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24 Sep 2021 22:50:26

Cleveland really wants Simmons and almost everyone on their team is available.

Cleveland: Simmons and Maxey

Philly: Okoro, Sexton, Love, 2022 & 2024 1st Rd picks

Cleveland gets their guy, Philly gets w young guys that can possibly be very good, and a few 1st Rd picks, oh and Love.

If Simmons goes to Cleveland, I think this is the best package Philly will get from them.


1.) 25 Sep 2021 20:39:38
Why would Philly give up Maxey.

2.) 25 Sep 2021 22:19:17
better question is why would Philly take Kevin Love and his salary? i doubt they can even afford it. it will cost at least Collin Sexton
just to move Love.

so Okoro and 2 first rounders for Simmons and Maxey? no way.

3.) 26 Sep 2021 21:16:49
quality trade let philly keep maxey.



15 Sep 2021 16:51:06

Houston: Harris, Ross, MCW (waive)

Orlando: Wall, 2022 1st (most favorable between Houston, Brooklyn, and Miami), 2023 1st (Houston)

Houston gets 2 good bench pieces and gets rid of Wall and his contract

Orlando gets a Vet PG that can mentor Fultz, Anthony, and Suggs, and gets a couple first round picks for taking Wall's contract. With no pressure in Orlando, Wall may be able to thrive.


1.) 15 Sep 2021 18:34:21
I don't think Houston gives Wall just to give him away. If they add multiple picks especially their own, they would want a player that can grow with their core, not bench vets.

2.) 15 Sep 2021 20:15:32
I’m willing to give up Fultz.

3.) 15 Sep 2021 21:26:37
I bet you would.



29 Jul 2021 17:08:58
Just read that the Knicks are trying to trade for Orlando's Terrance Ross, with one of their late 1st Rd picks tonight being the cost.

I would try to expand it to Ross and Orl's 2nd Rd pick for #21 and Knox.


1.) 29 Jul 2021 17:36:51
Report I read online said pick #32 was the pick being offered as Knicks are still hoping to combine #19 and #21 to move up in the draft.

2.) 29 Jul 2021 18:53:28
Well there must be multiple reports reporting multiple things Fredman, obviously it's a guessing game until it happens or doesn't. Imagine that.

3.) 29 Jul 2021 18:56:17
Orlando is trying to move into the back end of the first round, not gain an additional 2nd. Unless they package 32 and 33 for a late 1st.

4.) 29 Jul 2021 19:22:21
As a Celtic fan I'm glad to hear it. If NY gets Ross, they're less likely to steal Fournier.

5.) 29 Jul 2021 20:54:32
Knox for Ross is all your getting. Why is everyone from this state off.

6.) 30 Jul 2021 04:43:05



28 Jul 2021 19:15:23

Sac: Gary Harris and #5

Orl: Hield, Bagley, #9, 2022 1st (top 3 protected, unprotected in 2023)

Sacramento gets cap relief (Harris expiring contract as opposed to Hield's remaining 3 years) and moves up in the draft, possibly taking Barnes or Kuminga to replace Bagley.

Orlando takes a shot at rehabbing Hield and Bagley's careers, moves slightly down in the draft, takes possibly 2 of Moody, Bouknight, Sengun, and Jalen Johnson, and picks up a protected 1st next year. The difference in cap fits into the trade exception Orlando has from the Fournier deal


1.) 28 Jul 2021 20:56:37
Mannnn no! 😡 Magic definitely declined the deal.

2.) 28 Jul 2021 20:57:30
Jesus is not available at 5, so you might want to tone it down on the value of the 5th pick. 🗑poster.

3.) 28 Jul 2021 21:20:42
CLICK. Sound of a phone being hung up on Orlando.

Why does the Kings need "cap relief" when Bagley is also essentially an expiring contract. Hield's contact is essentially "cap relief" since salaries diminishes every year. Plus, Hield is reported into other and better trades than this.

4.) 28 Jul 2021 21:28:01
You are one to talk Shizzee, this is fair value far and away. Sacramento wants to get rid of Hield and Bagley, they do that, get cap relief, and move up in the draft and get a much better player than they would if they stay where they are at.

This trade is exponentially better than anything you have ever posted on this site Shizzee.

5.) 28 Jul 2021 22:39:29
Friedman, I just scoured the internet to find any rumors of trades involving Hield. All I found was this:

To the Lakers for Harrell, Kuzma and #22

To the 76ers with Bagley, either Fox or Haliburton, 3 1sts, and 3 swaps for Simmons

Are you trying to tell me either of those deals are better than what I proposed? Harrell and Kuzma are decent players but not really what the Kings need, and mortgaging the future and shipping off one of your best players for Simmons who has proven he can't be the guy?

