overly thought out ESPN Trade machine approved one so the money is at least close.


Bucks get: Rozier, R. Holmes & D. Graham

Hornets get: Barnes (and low value pick or two)

Kings get: Oubre, DJ Augustin, DJ Wilson, & Donte Divencenzo

Warriors get: Lopez & Daquan Jefferies

09 Mar 2021 17:31:50
Why for the Kings?

09 Mar 2021 17:43:54
Kings would probably pass because "low value pick or two" sounds like second rounders which the Kings already have a plethora of and don't really need (or value) having more.

09 Mar 2021 18:24:12
Fred the Kings aren't getting the low value picks, the Hornets are.
I like it for the Kings, they get younger and better fits.

09 Mar 2021 18:37:55
your team can't be a top team and you make homer bucks trade steve.

09 Mar 2021 18:40:32
@stever129 This is actually a solid trade. Well done.

09 Mar 2021 20:28:10
yea, kings definitely not doing that.

Barnes, Holmes (expiring) + Jefferies (expiring) > Oubre (expiring), DJ Augustin (expiring), DJ Wilson (RFA), and Donte Divencenzo.

09 Mar 2021 21:16:03
Oubre + Augstin is probably Barnes's value imo. He's old and has multiple years left.
DiVin > Holmes
Wilson > Jefferies.

09 Mar 2021 22:37:56
I’m not a Kings fan but if I had a vote I’d say they get hosed the most on trade proposals

10 Mar 2021 03:36:03
I’d definitely rather take Oubre over Barnes. Age and fits better timeline of the team. DDV can be flipped for a center (Bamba + 2nd? )

10 Mar 2021 10:03:27
Oubre walks after the season is over.

10 Mar 2021 17:07:48
Oubre on his second year of a contract so they can Early Brid sign him up to ~26M per year over the hard cap. I'd think that is way more than he'd get elsewhere and can essentially replace the salary Barnes is currently getting but a guy that fits better and is 4 years younger.

Plus throw in assets of DDV on a cheap deal for another year and a trade chip to match salaries down the line in DJA (not expiring) . I'd just assume DJW would be allowed to walk in FA barring a great second half.

08 Mar 2021 19:37:55
Warriors want Oladipo

Warriors - Dipo
Rockets - Oubre Looney Toscano and 2021 Gsw 1st


09 Mar 2021 00:35:48
Warriors already owe the 21 pick to OKC.

06 Mar 2021 13:37:42

Magic get Otto Porter Jr Jordan Poole Cristiano Felicio 2021 first round pick(Top 3 protected).via Wolves from Warriors

Bulls get Andrew Wiggins Khem Birch 2021 second round pick.via Wolves from Warriors

Warriors get Nikola Vucevic James Ennis III

06 Mar 2021 13:59:00
Magic potentially screwed there unless the draft pick falls perfectly.

06 Mar 2021 16:15:14
Nightcap? Or they wait a year still get a first from minny. Can’t see a rookie making them go from worse to playoffs.

06 Mar 2021 18:39:14
Sure Shiller, but is a potential #8 pick the year after a great draft enough? The players the Magic are getting are nothing.

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