In my proposal, the Kings get a much better player at 5 than they would at 9, get rid of 2 players they want to get rid of, get a decent bench piece in Harris, and open up cap space to chase a FA. What's not to like?

6.) 28 Jul 2021 23:55:07
The player at #5 a big that the Kings desperately need? So TO THE KINGS, it's not really that great to move up to #5 from #9.

The 2022 first is almost enough on its own to move up to #5 from #9. Why are the Kings tossing in talent as well? Your salary reduction reasons don't make much sense when Hield has trade value.

The Lakers trade for Hield is better because it addresses the teams needs. A big in Harrell in case we don't resign Holmes, Kuzma to be a backup stretch and protection for when Bagley gets hurt/ traded. And the pick at #22 can be for a bench scorer with Halliburton moving into the starting rotation.

There is also a Hield to Memphis rumor as well you seemed to have missed.

7.) 29 Jul 2021 00:30:15
ShaqIsBack no!

8.) 29 Jul 2021 21:33:18
MD, this is the kind of realistic trade that will help Orlando in the long run. Hield will contend for the starting SG position and Bagley will help bolster the PF/ C unit off the bench. Plus they still get 2 top 10 picks this year and pick up another 1st Rd pick next year or the year after.

Orlando could roll this lineup out

Anthony/ Fultz
Hield/ Hampton/ Moody
Okeke/ Ross
Isaac/ Bagley
Carter Jr/ Bamba/ Sengun

Give it a few years to gain chemistry and that team will be fun to watch for sure.



10 Jul 2021 16:04:23
Orlando/New Orleans

Rumor has it New Orleans wants to trade #10 for an established player to help Zion.

Orlando: #10

New Orleans: Terrance Ross and Orl 2nd Rd 2021

Terrance Ross is a great bench piece and can help elevate that play for New Orleans

Orlando would have 5, 8, & 10 and possibly can draft in order Kuminga, Bouknight, and Sengun. Sengun is going to be good but needs more condition and to build some mass. Orlando can draft and stash him for a year and then bring him over. Kuminga and Bouknight will contribute off the bench and help Orlando continue their rebuild.


1.) 10 Jul 2021 16:44:54
Ross doesn’t seem like the level of player they’d need to move #10.

2.) 10 Jul 2021 16:57:44
Magic say yes I love it.

3.) 10 Jul 2021 17:27:34
#10 in this draft is not a can't miss player. This draft is deep with role players after the top 5. Terrence Ross is a great off the bench scorer, plus he does a lot of good things. People, especially on this site, often underrate just how good TRoss is.

4.) 10 Jul 2021 16:38:08
I would start kuminga with Isaac as my forwards.

5.) 10 Jul 2021 17:59:07
Except Nola doesn’t need scorers. They were terrible on defense. They can save their money and just draft Moody or K. Johnson. Best bet to to trade 10 with Bledsoe or Adams.

6.) 10 Jul 2021 18:12:54
Classifying Ross as an "established player", really?

A "great bench piece" does not help Zion.

Thinking #10+Adams for #13+Turner makes more sense to NO. Especially if there is a 3rd team willing to take Adams.

Or simply drafting Johnson or Mitchell @ #10 to help the defense out.

7.) 11 Jul 2021 17:52:56
Ross is not worth 10th. Nothing worth it on that crap roster.

8.) 12 Jul 2021 09:46:05
Ross won't get u a 1st. If Damion Mitchell is not drafted after 9 picks, he would be Orlando best player with the 10th pick. Their are several players that are can't miss in this draft. I trade Fultz Isaac packaged for 10th pick. That is what I think Magic players, you and md. You trade Vucevic Fournier your 2 best players 🤣🤣🤣.




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12 Oct 2021 15:29:30
Bamba is in the future plans for Orlando, that is why they are playing him alongside Carter Jr right now. They will not trade him, mark my words.




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11 Oct 2021 22:52:30
Dirkrules must bee ringing's alternate account, which we all know is d_drainer's old account. LOL 😂.




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11 Oct 2021 22:49:48
Not even close enough for Turner. He is a candidate for DPOY every year. Indy would need at least 2 1st round picks to consider this.




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08 Oct 2021 22:32:41
Blazers already said no to Simmons, Maxey, Thybuille, and 2 firsts, swapping out Simmons and Maxey for Fox and Bagley still wouldn't get it done. Plus Lillard said he doesn't want to go to Philly.




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08 Oct 2021 22:30:30
I'm going with the "less agreed" part of your opening statement, since it only favors the Mavs and no other team involved would do this deal.





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